How To Mix A Song From Scratch - Mix Buss Processing - RecordingRevolution.com
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Part 2 of 6 - When mixing your song, before you put a single plugin or effect on your individual tracks - start by inserting a few on your mix buss or master fader.
The reason is simple: you'll get a better mix in less time, less effort, and with fewer plugins (which saves computer power).
In today's video we're going to enhance our balanced mix with some simple EQ and compression on the master fader. The difference is both subtle and powerful at the same time. 
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WoNt BURY IiIiIT.... oOOOeeEOUUh
I just came back from a session at the mixer. After seeing the "static" mix video and this one. I popped one of my projects back to "clean" and did just that what was seen in the videos. Thank you very much Graham!. It cleaned out so much "mess" and instantly catapulted the songs to "listen"-worthy .. mixwise. I love these videos. Keep them Coming Graham!
I'm literally doing this now, following along with the videos. Mix has already gone from completely muddy and mushy and boring, just got to the applying master eq, did the same thing, swept for resonsnance, dipped them a bit, lifted the highs, instantly, it's starting to come together. I've got no fx on any track yet, unbelieveable!
What i love about him is his simplicity. Amazing! thanks for helping us Graham.
I didn’t know I needed this series but I am grateful that you are a fantastic human being and made it accessible!
I am entirely new to mixing correctly, or doing it with any workflow at all. I must say this series may be the most valuable information I've encountered.
I am working on a large recording project for my job, and being totally new, these videos may give the final product a chance of being listenable.
This the best series of helping mix and master songs u can hear the difference as u us the plug ins once you know how to use the plugin correctly
You have no idea how greatful I am towards you for making these videos they really help thank you!
That download totally helped me out and explained things I totally didn't realize or even know!! So glad I came across this channel! :) Thanks Graham!!
Barely able to hear the the individual plugs, but together..... holy moly! Thanks Graham.
Wow. Huge difference when you bypass the eq! It can breathe!
hey Graham... thanks with the videos. They do help me on my mix and I just can't wait for other videos.
Glad I found your channel🤗 Love the detail!!!
Best channel for mixing ive found! Thank you!
Thank you Iv been waiting for this 😊
Wow I never realized the subtle pop I was missing, amazing
When he's turning the EQ and comp on and off and youre just pretending like you hear anything ;'))))
trevortjes you should watch it using headphones monitors to hear the difference. Works for me
100%... which is why i suck at mixing. All these subtle "moves" people talk about in videos... i don't hear shit. There was a time i almost went to become a sound engineer... i dodged that bullet. I would have been horrible.
@@AdamKobyshev also on headphones, no difference at all.
@@AnymMusic I use headphones and I can notice the differences.
@@AnymMusic just takes practice
Super informative. Thank you for the videos especially this one.
Cool song! I love this song!...Thanks a lot for the lesson!
Awesome been waiting!
Don't even listen to this type of music but I find myself wanting the whole song 🤔🤔🤔🤔
The Music Promoter me too
It’s on Apple Music
It's called "Bury It" by Graham himself
Binge watching every video great series very helpful and free tips #subscribed
Hey Graham, awesome video, really helped me out with mixing my song, learned a lot of stuff. Btw your voice on mic sounds bit like Mr. Jefferson from the game Life is Strange.
would LOVE to see i mix some rap vocals or hip hop music in general sir but ur videos have been very helpful thank you
I Love Grams' teachings
This series gave you a subscriber here, thanks!
great way to start to mix!
That is some great content
I have done mixing both ways and I like a subtle limiter in the master bus idk about the eq because I eq throughout the mix the main thing I learned is to make sure your master bus level is around 4-5 dbs below the 0 to leave head room for mastering compression and eq
Josh Quiroz thank you for the info. I will look into it.
Ooooo digging this song a lot :)
Gold
Light it up and let it burnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!
thanks for the video!!
Thank you so much 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I like to use reference tracks during this phase as well, especially for the EQ.
subscribed very useful Video... thank you...
Great videos Graham. I learn something every time I review one of your videos. I have a question: given that the mix bus is a stereo channel, do you use a stereo e.q. and compressor to keep the stereo mix separation you've created? I can't see if the plugin you chose is a stereo or mono plugin.
Thank you!
THANKS A LOT!!!!
