350 Legend Bullet Drop - Demonstrated and Explained
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350 Legend Bullet Drop - Demonstrated and Explained
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Looking forward to the .45-70 drop tests, should prove educational.
Opening weekend now. Took 1 at 112 yds and another at 70 yds. Both dropped in their tracks.. I love the caliber as I’m an old man and not into recoil
Man I can't even find a deer to shoot
It's more about where you shoot em' than what you shoot em' with, isn't it.
To be lethal and humane with the ballistics, the 350 legend shouldn’t be shot past 230-240 at deer
Look and see what game has been taken with the .357 bulldog air gun , unmodified. Out of the box it makes around 176fpe max. Of course your shots have to be taken at reasonable distances, but one on the ground , is one on the ground with a good shot placement.
I'd say realistically, up to 125-150 yards to stay in the desired energy window.
@@Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill I agree depends on the specific load, I’m using the 160 grain federal fusion and minimum terminal velocity on it is 1600 FPS which will get me to about 240, but that’s the best factory loading for 350 legend currently in BC
Have you ever done this with a 30-30? That would be interesting to we “Old” asses. That’s all I used hunting in Florida my whole life. Thanks bro...."
@@jasonbroom7147 pointed loads
Actually the old .30 drops less. My Marlin 336 with 20” barrel with 170 gr sierra pro hunters and 35.5 gr of Leverevolution powder will do 2270 fps with 100 zero only 7.5” drop at 200 yards. The 160 gr Hornady FTX only drops about 5” - 6” at 200 and still packs around 1300 FPE at 200
It's a great short range hunting cartridge. Outstanding out to 100 yards. Pretty good out to 150 yards. It goes down hill fast after that. Most hunters in the eastern half of the US will normally shoot less than 150 yards though. I would compare the 350 Legend to a 30-30. Many deer have been killed with a 30-30. If you need to shoot past 150 yards, you should probably go with a cartridge that has more powder capacity. This is a fun little carbine type cartridge with low recoil. It'll work in a single shot, bolt action, or AR-15.
I love the legend I would say 75% of my shots are within 100yrds and I can use it for primitive instead of a muzzleloader and for rifle so I only need 1 gun for the whole year
Love me some 350 man wife and kids took 4 deer with it last yr, curious what you see for drop
Love the regularity of the nightly premiers as I know exactly what time to be here or if I need to catch it later if I can't be here. Thanks WTW for all the videos and work that you put into the channel.
I'd really love to see one of these drop tests on a 9mm carbine.
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I found factory loads to be really anemic for the 350 legend I have a 170 GRN Hornady interlock with 27 GRN of Lil Gun shooting at 2320 FPS average. 300 FPS faster than the 180 GRN load. Over 2000 ft-lbs of energy. It still drops 8 inches at 200 yards. Thank you for the bullet drop videos!
8 inches at 200 is what, 2-4 clicks on the scope. How is that even a thing.
That's neat how you can see the bullet flying in on the target.
Thanks for this. I use that exact round out of my Winchester XPR
good video bud, I've missed so many live premiers I do watch all though. GREAT VIDEO as ALWAYS!!!!
Was pretty cool seeing the 350 actually punch the target at 200 yards (where I saw it) in 1 frame you have the bullet in 1 frame and a hole the next.
Thanks for this video. Great information. I just bought a Savage350 and shot a box of bullets through it today. Have it zeroed at 100. 150 yds would be the longest shot I would take. I hunt on my farm in S Iowa. I am switching from a 45/70 - given age and arthritic shoulder I wanted a gun with less recoil. . This 350 is fun to shoot and the flinch I had developed from the 45/70 is gone.
It’s not a long range round, but it drops hogs like a rock at 150 yards. A friend shooting a 5.56 was hitting them, but they would run quite a ways. Every time I pulled the trigger, a hog got knocked down, and didn’t make it more than 10 yards if they even got up.
Same reason I got a 350. 150 to 175 yards range. I would use a 6.8 spec II or 6.5 Grendel out to 250.
what you described is exactly what normally happens between those two rounds....one bullet is small and fast, one is large and slow, one has pointed tip one has blunt tip.....easy conclusion.
