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  • The jury in a New York City murder trial is frustrated by a single member whose skeptical caution forces them to more carefully consider the evidence before jumping to a hasty verdict.
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  • @tomfowler381
    @tomfowler381 18 дней назад +38

    The scene where Fonda helps Cobb on with his coat is, in my opinion, one of the most moving scenes in the movie. Gets me every time. Has to be one of the finest movies ever made.

    • @raloria9173
      @raloria9173 18 дней назад +4

      Agreed. I love that little part of the film. Shows that we can disagree but still show basic human kindness towards one another.

  • @TheFalconerNZ
    @TheFalconerNZ 18 дней назад +31

    The beauty of this movies is that it was purely based on a strong script. No special effects, no real action scenes, just amazing performances, strong photography & a really well written script. It goes to show that great movies don't need big flashy special effects or massive budgets to be really impressive & very immersive. I also loved the fact that it shows that one person, with honest questions can open the minds & have them question their decisions of those that made up their minds more on their opinions & accepting 'Facts' without questioning them. I would love to see your reaction & opinions to 'Inherit the Wind' (1960) which is based on a true court case & relevant to America today. A simple film based on a opposing opinions.

    • @AndyMakesPlaylists
      @AndyMakesPlaylists 18 дней назад +7

      Yes, it's based on an incredibly strong script and has amazing performances, but there's a lot more to it. While there aren't any obvious special effects, there's a ton of technical wizardry going on that people aren't conscious of, which is one reason why this version is more effective than the original TV version (which is on RUclips). For example, they used several different sets to "play" the room. The room keeps getting smaller. The walls appear to close in. The use of editing, camerawork, lighting and sound is also sophisticated. Not only are many of the shots NOT the way they would normally be done, an incredible amount of thought must have gone into choosing just the right one.

    • @dionysiacosmos
      @dionysiacosmos 18 дней назад

      Definitely Inherit the Wind! Oscars and Golden Globes galore!

    • @TheFalconerNZ
      @TheFalconerNZ 18 дней назад

      @@dionysiacosmos Thank you for supporting the suggestion.

  • @verlitka
    @verlitka 18 дней назад +11

    The foreigner was played by Jiří (George) Voskovec, a well-known Czech actor and comedian, who emigrated to the USA when communists snatched the power in Czechoslovakia. He knew first-hand the value of freedom and justice.

  • @notabritperse
    @notabritperse 18 дней назад +24

    "Be a lot of those old character actors, probably."
    Ma'am, you nailed it.
    It's a Murderer's Row of "that guy."

    • @rafaelrosario5331
      @rafaelrosario5331 18 дней назад +2

      The meek guy with the glasses was at one point the voice of Piglet...from winnie the pooh...John Fiedler.

  • @jwes869
    @jwes869 18 дней назад +14

    Love this film. It's more like theatre. Just twelve great actors in a room acting out the story. No explosions, no graphic scenes, no car chases, no "shock value", no CGI. Just great acting. Thanks for watching and sharing with us. ❤

    • @shallowgal462
      @shallowgal462 15 дней назад +1

      That's because the original teleplay was written & performed as on a theatrical stage for television cameras broadcasting live on _CBS Playhouse_ three years prior.

    • @jwes869
      @jwes869 15 дней назад

      @@shallowgal462 Thank you. I didn't know.

    • @shallowgal462
      @shallowgal462 15 дней назад

      @@jwes869 You are most welcome.

  • @BobMartinsback
    @BobMartinsback 17 дней назад +4

    I love that this was black and white, as a result everything is heightened and the images virtually leap off the screen at you, especially during the close-ups. And the one room set compounds the claustrophobic intensity. Great cinematography and a masterclass in acting.

  • @susanliltz3875
    @susanliltz3875 18 дней назад +15

    E.G. Marshal is the one who said he doesn’t sweat , then took his glasses off to rub his nose. He was in a lot of things .

    • @sprayarm
      @sprayarm 16 дней назад +2

      Narrator for endless shows and documentaries on PBS.

  • @susanliltz3875
    @susanliltz3875 18 дней назад +11

    The guy demonstrating the switch blade is Jack Klugman!! He was in the Tv show The Odd Couple and Quincy M.E. , plus in some episodes of the Twilight Zone along with other movies!
    ( I met him once at a charity event at work, got to tell him how talented I thought he was!)

    • @KrissyFace
      @KrissyFace 18 дней назад +1

      Quincy was a favorite of mine. Just watched an episode recently!!

    • @dunbardunelm3924
      @dunbardunelm3924 18 дней назад

      That’s so cool (and kind of you) 🥰🥹✨🎬

  • @PeterMaranci
    @PeterMaranci 18 дней назад +7

    It amazes me that NOBODY ever remarks on seeing Jack Klugman so young. He was HUGE, back in the day - on The Odd Couple and Quincy, M.E.. I'm guessing he's totally forgotten now!