Thank you sir
This is a great series. I realize, I never knew what the fuck I was doing with the compressor. I would always turn the master volume down, and turn the gain way up. By the way, this song is great!
Thanks
If youre inserting plug-ins and using "solo" to adjust them, wouldnt it "miss" out on the ep and comp you inserted on the master fader ?
i mean adjust them but then they would sound different once its not solo'ed right?
ps. thanks for all the vids... just finished the webinar and will sign up for the radio ready system
May you put out an eq chain for the cuts and boost you just made please?
Hi, I'm watching all these videos, they're great! "EQ & Compression on the master fader"....isn't that just "mastering" the song even before we get started? I'm confised, not sure I get the point of this part.... :(
can you please tell me the keyboard shortcut to bypass all plugins on a track that you were using? Thanks
Great videos, Graham, I find your mixing serious really clear and informative. Just one question though...if you're putting EQ and compression on the master fader, surely that's mastering...? Or at least blurring the distinction between mastering and mixing?
I wouldn't say it's mastering, because you're still in the mixing stage. The mastering mindset is a whole different game
Self taught at mixing, still very new and trying to learn as much as I can. Isn't this what should be done after the fact in mastering. The EQ I sort of understand the reasoning behind although I work the opposite way and finish on my master fader, but the compression seems to me like something for mastering. I know he has said in the past you want to do everything you can in each stage of recording to make the next easier, but I've also heard him say he usually doesn't do anything besides maybe use a limiter for headroom. just making an observation. Like I said very new to mixing, only a couple years under my belt and self taught. Just trying to gather up all the knowledge I can. Thanks for the video though, definitely gonna try it
It's referred to as "Top-Down" mixing. From my understanding, most engineers apply this method to varying degrees before then diving into mixing the individual tracks
Its called masterixing
Nothing wrong with that. I appreciate people who just speak their mind and heart. I am trying to learn all I can as well yet without even a means to record- except on my phone. Keep sharing and learning-
@@AFloodofSolaceJohnWhigham you should check out bandlab - web based DAW, phone friendly
4 years later, how's it going? I'm trying to mix more to save money..
Hey Graham, are you mixing with your headphones or your KRKs (or both)? I found that I have a harder time listening for subtleties on my KRKs. Do you have the same problem?
If you have a hard time just take your mix and play it on a car stereo or in the house somewhere. You'll find that a break in mixing and a listen elsewhere helps your ears to kinda recalibrate themselves and you'll be good again.
Hey, i have a question please and hope to get an answer so in recording your vocals did you somehow process them whith some vocal effects or slight vocal compression because in the mix they sound so good and improved ??
Also don't think they're raw vocals coming from the input mic signal.......so what is that exactly been put on them tnx for the feedback 🌹💛
Hello, I was always under the impression that processing any inserts on the master fader would be treated as "post fader" processing. I was taught there should be a "Mix Bus" aux right before the master fader to really see what you're effecting. Most inserts that I've seen placed on the master fader are VU meters or spectrum analyzers. What's your take on this?
Weird but I heard an increase in the lows, maybe that mid cut lead to that? Anyone think there's more low when he compares/bypasses the EQ?
Is there a video like this but more about consistency between songs? Working on an album and my best thought is to just have every song in one project once I've mixed everything and adjust the volume accordingly, then exporting each song after I'm happy with the volume. Is there a better way?
digging the song
Graham, I see some people, they make another track called Stereo Bus separately from the master bus. What is the difference between them? What happens with the mix in that case? Thank you.
Would there not be an advantage to compress first then apply the EQ or less important on main bus since it’s so subtle?
Hi I am wondering, with reference to other steps to this process, is there a group set up for this. I can't seem to find it, if there is. The titling makes it hard to determine what videos are in the sequence.
So what's the difference between the master bus and then actually mastering the finished stereo track?
Wouldn't it be advisable to process individual instruments (clean-up EQ, compression) before approaching the mix from the top down? That way you get a sense of the character and quality of recording for each instrument?
