Bless you for making this one. I've lived in Fleetwood all my life. We were the biggest deep sea fishing port on the West coast, and the town lost trawlers with all hands; as with the East Coast ports. We had a great maritime heritage; and a fine Railway before Blackpool, our younger neighbour. My dad was a Ship's Rigger preparing the trawlers' gear. Also, many Fleetwood boys went to sea 'Pleasuring' with their Dads, Uncles and older brothers, during Summer holidays; often to the Summer grounds. And many women made/repaired the fishing nets, or worked in firms associated with the processing or transport of fish. There were sometimes as many fish trains running at night, as passengers during the day. And so the sea played a big part of our lives. As children, we watched the trawlers going out to sea, and in Winter, we wondered if we'd see all of them again. Having to retire early from the Railway, I became a Poet/Author, and some of my work includes our maritime past. Below is one such piece. THE PRICE OF FISH. The price of fish, was the lives of men; some went to sea, but ne'er came back again. Many families supplied the crews; of Fleetwood trawlers, and they made the news. They left so early, on the morning tide; as wives and mothers waved, then sat and cried. "Where's Daddy", was the children's' call; "He's off to sea for yer tea, that's all". Their older brothers, just turned eleven; would go each Summer, their idea of heaven. They steamed up North, by the Hebrides; young faces brushed, by the Westerly breeze. The youngsters pleased, in the usual way; as our trawler Jacinta, edges into Stornoway. a welcome meets them, as they take their ease; from familiar faces, locals, of the Hebrides. And then time comes, as the North wind pounds; they're off once more, to those Summer grounds. Farewell Stornoway, those friendly times we'll miss; farewell, as they see the light, for the Butt Of Lewis. Three weeks the boys, would be away from home; they dream of being men, and distant seas to roam. But now they're back and safe, as Mothers always wish; yet sometimes, Winters don't return them all. Such, is the price of fish. BY JACK D. HARRISON.
As a, former, UK (Scottish/inshore crab) fisherman myself (up until very recently, as of 2020) I can testify that the description of fishermen given here; "three-day millionaires" is very much accurate even now, minus the tailored suit. The last few months I worked at the fishing I used to bury myself in drink and quite often cannabis, at least on the increasingly rare times I could afford it now that fishing is slim pickings as far as wages go. I'm also the survivor of a shipwreck that same afore mentioned year, Kingfisher K436, thankfully both us aboard survived thanks in no small part due to the solid build quality of our boat but also a great thanks to the boys of the Kirkwall lifeboat crew and the local coastguard shore team for coming to our assistance as well as the various other local fishing boats in the area which came to assist.
Another shipwreck survivor here...Ulysses PD76...took a huge lump of water 190 miles NE of Peterhead in the Norwegian sector...unbelievable luck there was a chopper in the air 5 minutes away and all seven of us lived to see another day. I was the youngest aboard at 19. Had a few close calls and seen thing I can never forget....Piper Alpha in flames is something scorched into my memory. Three day millionaires describes things perfectly. Rest in peace all souls lost at sea.
Thank you so much! I`m Icelandic, born in the Vestman Islands (`55). Worked several winter seasons (Jan-May) on fishing boats off the coast of Iceland. We have had our share of casualties at sea. This story reverberates with my own lived experience. All the best! Billi.
If I haven't said this you have such a great voice for narrating. Always a great treat to listen to your channel. Decent into darkness. You do a great job trying to show the truth in history. JDP Underhill 10/00/2023 great day to you and yours God bless
This is a very down-to-earth narration as a man myself who lost dear close friends (fishermen) at sea I appreciate your video very much - thankyou, my closest lost friend Sean Cotter (64) out of Castletownbere a pioneer of the Porcupine Bank died when Kyle Mhorr capsized and he is so missed for many years later. And that is why I appreciate the down-to-earth narration - thank you so much. Bless all lost at sea it is heart breaking.
Thank you for reading all their names that their loss may not be forgotten. My family lost 5 members on cargo ships in WW2 each of them had nothing but praise for trawlermen. A hard life and little regard from those whose bellies they fed. Bless you all who roam the seas.
This was very well told, and I really appreciate you spending so much of the time talking about what these communities did to change things for the better. There will probably always be dangerous jobs, but it is so important to remember that it is very possible to make them safer.
As always, brilliant story and narration!!! Also, thanks for sharing the Luckiest Sailor song, as performed by the Spare Hands - those kids can really, really wail!!! Cheers!
Hull lass born and bred. My friends Dad was on one of the lost trawlers from around that time. The *ARCTIC CORSAIR* , the last Hull sidewinder, is nearing a complete overhaul and will soon be moored in it's new dry dock on the River Hull. It will be open to visitors next year with a new visitor centre - something to please everybody.
I'm quite down mentally right now and when I saw the new video, it boosted my mental stability quite a bit. Your voice is so soothing and perfect for narrating. I'm happy to be a patreon supporter and happy for every video You release. This one is another gret piece of storytelling You've released and I just hoped it wouldn't end. You're doing a terrific job with your videos, keep it up (please). Greetings from germany.