    • @eddiecollison
      @eddiecollison 17 дней назад +2

      Very sad, he's a legend to me for the Odd Couple.

  • @galandirofrivendell4740
    @galandirofrivendell4740 18 дней назад +10

    A true classic of American cinema. The story originated as a live teleplay a couple of years prior. Fonda wanted to produce it as a theatrical motion picture but ran into the argument of "Why? It was already done for free on TV."
    Thank God, Fonda won that argument. The movie remains an iconic drama. Today, it can often be seen as a stage play in local community theaters. I once had the good fortune of playing Juror No. 11 (the foreigner) in a local production years ago. A genuine slice of Americana and a wonderful template of how to make a thrilling drama with a good script and highly talented actors, no explosions, fancy special effects or curse words. Just superb storytelling. Loved y'all's reaction.

    • @kirkdarling4120
      @kirkdarling4120 16 дней назад

      A recording of that teleplay is available on RUclips.

  • @KrissyFace
    @KrissyFace 18 дней назад +17

    John Fiedler was also the voice of Piglet in Winnie the Pooh ❤

  • @iKvetch558
    @iKvetch558 18 дней назад +16

    That was good spotting, Nick...picking out Lee J Cobb...who played the movie loving detective, Lt William Kinderman in the Exorcist.

    • @MitchClement-il6iq
      @MitchClement-il6iq 18 дней назад +1

      Lee j cobb was a phenomenal actor! He stole this movie with his hot temper and ending, not guilty! One my favorites of his is coogans bluff with clint Eastwood.

  • @renzero9206
    @renzero9206 17 дней назад +4

    Lee J. Cobb's breakdown at the end is one of the finest pieces of acting ever imo. That monologue is just an incredible performance.

  • @iKvetch558
    @iKvetch558 18 дней назад +22

    Oh boy...so many great channels have been reacting to this one recently...and I am always happy to see folks being exposed to this film for the first time...especially the really positive reactors like Nick and Mom Jen. 😁
    Sidney Lumet is one of the great directors of all time, and this is one of his best. Another movie by Lumet that I always recommend is Fail Safe from 1964...it also stars Henry Fonda.
    Other older movies that I suggest that were not made by Lumet are...To Kill a Mockingbird(1962), Inherit the Wind(1960), and Judgement at Nuremberg(1961)...all three are highly renowned courtroom dramas filmed in black and white.

    • @thebillryan
      @thebillryan 18 дней назад +3

      Hi iKvetch, I thought I'd also mention a more recent Lumet one that's exceptionally taut and brilliantly acted. "When the devil know's your dead". From 2007. With Albert Finney and the late great Philip Seymour Hoffman. A true hidden gem.

  • @TonyTigerTonyTiger
    @TonyTigerTonyTiger 18 дней назад +10

    1) THE KNIFE
    The knife could have fallen out of the boy's pocket - onto the floor right outside the front door of his apartment - as he was leaving his apartment to go to the movies.
    That fits the timeline: The boy left his apartment at 11:30pm to go to the movies, and he said the knife fell through a hole in his pocket sometime between then - 11:30, when he left to go to the movies - and when he got back home at 3:10 in the morning.
    "JUROR 4: Now what happened to the knife? He claims that it fell through a hole in his pocket on the way to the movies, sometime between 11:30 and 3:10, and that he never saw it again. ... No one in the house saw him go out at 11:30."
    If the knife fell out of the boy's pocket as he was closing the door, the noise of the door closing could have been loud enough that he could not hear the knife hit the floor.
    This scenario puts the knife at the scene of the crime to begin with. There is no need to try to explain how the knife got from someplace else to the particular apartment. For example, there is no need to try to explain how some stranger - who doesn't know the boy or the father, or where they live - found the knife blocks away on the street and just so happened to walk to the father's apartment.
    Where the father lived was a slum so just about anyone - homeless people, drug dealers, pimps, robbers, home invaders, anyone - could have walked inside the building and found the knife on the floor right outside the father's door. It could even have been someone who lived in the same building and who hated the father (for example, because this other person knew the father used his fists to beat the son, beating the son all the time). This bum/thug/robber/neighbor finds the knife outside the door on the floor and says something ("sweet knife!") or makes some noise when picking it up and flipping it open. The father hears some noise outside his front door and opens it, only to be confronted with a bum/thug/robber/neighbor with an open switchblade knife: that person forces his way into the apartment and a fight ensues. The stabbing occurs ... with the bum/thug/robber/neighbor doing it the wrong way (from above, down and in, instead of upward and with an underhand motion, as the son probably would have done since he was very handy with knives).

