Why Millionaire Collectors Are Obsessed With A $600 Watch.
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Tons of watch collectors won't even think twice about brands offering watches under $10k, but there is one microbrand that is changing that....and that's Baltic! Today, the boys sit down and take a closer look at the latest Baltic offerings, and discuss how Baltic has carved a name for themselves in the watch collecting world, and why they should not be ignored.
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Just want to clarify *this video is not sponsored by Baltic* . I said it a little too late in this video but Baltic has not contacted us, paid us, etc. We just noticed that Baltic is occupying a weird space in the watch world where very high level collectors are showing off Baltics regularly (or it feels like it), and people are constantly recommending a Baltic over $20k something watches. Huckberry sponsored this video and they don't sell Baltic in their shop.
*Michael also noted later in the video that the watches do feel rather cheap*
Those cheap b*******
I’m sure you have heard of the following micros, but not sure if you have handled them. I find that both Wise and Traska offer great value with equally good quality. Just in case you wanted to check out something new. Traska Freediver and Wise Adamascus diver specifically are pieces I really enjoy. I also took a flyer on the Arken Alterum several months back and am awaiting its arrival. I will follow up with you and let you know my thoughts if you are interested? Again, thanks for taking the time to create and share great content.
3 months from now, sponsored by baltic :D (jokes)
Who said it better than 20k watches delusional fantasists ,it's a nice watch for the money ,no.more no less
BS!
These guys are GREAT together. Keep it up guys- love coming home from work and having a listen to you guys.
i love how Christian wants us to believe he plays a sport.
He's such a tool.
He might fence or do single skull rowing that sounds about right for his whole preppy old money schtich
Sissi boi playing sports
Pickleball
His sport is competitive talking dude talks as much as a coked out wo man
Give Harris a clip on mic so he can use both hands when he speaks!
We're trying to stop that mans hands anyway we can
@@TheoandHarristhe worst form of torture for an Italian
@@mw2mini carbonaraa eeyyy
As someone who likes watches because he likes beauty in machinery and is not an extreme watch nerd, I actually like Ampersand's contribution to the channel as the voice of the somewhat-knowledgeable. I don't know why so many were so negative.
The analogy here is what makes a great cover song?
1/ It emulates the feeling and essence that make the original great but 2/ reinterprets it, bringing something new and original.
For a watch, if the “cover” is also more affordable, obtainable and - importantly - less of a liability to wear anywhere…then that’s interesting!
All here! Theo, and … and Harris
I have a Baltic, also Christopher Ward, three Rolex’s and two speedy’s. You guys are correct.
Bought my MR01 during one of the early production runs with a long preorder wait, it is awesome. Feels a bit light and tin-y on wrist becuase of the size and plexi crystals but its so comfortable and the dial is insane.
Always love starting the work week with the boyz
Great episode, lovely long format with 3 perspectives is a great show!
I may be crazy but I think Sam and Michael should switch seats.
Fun discussion. Interesting topic. Thanks guys!
You guys need a bigger table. It’s a bit small where you can see everyone’s ugly shoes and a round table really makes whoever’s in the middle look small.
I have a buddy who has two Baltics…both have had to go the Grand Central Watch for servicing …but the Aquascaphe in bronze is really quite striking.
I think the joy of microbrand watches is that for someone who only has 1 high-end luxury watch purchase in their life, they can find out what they do and don't like, what suits and what doesn't at a fraction of the price than making all those mistakes with real money. Plus, some of them are great watches. Tried on a few (grail) luxury watches at the airport, and they're just so shiny it seems tacky compared to watches at a fraction of the price.
Like a good haircut, the shine fades in a few weeks. The cuff of your sweater will micro scratch all that high polish into a dull shine. It’s the reason I have no interest in Grand Seiko when the fancy polish is good for a day or two then it’s the same as Rolex, omega, any other good watch.
@@Explorer40mm interesting, cheers
I picked up a first edition mr01 salmon dial from my watch repair guy for $375 last year. It’s a beautiful piece and the only small complaint I have is the blue strap. I replaced it with a brown crocodile strap and it really elevated the look.
Nice, will give this advice a try! Thank you 👍🏼
You guys need to talk about the Longines tuxedo chronograph. It's an absolutely gorgeous dial that you can get from a dealer for under $3k brand new. I own this one myself and I love wearing it. There aren't many RUclips clips about it and Longines doesn't really promote it but I think it might be their best looking watch.