A most interesting video. I have seen the "Deadliest catch" series, and even nowadays, I appreciate the danger of that profession. But THIS video is quite different. For my life, I cannot imagine going out to sea with almost no safety equipment. Those brave men.
I was quite touched by the coming together of the community to rally around those that lost a loved one and that a loss for one was a loss for all. Boy, that Lillian musta been quite the Gal! (I felt her imposing and indomitable spirit just by her image!) Chaos bless the "Headscarf Heroes". It's just sad that no matter the era, money will always get the "lifejacket" and a spot on the raft first. In a lotta ways, I wish maybe I lived in those _simpler_ times, not on the BOATS!!!, but in the community just for the people and the character of the towns. It is...bittersweet. Well done! I just hit the subscribe button. Thank you! \m/
Interesting video about this triple tragedy. I was at sea myself on the night it happened as R/O onboard the Fleetwood trawler ST Wyre Mariner fishing not far off Isafjord. The worst weather I had ever experienced. Luckily we managed to get into port in Isafjord but the ship did sustain damage and part of the fish room was flooded. Temporary repairs were made so that we could sail back to Fleetwood.
Yes the weather was really extreme with very high winds which were above storm force 10 and severe icing conditions. It was really difficult to turn the ship into the wind. It took us around 3 hours to get into the safety of Isafjord as we were 18 miles off land at the time.
Thanks for another great video DiD! Blown away by that trck at the end... I'll be hitting up The Minerva next time I'm in Hull. Fantastic track. What an amazing acapella. Truly, thanks for the heads up! Edit: Mally, if you happen to read this, I'll be hunting you down. Want to witness that one live!
Almost immediately makes me think of this fatal crash in the German Bight about 12 miles off Heligoland three days ago! One vessel (the "Verity") sank to the bottom after the collision with a larger ship (the "Polesie"), with 4 men reported missing. How could this happen? Unlike the accident of 1968, ships now have transponders and other state-of-the-art equipment on board!
That's the line that got me, too! What a stark way to put it, but so scarily true! Mally is a brilliant singer! He and I need to do a duet at some point!
My better half was drawn to enquire what I was watching when she heard the song at the end, as A cappella folk music is not my thing. However she comes from a family of old school folkies. On seeing the title of the video she immediately named the Kingston Peridot* as one of the trawlers lost and pointed me in the direction of another song about this tragedy, Three Ships by Mike Waterson, covered by Coope Boyes & Simpson on their Twenty-Four Seven album. Last track on the album is Mike Waterson performing it himself, apparently recorded over the phone. *She never ceases to amaze me :-)
I suppose that they were paid the big bucks because of the danger. Would they have fore gone some of the big bucks to pay for their safety? After all, if it was safer, then the big bucks would be arguably less required! I’m playing devils advocate but....
All I am suggesting is that how pleased would they be to have their salaries reduced by the profits going instead to enhance the vessel safety?That’s why you need the regulations to set the standards otherwise the crew will accept danger for enhanced money. If you read the excellent book “last man off” you will see how complacency can take hold. It’s very easy to blame the companies for penny pinching but ask the crews what they prioritise! I blame humans and happenstance 😂
As an Icelander I will say that is not all of it. The seas here are unforgiving and not even the largest of ships are safe. The ocean is unforgiving and some in Iceland believe that the sea needs something in return for what we take.
thank you for the video and the narration may all those lost rest in peace may the families feel the good energy and best wishes sent for us all . I bow my head dof my hat and salute all those brave men
I worked at sea for many years, been in a few hairy situations on prawn trawlers, here in Australia. But that's not work, that those guys do. That's insanity.
What a wonderful video, I remember all of these news items from the time. I have always had the most tremendous respect and admiration for all the fishermen in hull and particularly the women who campaigned for safer working conditions for the men.
A tragic tale of fishermen lost to the cruel promise of the sea, as the son of a fisherman and shrimper I can understand the feelings of loss of sorrow. You have done them a measure of justice ⚖️ 👏 I enjoyed the telling of the effort by the women who fought a valiant and noble cause to improve safety and working conditions on board the boats. Kudos to you 👏 amigo y en paz descansen. 😢
A really well toned video. There's a book about the sinking of the Ross Cleveland called Doom in the Deep by Ottar Svensson who compiled accounts of the boats, and the Icelandic crews who tried to help save her. I first read it years ago and it's both gripping and heartbreaking in equal measure.
indeed respect for the fisherman..my uncle had one..also in the north sea..when i was 16..35 years ago i went along for one week...my god ...i remember being so sea sick...hard work...like constant...but the money is good..i remember the oil cost for 1 week fishing...was 10.000 gulden...then that is now 5000 euro..thanks for the new vid..cheers mate
Yeah, I don’t like robo voices. You can’t get nuance and inflictions correct that way. People seem to like my voice, so it would be a crazy decision to go against that.
