i have owned a vangard in 300 wby mag for about 25 years started reloading due to this gun ,,mine seems to like the 180 grain area best as for grouping if the barrel is hot @1.5 at 100y,,,if i let the barrel cool a bit i can get much tighter groups even a few all three in a single ragged hole. As for firing unknown reloads just don't
The first thing that I would have done is try to find out thru the place you bought it from just who exactly sold the gun and get in contact with them and see what I could find out. My guess is that dad died and a family member ditched all his stuff.
Yes reuse what you can and measure bullet diameter. If it doesn't measure right don't use it but still keep it till you figure out what is really for .
I still have a manlicher 6.5 mouser. It's as accurate (for me) as my modern savage BA 110T 6.5 Creedmoor at any given range the group almost identically.😂
I have only ever shot reloads from someone I knew personally and would trust with my life. He taught me a lot about shooting and hunting. He was like a second father to me. Shooting reloads from someone I didn't know would scare me.
I had an accident with oversized brass being stuck in the chamber of an automatic. The extractor couldn’t unload the round all the way, hit the slide on the end and boom 💥 my bloody hand and hearing hurt. 😢Idiot reloaded it but didn’t resize it. I wouldn’t removed the firing pin if I had been thinking slower 😂
Smart move. I have reloaded for about 30 years, and I am usually very incredibly careful. However, I loaded some ammo for a friend once, and on the last batch, I somehow wound up screwing up and overcharging it. Luckily, no one got hurt as his pistol launched a giant fireball downrange and the muzzle wound up almost vertical. He looked at me and said, you know there's no such thing as +P .357 magnum!
Right on! I NEVER shoot somebody else's reloads, & I also NEVER give or sell mine to somebody else. IF somebody asks me to load ammo for them, my answer is always "NO, but you can go buy your own componants & use my equipment & I will watch you."
if you have reloads that YOU didn't reload and are thinking about using them, pull up a chair at a table with the reloads and a cold non-alcohol drink. just sit a while looking at the reloads and enjoy your beverage.....and think about all that you know about reloads. and see how long it takes for sweat to form on your brow.
Great video. Glad shooting those reloads did not end in disaster. I have been reloading for 45 years and according to my logbooks, I have reloaded over 400,000 rounds in 23 different cartridges without ever having a problem. But i would NEVER shoot reloads from someone that i did not know and trust.
@WHOTEEWHO Not really. Many of the reloads were 38 spc, 9mm, 40 sw, 45 acp and 223. My wife, kids, brothers, and nephews all like to shoot. We have family get together where going through a couple of hundred rounds each is normal.
@@scottwinkle5503you have a fully automated press or something? Lol. I have a friend who owns a company that manufacturers 9mm and he hasn't loaded half that many in his first 3 years of business (granted hes focussed on building the client base first)
One of your reloads musta went piff... or Whoooooomp! At least when I reload I know if I blow my face off its all my own doing. I dont even let my friends shoot my reloads... or is it that they dont want to shoot my reloads... or is it because i dont have friends? 😢
@MyHuntingJournal It sounds like a lot of rounds, but when you divide it over the 45 years it is not that many per year. I have a Dillon 550b and a Hornady lnl AP with a case feeder so it is not difficult to load 250+ rounds per hour. Also, since my family members shoot the ammo they help buy the components. I actually enjoy the process of reloading. It beats the heck out of watching TV, lol.
As a reloader for many years, I will say this…typically, if someone has a cartridge that you can’t buy just anywhere (ie 6.5-300) you would think they should know what they are doing. But you never know
@@peterg1448 amen to that. Whether they're in boxes, bags, whatever, every round I have is sorted by powder, charge weight, bullet, CBTO, and sometimes primer if I'm wanting to do a comparison (for 55 gr. Fmj range blasting ammo, not so much on primers).
I been reloading for 52 years? I cast my own bullets from 22 caliber upto 45 caliber and including 6mm :5 caliber 30 caliber 35 caliber both pistol and rifle caliber I use linatype or printers lead and tin as hardners? It’s been more fun than just reloading
Back in the mid 60's, I got set up with an FFL, and while I was at it, I added a manufacturers license ! I thought I would reload and sell ammo. A lawyer friend told me I better get some good insurance, so I thought why not .Boy,!!!!was I surprised ! That kind of insurance would have cost me the equivalent per month as my house payment ! Needless to say, I've NEVER even loaned any of my own reloads to anyone. Hey fella,, you make interesting videos !!!
