Love the Beyerdynamic M160. If you can't afford a Royer R-121, it's the next best thing. And in a way, more versatile, because it's a great drum overhead, and drum room mic too. The m201 is awesome too, great on snare, clean guitar cab, but also great on bass, even acoustic guitars in stereo. It's hard to pick a most flexible amp, maybe I'd go for Victory V40, because it has variable voicing, it's loud and clean with a lot of headroom, lots of power scaling options, different modes, and it's loud and clean. With the preamp, and great pedals, could do the most things. Plugins, love OTTO II II II & NDSP Fortin Nameless for the Heaviness. NDSP Nolly for flexibility, NDSP Morgan Suite for flexible cleans, Softube Marshall Suite too, their Metal & ENGL Savage suite are good too. Shout out to Bogren too, BDH & BassKnob sound great, & Rev C is very cool too.
@@KohleAudioKult Definitely if I had to pick one, it would be the 160. Or 2 of them AND a pair of Cascade Fathead 2, for the same price as one 121. And I don't like the Royer R-10 much at all. For the styles you are mostly working with, I can see why you'd gravitate way more to the 160. I do like the 121 for clean to vintage crunch though. But there's some cheaper alternatives, the Extinct Audio BM9, but also some very cheap and supposedly very good 121 clones coming out soon.
@@KohleAudioKult Yip, long-term would like to save up and get an AEA R-84, for mono drum room. But also a pair of Coles 4038, for drum overheads (& piano). With those, and a pair of Beyer M160, I'd have a full set of ribbon mics for full band tracking. But 160s are the most versatile, and the cheapest. Awesome mics, definitely the first ribbon mic to buy. And even even the second too, for a pair. I think I'd choose the Extinct BM9 over a 121, the bass is fuller and highs are smoother.
@@germanomosconi392 Oh totally.. and lets not get it twisted that it didn't really matter what amp Chuck was using those songs would have been bangers with any decent rig and the correct cab + mics.
I tried Softube Marshall suite and Engl Savage and can confirm that feelwise it is the best amp sim i ever used. It reacts nearly as a real amp to picking and loudness knob.
@@KohleAudioKult I have a MK1 - They were a bit more "loose" than the MK2. ANCHANG (singer/guitar) of Sex machineguns was a big MK1 fan. MK2 tone would be Anthem. The other channels can also do the Clean and Plexi thing real well also for the DAD Rock Tones.
right now i'm really digging the recto red channel sim from Tonocracy, got that thickness i sorely missed from 5150 style sims, and with the right cab IR settings, i can get a tone that is chonky yet clear.
There is! The Fryette box that I'm using has a few passive switches that affect the resonance and the presence. You still can't expect it to sound just like whatever cab / speaker combo you are using.
@@KohleAudioKult i know Fryette's box. I was thinking solution where it's more tweakable or even with cab and speaker models that you can load from the webs.
Check out the boutique ribbon mics from Extinct Audio, in Britain too, if you get a chance. Competion to Royer R121, but you can get a stereo pair of the BM9s, for the price of one Royer R121. Oh yes, also a fan of the Softube too. I go for vintage tones, and really like the feel of the JMP, and the Super Lead. I just got the Metal Suite too, for about 40 eur, and the dual rectifier is really good, but the 'HIGAIN', which I suspect is an ENGL (possibly based on the Savage). I actually really like Neural DSP for the clean, almost breaking up pedal platform amps, the Toneking, and the Morgan suite, being my favourites. This made me think of buying the Bogren Rev C plugin, and maybe the Brainworx Savage 120, because they're only 24.99 in the pluginalliance halloween sale.
12:40 The best cab I have ever used was an early 2000’s Mesa cab where I replaced all those god awful V30s for Greenbacks, and lined the rear baffle with neoprene dampening material. I’m still kicking myself for selling it. ML Sound has that Mega Green IR pack that comes the closest to the sound of this cab, but it’s just not the same. Whomever bought my cab used from Guitar Center… you are a lucky little shit.