@@lrlapua8035 I guess you have never seen a 350 Legend round. They are pointed. It’s not a 30-30. The 350 is simply a straight wall cartridge since some states require that to hunt.
@@adamr9215 LOL....yes I have seen a 350 (wannabe) Legend.....not a pointed bullet like a 5.56, 2 different bullets...
@@lrlapua8035 Of course they are different bullets, you are talking about a .22 caliber vs a .35 caliber. But, 350 Legend are pointed.
I'm sold on that bullet that you were using in this video. It worked for me very well this [almost] past deer season here in Southeastern Michigan, in the restricted firearm [formerly shotgun] zone. 200 yards is the absolute max that I will attempt to take a deer with, with the 350 Legend. I would say that trying to go past that would border on being irresponsible sportsmanship, just my opinion of course. For where I hunt the 350 is perfect; far preferable over a shotgun slug or the hassle of dealing with a muzzleloader. I know many would disagree with me. That's fine. It is great to have options for all of our different preferences. Thanks for the video. I enjoy your material very much. Keep up the great work. God bless.
You are a ethical hunter and I agree 100%. Past 200 yards the energy is just not there. Might hit one farther but as hunters we should make sure we have a humane kill on our game. I’m glad they built that round for you folks up there so you don’t have to use shotguns and muzzleloaders.
I'm in southeast Michigan as well gonna pick myself up a 350 here real soon
I use an 18 1/2 in barreled .350 Legend for white tails (due to state regulations on hunting cartridges) and with this Winchester 180 grain load, I have consistently flatlined white tails on the spot, every where between 15 and 100 yards, with no need for adjusting where I aim at these ranges. Zeroed at 100 yards, I get the same shot groups at the range as shown in this video, between 50 and 100 yards, with 3 shots averaging an inch group at 100 yards.
I have found this set up fairly accurate and lethal out to 160 yards, on white tail, having to hold about 6 inches over at this range, tho I've only had the occasion to make a shot this far twice since hunting with the .350 Legend (technically one shot at 150 yrd and one at 160 yrd, both equally lethal)
With my short barrel length of 18 1/2 inches I'm not sure what kind of accuracy I'd have @200 yards, compared to this video, but now I have an idea and am going to have to find a 200 yrd range to try it out at.
I agree, the Winchester 180 gr shoots consistently in my 18" AR upper. I find similar results to others, very flat shooting between 50yd and 100 yd. I also found the Herter's 180 gr perform the same for me with no discernable difference - in fact, I would guess they are probably produced by same manufacturer or use same if not very similar powder, bullet, and primers.
@@rwsmith7 I've never seen those. Are they priced comparably to the Winchesters?
I appreciate the comparison. With the 350 Legend maybe sighting in at 150 yards makes sense in order to minimize apparent drop.
I absolutely fell in love with my 350 Legend right after the first shot!
The mild recoil is definitely a selling point for those of us that do not have straight wall restrictions.
Living and hunting all my life in Pennsylvania.. most the deer are shot within 75 yards.
The 350 will knock the snot out of the biggest buck in the woods inside 100 yards. This past season I downed a big bodied pennsylvania eight point and my brother's nephew downed a huge 10 point with his.
We both were using Federal 180 grains. Complete pass through double lung shot. A blind person could follow the blood trail.. but unnecessary due to both deer falling within thirty yards of the shots.
Thanks for sharing this brother 😊
Good video. My Mossberg Patriot will group just about any 350 ammo under 1.5 MOA , with the exception of the 145 FMJs. Heavier bullets seem to group better though. I can get sub MOA all day with the 180's. It's interesting to see the drop from 100 to 200, but I don't think I'd be reaching for the 350 if I was pretty sure I'd be presented with shots on deer over much 100yrds. I snagged one because the rifle/scope package was $219 on a black Friday deal, and I can use it in Michigan's "limited rifle zone". If it wasn't for the fact I do most of my dear hunting in this zone, I doubt I'd own one. An AR build in 350 Legend would be kind of cool though.