Back in the 80’s I used to go to a local small store that only sold reloaded ammo. Imagine that today.🤣🤣🤣🤣 Right before he closed up shop and was getting rid of his inventory he mentioned to me that insurance laws were kicking in and the cost was prohibitive. I mostly just got cast 45acp ammo and occasionally 44 special. I miss that place… shooting back then was dirt cheap. Now I just cast and reload my own ammo.👍🥃
The only people that need to worry about barrel burn out are those shooting multiple boxes of ammo at the range. That is a hunting rifle and it should never be an issue .
@@alexmunn5321 That's only true if you are the typical, buy one box per year type. I shot out my 26 Nosler Xbolt in two years . Some people like to shoot their guns.
The 6.5-300 is basically the hopped up Weatherby version of the .264 Winchester Magnum. It's got about a 200 fps advantage over the .264. When I was a kid my dad had a .264 and it was a shooting SOB!
I've got a Savage chambered in .264WM, thems are some spicy bois! My reloads are pushing a 140gr Hornady SST at 3200 FPS, drops elk at 400 yards like flipping a light switch. .264WM is a terribly underrated cartridge, it's one of the flattest, hardest hitting guns I own. I can't think of a reason to want something that shoots any faster, 140 grains at 3200 FPS is insane...
I've lived by the Golden Rule: "If in doubt, throw it OUT!" This has served me and my critters very well in all things food, water (Source), clothing/equipment, and definitely regarding ammunition! Dangerous things always find me choosing caution over curiosity. Great video, and outstanding advice/perspective(s)!
Part of your problem is your sled is bouncing around and makes it hard to really get back on true. You need to load the sled down with a bunch of lead shot bags. It is called a lead sled after all lol. That will help alot. When you get time contact the previous owner and ask him when the gun liked the best.
I had the same thought about the lead sled. I own one, but prefer my sand bags. My sled hangs out at my buddy's house now. I know where to find it if I need it.
Thanks for posting up the real results, even when you are disappointed with them. Not every rifle is under 1MOA no matter what ammo goes in it, I would hazard that at least half the rifles out in America will not shoot 1 MOA no matter the ammo or bench rest.
About 20 years ago I owned a Weatherby Vanguard in .30 06. Loved that rifle. Mysteriously disappeared from my father-in-law’s house when I got divorced.
Should have reported it stolen, along with the serial number. That way, if/when it turned up, the thief might just end up buying a lawyer a new car on his own nickel.
If the brass ejects normal then its ok. Check the brass for flatened primer, splits or cracked brass which is a sign of high pressure. Appeared the brass came out easy, no problems. Weatherby says it all 👍👍
I also was watching those bullets and I can say those suckers were really zipping along (Technical Term for FAB) sure was glad I was wearing my Tin hat to get those precise FPS as they zipped down range.
As a reloading rule never fire someone else’s reloads. That said you got a sub MOA group! Once you reload for this Hootey you are going to have one hell of a long range deer rifle! Thanks for sharing! 🙏
I was shooting factory Barnual 243. It seemed a little spicy and I wasn't paying attention for overpressure signs, because it was commercial factory ammo. Finally split a case and scored the chamber in my new Tikka.
Where did the case split at? If in the neck it could of been overly generous chamber dimensions (for that ammo) or just weak brass/steel in the cartridge. I've had some crappy brass split in the neck over the years but weren't inherently "hot" loaded rounds. Brass reused too many times will also do that, but this was new ammo you mentioned, so it shouldn't have been that.
@@Freezer003 Barnaul is steel cased Russian ammo. It's generally considered reasonable quality for what it is. With the current world situation it's a little rare to see now.
@@fishcars8078 It split about 1" long lengthwise right in the middle of the steel casing. It wasn't at the neck or head. Afterwards I looked at the other spent cartridges and the primers were badly flattened. The ammo was trying to tell me, I just failed to listen. That was my lesson.
Most people are pretty reasonable with reloading, maybe not precision, but safe. There are however those few that have no idea what they're doing and can end up blowing your face off. You probably have better than a 90% chance of it being fine... but you never know. It was definitely good that you checked OAL to get an idea first.