For reference, I have many higher end pieces but I also have the HMS and MR01 silver (among other inexpensive micro brands). They are great inexpensive pieces that look great however, in my opinion the quality comparison to higher end pieces that I see across the internet is inappropriate. That’s not to say they are not a great value as they are but it’s important to manage expectations. The above said, I genuinely enjoy finding and collecting micro brands alongside more established manufactures.
I love the fact you all got different tastes. So funny to hear you mock Christian for his love of dainty dress watches. I think that’s a cool thing to like. I am thinking of getting one myself actually. I love the Piaget Emparado at the moment. I can safely say that this channel is making me look at different watches all the time. Going to have a look at Baltic
FYI - this 'category' really was pioneered by Dan Henry, who launched in 2016 - a YEAR before Baltic and 5 years before Furlan Marri. ;)
Important! It's a modern watch, in the style of a retro. In everyway, style, feel, quality. So their competition is something old. When you understand this, then you can evaluate your Baltic. I have two Aquascaphes. My bronze took some getting used to, but after changing straps, is now a firm favourite. The titanium is great to use like a G Shock, when you go to a dodgy part of town in the evening.
BTW, great content today. Everyone is working well together. I think the three hander is a good way forward.
Baltic finishing is mediocre and they generally feel cheap. Design was very nice. I know because I had one and sold it
Design is always nice when you copy patek.
@@user-tb1jy7rr9e you’re exactly right.
I agree. I was an early adopter and bought their gmt because I wanted to support the brand. But the movement felt cheap and fragile when adjusting the time or winding it. I ended up giving it to a budding watch enthusiast as a high school graduation gift and he loves it. That brings me more joy than owning it myself because I’ve gotten a bit fancier in my old age 😂
@@acknastyexactly the same bro. I got the gmt as soon as it dropped. I still root for Baltic but it felt like I got a faulty watch when I got my gmt.
Can we do a video ranking or comparing micro brands only? I’ve been trying to figure out which micro brands are cool with history vs. just copying popular designs
Great video guys, as usual. I do think you missed the mark on comparator microbrands. There is no discussion of Baltic that doesn’t include Lorier. You want a Quintessential dive watch, Lorier has one. You love classic GMTs, Lorier has one. You want a globally recognized dress watch, Lorier has one. You should really take a look at Lorier if you like Baltic and the price point. AND they are in your backyard! I might be mistaken, but I think “Lorier did it first”.
Couldn't have said it better myself. "I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!"
Im french, i should naturally see Baltic with loved eyes, but i prefer Lorier since day one.
‘I see a lot of myself in Bradley cooper’…my man wearing Clark wallabies. This ep is god tier.
I love my wallabies, but I think I'd rather look like Bradley Cooper.
I love Baltic. They look the part. I feel like their watches are "Moonswatches" for dress watch people; something that is charming, fun to wear, and at impulse buy level.
More like moonswatch me lad
Classic designs, executed beautifully, at great price points; Baltic kills it. I own an Aquascape Gmt and love it. And with their OnlyWatch submission, I can see Baltic stepping up their complications.
I was able to handle a Baltic MR01 at Windup Fair and found them difficult to wind...maybe its was overwound at that time. I wanted to buy, but got instead a Brewmatic and a Bulova Jetstar!
The Baltic GMT is a stunning piece...great value for money.
25:56 kind of like saying we're all wearing ugly shoes so you can flex your $1K kicks. :P
I own a Rolex, Tag and Oris. But my two Baltics are my two faves👍
I think the baltic MR01 makes an interesting point for several chinese made Interlaken, Lobbini or Pierre Paulin dressy pieces. Suddenly you get the same realm watches (even with the same movement) with equal finishing for $100-300.
I agree, but what I find totally unacceptable is that the Chinese watches are desperately and completely falsely apeing swiss watches. The Lobbinis could be decent pieces if only they would simply own their heritage and be what they are.
Baltic also made collabs with Revolution and A Collected Man which gave the recognition by the collecting community already some time ago
I bought the baltic tricompax (panda) chronograph back in September, it is a gorgeous piece, I love it
What do you guys think of Serica? I absolutely love their designs and think they are a good value.
MR01 the perfect watch for a wedding…where there might be a fight.
Personally, I’d have a Lobbini for a fraction of the price.
That is how I felt with the prx while I save up for the royal oak. It is a placeholder and once I get the royal oak I will give the prx to my son.
I had a bicompax Baltic I bought in 2019, then I sold it a few years later. The pin snapped off completely hen I pulled the crown out to set the time.