On the East Coast of the United States we call sidewinder Eastern Rigs. Aren’t any left that are trawling. Everyone switched to stern trawlers for the ease of hauling back and be allowed to use larger gear. There are some Eastern Rig scallopers left.
Most of my family are from hessle road and one of my great grandfathers was a skipper for Boyd line. They’re so many stories of injuries and loss of life
I remember going to the national fishing heritage centre ages ago. I can confirm the tour of the Ross Tiger was worth it and a real eye opener. The guy that did the tour when we went was its skipper. But given that was back in the early 00's its most likely hes stopped doing it now.
It is a fantastic place. I’be always been of the belief that we must listen to the old hands, no matter what their background. One day, they will gone and so will their stories, so we MUST listen!
I was a fisherman out of Peterhead for years and know only too well about tradgedy at sea. I was only wee and not even at school when the Trident was lost with all hands...my dads mates. I was on a boat myself that sank in a storm and was lucky there was a chopper happened to be in the area...we all got to go home that time. Its a hard job...very unforgiving and not for the weak. R.I.P all who gave their life to the sea 😢
They often say that the cook always survives! Appalling tragedy. The book “last man off” details the loss of a fishing boat and the degree to which complacency can override safety features.
Just came across your channel 1st story I've listened to of yours and found it very enjoyable although a sad story. My cousin ran a fishing boat out if Peterhead Aberdeenshire unfortunately he passed a few year's ago. A very strong bread Fishermen and their wives especially back in those day's.
Having experienced working on a sidewinder out of Newlyn Cornwall never felt comfortable with this style of fishing very dangerous was so glad when the vessel i was berthed on became a stern trawler my heart goes out to the families and the brave souls on these vessels RIP
I remember my father telling me "It's bad luck to change a ships name." Everytime I hear about a ship swapping names right before they head down to the bottom.
I’d expect the captain and possibly crew of the ship that didn’t respond to the mayday to have been dealt with rather harshly in a pub once word was out.
and America would have you believe there were no strong women before their films tell me how these are not! they literally changed a country and saved lives regardless of the abuse they took to do it!! their legacy has saved many families from the pain they themselves suffered well done ladies! thank you for caring enough to change the world
This is one of my favourite videos that I’ve made so far. I love telling proper working class stories as they’re my people. I never forget my roots. The views and likes will take care of themselves. Shipwrecks are solid performers.
Despite being from Grimsby, I have a growing appreciation for Hull. Mostly due to their preservation of history. Just wish they would do something with the old fish dock rather than leaving it to rot. They could restore it and put the Arctic Corsair there as a permanent museum, for example! 😊
I fished from Grimsby 1970 and stuck it long enough to get a deckie's ticket. NOBODY just turned up to get aboard; all crews were picked up by taxi as that was the only way to get a full compliment as so many would still be drunk.
@DiD86 I live in Alabama and college football is gospel around here. Every November The University of Alabama plays Auvurn University which both schools are about 80-100 miles apart. Believe it or not you can use Roll Tide for a greeting to an Alabama fan and War Eagle to an Auburn fan. It also works as goodbye and f--k you.
The fate of these ships is eerily similar to that of the British built Blue Wave and Blue Mist side trawlers that were lost off Newfoundland in 1959 and 1966 respectively. Both of these ships had a nasty habit of keeling over on their beams end even in fairly calm conditions, very poorly designed ships.
The sharp suit part of the story, was something I saw in the building trade when I first left school in the 80's. Guys would get paid on the Friday, get a new suit (or chino's if they were a younger guy) and then drink themselves stupid over the weekend, turning up for work in their suit on the monday morning.
A statue of these brave and determined women for the CITY OF HULL is well overdue, their memory will live forever god bless them all. 🙏❤️🏴 Jan twenty four
I notice that these ships like most cutters has this elegant hull with the low waist line. The dragon ships had the same design, i guess it has a purpose since theres no reason to change what had worked since the vikings.
The term corporate greed is always unfounded unfortunately. At the head of corporations are people, powerful people. And for fishing, one of the biggest players, then and now, is the crown. Health and safety law is written on the palms of workers before the job, but with their deliberate blood afterwards. The safety improvements made were long known before hand. Rip.
Stern trawlers came after and are an improvement on side trawlers I believe. I'm pretty sure all big trawlers, bottom and mid water, today are stern trawlers
I wouldnt say that side trawlers were preferred over stern trawlers. Stern trawlers were alot easier to fish and efficient than side trawlers, side trawlers have to lay beam to the sea when picking their nets as well. The side trawlers are long gone, completely replaced by stern trawlers.
@@DiD86 The stern trawlers basically replaced the side trawlers by the 1970's. Stern trawlers could fish much faster with less crew. At the time (1960's) there were just many older side trawlers still working in the fleet, soon to be retired and replaced.
My Uncle went down on the Gaul Trawler that too set out from Hull, Jimmy Mclellan from North Shields was my Uncle Rumours where it was a spy ship and all hands had Cameras and was rammed by a Russian sub, not sure the real story just know all my Family are Fishermen. RIP Jimmy and all lost Souls ...