I use the same chronograph, set it about 12 feet from the muzzle, pull the bolt and make sure while looking thru the barrel at your target from the action end of course, that your line of sight thru the barren is going thru the "window" created by the steel rods that the light shields mount on. I do this during load work up at100 yards, allows me to document velocities and SD and ES numbers in relationship to the groups. Helps to find that perfect balance of speed and accuracy with low deviation numbers. Been doing it for years, havent blown up the chrony yet! Great video! I also would have been like your friends...if you dont know who made the ammo and trust them with your life, dont shoot it! Glad it worked out for you, but i have seen revolvers turn into grenades when people dont follow safe loading practices.
There was one time it looked like the bolt was a little harder turning. That's when I would've started to get nervous to keep going. Pull em apart and use the components -powder if you have doubts.
Double check the action screws. Even if they're tight you might have a bedding problem. Also, cloudy days help those chronographs. It's the bright sunny days that makes them require the sun shield over the sensors and I noticed you only have one over the close sensor. It should have an identical one over the back sensor too.
If you have a case comparator measure one of the fired cases then the loaded cases to see how far the shoulders got pushed back during the reloading process. You may want to consider getting a belted magnum collet sizing die by Larry Willis. I believe you can come up with a lot better handloads.
I took 3 boxes of Hornady Whitetail hunting in South Africa, they had the same batch number. All three boxes had problems with the propellant, one round fell on the floor 40yds in front of the springbok I'd aimed at. Luckily my mate had some spare ammo and I could carry on hunting. Never used Whitetail since.
Buy a bullet puller. You will need it for the ammo you load too. If your testing different powder charges sooner or later you will load them too hot. Pull the bullets and reload them.
If you don’t have one already get yourself a bullet puller. Use it to disassemble the cartridges. Trash the powder, and I personally would deprime the brass and start with all “known” components. I wouldn’t even use the primers and I would measure the brass to verify the length is within specs. I personally would never trust unknown handloads. Good luck and be safe!
BTW if that chrono uses eddy currents, then all those stacked up body armors sitting next to it are interfering with it's readings: Lots of steel that is very susceptible to becoming magnetized. Eddy Current are a very faint alternating magnetic field FYI - the metal in the bullet interferes with the field, length of interference determines speed.
thats an optical type it looks for the shadow of what passes over the sensers and counts the time it takes to cross the known distance between the 2 sensers the sky screens above them help disperse the light when outdoors so that direct sunlight does not over power the sensers too much
I absolutely love my 6.5-300's. I load my own ammo for them using the 127gr. Barnes LRX , Wby. Brass, Federal Gold Metal Match lg. mag. rifle primers, and Hodgdon US 869. Very efficient freezer filling machine.💯
Weatherby and their weird proprietary calibers. 🤪 A few of them are pretty doggone good, but most of them are made in the land of misfit toys. Weatherbys are like trophy wives - absolutely beautiful and make you feel all squishy inside, but at the end of the day, you just know that to keep and operate one, you're going to need a co-signer. 😉
The shadow of the bullet has to pass directly over the sensors in order to get accurate readings with that type of chronograph . Light coming in from the side is bad news and leads t to frustrating readings . Hope this helps . Cheers Adam
My nephew had a vanguard in 22-250 and we could not get it to shoot at all with different ammo. It did not have a free floated barrel and we guess that may have been the reason. Beautiful gun though. Anyways, he sold it not long after.
You changed barrel harmonics from what the reloads were originally done for by putting your can on it. You'll need to redevelop your loads to the set up you intend to shoot. If you're not seeing pressure signs like flattened or cratered primers, heavy bolt lift, stuck cases or split cases they are fine to shoot. Get yourself the new Garmin chronograph. It's much better than what you are using and worth the investment. There is no way you're getting 4400 fps without blowing up your cases.
I've been reloading for 55 years and there certain things that you must pay attention to. Always use published loading data, never start at the maximum load, do not substitute components, clean and check brass prior to loading, always load to published overall cartridge length, also published load data can be hot. I recently used Hodgdon load data to reload .360 Buckhammer. I started off 1.5 grains below maximum. The first rounds were sticky to extract with flattened primers. Signs of pressure. I decreased the powder by .5 grains and all problems went away and accuracy was great.