Agreed. Bought a Baltic. I plan to buy a Chopard 1860. The Baltic is a great place holder.
will be seeing Baltic this week in London...
I used to own 8 watches under 1000$. I sold all of them when I downsized my collection EXCEPT the Salmon MR01...still a beauty 😍
Everyone is schilling Baltic right now
Yes when companies go to far on this it can turn people away from their brands .
I agree about the omega seamaster chrono I have an 861 in gold and it’s amazing
fascinating about Baltic given the non-Swiss movements they use. not judging at all just an observation. i mean i'll take their sector dial in a NY minute. in fact i just did!!
I sent in a watch to be serviced months ago, and my emails on its status are being ignored. How can I resolve this issue? Thanks
Hi! Could you email us at office@theoandharris.com? Happy to help
Lol never send them your watch
Have the MR-01 in Salmon, and have enjoyed it despite some quibbles with the overall dial layout. The Bregeut numerals and small seconds are far too large and out of proportion and as a result, it looks crowded and not as elegant, which is a shame. It's a great everyday piece.
The MR01 is riffing on the Patek 5026. Fun Discussion!
Wow Theo And Harris together.
how do you guys not touch on the quality control issues that so many ppl report ont he MR01 from loose crystals to movement failures, alot of warranty send backs and replacements....
I have not heard of this. Where are you hearing this?
@@turnbasedtoddy7664 forums
How reliable are the watches? How about aftersales?
I cannot unsee a young Mr. Costanza !
“I’m never looking at anything” 😂
The watch I am wearing and my favourite watch is my 42mm Tudor Pelagos .
Ok so…
If I have an AP skeleton…. In bi metal.
And I’m wearing a shirt & tie….
Is that ok?
(Cos I think it looks the nuts!)
Or what if I’m wearing a black sweater. In between dress and sport… and I be wearing an ap skeleton but now it’s a ceramic. (Other than not bumping into anything) am I wearing a dress or a sports watch?
Someone genuinely asked me this yesterday because Im extremely lucky to know an individual with a beautiful watch collection who has a lovely habit of lending me watches before I buy
Maybe a little on the nose but, it’s only Baltic’s dress watches that feel specifically like Patek. They have more sports models than dress in their lineup and I’d argue their sports lineup occupy a bigger space in the general collector sphere
I love Baltic I’m getting the aquascaphe next but the next big micro brand kinda an independent actual the brand wise is punching up with furry they are similar prices to Baltic but they seem slightly better price and the steels the use are 904L and Damascus steel…
In regard to Chris’ Ward’s 2023 Moonphase… There is an obscure micro-brand (with a Swiss designer and maybe some backing - I don’t remember) producing in China - Agelocer - with a very similar moon-phase watch, with shiny big moon and a blue aventurine dial.
They launched the watch in 2021!They even made a second or even a third variation since then.
And many other watches. Very interesting dials and some quirky movements, some heavily modified if not made up from scratch. Worth a look, at least for gossip factor :))
Theo, And & Harris all on the same vid👍
I owned that watch (MR01) and it was the cheapest feeling watch I’ve ever owned. It looked good from like 3+ feet away, but close up it’s so trash. Even people who know nothing about watches can tell it’s shit quality. My mom’s first impression was that it feels cheap, and she thinks my dad’s citizen watches are the nicest watches on earth lol. Owned this watch for a week and sold it, it was the most disappointing purchase ever.
It took me actual time to determine if the case was plastic or not… that’s how bad it was. I was literally afraid to wind it because the hands were so flimsy feeling. It would like rock backwards to the previous second if you stopped in the middle of a wind and would often get stuck.
I actually can’t believe they’re presenting it in this light. How anyone could hold this watch and still praise it is beyond me. I felt ripped off
If Sam wants a microbrand GMT for under 2k, that's interesting, he should check out the Farer Lander
Great recommendation! Farer has some very interesting offerings.
my aquascaphe still gets a lot of looks!
Part of the thing with a potential shift to dress watches is that they come with outfits that a lot of people seem to be opposed to on a deepset and (I have always argued) unintentionally self-destructive level. I love dress watches, and I love the outfits they come with. But the resistance to these - especially among Americans - is often brutal.
Food for thought, no more, no less.
I picked up my Bluesy from the AD over the weekend. I wore my Baltic MR01 salmon dial to go. I got say at the bar in the AD whilst I waited and honestly all the other customers collecting their watches were so interested in my watch and wanted to know about it. Baltic just seems to be a brand real watch people love. They were all wearing daytonas etc but the Baltic was the point of focus for everyone
Same thing would have happened with the MoonSwatch at a certain point in time.