Rainbow colored stock for a cartridge that delivers a rainbow trajectory.
I'd say 200 yards is asking a lot from the round on a deer. Yeah probably will kill, but energy is dropping off, and you may end up not finding them. The round is already known for little to no blood trail.
I mentioned this on the 7.62x39 bullet drop video and 350 Legend has similar drop; Zero at 150 yards, then you can dead hold up to 200 yards and hit the deer. Just like Winchester prints on their box.
No, typical 7.62x39 drops considerably less. It has higher BC (0.24-0.28) and higher MV (2350-2400 ft/s)
@@imeprezime1285 Did you read the box for Deer Season XP? 2325 fps & 0.223 BC. Similar to 7.62x39.
@@JohnHabbinga Never heard of it. That's not a typical 7.62x39 mm then
@@imeprezime1285 Winchester 350 Legend Deer Season XP. The drop is similar enough to 7.62x39 out to 200 yards. So either caliber, zero at 150 yards, then you can hold your scope’s crosshairs on the target and you will hit within a minute of deer.
@@JohnHabbinga Ah sorry, I thought you refered to 7.62×39. There is variety of 7.62x39 ammo on the market. I even saw bullets with pretty round nose in that caliber (probably for hunting purposes)
So the 350 Legend has zero drop at 700 yards as long as I sight in 444 inches high at 100 yards. I always take the manufacturer’s data with a grain of salt.
Here in Iowa the 350 legend is good if you don't shoot past 200y. Seems to me if you can handle the thump the 450bm is just flatter and has more authority out to 300y.
200 yds is the longest shot I'll have where I hunt so I practiced with my hand loads out of my 350L. I was getting pretty close to the same 10" drop
A 350 legend lever action rifle would be my go to deer rifle, it'd be the perfect rifle for hunting the back woods of the Appalachian mountains here in Kentucky, we rarely get a good clear shot over 200yds, unless shooting from mountain top to mountain top and that's just dangerous IMO
I'm waiting on one too man. Lol they gotta make one for us soon
I just got me a 350 and I am impressed with it my Gun thanks about this video
Your dreams have come true. Remington just released the 360 buck hammer just for lever gun's! Cheer's
Common sense says 200 yards should be the maximum range, same with the 30-30, of course the 35Rem, 358 Winchester, are better at retaining killing energy at longer ranges.
I still feel that the 350 Legend has a place in the field, young and old, for those who can’t take the recoil, for many, many years, my wife’s go to big game critter getter was a Marlin, 444, she shot the 444 very well, killed several deer, but she’s not young anymore, and she’s getting shoulder issues.
This summer I bought her a 350 Legend upper, she loves it, almost no recoil, and no more complaints about a sore shoulder, I haven’t started to Handload yet, it’s coming!
Pasic Fysic's.. i think that there is something to do whit GRAVITY&WEIGHT.. SPEED???.
Love 350, I was not getting much drop at all from 100 to 50, kinda scratching my head on it. Now I ain't worried about it. Thanks WTW.
I loved my 350 legend so much I just ordered a ar-15 upper in 350 legend
I just watched your video from 6 years ago when you got out your pse foxfire crossbow we certainly have come a long way with crossbows i own the same foxfire pse as you certainly interesting
This is the only cartridge Walmart carries, so I had to see the videos on it, might be something to buy, I usually don't shoot hogs past 100yds.
How about a 25 or 35 yard zero. This should get you
+\- 4 or so inches out to 200. What would those numbers be?
3.5" high at 100 yards will put you 3.5" low at 200 yards. Plenty good enough for deer.
I always sight in at 25 yards, then 50 then 100 to make sure, but on at 25 yards put you in the bullseye, anywhere out to 200, and here in VT in the woods you very rarely get that shot.
@@edeldridge36 Thats awesome. Thank you good sir.
@@leadhead7338Absolutely understand the hunting in the woods. The 350L I will be using this year as a brush gun.