Thanks for another day at The world famous Heavy Metal Range WTW sure knows how to cool a firearm quickly by opening the bolt, setting the gun upright, so the hot air traveling up the barrel draws much cooler air in the Breach and up the barrel cooling it to maximum efficiency. Wa Yea
Whoteewho give that thing a good scrub down to bare metal.The throat’s carbon up big time on those . Labradors are dirt cheap used since the new Garmin is out . I think you need one . Thanks for all you do
Years ago I was shooting my .357 revolver with a friend who also had a .357. He had bought some reloads from the local gun store, they came in a zip lock bag. After shooting a few I couldn’t seem to hit anything. I looked down the barrel and no rifling - the grooves were filled with soft lead. When I got home and cleaned the barrel with brass brushes I had a pile of lead that came out of the barrel, almost enough to mold another bullet.
My dad has been reloading for about 50 years and I have been reloading for about 25. We have never had a catastrophic failure. I know there have been some crazy reloading but most often I wouldn't be afraid to shoot rounds that come with a gun I am buying. If you are hesitant, just knock the bullets out and keep everything but the powder.
The best way for me to remember which direction to adjust a scope is to think of the turret like a screw. Tighten it and it (The Bullet) moves down, loosen it for up. Same for left and right.
Since you have the dies, pull the bullets, dump the powder(it makes decent fertilizer), and charge with your own powder. Whomever contacted you claiming to be the prior owner, might provide insight into the loads - primer, actual bullet description, etc. Good luck.
So far seems like they knew what they were doing to me atleast 1 one thousandth of inch which in my eyes are close enough because that's just the length I'd more worried about diameter and weight
@@NelsonZAPTMolder stuff wouldn’t worry about, but there are so many chemical treatments on modern powders to adjust burn rate that who knows what that stuff would do to your plants. The modern treated powders work amazing but it does raise other questions.
Just a general rule of thumb, not necessarily for you, but for everyone who reads this comment. The only reloads you should ever trust are your own. It doesn't matter if it's from someone you know and trust with your life. Reloads can be dangerous, especially with high pressure rounds, and the worst part, your going to be hard pressed to be able to sue some random person who bought your reloads from compared to a actual ammunition manufacturer, who can actually pay off your medical expenses/funeral. Not only can you be injured or killed, but if it was a friend or relative who made those reloads, it will forever be on their conscious. TBH, I don't even recommend buying ammo from any company other than big name brands unless they are reputable and well known, and this is quite honestly, because if you need to sue for medical costs or such, Winchester won't go bankrupt, but some guy in a shed at 2am churning out .308 definitely can't. In general, other's reloads can be less reliable, less accurate, more dangerous, and not any cheaper than reputable brands. Why buy them then? To save a few cents per round? The only time you should ever buy reloads are if its incredibly cheap, and the only thing you should do with them is take em apart, inspect the brass, and reload them yourself. You can use the same powder if you are sure its the right kind, but I would rather just use my own powder. Seriously, you never know what kind of powder it is, how stable it is, and how old it is. Too many people have been injured or killed from pistol powder spiked rifle rounds, or rifle rounds packed with far too much powder.
I was reloading 357 for a 686-6. I followed the reloading from the bullet manufacturer EXACTLY. I was loading by volume but also checking each one by weight (it was a new to me powder HP-38). I loaded to the low and up to the max in small increments (it wasnt a big spread). The LOW one was really hot. Like not good. I went back home. Checked the load data against all the common load data sources... the LOW was EQUAL OR HIGHER than the HIGH than the amount listed on the bullet manufacturer page. So you can even make no mistakes and still get a surprise.
Been reloading for over 30 years. I would pull the heads, dump the powder and de-prime. Resize that brass, (weigh) the bullets to verify what you have, then load with new primer and powder. DO NOT fire reloaded ammo from an unknown source!
Curious.... did u leave the ammo on the table in the sun while the gun cooled? That can impact pressure and ballistics and could explain the 1.8 cold vs .92 warm. Cold barrel warm ammo vs warm barrel warm ammo. And u should have chrono'd every shot
I bought an Arkin EP-8 about a month ago and love it so far despite zeroing in a bit breezy conditions. Could have used that discount. Love clear glass and the reticle on it.
I used to have a 6.5 STW, The rifle was phenomenally accurate for the first 300 rounds then it started showing signs of throat erosion . With the bearing surface of the 6.5 bullet and the higher velocities I wouldn’t expect the barrel to have a very long serviceable lifespan.
Been running almost this exact same rig for about 4 years now in 6.5 Creed, been a solid 3/4 min gun with pretty much everything I shoot. Three position safety, sako extractor, fluted barrel, 2-stage trigger, stock is pretty much garbage but for under a 1k, one of the best hunting rifles you can buy.