    • @hertelantje
      @hertelantje 18 дней назад +3

      Never thought of that. It makes sense.
      Or it fell out of his pocket as he was running (presumably) down the stairs. One would not hear it falling down there either.

    • @MrGBH
      @MrGBH 14 дней назад

      There's also the possibility that the pawn shop owner lied about having never seen a knife like it in order to guarantee a sale.
      But if the boy had been showing the knife off to his friends, it's plausible that one of those friends bought a similar knife with the explicit purpose of murdering the boy's father.
      This could even explain why the victim allowed the killer entrance to the apartment.
      All sorts of possibilities, and not enough evidence to do more than speculate

  • @johngingras
    @johngingras 18 дней назад +6

    Yes! One of my favorite movies! So glad you watched this.

  • @eddie_77
    @eddie_77 18 дней назад +3

    My favorite youtubers finally decided to watch this timeless classic. As always great reaction!!!!

  • @MOS650
    @MOS650 18 дней назад +6

    Wow one of my Dad’s favorites. Growing up us kids enjoyed watching those old great movies with him…. Great memories.

  • @DelGuy03
    @DelGuy03 18 дней назад +5

    Women COULD serve on juries then -- in certain jurisdictions, they started serving as soon as they got the vote (there's a 1930s movie called Ladies of the Jury, in which 3 women are jurors)... but no obligation was then felt to make jury demographics reflect the community. And it wasn't hard for moms to get excused, so there often were all-male juries.

  • @stevemiller6923
    @stevemiller6923 18 дней назад +5

    Great reaction. I love how many times Jen says something about 30 seconds ahead of one of the characters.

  • @davidely7032
    @davidely7032 17 дней назад +1

    I like to point out that Joseph Sweeney was born in 1884. His father grew up during the Civil War. Our parents (and grandparents) grew up during Sweeney's final years. So we are just 3 or 4 generations away from the Civil War. 4 or 5 away from the Revolutionary War. The actor playing juror #2 was the voice of Piglet. The director locked the actors in a small room to rehearse for hours to amp up the tension. So many of the actors went on to become accomplished character actors. You know you've seen them, even if you can't nail, down the name of the film.

  • @MOS650
    @MOS650 18 дней назад +12

    I suggest the 1956 movie The Bad Seed. a psychological thriller involving an 8 yr old girl who has inherited the family trait of a serial killer… if you haven’t watched it before it’ll blow your mind.

    • @deniseg812
      @deniseg812 18 дней назад

      What would you give me for a basket full of hugs?

    • @MikiJohnson13
      @MikiJohnson13 18 дней назад +2

      Yes!!!! They have to see that one. Amazing. 🤩

    • @MOS650
      @MOS650 18 дней назад +3

      @@MikiJohnson13 indeed.

    • @Latash72
      @Latash72 18 дней назад +2

      Yesssss❤❤❤ Absolutely another great 👍🏾 👌🏾 👏🏾

    • @Huntress59
      @Huntress59 13 дней назад +1

      Great recommendation

  • @jmiyagi12345
    @jmiyagi12345 18 дней назад +14

    Never understood why people are so quick to judge Cobb’s character when it’s fairly easy to explain - hurt people hurt people.

    • @harish123az
      @harish123az 16 дней назад +3

      Thats not an excuse to send a kid to death. He should 100% be judged

    • @aaizaasghar3000
      @aaizaasghar3000 6 дней назад +2

      @@harish123az this! I agree with you!

  • @rg3388
    @rg3388 17 дней назад +1

    This film immediately came to mind when I watched DUNE. When the Fremen are said to be “dangerous and unreliable,” I sarcastically said, “Oh, there’re some GOOD things about ’em, too. I’ve known a COUPLE who were okay.”

  • @FrancisXLord
    @FrancisXLord 18 дней назад +7

    That was indeed Lee J. Cobb, who would later play the detective in The Exorcist - well spotted. Incidentally the film that won all the Oscars that this was nominated for was The Bridge on the River Kwai. Frankly I've always been in two minds about whether they made the right decision there (despite considering David Lean a Film God). Sidney Lumet was nominated for 5 Oscars in his career. The only Oscar he won though was an honorary Oscar in 2005. Also this was Lumet's first feature film.

  • @DaleKingProfile
    @DaleKingProfile 18 дней назад +4

    So the walls of the jury room were movable and they actually would make the room smaller in some scenes to heighten the tension

  • @christhornycroft3686
    @christhornycroft3686 18 дней назад +25

    Proof that you don't need a huge budget to make a great film. Henry Fonda at the time was the only big name leading man. The rest of the actors are great character actors, but they wouldn't have broken any kind of budget. The cinematography is first class, zooming in closer to the actor's faces and while there are cuts to faces and back out to wide shots, they do a great job of implying this was all shot continuously.