It would appear so. What saved him was his survival gear and the fact that at that time he was pretty much at the peak of his physical condition. He had the reserve strength to fight off the cold. I would have loved to have interviewed him for the video but my source close to him says that he would most likely refuse and I totally get that. Can’t be easy to relive such things. I’m just so glad that he’s still keeping well.
You gotta hand it to Ms. Bilocca, she's someone that you wouldn't want to mess with - the rozzers trying to pull her from the trawler look like they're shitting themselves. (The WPC seems to have a 'hey ho luv, y' canna go around scarin' the lads noo.' look on her face.
It's strange how the gutter press can at one point make these women hero's then slag them down and call one of them fat missing the point of the changes they were trying to make for the saftey of ALL fishermen. 10/10
@@DiD86 Without lecturing..if you’re publishing videos in English I’d suggest the majority of native English speakers either use, or at least understand, English measurements. I doubt the same is true of the continental system without some mental gymnastics.
I agree but then it’s only the US and Equitorial Guinea that haven’t switched over. I do prefer Imperial units in all honesty, but then the US went and changed a few of them for no reason. Like how we have short and long tons. And a British pint is 20 ounces, not 16.
@@DiD86Might I suggest editing both measurement systems on screen. That way we can use the one we prefer and you can speak the one you find fits your needs.
Bless you for making this one. I've lived in Fleetwood all my life. We were the biggest deep sea fishing port on the West coast, and the town lost trawlers with all hands; as with the East Coast ports.
We had a great maritime heritage; and a fine Railway before Blackpool, our younger neighbour. My dad was a Ship's Rigger preparing the trawlers' gear. Also, many Fleetwood boys went to sea 'Pleasuring' with their Dads, Uncles and older brothers, during Summer holidays; often to the Summer grounds. And many women made/repaired the fishing nets, or worked in firms associated with the processing or transport of fish. There were sometimes as many fish trains running at night, as passengers during the day.
And so the sea played a big part of our lives. As children, we watched the trawlers going out to sea, and in Winter, we wondered if we'd see all of them again.
Having to retire early from the Railway, I became a Poet/Author, and some of my work includes our maritime past. Below is one such piece.
THE PRICE OF FISH.
The price of fish, was the lives of men;
some went to sea, but ne'er came back again.
Many families supplied the crews;
of Fleetwood trawlers, and they made the news.
They left so early, on the morning tide;
as wives and mothers waved, then sat and cried.
"Where's Daddy", was the children's' call;
"He's off to sea for yer tea, that's all".
Their older brothers, just turned eleven;
would go each Summer, their idea of heaven.
They steamed up North, by the Hebrides;
young faces brushed, by the Westerly breeze.
The youngsters pleased, in the usual way;
as our trawler Jacinta, edges into Stornoway.
a welcome meets them, as they take their ease;
from familiar faces, locals, of the Hebrides.
And then time comes, as the North wind pounds;
they're off once more, to those Summer grounds.
Farewell Stornoway, those friendly times we'll miss;
farewell, as they see the light, for the Butt Of Lewis.
Three weeks the boys, would be away from home;
they dream of being men, and distant seas to roam.
But now they're back and safe, as Mothers always wish;
yet sometimes, Winters don't return them all.
Such, is the price of fish.
BY JACK D. HARRISON.
Beautiful prose, my friend! ❤️
@@DiD86 Verse, but you're still welcome. I have three books of Poems, one memoirs as a Signalman, and one novel published so far.
As a, former, UK (Scottish/inshore crab) fisherman myself (up until very recently, as of 2020) I can testify that the description of fishermen given here; "three-day millionaires" is very much accurate even now, minus the tailored suit. The last few months I worked at the fishing I used to bury myself in drink and quite often cannabis, at least on the increasingly rare times I could afford it now that fishing is slim pickings as far as wages go.
I'm also the survivor of a shipwreck that same afore mentioned year, Kingfisher K436, thankfully both us aboard survived thanks in no small part due to the solid build quality of our boat but also a great thanks to the boys of the Kirkwall lifeboat crew and the local coastguard shore team for coming to our assistance as well as the various other local fishing boats in the area which came to assist.
Wow! That’s one hell of an experience. I can’t imagine how terrifying it can be out there.
Another shipwreck survivor here...Ulysses PD76...took a huge lump of water 190 miles NE of Peterhead in the Norwegian sector...unbelievable luck there was a chopper in the air 5 minutes away and all seven of us lived to see another day. I was the youngest aboard at 19. Had a few close calls and seen thing I can never forget....Piper Alpha in flames is something scorched into my memory. Three day millionaires describes things perfectly. Rest in peace all souls lost at sea.
Piper Alpha was one hell of a scary disaster!
Certainly going to be covering that at some point in the future.
Thank you so much! I`m Icelandic, born in the Vestman Islands (`55). Worked several winter seasons (Jan-May) on fishing boats off the coast of Iceland. We have had our share of casualties at sea. This story reverberates with my own lived experience. All the best! Billi.