As long as the brass hasn’t been compromised… The fired brass will be formed to your chamber. That should help tighten up your groups providing that you find the right powder and bullet combination. Nice gun. Cool video.💪👍🥃
That brass is worth a small fortune. Use a Hornady collet bullet puller with appropriate collet. Dump the powder in the flower garden as it’s good fertilizer. Reload working up from loading manual as usual. Best of my knowledge that cartridge isn’t just the fastest 6.5…..it’s simply the fastest of all calibers. Barrel life is probably about 800 shots and who knows how much it’s been shot already. I know the theory behind using a lead sled, but accuracy is thrown off with them. This video shows how much that sled moves upon firing. Sell that thing for scrap metal! Nice rifle though. I’d love that in a 6.5-284 Norma or 7PRC.
Reloads.. pull and use the powder as fertilizer then, resize (as it may have been neck sized) re-prime and reload. Only buy used hand loads if the cost is well below the component cost or VERY RARE.
Yes, it's interesting, but I'd have to check out a few things before I would buy one my self. And yes, be very aware of loads being too hot from a factory too!
I like how you chase your up and down on your scope like I do. for years I was really lost in the sauce zeroing in scopes, thats until I got sled and Strelok Pro ....man that made my life easier!
I am just starting your video and my eyes and face just cringed when I realized what you were about to do. I have been reloading for 53 years… and if I did not load it… I pull the bullets and start over.
I had a thin barrel like that on a .308. Futzed with it for almost a year with different loads and scopes. After 4 shots the groups went all over the paper. Found out barrel was flexing. Got rid of the barrel for a heavier one and groups tightened right up.
I bought some reman ammo once during the planned Covid hysteria when ammo was scarce. Several primers failed with good strikes. Some were more powerful than others (I could easily hear the difference). Stopped after a few. Not blowing up my gun to save a few dollars.
Maybe you already know this, but measuring overall length is unreliable due to differences between where the points on spitzer bullets will be. The best method is to use one of the tools (Hornady makes one, and Brownells sells one for multiple calibers that I have) that measure to the ogive.
I am sideways! haha never shoot someone elses loads.. you know why.... you can pull the bullets, def save the brass. you can weigh the powder if you wanna.
If you know the powder used in the reload then you can disassemble a few, measure the load to published data, and if it is within spec I'd try a few. Otherwise, open them all, dump the powder on the lawn, neck size, and add new powder and the bullets yourself.
You can pull the bullets and check his listed weights on those and powder charges. Worse case you reload it all and save the cost of components. All we have in S. AL are whitetails. 6.5cm will take them at 600yds and that's a very rare shot.
If you're at a party with strangers would you trust what they rolled up? Nope, smoke your own rolled treats!!! Same story bro! Only trust what you rolled yourself. Grass or brass, it's all the same!
I bought 100rds of Federal Fusion 140gr 270, new in the box. they clame 3000f/sec. This they did, but they also produced far too much heat. Granted it was a hot day (over 100°), but it didn't take long before this ammo started popping out the primers and over heated the barrel.
To remember up and down just remember it'd like a screw, righty tighty equals down and lefty loosey is up.. on horizontal its righty tighty is left and lefty loosey is right.
Great rifle, hopefully it works out for you, I'd be interested in you taking one round of ammo apart and checking as to what is actually in it, measure the bullet and powder weights, maybe you'll even be able to identify what powder is in it and figure out if everything is safe. All the comments telling you not to shoot/trust that reloaded ammo are from your followers like me who care about your family and you, please stay safe
Of course C.O.L. really only matters to fit iin the magazine. I try to load my bullets to .020 off the rifling of my PRS rifle. and they are usually slightly longer than the recommended C.O.L. and I single load on a mag sled.
I have a Vanguard First Lite in 6.5x300, it would not group factory Weatherby ammo under 2.5 inches, not happy, I was told to contact Hendershots custom ammo in Maryland, after talking to him he loaded me some of his ammo, 143 ELD X's group 3/4 inch. I only use his ammo now for that rifle.
I have the Meat Eater special edition that Sportsman Warehouse sells. It doesn’t like the factory Ammo either. I had it bedded in a Boyd’s stock but haven’t had the opportunity to try it out again. Hopefully it will do better than the junk plastic stock that Howa puts them in. I have the 127 grain Barnes and the 130 grain Scirroco factory ammunition
Looks like this configuration rifle (long pencil fluted barrel) is capable a one shot every hour. If you shoot faster group size goes worldwide. Great show WhoTeeWho!