All a matter of taste I guess. I’m not a fan of the honkiness, the sizzle and the rather wooly low end of any Greenback for metal. At least if we’re talking about recording.
@@KohleAudioKult This is how I’ve always described V30s. Honky/quacky midrange for sure, messy bottom end that I always high pass filter out anyway, sizzly top end I have to roll off. It really depends on the cab they’re used in though, you can put them in 5 different cabs and they’ll all sound way different. For Mesa cabs, I prefer greenbacks. It’s like a tighter Marshall TV cab.
For me the thing with load box/dummy load is just to tame the volume to be handled in homestudio situtation but you can still "wake up" the amp and then you just need to push the cab to also wake up to the point in which it sounds good. Bedroom isn't the best place to do this shit, but it's still possible imo. :D
Bass IRs too? Hell yeah. If you're making your own songs you need both these days. I'm a guitarist but I have to play bass on my own songs. I think bass tone might be even more important than guitar. With a great bass sound I can make some real crappy guitar tones sound good. Doesn't work the other way around.
Most reactive loads model a regular sized 4x12 for their impedance curve. The oversized construction of the Mesa affects the impedance curve and shifts that low end resonance peak down to a lower frequency. The Suhr loads probably the closest ones available. All the Two Notes stuff I have seen isn't that good in that regard and only models a broad V-shaped curve but not a true impedance curve of a loudspeaker. The VH-4 was released in 92 but nobody really cared about their amp until James Hetfield started to use it in the early 2000s. Peter Stapfer once said that it took over 10 years to sell more than 100 amps.
My Fryette load box actually has different passive switches so you’ve got some choices. It’s just never the same thing like the real deal. If that’s actually a problem it’s another question. Yeah, I don’t remember hearing anything about Diezel until the early 2000s. Jens was factually right though.
@@KohleAudioKult Some of the curves on that Fryette are quite off compared to a regular 4x12 cab. The Deep setting shifts the low end resonance up pretty high into the 200Hz region which I doubt will sound that great. Sure depends on what you're trying to achieve. If you goal is to use such an load box as an silent alternative to a real cab you would want it to match impedance wise as best as possible. Also highly dependend on what amp you're using it with, because some of them react much more to the changing impedance of a speaker than other ones do.
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Love the Beyerdynamic M160. If you can't afford a Royer R-121, it's the next best thing. And in a way, more versatile, because it's a great drum overhead, and drum room mic too. The m201 is awesome too, great on snare, clean guitar cab, but also great on bass, even acoustic guitars in stereo. It's hard to pick a most flexible amp, maybe I'd go for Victory V40, because it has variable voicing, it's loud and clean with a lot of headroom, lots of power scaling options, different modes, and it's loud and clean. With the preamp, and great pedals, could do the most things. Plugins, love OTTO II II II & NDSP Fortin Nameless for the Heaviness. NDSP Nolly for flexibility, NDSP Morgan Suite for flexible cleans, Softube Marshall Suite too, their Metal & ENGL Savage suite are good too. Shout out to Bogren too, BDH & BassKnob sound great, & Rev C is very cool too.
@@compucorder64 I'll take a 160 over a 121 for about every task I can think of.
@@KohleAudioKult Definitely if I had to pick one, it would be the 160. Or 2 of them AND a pair of Cascade Fathead 2, for the same price as one 121. And I don't like the Royer R-10 much at all. For the styles you are mostly working with, I can see why you'd gravitate way more to the 160. I do like the 121 for clean to vintage crunch though. But there's some cheaper alternatives, the Extinct Audio BM9, but also some very cheap and supposedly very good 121 clones coming out soon.
Not a big Royer fan here.
I love the AEA stuff and the M160 because it’s so different from any other ribbon.
@@KohleAudioKult Yip, long-term would like to save up and get an AEA R-84, for mono drum room. But also a pair of Coles 4038, for drum overheads (& piano). With those, and a pair of Beyer M160, I'd have a full set of ribbon mics for full band tracking. But 160s are the most versatile, and the cheapest. Awesome mics, definitely the first ribbon mic to buy. And even even the second too, for a pair. I think I'd choose the Extinct BM9 over a 121, the bass is fuller and highs are smoother.