  • @larrybell726
    @larrybell726 17 дней назад +3

    I have seen so many reactions to this movie, it is a real pleasure to folks reacting who can name most of the character actors. 😉
    Great reaction! Thanks!!

  • @kh884488
    @kh884488 18 дней назад +2

    I love this film for many reasons. However, I think my favorite reason is that aside from the brief glimpse at the defendant at the beginning, we know absolutely nothing about the case other than from the mouths of the jurors themselves.
    We, the audience, become the jury of the jurors.

  • @detsportsfan18
    @detsportsfan18 18 дней назад +2

    Top 10 movie of all time with an immense amount of talented actors.

  • @kirkdarling4120
    @kirkdarling4120 16 дней назад +1

    Almost nobody notices that the house painter who defends the old man had showing the old man courtesy from the beginning. He had helped the old man with his chair and kept note of when the old man was in the restroom.
    I was a juror on a federal felony case in DC which started out the same way, 11-1 for guilty. The trial had lasted only 4 hours, but we deliberated for 4 days before finally delivering a non-guilty verdict. I held out for guilty until the last day...I had a similar moment to juror #4.
    Good reaction!

  • @Jeff_Lichtman
    @Jeff_Lichtman 18 дней назад +3

    This was director Sidney Lumet's first feature film. He had done work for television prior to this. Some of his other movies include The Pawnbroker, Fail Safe, Serpico, Murder on the Orient Express, Dog Day Afternoon, Network, The Verdict, and Before the Devil Knows You're Dead. Dog Day Afternoon is a favorite of mine.
    Lumet began the movie using camera angles above the jurors' heads, and slowly moved it downwards. He also used more close-ups as the movie went on. The result was an increasing feeling of being in a small space.
    One thing I like about this movie is how the different characters bring their own experiences and perspectives into the jury room with them. The old man understood why another old man would testify the way he did. The guy who lived in a slum knew about how switchblades were used in actual fights. The smallest juror who brought up the question of the kid stabbing downward while being so much shorter than his father.
    When the bigot finished ranting, the cool-headed juror told him not to open his mouth again. From that point forward, the bigot didn't utter another word. Even when he voted not guilty, he did it by shaking his head. And the look on his face suggested that he knew how wrong he had been, and that he'd been voting to send someone to die who might very well not have done it.

  • @captainofdunedain3993
    @captainofdunedain3993 18 дней назад +2

    This movie changed my life! Jurer 8th is a true hero! And the worst type of person for me is the Jurer 7th who seeks ball game.

  • @susanliltz3875
    @susanliltz3875 18 дней назад +4

    The guy in the hat is Jack Warden , he also was in many things to!!
    The last one I saw him in is the Sandra Bullock movie: “While You Were Sleeping “ ( adorable movie!!)

    • @Vlasko60
      @Vlasko60 18 дней назад +1

      Jack Warden stars in one of my favorite Twilight Zone episodes; "The Lonely".

  • @bigs1546
    @bigs1546 18 дней назад +3

    I rarely comment but I have to say that truly appreciate both of your perception of deeper concepts in so many movies. I also love that you can just laugh at absurd comedies without needing something more from them. Thank you for your combined intellect and sense of fun.

  • @ellygoffin4200
    @ellygoffin4200 18 дней назад +2

    My favorite Sidney Lumet movie is The Pawnbroker (1964). He is an incredible story teller.

  • @New-tu3mn
    @New-tu3mn 18 дней назад +2

    It’s the perfect ending to a great story that the audience is not shown for certain whether the boy committed the crime. Because juries never know that for certain. It’s all about whether, or not, a jury concludes that there is reasonable doubt of guilt, not certainty.

  • @artbagley1406
    @artbagley1406 18 дней назад +4

    Director Sidney Lumet's first film! A tour de force of framing the characters. Had a fantastic script to work with through 12 great actors.

  • @JohnSipe-jt7bm
    @JohnSipe-jt7bm 17 дней назад +1

    Joseph Sweeney and George Voskoveck were the only two actors who appeared in the original 1954 teleplay.

  • @jamesfalato4305
    @jamesfalato4305 18 дней назад +1

    This was based on a Teleplay, and the actors had 3 weeks to rehearse and They were able to really "got into their characters and their reactions to one another... And it shows...

  • @susanbotwinski5584
    @susanbotwinski5584 18 дней назад +3

    I love that you guys are hitting this! It's just amazing. Thank you! I couldn't wait to get home from work to watch. 😃

  • @jnagarya519
    @jnagarya519 16 дней назад +1

    This was Sydney Lumet's first theatrical film. He made the great 1982 film "The Verdict," which is Paul Newman at his very best. The "baseball fan" in this film is also in that film.