I think the 6.5 wheatherby might be a touch ammo fussy. My 264 win can be. When you start reloading for it you might find the over all length to be a big factor and bullet weight and style. Should be a really fun project
This cartridge is a fine round. But you should look into the 6.5 Ackley improved. Ballistics equal too slightly better and less expensive to reload with correct powder loads. Form fitted brass 6.5 creedmore.
I reloaded my own ammo for .300winmag. I used Hornady Interterloks 150 grain, and I get .771 groups with them loads. I tried some other type of Hornady 150 grain that was not Interloks, but it doesn't shoot the same. That load is all over the place. Not consistent with Interloks. I would try some factory loads in that caliber.
Considering the case volume of a 300wby, what could possibly go wrong if you loaded a really fast burning powder in a cartridge vs the slow burning powder which its recommended for? Yes, this ammo is expensive ($75-$120) , but so is an ER visit . Unlike an automobile, we dont come with replacement parts available at reasonable prices which are of the same quality or better than the original.
Personally, the only handloadsI have ever shot that weren't my own, were those loaded by my sons while I was teaching them to reload. I have been reloading for well over 2 decades and learned from my father who taught me, and of course, he and I taught my 4 sons how to.
The Weatherby Vanguard is pretty much a Howa 1500 with some extra gas vent holes in the bolt , that action should drop straight into an MDT Oryx chassis for a Howa long action , which should make at least some improvement in the difference between cold/warm groups , but I'm not entirely sure you will easily find a magazine with enough internal length . Maybe you could include that in your data collection and show us the results .
I have a lazzeroni war bird, pushing 212 ELDX at 3260fps out a 27 inch tube. Alway need a speed king, pushes 150g projectiles at near 3900fps judt for shits and giggles. It absolutely eats up the 212vldx with the load I have built up. Gun shoots consistent half minute with that load, no break and the rifle is a tick over 12lbs so it realllyyyyy talks to the shoulder lol.
I have 300 wbm in a encore that I am working on reloading different powders. If want something thst is a screamer shoot copper bullets. Suppose to be around 3800 125 grn copper out of 300, hadn't shot any thru monograph yet
I picked up some ammo like that in a package deal before I just used kinetic bullet puller dropped the bullet out discarded the powdered and reloaded the brass with a known quantity of a known powder
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i have owned a vangard in 300 wby mag for about 25 years started reloading due to this gun ,,mine seems to like the 180 grain area best as for grouping if the barrel is hot @1.5 at 100y,,,if i let the barrel cool a bit i can get much tighter groups even a few all three in a single ragged hole. As for firing unknown reloads just don't
The first thing that I would have done is try to find out thru the place you bought it from just who exactly sold the gun and get in contact with them and see what I could find out. My guess is that dad died and a family member ditched all his stuff.
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Don't trash the ammo!!!! Take them apart and trash the powder. Save the brass, primers, and bullets. Good luck and stay safe!!! 😉😉😉
Save the powder for fun stuff 😂
Agree. That brass is gold.
Yes reuse what you can and measure bullet diameter. If it doesn't measure right don't use it but still keep it till you figure out what is really for .
Exactly this👆
I mean you wont even know what primer they have
They are making so many 6.5 variations these days... they will eventually find out the old 6.5x55 swedish mouser got it right the first time. 😂
This is a fact. Never owned one, but loaded for and shot one many times. It's a classic.
Just like how the 7.65x53mm got the .30 cal right in the same year as 6.5x55mm
6.5 was good it's the technology behind the new case, bullet design, and powder
How does it compare with the 243 win?
I still have a manlicher 6.5 mouser. It's as accurate (for me) as my modern savage BA 110T 6.5 Creedmoor at any given range the group almost identically.😂
I have only ever shot reloads from someone I knew personally and would trust with my life. He taught me a lot about shooting and hunting. He was like a second father to me. Shooting reloads from someone I didn't know would scare me.
I had an accident with oversized brass being stuck in the chamber of an automatic. The extractor couldn’t unload the round all the way, hit the slide on the end and boom 💥 my bloody hand and hearing hurt. 😢Idiot reloaded it but didn’t resize it. I wouldn’t removed the firing pin if I had been thinking slower 😂
Smart move. I have reloaded for about 30 years, and I am usually very incredibly careful. However, I loaded some ammo for a friend once, and on the last batch, I somehow wound up screwing up and overcharging it. Luckily, no one got hurt as his pistol launched a giant fireball downrange and the muzzle wound up almost vertical. He looked at me and said, you know there's no such thing as +P .357 magnum!