If I haven't said this you have such a great voice for narrating. Always a great treat to listen to your channel. Decent into darkness. You do a great job trying to show the truth in history. JDP Underhill 10/00/2023 great day to you and yours God bless
Exactly! I think I've watched it 2 or 3 times
This is a very down-to-earth narration as a man myself who lost dear close friends (fishermen) at sea I appreciate your video very much - thankyou, my closest lost friend Sean Cotter (64) out of Castletownbere a pioneer of the Porcupine Bank died when Kyle Mhorr capsized and he is so missed for many years later. And that is why I appreciate the down-to-earth narration - thank you so much. Bless all lost at sea it is heart breaking.
Thank you for reading all their names that their loss may not be forgotten. My family lost 5 members on cargo ships in WW2 each of them had nothing but praise for trawlermen. A hard life and little regard from those whose bellies they fed. Bless you all who roam the seas.
This was very well told, and I really appreciate you spending so much of the time talking about what these communities did to change things for the better. There will probably always be dangerous jobs, but it is so important to remember that it is very possible to make them safer.
As always, brilliant story and narration!!! Also, thanks for sharing the Luckiest Sailor song, as performed by the Spare Hands - those kids can really, really wail!!! Cheers!
The song at the end, along with the gentleman singing, excellent!.
You've done it again, sir. My thanks.
Hull lass born and bred. My friends Dad was on one of the lost trawlers from around that time. The *ARCTIC CORSAIR* , the last Hull sidewinder, is nearing a complete overhaul and will soon be moored in it's new dry dock on the River Hull. It will be open to visitors next year with a new visitor centre - something to please everybody.
I'm quite down mentally right now and when I saw the new video, it boosted my mental stability quite a bit. Your voice is so soothing and perfect for narrating. I'm happy to be a patreon supporter and happy for every video You release. This one is another gret piece of storytelling You've released and I just hoped it wouldn't end. You're doing a terrific job with your videos, keep it up (please). Greetings from germany.
I’m sorry to hear you’re feeling down. It WILL get better, all you have to do is hold on.
Thank you for your support.
Gives meaning to that saying the sea is a cruel mistress.
A most interesting video. I have seen the "Deadliest catch" series, and even
nowadays, I appreciate the danger of that profession. But THIS video is quite
different. For my life, I cannot imagine going out to sea with almost
no safety equipment. Those brave men.
You've become my favorite narrator.
Really on the bean with a working man's understanding of things.
I'll support you when ever I can.
Thanks D I D👍
Thank you!
It helps that I’m working class myself, I guess.
The next time you sit down to a nice seafood dinner, remember these brave lads!
This is a little off subject, but your video of the sinking of the SS Edmund Fitzgerald was excellent. I watched it twice.
As I sit eating my seafood dinner and watching this fascinating video, I am very appreciative of the people who make my meal possible.
I was quite touched by the coming together of the community to rally around those that lost a loved one and that a loss for one was a loss for all. Boy, that Lillian musta been quite the Gal! (I felt her imposing and indomitable spirit just by her image!) Chaos bless the "Headscarf Heroes". It's just sad that no matter the era, money will always get the "lifejacket" and a spot on the raft first. In a lotta ways, I wish maybe I lived in those _simpler_ times, not on the BOATS!!!, but in the community just for the people and the character of the towns. It is...bittersweet. Well done! I just hit the subscribe button. Thank you! \m/
Interesting video about this triple tragedy. I was at sea myself on the night it happened as R/O onboard the Fleetwood trawler ST Wyre Mariner fishing not far off Isafjord. The worst weather I had ever experienced. Luckily we managed to get into port in Isafjord but the ship did sustain damage and part of the fish room was flooded. Temporary repairs were made so that we could sail back to Fleetwood.
I can’t even begin to imagine how horrific it must’ve been that night.
Yes the weather was really extreme with very high winds which were above storm force 10 and severe icing conditions. It was really difficult to turn the ship into the wind. It took us around 3 hours to get into the safety of Isafjord as we were 18 miles off land at the time.
Those in charge will always cut as many corners as possible to save money and they are never properly held to account.🤬
Capitalism has sunk even more ships than loose lips
Thanks for another great video DiD! Blown away by that trck at the end... I'll be hitting up The Minerva next time I'm in Hull. Fantastic track. What an amazing acapella. Truly, thanks for the heads up!
Edit: Mally, if you happen to read this, I'll be hunting you down. Want to witness that one live!
This was so touching. Especially the reading of their names, and then the song. May those brave souls rest in peace.
No dirt being found, they called this great woman 'big', trying to embarass her. That was a very low move!
Being so low themselves, how could they punch any higher...?
Out of ideas for a decent political move? "You're fat!" ...the playground never dies 😅
Another excellent video and in my city too . Very well researched and presented in your wonderful voice 👌
Thanks!