  • @yambo59
    @yambo59 18 дней назад +3

    One of the best dramas ive ever seen and im soon to be 65, today so many people dismiss all black and white movies as not worth watching but some of the best movies ever made in the way of great acting were black and white

  • @dionysiacosmos
    @dionysiacosmos 18 дней назад +1

    I grew up with Jack Klugman first on The Odd Couple, as Oscar Madison then as Quincy, ME. It was one of the first forensic detective shows. Both series are so good that you can only see them on premium streaming channels.
    Whenever you watch 12 Angry Men you'll always notice something new.

    • @Jen-Mom
      @Jen-Mom 17 дней назад

      I loved Quincy! 😊

  • @Proteus2905
    @Proteus2905 18 дней назад +2

    And when it was all set and done, they went their separate ways without knowing the truth behind the case... just like us viewers.

  • @jnagarya519
    @jnagarya519 16 дней назад +1

    The defendant is presumed to be innocent -- on which due process is premised. The jury does not find the defendant innocent or guilty; it determines whether the prosecution proved guilt.

  • @Paul_1971
    @Paul_1971 18 дней назад +1

    Fantastic movie - filmmaking at its finest. Script, cinematography, direction, acting - all top notch.

    • @Jen-Mom
      @Jen-Mom 18 дней назад +1

      So good!! 😊

  • @msns1978
    @msns1978 15 дней назад

    Every single detail of this masterpiece is completely deliberated. Every frame, every shot, every line. Superb performances. Perfect script. On my personal top 3 best films ever...

  • @mildredpierce4506
    @mildredpierce4506 18 дней назад +4

    Depending on the territory/state, women were given the right to be on a jury as far back as 1870. It was a nationwide, but there were some esses where they were allowed on a jury.
    By the time this movie was made, women were allowed on the jury in every state except three: Alabama in 1966, South Carolina in 1967 and Mississippi in 1968. It figures Mississippi would be last.

    • @TedLittle-yp7uj
      @TedLittle-yp7uj 18 дней назад +1

      You may have noticed that there was both a men's room and a ladies' room off the jury room.

    • @AlunThomas-mp5qo
      @AlunThomas-mp5qo 18 дней назад

      The great Hitchcock made a film in 1930 called Murder and it featured a jury of which several of its members were women.

  • @ejtappan1802
    @ejtappan1802 18 дней назад +1

    This was originally a stage play, and Sidney Lumet (film's director) rented a space and taped off the exact dimensions of the room so they could get their movements to the point that they seemed totally natural and fluid. They didn't have to think about anything but their delivery.

    • @kirkdarling4120
      @kirkdarling4120 16 дней назад

      It was originally a teleplay, not a stage play. It was specifically written for television by Reginald Rose. A recording of the original 1954 teleplay is on RUclips.

  • @martinsandt1135
    @martinsandt1135 18 дней назад +15

    Great Movie that should be shown in schools

    • @spicy321
      @spicy321 18 дней назад +5

      I saw it in school in 1988. We were all kind of groaning about having to watch an old B&W movie but very quickly the whole class was glued to it.

  • @NandR
    @NandR 18 дней назад +4

    Love this movie. I'm a sucker for dialogue driven dramas. While this era was not our best as a country, there is a certain appeal with the way these scenes are portrayed in this time. The shirt and tie era. I also enjoyed the "lawful neutral" man who never sweats. His vote was not from maleficence, but from taking the courtroom evidence purely as fact. Once he had no evidence to stand on, he calmly and firmly changed his vote with no ego. I like that compared to the others who are mostly loud and full of ego or hate.

    • @kirkdarling4120
      @kirkdarling4120 16 дней назад

      I agree, and I agree with the characterization of "lawful neutral."

  • @Gort-Marvin0Martian
    @Gort-Marvin0Martian 18 дней назад +1

    And in the end when he cries for the loss of his son you can feel the pain that he's been covering to himself.
    One of the greatest films ever. Casablanca, this one and Blade Runner. The closing monologue Blade Runner is perhaps the best of any film.
    Really glad you watched this one.
    As we say in Texas; y'all be safe.

    • @Flix2Us
      @Flix2Us  18 дней назад +1

      Yeah, the Blade Runner monologue can't be beat!

  • @Vlasko60
    @Vlasko60 18 дней назад +3

    The word "kill" was very common when I was growing up and it was just as Fonda's character stated. It was also interchangeable with "murder". You could "murder" or "kill" someone at a card game or any contest. Both were very popular in sports. "Kill him Rocky". Thankfully today, it has mostly grown out of fashion.