Well, I think what he's getting at here is that he, very subtly, gave the mix a light spritz. He cut out some mud ACCUMULATED by all the instruments, cut out some boxy low mids, and added a little brightness to make the entire mix shine. The edits were small and juuusssttt added a little clarity before going in deep and affecting each individual track. Also, he just tamed the imbalance in the overall dynamic range to make everything more evenly balanced volume-wise, and it's not hopping around from loud to quiet on the master bus. Like clipping at some parts, too low at others, now the peaks of the overall accumulation of instruments are reduced, and the quieter parts are boosted up to give it a nice balance and everything has clarity. Then you can dive deep into the tracks themselves and continue to process, polish and add effects to an already nice sounding mix! Great concept!
my stock EQ on Logic doesn't have the input and output level indicators or control. can you recommend a free one that does?
Good day mr Graham.. can this apply to a 2 track beat also?
Hi, congratulations for your channel. I'm into recording/mixing as a hobby, I record my own songs or do some covers to practice. I have one (big?) issue. I double track guitars, 2 left and 2 right, and when there's only right guitars going I can hear that right guitar with more less volum on left side. In an imager can see that the sound goes on right side and in the center. In pro mixes doesn't happens. Don't know how to deal with this and how to fix it.... any tip?? Thanks :D
Maybe a routing issue ? Your guitar may not be as hard panned as you think ? Maybe a plugin is messing with your panning ? Or your interface... Or maybe your headphones...
Try soloing the tracks and removing effects to find the culprit, maybe simplify your routing. Hard panned should only be heard on its side, not bleed to the other
In terms of a top-down approach, i can definitely understand only making primarily small adjustments given they affect the entire mix as a whole. But why not make more drastic mixing moves if it works? I actually feel like you couldve gone a bit farther with the processing and it would’ve sounded great. of course it’s a matter of perspective and each mix is different. But is there anything wrong with being more drastic on the mixbus in some cases?
If You had a sub mix would you just do all of your processing on there?
Hey, you gotta master this after you've mixed it in another 1-6 series (uses waves or izotope for that maybe) then release it on Distrokid to get it out there! 🙂👍🏼
thanks a lot Graham for making these videos, I've been following you for quite some time and have benefitted so much from everything you've "taught" me :-) . I've got a question about this particular technique (which you also showed in an earlier video): would I still affect the master bus if I had to prepare stems for a mastering engineer down the road? I mean, if I knew I would need to render stems (such as drums, bass, keyboards, etc) for the engineer to do some additional remixing/mastering, wouldn't insterting effects on the master bus give me slightly changed stems when I render? These are effects which "affect" the whole mix, but shouldn't be apllied to particular tracks; or am I seeing this in the wrong light?
Fernando if you do Graham's REmixing Course you won't need a mixing engineer :-) Learnt so much from him and so pleased with my first mix post course. Worth every $ IMHO
Did you mean a "mastering" engineer, Bob?
Fernando if you do Grahams mixing course you will have the confidence to mix yourself. Then you could either send it to a mastering engineer or do Ian Shepherds mastering course and do it yourself :-)
I feel this strategy is good if it isn’t putting the vocals to a 2 track, I feel mixing vocals with a 2tack it’s a different approach love the video tho,
How do i do if i want to only use eq in 3 trucks? So i don't have to do it in all the 3 idividually
this technique honestly complicated everything for me. i'll just stick to bottom up cause when i use this my mixes pump and i don't get it
sO COOL
Hey Graham, why not route it to a stereo aux? I've been told that having a mix buss on a master fader isn't as good due to the way Pro Tools routes audio signal.
Eron Constante right!! And in a couple of videos he explained how he "always" used an aux track for mix buss processing! I definitely do!
+recordingrevolution Hey Graham, @3:57 I've seen people do a high boost and sweep for frequencies to identify where to cut, but I'm not sure exactly what I should be listening for that should say to me "oh THAT, I hear that, which means I should cut HERE...? Am I looking for something to sound of overcrowded or something else?
Thanks in advance. Really helpful series already!
I'd love to hear the answer for this as well... what are we exactly looking for?
+David Elston you're listening out for the harsh frequencies
Do you then remove the master buss plugins or keep them after you have the whole mix done?
You would want to keep them. You are mixing through them from the beginning and now they are a part of you mix. Hope this helps!
What about the knee setting?