@@billdont2458 seems alot like the 'OL 35 Remington, but that 35 cal round will be a great brush gun, i just went with a Remington 7600 .35 Whelen, and the recoil broke my crosshairs, vortex sent a new one with instructions not to exceed 18 inch pounds, so i tightened it to 18" lbs
and shot her yesterday, got her on at 25 yards, and noticed the new scope is sliding forward through the Weaver rings! i only have 5 shots now and cant find any damn 35 Whelen any wheres! so out comes the 'OL Rem 760 Game Master in .308 ive had sense i was 13, i got here in 2001, and what a gun!
Great video. Been waiting to see a video like this. I had my 350 Ruger American now for 3 years now. I have mine sighted in about 1 1/2” high at a 100 yards. I consider it a good 200 yard gun. Yes it’s no 7mm but by far better than any foster deer slug or sabot shotgun slug I’ve found when hunting deer in Iowa.
Do you have a 450 bushmaster?
I would like to see the test performed on 450 bush.
Already did that in a video
That is great bullet drop and a good gun for deer hunting can’t lie about it
I've got a howa in .308 and one in 6.5 creed. Both sub .75 moa easy. Absolutely love em! Chasing black bear with the .308 this weekend and chasin deer with the 6.5 in a couple weeks
I love my .350 legend. I’ve had good results with the 150 grain.
Great gun really good for what they are I'm a big fan of them love mine
I would love to see a 45 colt lever action bullet drop and see what the actual effective range of a 45 colt +P round.
That is crazy how much it drops at longer ranges. It's really nice to have an idea of what can be considered "long" ranges for different calibers.
It's fatter than 30 cal. That's why it loses speed faster. But if you load it right, you can still get less than 6 inches of drop at 200 yards.
The cartridge is designed to drop like a rock after 200 yards, so it won’t hit the houses on the other side of the field/woodlot you’re hunting in. It’s really designed to be a 150 yard and in round. If you use it for that, you’re perfectly fine.
I’m curious about 300 Blackout bullet drop!
In the house 🏡
My guy, the bullet drop vidyas are the $h!t!!!!
Keep em’ coming!
Love that Howa especially the Boyd's stock. Try the 255 gr sub-sonic at 200 yds. That's about a 2 1/2 ft drop but it expands well out to 125 yds. Good group at 200. 👍
Thank you sir, that was exactly what I was looking for! My 350 Legend (Ruger American of course 😀 ) is still fairly new, but I've not had a chance to stretch it to 200 yards yet. Really really good information on how relatively flat that was between 50 and 100 yards, and then how far it dropped at the 200. Most of my hunting is limited to 50-100 metres visibility owing to bush and terrain, so good to know I've got both easily covered 👍
Great content as always.
Appreciate you watching
I bought mine to deal with coyote out to 150 and take deer inside of 100. It's perfect and at 80 cents per round, it's cheaper to shoot than 44 mag, and has twice the energy.
I do not have WTW's budget, I can keep my arsenal to only half a dozen calibers. I can't afford to buy booji stuff like he does. But I find this information interesting, should I ever decide to branch out. :)
I don’t hunt any farther than i can see with my eyes 100 yards is fine for me 👍🏻
This is my favorite hog & deer gun by far (from TX). All the shots are within 150 yds, .35 caliber slams ‘em down, light to carry (ar15 platform vs ar10), and recoil is same as a 223/556. Love it.
Hey Wtw can you do one on the Marlin 444 lever action rifle, factory ammo pushes a 240 gr bullet at 2500fps
Need a 444
Cool stuff! Not really digging this round. Even at 5'1", 90 pounds I can handle something with more ooomph! 😛
It really depends on where you hunt. If you live in Georgia you probably never shoot a deer past 100 yards. If you live in Wyoming, then I would not recommend a 350 Legend.
@@TexanUSMC8089 I live in Texas. There's nothing in this state that you can't bag with either a 5.56 or 7.62. :)
I picked up one in a ranch compact In 350 legend because ammo has been available and my shots will come inside 100 here in Ga. Good shooting rifle very handy.