  • @mildredpierce4506
    @mildredpierce4506 18 дней назад +3

    John Fielder was the voice of piglet in Winnie the Pooh
    Martin balsam, who played the jury Forman, also played Arborgast in psycho

  • @susanliltz3875
    @susanliltz3875 18 дней назад +3

    The short guy with the glasses and in an early scene he was the voice of “Piglet” from the original “Winnie The Pooh” cartoons!!
    And used his watch to time how long it took the man to get to the door.
    John Fiedler ( never knew his name before but saw and heard him so many times)

  • @ridl8006
    @ridl8006 17 дней назад +2

    the best part of this movie...for me... is when.. after everything... Henry Fonda touches Lee J Cobb on his shoulder... and then helps him put on his jacket...😘

  • @gooshie3
    @gooshie3 18 дней назад +1

    I'm just so relieved Mum Jen has never been involved in any knife fights...

  • @noelleparris9451
    @noelleparris9451 13 дней назад

    I am surprised you hadn't seen this before! But so glad you finally have. It's truly one of the finest films ever, such a great script, amazing shots, fantastic acting... a cast of some of the best actors of the 20th century. One of my favorites.

  • @priyamd4759
    @priyamd4759 18 дней назад +2

    Excellent acting by everyone. Great writing.

  • @philowens7680
    @philowens7680 17 дней назад +2

    Enjoyed your reaction. Thank you.

  • @catherinelw9365
    @catherinelw9365 18 дней назад +2

    Great reaction! Sidney Lumet has a distinguished career and one of his underrated films is Dog Day Afternoon with Pacino and John Cazele. Please consider it, you’ll enjoy it.

  • @Deus5691
    @Deus5691 18 дней назад +1

    "Character" actors back then were Superb.

  • @b4k4survivor
    @b4k4survivor 18 дней назад +3

    I think it's nice that we don't know if the boy murdered his father or not. We are left to decide for ourselves and consider if we are okay with the possibility that a guilty man might go free so that an innocent man wouldn't unjustly be put to death. It captures the inherent conflict and strength/weakness of the trial by jury system/beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt/etc, at least in in the United States (which I know derives much of its practices from English Common Law, so I imagine there are many similarities between our system and the Canadian/British systems). At least maybe that applies when it comes to capital crimes and jury trials like this (though I think the US is one of the few Western democracies that even still has a death penalty).
    This is an all-time great classic. One of the best examples of 50's cinema ever. One of the reasons the staging/blocking is so good and stands out so much i(like the pivotal scene with the racist monologue and people turning their backs on him) is because this was based on an actual teleplay (which is also why the dialogue is so wonderful at communicating the visuals of the murder/witness testimony without us actually seeing anything).
    It's been studied in film school, theater classes for decades and still even today. I remember watching it in school, maybe around the time I was 12 or 13, as we were learning basics about the criminal justice system/trial by jury/right to due process/fair trial/etc.
    Another movie that deals with similar topics in a much different way/circumstances features Henry Fonda as well, much later in his life and career.... It was a made for TV movie called "Gideon's Trumpet"... it's about an inmate who challenged the particulars of his case (and imprisonment) on the grounds that he did not receive due process/a fair trial because he was forced to represent himself in court because of financial hardships (he was a poor man, uneducated and I believe borderline illiterate, at least at the time of his arrest). Eventually, his complaint/appeal made it to the Supreme Court(?) and influenced major reforms and changes that were instrumental with how defendents are treated and how their right to a defense and fair trial are determined. I don't want to say too much because it spoils it a bit, and it's a slower movie that is more about procedural stuff and human rights (I watched it in school too and don't remember all the particulars), so maybe it's not a good one to react to... but I think it was a good movie about an interesting topic, at least for American civics.
    Anyway, 12 Angry Men is probably the BEST movie of it's type. It is one of the best introductory lessons on the American jury system and is very accessible to anybody with a halfway decent attention span. I enjoyed how you both noted that women and most minority groups were not permitted on juries (which was an enormous injustice that was inherent in the system back then). I'm glad it is very popular on youtube and that both of you and other reactors enjoy it. It's great that such an old movie, black and white, can still keep people so interested and riveted. It's a testament to how awesome the script, acting, and direction/blocking/editing are.
    Even though some of the characters are always yelling and very aggressive, they have a much more naturalistic way of speaking than was common in many films of this period (you probably know what I mean... some older movies, the actors have that old timey way of speaking). In contrast, the speech in this film is very natural for the time period, and there are even "ethnic" characters with noticeable accents (I think the polite man is slavic and has that kind of accent possibly -- the darker skinned man who gets offended about the trash comments, I believe he's meant to be Italian, who were sort of the "white" but lower class group of this time period). They wouldn't have been able to get away with making this about a black defendant (with a black juror). Even including various "ethnic" groups and different professions/social classes was meant to be a demonstration of America as a "melting pot" of sort (with elements that sometimes never gel together). For its time, this was a very progressive film, both because of the topic and how it's presented, but even the casting itself and the way the script presents us with very believable, realistic characters from all walks of life was very rare for the time period (even if they are meant to be stand-ins for particular ideas like "the racist" or "the old man" at various points).
    Glad you enjoyed it. It was fun to watch your reaction. Your mom seems like such a kind lady. I'm glad you both get to spend time enjoying movies together. That's cool.