Thank you very much. It is GREATLY appreciated
Almost immediately makes me think of this fatal crash in the German Bight about 12 miles off Heligoland three days ago! One vessel (the "Verity") sank to the bottom after the collision with a larger ship (the "Polesie"), with 4 men reported missing. How could this happen? Unlike the accident of 1968, ships now have transponders and other state-of-the-art equipment on board!
Thanks for another great vid. Glad something good came from such a tragedy, so often that is not the case.
Lil was savage and just what was needed ❤
I love feisty, formidable women (except for Maggie Thatcher of course!)
more like Haggie Snatcher lmao @@royfearn4345
I just about kept it together during the list of names.
"10 seconds to eternity" ... line from the song broke me though 😢.
Great video D.I.D
That's the line that got me, too! What a stark way to put it, but so scarily true!
Mally is a brilliant singer! He and I need to do a duet at some point!
My better half was drawn to enquire what I was watching when she heard the song at the end, as A cappella folk music is not my thing. However she comes from a family of old school folkies. On seeing the title of the video she immediately named the Kingston Peridot* as one of the trawlers lost and pointed me in the direction of another song about this tragedy, Three Ships by Mike Waterson, covered by Coope Boyes & Simpson on their Twenty-Four Seven album. Last track on the album is Mike Waterson performing it himself, apparently recorded over the phone.
*She never ceases to amaze me :-)
Yes, we ended up singing Three Ships at that same session where the recording took place.
Makes me excited for next Sunday’s session! 😁
@@DiD86 Excellent! We need to find a local folk club that's walkable, you can't beat live music, whatever style.
I’m sure there will be one near you. You’d be surprised what you can find with a quick google search.
It’s always despicable when the penny pinching businessmen neglect the safety of their workers to their fatal detriment, all for the want of profit.
profit profit makes me wanna vomit. theres a mercury comet
I suppose that they were paid the big bucks because of the danger. Would they have fore gone some of the big bucks to pay for their safety? After all, if it was safer, then the big bucks would be arguably less required! I’m playing devils advocate but....
When anyone goes on about cutting "red tape" they mean cutting regulations which cost them some money to implement
All I am suggesting is that how pleased would they be to have their salaries reduced by the profits going instead to enhance the vessel safety?That’s why you need the regulations to set the standards otherwise the crew will accept danger for enhanced money. If you read the excellent book “last man off” you will see how complacency can take hold. It’s very easy to blame the companies for penny pinching but ask the crews what they prioritise! I blame humans and happenstance 😂
As an Icelander I will say that is not all of it. The seas here are unforgiving and not even the largest of ships are safe. The ocean is unforgiving and some in Iceland believe that the sea needs something in return for what we take.
thank you for the video and the narration may all those lost rest in peace may the families feel the good energy and best wishes sent for us all . I bow my head dof my hat and salute all those brave men
I worked at sea for many years, been in a few hairy situations on prawn trawlers, here in Australia. But that's not work, that those guys do. That's insanity.
This is a very interesting video with narration second to none. New subscriber.
Being wet and cold at the same time is so,so hard endure
I hate that feeling on land, never mind at sea!
What a wonderful video, I remember all of these news items from the time. I have always had the most tremendous respect and admiration for all the fishermen in hull and particularly the women who campaigned for safer working conditions for the men.
A tragic tale of fishermen lost to the cruel promise of the sea, as the son of a fisherman and shrimper I can understand the feelings of loss of sorrow. You have done them a measure of justice ⚖️ 👏 I enjoyed the telling of the effort by the women who fought a valiant and noble cause to improve safety and working conditions on board the boats.
Kudos to you 👏 amigo y en paz descansen. 😢
Thankyou
Confirmed landlubber,hate the sea.All those brave souls, and many more.Thanks for remembering them, inthis video.
Superb and very emotional video ,RIP these very brave men ,who let's face it were just doing their day to day jobs.
A really well toned video. There's a book about the sinking of the Ross Cleveland called Doom in the Deep by Ottar Svensson who compiled accounts of the boats, and the Icelandic crews who tried to help save her. I first read it years ago and it's both gripping and heartbreaking in equal measure.
I’ll keep a look out for that one! 😇
Great film you have made.
indeed respect for the fisherman..my uncle had one..also in the north sea..when i was 16..35 years ago i went along for one week...my god ...i remember being so sea sick...hard work...like constant...but the money is good..i remember the oil cost for 1 week fishing...was 10.000 gulden...then that is now 5000 euro..thanks for the new vid..cheers mate
Thank you for reading your stories in your own voice. I can't stand the channels that use those almost real voices.
Yeah, I don’t like robo voices. You can’t get nuance and inflictions correct that way. People seem to like my voice, so it would be a crazy decision to go against that.
SUPERB presentation.
Thanks a lot
As an ex Australian Navy Veteran my heart goes out to those brave men and their ones. God Bless. R.I.P ❤
Hull born and bred and from a family off fisherman, my Auntie Yvonne campaigned alongside Lily . Such strong courageous ladies ❤
Your auntie was Yvonne Blenkinsop? That is AWESOME!