A guy wearing a MoonSwatch looking in the window of an AD was tapped to on the glass to come into the store.
Whereas guys looking in the window waving their Batman about like a bell end will be snubbed 😂
Wear anything pink when you next pick up a Rolex and it will get mentioned.
I am actually going to buy something pink to test this theory when I pick up my Submariner (steel, you know, the hard one to get with the most resale margin) 😎
Basically people feel compelled to mention something different/unexpected/crap.
Which AD do you use?
Are you in the U.K. too’
Mine in the U.K. has just been refitted and has a very nice bar, but did not see anyone at it.
They just brought my beer to the collection room.
The concept of multiple people at the bar seems wild….. and ‘all’ wearing Daytonas ‘etc,’!!!
Sounds fantastic(al) 🦄
@@alfieakaronaldogGoldsmiths in Trafford Centre Manchester
Great marketing tactic. Very smart! 🎉
Micro brand? They’ve entered into the independent brand category
I had the Aquascaphe in bronze. Very attractive and fun piece, but the lume was woefully bad. Most micro brands really excel at luminescent material. I was so disappointed I had to sell it. It was nearly the perfect watch.
Love yall!
I respectfully disagree with Christian on “ everyone must one 1 sports watch or 1 dress watch”. Not everyone cares about watches like we watch enthusiasts do. Also, this hobby is expensive so someone who doesn’t care about it isn’t going to buy multiple watches.
If anything, everyone should own one dress/ casual watch whether that’s an Omega Aquaterra38/41, Rolex OP or Datejust , or even some options from Longines like the Spirit 37/40 or new Conquest. You can put any of these watches on straps and dress them up or keep them on their bracelets and wear them more casually.
It’s worse when people say “no collection is complete without a Speedmaster”
@@mimikatzEven though I am an Omega fanboy I actually agree and understand what you mean. All these watches people say you need or your collection isn’t complete ( Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch, Rolex Explorer, Casio GSchock ) is just not accurate. None of those watches are bad watches, but they’re not for everyone. I’m not into the Explorer at all and I tried liking GSchocks multiple times and just couldn’t get into them. I’m actually more afraid admitting I don’t like GSchocks more than admitting I don’t like the Rolex Explorer 🤣🤣🤣
@@SirDrSuperKittensMuch for muchness in the Rolex / Casio cult .
Where did Goldberger mention the Tudor BB Bronze?
Yea fr
Tapped out at 13:34. Even my ADHD couldn’t keep up.
I was expecting this to be a G Shock video. I daily a Baltic Aquascahphe GMT blue/green.
The Aquascaphe GMT uses a Soprod C125 Swiss movement.
I abuse the crap out of it and the only visible scratches are on the bracelet clasp.
The Baltic scratched my itch for a GMT. My next watch will probably be an 18k yellow dress watch. Either a new JLC Master Calendar or second hand Saxonia.
@@jokeassasin7733 Both of those are killer watches!
I have the same one and completely agree. I wear it everywhere and no scratches except the clasp.
We had a Baltic mr01 come into the shop, and it looked fantastic! But when I picked it up the metal felt too light. If you’ve ever held a Michael Kors or a Fossil quartz it felt similar to that.
Personally, I don't need weight at my wrist. I have the mro1 salmon and with a grey grained strap it's the perfekt summer watch !
Had the same feeling when I saw it at the windup fair in nyc. They looked tremendous but the BOR bracelet felt for lack of a better word, cheap. Also feel the same way about Lorier bracelets, which is a shame because I love the designs both those brands offer.
It’s a small, thin dress watch. My Nomos is really light too.
I should’ve clarified, I love the way the 33mm Nomos wear, very light but the weight is eveningly distributed. It’s hard to describe the feeling of the Baltic unless you’ve held one.
its a micro rotor bro , meaning a light weight movement , and its a small watch ....... soooo why did you expect it to be heavy ?????????
Watch Studio Underdog and I believe they will matter soon.
Inside automatic Furlan Marri you have Lajoux Perret mouvement
You can’t compare with seagull Chinese mouvement inside de MR01 Baltic
wait the name makes sense now
Theo
AND
Harris
I gotta say, although I like the new studio, I miss the old wall in the background with the old lighting and the bottle on the shelf. But... Michael's forehead is less shiny in the new studio. Great success!