By the way this song is very daughtry/Alice in chains. Love it!
i wOnT pUt OuT the fiReaaaH tOnIght yEeEeEeEeAAAh
Did you notice the flat fifth on the guitar when you stop (minute 10:ish
when do we need to use mix buss processing before all tracks volume balance or after volume balancing of all tracks?
ruclips.net/video/6AyZ0oo8RVA/видео.html
u are a life saver lmfao. thank u!
why does "everybody" say not to put effects on the master ?
3:43 and he starts doing wizardry
I don't know if it's me, my work computer, the headphones, or what, but I cannot hear any difference at all from those plugins...
Any help, please?
Make sure you are watching youtube in HD so the audio is in good shape. I listen with Audio Technica ATH-M50x headphones and the differences are clear.
I'm using a regular model of headphones (not the cheapest, but good enough to listen to music), and the computer has a standard sound card. I listened to it many times but I hear no difference.
Thanks Edward. I'm listening through ATH-M50x as well, but could not hear the difference. I gave it a few more listens since you noticed a difference with the same headphones. I slowly began to notice a subtle difference, though I may just be fooling myself. The first thing I could pinpoint were the drums/cymbals sounding more clear. Beyond that, I didn't notice much that I could put my finger on. Perhaps I need more time to train my ears.
@@edwardmorra6240 Video definition has nothing to do with audio quality
@@RussTi That's not true Tim. Depending on the resolution, RUclips compresses audio is at different bit rates. While a 1080p video has audio running at 192 kbps, 240p runs audio at 64 kbps, which is super low. Here's an article about it www.h3xed.com/web-and-internet/youtube-audio-quality-bitrate-240p-360p-480p-720p-1080p
Am I the only one who doesn't hear any difference whatsoever between the raw audio and the compressed/EQed output?
Well, yeah, I dont know if I hear a difference. Maybe, but I cant even articulate the difference, that I MIGHT hear. Subtle is as term still too much for the difference I may seem to notice. Maybe I am nearly deaf? But still I love music, at last! :)
It could be down to your speaker/headphone setup. Some changes are subtle and won't be noticeable in subpar audio equipment.
Or you dont have a musical ear
Can tell the difference on a half decent transparent set of headphones.
I couldn't hear it in headphones, while monitors show BIIIG difference
Hey, I'm trying this kind of stuff out but realllly struggle to hear the subtle differences when I apply these techniques on my tracks. Any tips?
At least for me, it helps to listen specifically for the guitar in the context of the whole mix when you're talking about EQ (listen for the "sparkle" of the treble) as well as the attack of the snare. For the compressor, I think its easier to hear a difference when you isolate the attack of both the kick and the snare.
What happened to the Sub-Mix??
Is this song released?
i wanna know this band, ha. they are quite catchy
Everything you hear was recorded by Graham :=)
Apart from drum loops.
This guy's gonna "light it up and let it burn."
EDGY.
Melodically, that was my favourite part of the song
@@boeyyikming harmonically, that was my favorite part of the song.
Hey Graham, shouldn't we leave the master alone until the mastering process?
Thats what i think....I really don't think i wil be using this technique in my mix
Maybe i will use the master eq to cut below 30hz but thats about it
My finished mixes don't sound as good as your static mix.
Does anyone know if he provides raw tracks of his recordings for students?
Yep if you sign up for the duelling mixes class
5:00 eq boost
cannot recieve the radio guide
Not that subtle if you ask me ! Sounds a little bright to me with the EQ on.
i believe the MOVES he made were subtle.... nothing to drastic but the positive final result are DEF there..
Am I seriously the only one here who doesn't feel the difference, as a musician and not a producer or anything i guess it might be lack of practice just like it happens with pitch, but it's literally the exact same thing to me, do you think someone listenning to this on the radio could hear the difference between the song with the eq and without it? I mean, there's not even a reference there
Top down mixing is like trickle down economics
Who is scratch and why would I wanna mix his song?
What DAW is shown in these videos?
protools
what software are you mixing on??
watch this series from the beginning. He goes over everything he is using for this series.
Pro Tools
The free version of Pro Tools
Why they always say don't use anything on the master while mixing🤥
What happened to monitoring in mono? LOL!
Mono is usually used for EQing
Guys, I agree with you all. I was just funnin' at Graham; but perhaps he will go mono in the next video.
In the blog he says he first does the static mix process and then turns to mono to do the EQ