@@merlinnorris817 I have no doubt that it is useful. But I am trying to keep my rifles and guns to less than 6 calibers. Just because one caliber performs 1.5% better than another is not a selling point for me. I am being pragmatic and limiting my ammo selection to a minimum and to calibers that will get the job done. Nothing fancy.
I have no doubt that this is a cool a caliber. But there are dozens of calibers that do it better.
It was moving so slow at 200 that could see the bullet before it hit the target
WTW more interested in all the leather ware around your shoulders. You gone all retro with a shoulder holster? Early on I saw what looked like a mag under your right arm, if it's not a mag pouch I'm guessing a man purse and I wouldn't want to ask questions about that!
I looked up 350 Legend and.. straight walled case is very similar to .357 from a Marlin or M1 Carbine. I checked .357 from Marlin performance (shot metal target matches to 200 yards) 357 gets 1900 fps on a 158 grain bullet with 14.9 grains of H110 or W296 You can get faster speeds with a 125 grain bullet 357 but it will not knock down a metal target at 200 yards ( I think WHO TEE WHO has some video tests of 357 on concrete blocks .. back a year or so ago)
Hey who tee who I can’t wait for the vid
Its a good " in the timber " or brush rifle. And thats its " Legend " Ahh ha ha ha! Have a great night buddy 🌙
Great info WTW. I got my 350 Legend pacifically to hunt deer at ranges of 60 to 100 yards, which is about my average shot where I hunt. I just felt it would make a good brush gun. I am so ready for deer season and cant wait to hit the woods this year.
Are u pacifically in the Pacific region
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Now I think it would be interesting to see the bullet drop at one fifty. See how much b s they're putting on the box
That’s amazing. A 37’ drop at 700yds. With a 100yd zero, you should only have to hold about 2” over the back of a deer to hit the kill zone. I wouldn’t push it no farther than 200yds due to the loss of energy.
thank you sir this is great stuff thats the ammo i have on hand
Thanks for watching Les!
Hust finished legend ar 20 inch barrel build shooting right sofar
LOL...I do the opposite, i shoot at 25 yards then 50 and then 100 and their is around 2 inches of deviation, though usually on at 25 yards puts an inch high at 50 yards and rite on at 100
Pls do a 7mm rem mag everyone talks about how flat shooting it is but I'd like to see it in action
Already did that
My daughter has a savage axis youth. I got her on a 100 with the win deer season 150 grain and it only drops 3.5-4 inch at 200. So I picked it up a inch high at 100 now. I just haven't tried it again at 200 yet. But its coming.
Hey Adam
They drop like a brick after 200 yards I didn’t think it would be that much , great video Mate keep em coming thank you , Aussie Steve .
Im liking that rifle!! That's a fine looking weapon.
I love these bullet drop video's, here in Jersey we can only use shotgun's legally, but you've revved up my motor to hurry up and get out to Arizona or Texas. I can do the math and read the boxes, but I love the gun's. That Howa is gorgeous! I really want to do handgun hunting, I did it once in Pennsylvania and got myself a very nice Doe. I also want to hunt with my Henry's or when Marlin comes back, I'm sure Ruger will bring them back to their glory day's. About a week ago I heard the CEO of Ruger say they are looking at a release date around the end of December. You have gotten me into other rifle's instead of a lever action. Have a great night! Sincerely Ruger Rich
Just went and confirmed zero after scope adjustment. My savage likes the 180 grain booolots more than the 150s. Ready for Kansas whitetail
Pre-rut.
I saw your 700 yard video! That's pretty impressive! Definitely drops like a sack of potatoes!🇺🇸✝🇺🇸
6.5 Grendel! In the Ruger American Ranch rifle! I want one badly!
Thank you, I always leave the woods PISSED, because I couldn't connect to my cameras to adjust where they were pointing.
Would have been curious to see the drop from 100 yards to 150 yards. Just got myself a 350 legend, and I was thinking I’d probably be doing most of my shooting at 100 or less, though would love to push the range a little beyond 100 if possible. Wasn’t planning to do much around 200.