I like how there's bashing of the 90s experimental Marshall phase while wearing a Death shirt... lol
Especially because they really got it right with the Valvestate... but for the most part they are correct.
@@germanomosconi392 Oh totally.. and lets not get it twisted that it didn't really matter what amp Chuck was using those songs would have been bangers with any decent rig and the correct cab + mics.
These interviews are great. Would love to see a chat with Erik Rutan regarding all things Death Metal. 🤘
Thanks! I’m ready.
Yessss. Rutan is the man and has crazy amounts of knowledge
Seen the Title... Smashed that like button. ❤ Now let me enjoy these 27 min.
I just know this is going to be good
Super schönes, lustiges und informatives Video! Ihr beiden harmoniert super vor der Kamera 😁🫶🏻❤️
Danke dir. Hat auch uns große Freude gemacht!
Bogren Digital amp sims are my go to for capturing ideas and jamming.
My favorite by you guys is the Bogren Digital 6606+ and the BDH III AMP KNOB!!!
Also love the rest of them!
Nice video too! 👊🏻
Big Mercuriall fan, the stealth and the Bogner Ecstacy are fantastic.
always a joy to listen to you guys
Bought the IR pack to have more options but haven't really got in to them to experience them (if that makes sense). This vid has me inspired to do so.
Please do so! There are so many great IRs in there!
How dare you go to Sweden and not talk to Ola hahaha great video man love your channel!!!
I tried Softube Marshall suite and Engl Savage and can confirm that feelwise it is the best amp sim i ever used. It reacts nearly as a real amp to picking and loudness knob.
I'm gonna have those two in a video soon!
@@KohleAudioKult Still waiting...
😮💨😆
Jens always wears the best shirts! Death is still my favorite band to this day!
Awesome video!
Hello from Greece. I love Peavey and Diezel amps.
My Island amp would be a Hughes Kettner Triamp. Some of the tones with them from Japanese bands were very good.
Which Triamp do you have?
@@KohleAudioKult I have a MK1 - They were a bit more "loose" than the MK2. ANCHANG (singer/guitar) of Sex machineguns was a big MK1 fan. MK2 tone would be Anthem. The other channels can also do the Clean and Plexi thing real well also for the DAD Rock Tones.
Symbolic!! 🤘🏻
Nerding out with the nerds! 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Welcome!
right now i'm really digging the recto red channel sim from Tonocracy, got that thickness i sorely missed from 5150 style sims, and with the right cab IR settings, i can get a tone that is chonky yet clear.
We need load box with tweakable impedance curve.
There is! The Fryette box that I'm using has a few passive switches that affect the resonance and the presence.
You still can't expect it to sound just like whatever cab / speaker combo you are using.
@@KohleAudioKult i know Fryette's box. I was thinking solution where it's more tweakable or even with cab and speaker models that you can load from the webs.
2:16 @Kristian: Sorry for nerding out but yours is a RevF. I own Serial #740 and its an early RevF from 92.
That’s correct! I just looked it up again.
So did I even I added the subtitle. Don’t know how I got that wrong. Thanks for the help!
Great one. I enjoy me some gear. 90s kid here, I don't own a ton so living through these videos.
It would be awesome to see a convo with Ross Robinson. Would be interesting i think.
Die MF400 ist wirklich super 💪🏼
Schade, das die nicht mehr hergestellt werden 😢
Werde mir Verstärkertechnisch bald den Amp1 Iridium zulegen.🤘🏼😎💪🏼
Check out the boutique ribbon mics from Extinct Audio, in Britain too, if you get a chance. Competion to Royer R121, but you can get a stereo pair of the BM9s, for the price of one Royer R121. Oh yes, also a fan of the Softube too. I go for vintage tones, and really like the feel of the JMP, and the Super Lead. I just got the Metal Suite too, for about 40 eur, and the dual rectifier is really good, but the 'HIGAIN', which I suspect is an ENGL (possibly based on the Savage). I actually really like Neural DSP for the clean, almost breaking up pedal platform amps, the Toneking, and the Morgan suite, being my favourites. This made me think of buying the Bogren Rev C plugin, and maybe the Brainworx Savage 120, because they're only 24.99 in the pluginalliance halloween sale.