On the East Coast of the United States we call sidewinder Eastern Rigs. Aren’t any left that are trawling. Everyone switched to stern trawlers for the ease of hauling back and be allowed to use larger gear. There are some Eastern Rig scallopers left.
Most of my family are from hessle road and one of my great grandfathers was a skipper for Boyd line. They’re so many stories of injuries and loss of life
I can imagine. I read somewhere that around 6,000 sailors out of a Hull have been lost down the years.
Great video. Thanks, peace be unto you.
Some of those pictures. The faces so young! The sea doesn't show mercy.
Sadly no.
I remember going to the national fishing heritage centre ages ago. I can confirm the tour of the Ross Tiger was worth it and a real eye opener.
The guy that did the tour when we went was its skipper. But given that was back in the early 00's its most likely hes stopped doing it now.
It is a fantastic place.
I’be always been of the belief that we must listen to the old hands, no matter what their background.
One day, they will gone and so will their stories, so we MUST listen!
Well done the ladies of Hull. RESPECT
I was a fisherman out of Peterhead for years and know only too well about tradgedy at sea. I was only wee and not even at school when the Trident was lost with all hands...my dads mates. I was on a boat myself that sank in a storm and was lucky there was a chopper happened to be in the area...we all got to go home that time. Its a hard job...very unforgiving and not for the weak. R.I.P all who gave their life to the sea 😢
Fishermen are made of stern stuff. I couldn’t do it and I take my hat off to anyone that can/could.
They often say that the cook always survives!
Appalling tragedy. The book “last man off” details the loss of a fishing boat and the degree to which complacency can override safety features.
Just came across your channel 1st story I've listened to of yours and found it very enjoyable although a sad story.
My cousin ran a fishing boat out if Peterhead Aberdeenshire unfortunately he passed a few year's ago.
A very strong bread Fishermen and their wives especially back in those day's.
Having experienced working on a sidewinder out of Newlyn Cornwall never felt comfortable with this style of fishing very dangerous was so glad when the vessel i was berthed on became a stern trawler my heart goes out to the families and the brave souls on these vessels RIP
I remember my father telling me "It's bad luck to change a ships name." Everytime I hear about a ship swapping names right before they head down to the bottom.
Yes, I’d heard that as well.
I’ve heard it also applies to pubs, too.
@@DiD86 I would hate for a pub to sink.
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And yet there are many going under.
A docudrama film is needed here, similar to "perfect storm" but more.
Absolutely!
I’d expect the captain and possibly crew of the ship that didn’t respond to the mayday to have been dealt with rather harshly in a pub once word was out.
Could well have been.
thank you very good
and America would have you believe there were no strong women before their films
tell me how these are not!
they literally changed a country and saved lives
regardless of the abuse they took to do it!!
their legacy has saved many families from the pain they themselves suffered
well done ladies!
thank you for caring enough to change the world
Agreed! Never argue with a Yorkshire lass😅
A friend worked on a fish counter said customers could not grasp that in bad weather fish were limited.
I’d tell them they’re more than welcome to sign on aboard a trawler…
25,000 views only 1000 thumbs up? Come on people its a good video!
This is one of my favourite videos that I’ve made so far. I love telling proper working class stories as they’re my people. I never forget my roots.
The views and likes will take care of themselves. Shipwrecks are solid performers.
Hull my home town and proud now in withernsea as a granny
Despite being from Grimsby, I have a growing appreciation for Hull. Mostly due to their preservation of history. Just wish they would do something with the old fish dock rather than leaving it to rot. They could restore it and put the Arctic Corsair there as a permanent museum, for example! 😊
I fished from Grimsby 1970 and stuck it long enough to get a deckie's ticket. NOBODY just turned up to get aboard; all crews were picked up by taxi as that was the only way to get a full compliment as so many would still be drunk.
Did you say the Hell Yeah Brothers Limited? Seriously the best possible name for a company ever.
😂😂😂 it’s spelled Hellyer but I prefer what you said! 😂😂😂
@DiD86 That's what it sounded like. Here in the southern US that tends to be frequently yelled before doing anything foolish.
Yes, I’ve seen plenty of videos of such things! 😂😂 Got to admire the spirit.
@DiD86 I live in Alabama and college football is gospel around here. Every November The University of Alabama plays Auvurn University which both schools are about 80-100 miles apart. Believe it or not you can use Roll Tide for a greeting to an Alabama fan and War Eagle to an Auburn fan. It also works as goodbye and f--k you.
I really need to visit America at some point. Especially the South. Y’all seem like my kind of people.
The fate of these ships is eerily similar to that of the British built Blue Wave and Blue Mist side trawlers that were lost off Newfoundland in 1959 and 1966 respectively. Both of these ships had a nasty habit of keeling over on their beams end even in fairly calm conditions, very poorly designed ships.
the sea must have her due
The sharp suit part of the story, was something I saw in the building trade when I first left school in the 80's. Guys would get paid on the Friday, get a new suit (or chino's if they were a younger guy) and then drink themselves stupid over the weekend, turning up for work in their suit on the monday morning.