I like the focus and insight on the independents. I love Sam for not picking his nose every two seconds. Guys, this is gross and must stop, please! Just pretend somebody is watching you. Thanks!
They do a lot of cocaine
Goldberger also showed a Timex S2 on his IG feed. It does look very good and I don’t mind at all that it’s a Timex. It’s a watch for someone who has nothing to prove. - No, this comment was not sponsored by Timex. I have vintage Omega and other smaller vintage watches as I found the big ones did not work for me - for example the Heuer Monaco. While a really nice watch as an object, it was just too heavy for me.
Lorier matters
I wish some of the dress watches were 39mm and not 36mm
They're dress watches bud
Great to see all of you guys at the same time. Good people
Christian: Unless mistaken I noticed that you have been wearing a Gerald Charles lately on the last videos. Could you please confirm and share your wearing experience. Thx.
It’s interesting that we look at someone with a gmt collection who never travels differently than a dive watch collector who doesn’t dive. Maybe because of the risk/fear. Maybe it’s the larger barrier to entry. But you can travel without a gmt, you can’t dive without a dive watch.
Pilots watch left the chat
Who doesn’t travel?
Agree with you though (hence mentioning pilots watches) 😉
Chronographs are not needed to time anything, something is needed to be timed for chronographs.
It’s just jealousy.
It’s description of a style of watch, not a definition of use.
Overweight people wearing smart/fitness watches is the best example of this.
What are people with tourbillon’s meant to do?
Walk around with their watch hand permanently in one position in relation to the earth’s magnetic field all day long? 😂
@@alfieakaronaldog I think a lot of people never cross a time zone. For that matter many people never go farther then 30 miles from where they were born
@@brettwinder6327 Yeah I can imagine that.
I know most Americans do not have passports, but figured they would visit a different state that had a different zone perhaps.
Ive owned the MR01 for a year ish now,, great watch except for... the movement. Handwinding feels crap, rotor winding feels crap, time setting feels crap, keeps reasonable time tho
Don'r get me wrong here, but I bought the MR01 in gold the day it was released and I had to send it back, the cristal made noise just by swiping over to clean it because it's too thin and the micro rotor was so loud that my wife could hear it across the room. She even asked, did you really paid 600 euros for that watch? Horrible experience, very nice watch, but the quality is still miles away from the cheapest seiko.
cheers,
LM
I’ve had an MR01 and played with the watches in their London showroom a couple of times. I find them a little meh. Just another microbrand. A CW Bel canto is the only watch from this space which really blows my mind.
I’m with Sam on the gmt preference 👌
When is Baltic going to upgrade the movement in their watches?
Oooooooo….aahhhhhh……that gold Seamaster…….ooooo…..
We should also appreciate the name of the brand and logo of Baltic IMO. It's not a name like Furry Mary, I bet that puts some collectors off. Just like how I refuse to buy a BALL watch even though tritium is cool.
It's like calling a watch from Estonia " Meditarennean" .
If they made a solid gold tricompax, I might go
To answer the microbrand with a POV that matters question:
Farer Universal.
Stienheart gmt great watch
Zdang. Let's never talk about 321 seamaster. It is a watch that is still kind of low in price but good as anything in any perspective. At least in my mind
This video is sponsored by Baltic.
wish it was!
This comment is sponsored by Baltic
Absolutely it is! Or it's just a coincidence that another Chanel "just one more watch " published yesterday a sponsored video by...let's all say this together...Baltic! Yeah just a sheer coincidence...no one is promoted anything. It's not like Baltic came out with a new campaign...no no no 😂😂😂😂😂😂 what a F*king joke this channel is so fake and it's disgusting that they try to deny it. Shame on those pathetic simps
😂😂😂
🤣😂 bunch of losers deleted my response. Weak...as I said simps
Baltic will be sending the whole collection to them, free.😂
Wallabies are a classic shoe! Wtf is the hate coming from!
Checked the Baltic and like the guy in the right said, I will not purchase as it’s coming out of my next watch budget. But I’m in a decent spot where I can wait with and OP and a Sub.
I want an MR01, but I refuse to get one until they put sapphire on it. At that price point, there's no excuse for it not to have one. Hell, Chinese copy, the Militado ML01 (an exact copy) costs $99… The only difference is the movement, and the MR01 doesn't have a great one to begin with. I think Baltic and Yema are great watches, but they should be cheaper. Especially the Yema. I'd rather have a MAEN or CW.