  • @mikemccabe6258
    @mikemccabe6258 17 дней назад +1

    I love this film and wish to catch it on the stage someday. Reactions shouldn't be character critiques but actor critiques including camera, lighting, sound etc.

  • @cjpreach
    @cjpreach 18 дней назад +3

    An all-time great film. Incredible.

  • @harpothehealer
    @harpothehealer 15 дней назад

    Great reaction to great film. About 20 years ago was on a murder trial and you when we retire to deliberate you realise that in real life you only need one forceful character in the room and half of um haven't listened closely enough and capitulate simply to get the thing over with such is the human condition. That is the madness of it all.

  • @longago-igo
    @longago-igo 18 дней назад +2

    It’s never ‘just’ actors, even in a closed setting like this - composition and editing play a big part in shaping our experience. Bob Fosse’s All That Jazz (1979), winner of 4 Oscars, in part, takes on that idea - a poor actor’s performance can be ‘enhanced’ in the editing room.

  • @johnmoreland6089
    @johnmoreland6089 18 дней назад +1

    Great reaction to this brilliant film. AND we learned that Nick and Jen are quite adept with switchblades!

  • @yambo59
    @yambo59 18 дней назад +1

    Theres a very good remake of this show years later, newer cars, clothes, and instead of a fan that doesnt work this time its an air conditioner - but again its also very well done.

  • @joanward1578
    @joanward1578 18 дней назад +5

    Loved Henry Fonda in Mister Roberts.

    • @mildredpierce4506
      @mildredpierce4506 18 дней назад +1

      He was also great in the wrong man.

    • @Vlasko60
      @Vlasko60 18 дней назад

      @@mildredpierce4506 Thank you for that recommendation.

  • @belvagurr403
    @belvagurr403 17 дней назад +1

    The little guy with the squeaky voice is John Fiedler, the voice of Piglet.

    • @auapplemac1976
      @auapplemac1976 16 дней назад

      He also had a continuing role in the Bob Newhart show were Newhart played a psychologist.

  • @stephaniemccarthy1676
    @stephaniemccarthy1676 17 дней назад +1

    Love this film and an honest heroic reaction! Awesome!

  • @tedrowland8672
    @tedrowland8672 18 дней назад +1

    But you're letting him slip through our fingers!!

  • @lesgrice4419
    @lesgrice4419 18 дней назад +1

    I imagine its been mentioned but this film is the adaptation of the original play.....it goes to show the prejudice of humans and how it can get in the way of doing the right thing unless one man makes a stand...

  • @geneeverett7855
    @geneeverett7855 16 дней назад +1

    The boy is likely guilty. The beauty is that doesn’t matter and isn’t the point of the film. One of the best movies of all time

  • @rafaelrosario5331
    @rafaelrosario5331 18 дней назад +1

    All your points speak to the directors job....his name was Sidney Lumet....seek out his other work Serpico...Dog Day Afternoon both with Al Pacino.....this story was first produced in 1954 for tv
    Great stuff you two
    Always grateful for your great work
    Signed subscriber 638

  • @StevenWilliams2560
    @StevenWilliams2560 18 дней назад +1

    Love your reactions. Women could serve on juries in the U.S. beginning in 1898 with the right to vote. However, they didn't start regularly serving until the 1930s.

  • @Hugh-S
    @Hugh-S 18 дней назад +1

    It was, in fact, the detective from the Exorcist lol.

  • @imocchidoro
    @imocchidoro 18 дней назад +1

    Brilliant movie, and Lee J. Cobb was phenomenal as usual.