The people of Hull call it Ull
They do indeed! 😂
And ezzle rurd
@@janicereadymartcher7696I'll av a white wine and serda. Ull, where there's ner sner on the rerds.
Raymond Wilson was skipper of the Kingston Peridot, not a spare hand as stated on the list of crews..😊
A statue of these brave and determined women for the CITY OF HULL is well overdue, their memory will live forever god bless them all. 🙏❤️🏴 Jan twenty four
Very sad for those left behind with children. Especially the little girl who never met her Daddy 18:58 god bless
Moving story I lost my brother who was a deep sea fisherman aged 20 in the Arctic, he worked in Grimsby, and was lost aboard a Ross freezer
Do one on the Gaul....
Already have. Check out the video description.
I notice that these ships like most cutters has this elegant hull with the low waist line. The dragon ships had the same design, i guess it has a purpose since theres no reason to change what had worked since the vikings.
This was a very British video, but that local/national color helps make it good.
We need a President Lil😉 Ty for covering this incident. I’d never heard it before!
Vote for Lil!
The term corporate greed is always unfounded unfortunately. At the head of corporations are people, powerful people. And for fishing, one of the biggest players, then and now, is the crown.
Health and safety law is written on the palms of workers before the job, but with their deliberate blood afterwards. The safety improvements made were long known before hand. Rip.
Shameful they want their fish and chips but attacked those fighting corporate greed.
Good grief! These women are definitely heroins! Thank you, DiD. Your stories are so heartfelt!
Stern trawlers came after and are an improvement on side trawlers I believe.
I'm pretty sure all big trawlers, bottom and mid water, today are stern trawlers
So what the fuck was up with that one ship not passing along the distress call?
Indeed!
"As rare as rocking horse shit" is enough to earn a sub from me. 😂
😂😂😂
I wouldnt say that side trawlers were preferred over stern trawlers. Stern trawlers were alot easier to fish and efficient than side trawlers, side trawlers have to lay beam to the sea when picking their nets as well. The side trawlers are long gone, completely replaced by stern trawlers.
It’s more that it the sidewinders always seem to be the most numerous. Perhaps it was simply tradition?
@@DiD86 The stern trawlers basically replaced the side trawlers by the 1970's. Stern trawlers could fish much faster with less crew. At the time (1960's) there were just many older side trawlers still working in the fleet, soon to be retired and replaced.
Its interesting to me that they would buy a suit and wear it for the entire time they are in port. Cool tradition tho.
How are you such a good story teller. You should write a book.
I have one in the pipeline…😇
My Uncle went down on the Gaul Trawler that too set out from Hull, Jimmy Mclellan from North Shields was my Uncle Rumours where it was a spy ship and all hands had Cameras and was rammed by a Russian sub, not sure the real story just know all my Family are Fishermen. RIP Jimmy and all lost Souls ...
I'd rather be a janitor than to work in those extremely dangerous conditions.
Same. Doesn’t even bare thinking about!
Harry musta had a hellava set of kahonas to hop back on a boat after what he went thru.
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It would appear so.
What saved him was his survival gear and the fact that at that time he was pretty much at the peak of his physical condition. He had the reserve strength to fight off the cold.
I would have loved to have interviewed him for the video but my source close to him says that he would most likely refuse and I totally get that. Can’t be easy to relive such things.
I’m just so glad that he’s still keeping well.
I’m from Cas and I just love it when you go northern 😂
Viva Cas-Vegas! XD
@@DiD86 always DID ❤️thank you
@@DiD86Not forgetting Ponte-Carlo 🙂🙃❤️🙃🙂
Goes to show you should never change the name of a ship
You gotta hand it to Ms. Bilocca, she's someone that you wouldn't want to mess with - the rozzers trying to pull her from the trawler look like they're shitting themselves. (The WPC seems to have a 'hey ho luv, y' canna go around scarin' the lads noo.' look on her face.
It's strange how the gutter press can at one point make these women hero's then slag them down and call one of them fat missing the point of the changes they were trying to make for the saftey of ALL fishermen. 10/10
Can you give measurements in English units for us normal people? Many of us don’t understand the Napoleonic system. Thank you.
And if I’d have done that I’d have complaints from everyone else.
Damned if I do…
@@DiD86 Without lecturing..if you’re publishing videos in English I’d suggest the majority of native English speakers either use, or at least understand, English measurements. I doubt the same is true of the continental system without some mental gymnastics.
I agree but then it’s only the US and Equitorial Guinea that haven’t switched over.
I do prefer Imperial units in all honesty, but then the US went and changed a few of them for no reason. Like how we have short and long tons. And a British pint is 20 ounces, not 16.
@@DiD86Might I suggest editing both measurement systems on screen. That way we can use the one we prefer and you can speak the one you find fits your needs.
The price of fish
All me mams side were fishermen off Hessle road..
God bless
There was 3 Fishing boats that sank off the Irish coast The Donegal disaster/s
I’ll have a look into that one.