Split the difference and you'll be close enough
So i’m in a spot where the indoor range near my house i can sight in at 30 max. Got it on there because i mainly wild boar hunt with dogs and shoot shots 30 yards and closer, but every now and again i would like to shoot at my uncle camp 100 yards max. Do you think it would shoot real high?
I'm thinking 1-1/2" high at 100yrds would be a perfect zero for the 350, should cover 25 yards to 150 yards. Just my opinion. I don't ever need no more than 100, so that's where I zero mine.
Very interesting caliber WTW. It did better than I thought! Thanks for sharing brother!🤘🏽
I zeroed my Savage 1110 HB in .350 Legend at 200 yards. 2 1/2 inch groups with Browning 155 grain spitzer. Yesterday I took a doe at 157 yards up hill. One shot, one kill. That was number 7 with that rifle.
I love this caliber and this series of videos you've got going on now! Keep up the great work
If you look closely at 5:48 you can see the bullet going through the air and hitting the paper.
So just for a comparison, what’s the drop on a .223/5.56 between 100 and 200 yards?
And your skills are far beyond my comprehension. If the round is dropping 444 inches how do you compensate for that?
The furthest I shot with an acog (4x32) was 500 yards but that was a relatively easy process. I just can’t imagine 5.56 dropping hundreds of inches like that.
Great new “series” on the channel. Would love to see this with all the calibers you own! I’ve been wanting to do this with my 450 BM to see if the 9” drop with 100 yd 0 is generous.
Another good one my friend.
45-70 would be a good one to show drop.
350 legend...200 yard gun max. 3 foot drop at 300? too many variables. good brush gun in straight walled cartridge states.
This cartridge is just begging to be chambered in a lever gun. Win '94 or Marlin 336 action with this intermediate power level to the pistol calibers and big boys like the 45-70, ballistics similar to a 30-30win but cheaper to shoot. 35 cal just like the 35 rem, but you don't have to reload to be able to shoot it. Make it happen Ruger/Rossi/Henry/Winchester!
It is designed to drop quickly, that’s why it’s allowed in those previously shotgun states. I come from Ohio, and have killed most deer with a 12 gauge slug. They won’t allow long range caliber, because of population density. IMO
I know with the many variables aside. I am only able to zero at 50 yards currently. Shooting 165gr ,16” barrel what would be your opinion theoretically 100yd,150yd would be with that 50yrd? zero.
Curious if it would just be easier to zero it to what the box suggests. Sure if you zero at 150 you will be high at 50 yards but in regard to the lethal zone of a deer 2” will still kill.
I’ve been wanting to try this with my 12 ga as well. Zero at 150 and have a one size fits all.
I’m curious to see if you tried to zero as the box suggests what results you would get.
Look up the ballistics for the 145 grain, and the 124 grain Winchester 350 Legend. I think you will be surprised how much faster it can go. faster is flatter.
I like that stock.What price tange is it?
I like my 350 Legend.But it's not as accurate as my 450 Bushmaster out to 200 yards.Good video
I know your talking about 350, but I have a 450 bushmaster mossberg and I shoot 250 grain Hornady, dropped a deer this year 223 yrds..really love the 450bm
Easy math... 2.2 inches drop from 100 to 150, 5.5 inches from 150 to 200, so 7.7 inches from 100 to 200. According to the box.
I'm looking for a sub $500 bolt rifle in 350 legend....in your opinion what's the best shooting rifle in that price point? Thanks
Do 556 bullet drop, it's a popular bullet so a lot of people would want to see it!
Awesome video
I think the 350 legend mirrors the .357 maximum in ballistics except the 350 legend is a 9mm and the maximum is .358 diameter.
If you are going to compare 350 legend to 30.06 then it looses. Compare it to 30-30 (the cartridge that took more whitetail deer than any other) it's almost equal out to 200 yards... at 1/4 the cost per round.
Need a 45-70 video!
Sum rely goot info heer. So, I'm jus thinkn this booolot jus ain't fer me. Where I hunt 200 yerds ain't nothing. 👍👍 Keep theez tests acomin!!!