Right on! I NEVER shoot somebody else's reloads, & I also NEVER give or sell mine to somebody else. IF somebody asks me to load ammo for them, my answer is always "NO, but you can go buy your own componants & use my equipment & I will watch you."
if you have reloads that YOU didn't reload and are thinking about using them, pull up a chair at a table with the reloads and a cold non-alcohol drink. just sit a while looking at the
reloads and enjoy your beverage.....and think about all that you know about reloads. and see how long it takes for sweat to form on your brow.
Great video. Glad shooting those reloads did not end in disaster. I have been reloading for 45 years and according to my logbooks, I have reloaded over 400,000 rounds in 23 different cartridges without ever having a problem. But i would NEVER shoot reloads from someone that i did not know and trust.
Wow that is a lot
@WHOTEEWHO
Not really. Many of the reloads were 38 spc, 9mm, 40 sw, 45 acp and 223. My wife, kids, brothers, and nephews all like to shoot. We have family get together where going through a couple of hundred rounds each is normal.
@@scottwinkle5503you have a fully automated press or something? Lol. I have a friend who owns a company that manufacturers 9mm and he hasn't loaded half that many in his first 3 years of business (granted hes focussed on building the client base first)
One of your reloads musta went piff... or Whoooooomp! At least when I reload I know if I blow my face off its all my own doing. I dont even let my friends shoot my reloads... or is it that they dont want to shoot my reloads... or is it because i dont have friends? 😢
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It sounds like a lot of rounds, but when you divide it over the 45 years it is not that many per year. I have a Dillon 550b and a Hornady lnl AP with a case feeder so it is not difficult to load 250+ rounds per hour. Also, since my family members shoot the ammo they help buy the components. I actually enjoy the process of reloading. It beats the heck out of watching TV, lol.
Nothing bad has ever happened to a youtuber shooting mystery ammunition. Right?
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Well played bro.
At least no one from Kentucky at least.
As a reloader for many years, I will say this…typically, if someone has a cartridge that you can’t buy just anywhere (ie 6.5-300) you would think they should know what they are doing. But you never know
As a fellow reloader, there ain't no way in hell I'm shooting someone else's concoctions. As you know, there's FAR too many variables to ignore.
all my reloads have all the load data on them so it is known just what is in them and how much
@@peterg1448 amen to that. Whether they're in boxes, bags, whatever, every round I have is sorted by powder, charge weight, bullet, CBTO, and sometimes primer if I'm wanting to do a comparison (for 55 gr. Fmj range blasting ammo, not so much on primers).
I been reloading for 52 years? I cast my own bullets from 22 caliber upto 45 caliber and including 6mm :5 caliber 30 caliber 35 caliber both pistol and rifle caliber I use linatype or printers lead and tin as hardners? It’s been more fun than just reloading
Now even wheel weights are hard to come by
Back in the mid 60's, I got set up with an FFL, and while I was at it, I added a manufacturers license ! I thought I would reload and sell ammo. A lawyer friend told me I better get some good insurance, so I thought why not .Boy,!!!!was I surprised ! That kind of insurance would have cost me the equivalent per month as my house payment ! Needless to say, I've NEVER even loaned any of my own reloads to anyone. Hey fella,, you make interesting videos !!!
Shewee. Thanks for watching
Back in the 80’s I used to go to a local small store that only sold reloaded ammo.
Imagine that today.🤣🤣🤣🤣
Right before he closed up shop and was getting rid of his inventory he mentioned to me that insurance laws were kicking in and the cost was prohibitive.
I mostly just got cast 45acp ammo and occasionally 44 special.
I miss that place… shooting back then was dirt cheap.
Now I just cast and reload my own ammo.👍🥃
Feedback like your's is priceless! Thank you.
That barrel wont last long at those speeds😂
_Prepare Ship...Prepare Ship for Ludicrous Speed_
The only people that need to worry about barrel burn out are those shooting multiple boxes of ammo at the range. That is a hunting rifle and it should never be an issue .
@@alexmunn5321 That's only true if you are the typical, buy one box per year type. I shot out my 26 Nosler Xbolt in two years . Some people like to shoot their guns.