Vote for a Fryette Deliverance ii cab review/deep dive! I just ordered 2 and about to replace the 70g with dv77s.
I’m even gonna do a front vs rear loaded Fryette cab video soon. The cabs have already arrived. 💪
@@KohleAudioKult god damn I love you 🫶
I also have a list of amps I would love to see as amp knob plugins lol.
Lol i could tell that kohle seemed a tad uptight😂 i would too around that legend.
12:40 The best cab I have ever used was an early 2000’s Mesa cab where I replaced all those god awful V30s for Greenbacks, and lined the rear baffle with neoprene dampening material. I’m still kicking myself for selling it. ML Sound has that Mega Green IR pack that comes the closest to the sound of this cab, but it’s just not the same. Whomever bought my cab used from Guitar Center… you are a lucky little shit.
All a matter of taste I guess.
I’m not a fan of the honkiness, the sizzle and the rather wooly low end of any Greenback for metal. At least if we’re talking about recording.
@@KohleAudioKult This is how I’ve always described V30s. Honky/quacky midrange for sure, messy bottom end that I always high pass filter out anyway, sizzly top end I have to roll off. It really depends on the cab they’re used in though, you can put them in 5 different cabs and they’ll all sound way different. For Mesa cabs, I prefer greenbacks. It’s like a tighter Marshall TV cab.
For me the thing with load box/dummy load is just to tame the volume to be handled in homestudio situtation but you can still "wake up" the amp and then you just need to push the cab to also wake up to the point in which it sounds good. Bedroom isn't the best place to do this shit, but it's still possible imo. :D
Straight 🔥
Thanks Guys!
Bro the father of death metal, Death 💀❤️🤘🎸🧬
17:00 100% right. NOTHING beats the real thing. Load boxes are cool and useful, but for a studio release you need a REAL cab.
Bass IRs too? Hell yeah. If you're making your own songs you need both these days. I'm a guitarist but I have to play bass on my own songs. I think bass tone might be even more important than guitar. With a great bass sound I can make some real crappy guitar tones sound good. Doesn't work the other way around.
For me it’s Diezel all the way.
Herbert and VHX.
Norlands Guld!? Mariestad? 😆
Mariestad for me!
Kohle, you have a Rev F not a D.
Yeah. I just looked it up again.
Don’t know why I got that wrong. Thanks!
i always thought these two are the same person askjhaskjds
One of us is AI in the video 😎
Most reactive loads model a regular sized 4x12 for their impedance curve. The oversized construction of the Mesa affects the impedance curve and shifts that low end resonance peak down to a lower frequency. The Suhr loads probably the closest ones available. All the Two Notes stuff I have seen isn't that good in that regard and only models a broad V-shaped curve but not a true impedance curve of a loudspeaker.
The VH-4 was released in 92 but nobody really cared about their amp until James Hetfield started to use it in the early 2000s. Peter Stapfer once said that it took over 10 years to sell more than 100 amps.
My Fryette load box actually has different passive switches so you’ve got some choices.
It’s just never the same thing like the real deal. If that’s actually a problem it’s another question.
Yeah, I don’t remember hearing anything about Diezel until the early 2000s. Jens was factually right though.
@@KohleAudioKult Some of the curves on that Fryette are quite off compared to a regular 4x12 cab. The Deep setting shifts the low end resonance up pretty high into the 200Hz region which I doubt will sound that great. Sure depends on what you're trying to achieve. If you goal is to use such an load box as an silent alternative to a real cab you would want it to match impedance wise as best as possible. Also highly dependend on what amp you're using it with, because some of them react much more to the changing impedance of a speaker than other ones do.
Is it just me or do these guys secretly not get along?
My wife is leaving me
Because Jens and me are way too handsome? ;)