  • @kathyastrom1315
    @kathyastrom1315 18 дней назад +3

    Such a great film!! So many great characters, all excellently fleshed out in the script and in the portrayals.
    That racist rant is brilliantly done. The order of who steps away from the table is important-the first is Juror #5, the one from the slums; #7, who doesn’t be a damn about the case, can’t be bothered to leave the table but just looks off to the side in obvious disinterest; #12 is the flip-flopper who can’t commit until nearly everyone else has; and #4 is the analytical trader who stays at the table to listen to the entire spiel before he finally reaches his own verdict on the old racist and renders his verdict and punishment, which the racist proceeds to follow.
    My other favorite monologue is #9’s analysis of the old male eyewitness. You can tell he understands the man’s loneliness and need for attention. When #3 dismisses his insight, you can see that really pains him.
    Lee J. Cobb is just fantastic as Juror #3. His performance goes on that huge arc from his first words to that last image of him walking down the outside steps, obviously lost in thought over what he had gone through in that jury room.

    • @kirkdarling4120
      @kirkdarling4120 16 дней назад

      Also, I believe the reason #9 is willing to extend deliberation is because like the old witness, he has an opportunity to participate in something significant and he savors it.

  • @djgrant8761
    @djgrant8761 10 дней назад

    The 1997 remake of this film is in colour and stars Jack Lemmon as Juror #8 and George C. Scott is Juror #3.

  • @JohnSipe-jt7bm
    @JohnSipe-jt7bm 17 дней назад

    Ed Binns(6) and Henry Fonda(8) were together in another Sidney Lumet film, 1964’s Fail-Safe. 13:15

  • @maddwitch
    @maddwitch 18 дней назад +1

    One of my favorite films.

  • @8mycake244
    @8mycake244 16 дней назад

    One of the greatest films of all time. A masterpiece. In my top five films ever.

  • @shasta810
    @shasta810 18 дней назад +1

    this movie went up against "The bridge on the river Kwai." no movie was beating that masterpiece that year!

    • @Jen-Mom
      @Jen-Mom 17 дней назад +1

      Extremely tough competition! 😊

  • @brandyanderson3522
    @brandyanderson3522 17 дней назад +1

    It actually wouldn't be as uncommon then for someone to not know anything about the movies they went to see. Few people had AC, especially in the slums, so when it got how people would go to the air-conditioned movie theater. It was a cheap way to cool off, more than about watching the movies. Some would even go in and go with the plan of sleeping through the movie

  • @MrLovegrove
    @MrLovegrove 18 дней назад +1

    I don't know how many remakes they've made of this. I saw a made-for-tv version with Jack Lemon in the Henry Fonda role. It was better than I expected with some very good acting performances, but it pales in comparison to the original. Still worth watching, but without Sydney Lumet's brilliant directing, it falls far short.

  • @ejtappan1802
    @ejtappan1802 18 дней назад +1

    John Fiedler... the original voice of Piglet in Winnie the Pooh.

  • @geneeverett7855
    @geneeverett7855 16 дней назад

    The beauty of it is it doesn’t matter if he was guilty or not. That wasn’t the point

  • @MikiJohnson13
    @MikiJohnson13 18 дней назад +1

    Double dose of Nick and Jen today. Just finished Remember the Titans and now this. This is a great film.

  • @shallendor
    @shallendor День назад

    One of my favorite movies! 12 men talking in a room! should be boring, but the cast are so talented and have a great story!

  • @sprayarm
    @sprayarm 16 дней назад

    The jury foreman (Martin Balsam) was private investigator Arbogast in Psycho.

  • @jnagarya519
    @jnagarya519 16 дней назад

    The father did time for forgery. He was a criminal. Did he have enemies?
    Switchblades were illegal. The store owner who sold the knife claimed it was the only one (of its kind) that he'd seen. Was he going to admit violating the law by having and selling an illegal knife?
    The juror with the moustache is an immigrant -- and better understands due process than most of the other jurors.
    Key question: what does the elderly juror know about being elderly?

  • @rohandunt3537
    @rohandunt3537 11 дней назад

    19:23 The parallel between this dialogue and your comments regarding a certain 2016 speech is perfect. Listen to that "Certain speech" unedited and you'll get what l mean

  • @MikiJohnson13
    @MikiJohnson13 18 дней назад +1

    Speaking of The Exorcist...it's a bit early but I suggest that Nick and Jen watch "The Exorcist III: Legion", during Halloween. It's the only acceptable sequel and it's amazing...it rivals the original, IMHO. George C. Scott and Brad Dourif star and Dourif should have received an award for his performance.

  • @lindalee5866
    @lindalee5866 18 дней назад +1

    Great reactions!

  • @m.hreels9822
    @m.hreels9822 18 дней назад +1

    I'm so glad you're watching this phenomenal movie! This is definitely one of the world's best movies of all time. ❤👍🏻🎥

  • @3Kings_Industries
    @3Kings_Industries 18 дней назад +2

    Its a great film

  • @susanliltz3875
    @susanliltz3875 18 дней назад +1

    A great movie!!
    Glad you loved it!!
    It still holds up after all these years!!