Don’t shoot it allot. That barrel won’t last.
We've gone to plaid!
The 6.5-300 is basically the hopped up Weatherby version of the .264 Winchester Magnum. It's got about a 200 fps advantage over the .264. When I was a kid my dad had a .264 and it was a shooting SOB!
264…almost to fast to kill quick. 😂
I've got a Savage chambered in .264WM, thems are some spicy bois! My reloads are pushing a 140gr Hornady SST at 3200 FPS, drops elk at 400 yards like flipping a light switch. .264WM is a terribly underrated cartridge, it's one of the flattest, hardest hitting guns I own. I can't think of a reason to want something that shoots any faster, 140 grains at 3200 FPS is insane...
6.5 prc is a 264 win mag on paper
I've lived by the Golden Rule: "If in doubt, throw it OUT!" This has served me and my critters very well in all things food, water (Source), clothing/equipment, and definitely regarding ammunition!
Dangerous things always find me choosing caution over curiosity.
Great video, and outstanding advice/perspective(s)!
Part of your problem is your sled is bouncing around and makes it hard to really get back on true. You need to load the sled down with a bunch of lead shot bags. It is called a lead sled after all lol. That will help alot.
When you get time contact the previous owner and ask him when the gun liked the best.
I agree I have boxes of Lead wheel weights I use on the sled
I had the same thought about the lead sled. I own one, but prefer my sand bags. My sled hangs out at my buddy's house now. I know where to find it if I need it.
Just ditch the lead sled, altogether.
Thanks for posting up the real results, even when you are disappointed with them. Not every rifle is under 1MOA no matter what ammo goes in it, I would hazard that at least half the rifles out in America will not shoot 1 MOA no matter the ammo or bench rest.
About 20 years ago I owned a Weatherby Vanguard in .30 06. Loved that rifle. Mysteriously disappeared from my father-in-law’s house when I got divorced.
Rule of thumb for all... remove any and all desired possessions from unsecured locations before splitting from "your mate for life"...
Should have reported it stolen, along with the serial number. That way, if/when it turned up, the thief might just end up buying a lawyer a new car on his own nickel.
If the brass ejects normal then its ok. Check the brass for flatened primer, splits or cracked brass which is a sign of high pressure. Appeared the brass came out easy, no problems. Weatherby says it all 👍👍
When I was watching the bullets they looked like they were going over 4000 fps. But I wasn't wearing my glasses
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I couldn’t see the bullet but I sure felt that recoil!😂
I also was watching those bullets and I can say those suckers were really zipping along (Technical Term for FAB) sure was glad I was wearing my Tin hat to get those precise FPS as they zipped down range.
Bwahahahahaha🙄
As a reloading rule never fire someone else’s reloads. That said you got a sub MOA group! Once you reload for this Hootey you are going to have one hell of a long range deer rifle! Thanks for sharing! 🙏
I was shooting factory Barnual 243. It seemed a little spicy and I wasn't paying attention for overpressure signs, because it was commercial factory ammo. Finally split a case and scored the chamber in my new Tikka.
Yikes
Was it Winchester ammo by chance?
Where did the case split at? If in the neck it could of been overly generous chamber dimensions (for that ammo) or just weak brass/steel in the cartridge. I've had some crappy brass split in the neck over the years but weren't inherently "hot" loaded rounds. Brass reused too many times will also do that, but this was new ammo you mentioned, so it shouldn't have been that.
@@Freezer003 Barnaul is steel cased Russian ammo. It's generally considered reasonable quality for what it is. With the current world situation it's a little rare to see now.
@@fishcars8078 It split about 1" long lengthwise right in the middle of the steel casing. It wasn't at the neck or head. Afterwards I looked at the other spent cartridges and the primers were badly flattened. The ammo was trying to tell me, I just failed to listen. That was my lesson.
Most people are pretty reasonable with reloading, maybe not precision, but safe. There are however those few that have no idea what they're doing and can end up blowing your face off. You probably have better than a 90% chance of it being fine... but you never know. It was definitely good that you checked OAL to get an idea first.
as long as its not that box you have been meaning to take apart because its too hot but haven't done yet
@@graybeard101 LOL yeah, not that one. Oops, did I use Red Dot instead of Retumbo? Shucks, well they both start with R...
If that was the case the guy probably wouldn't have pawned it
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Well said!
@@graybeard101 that stuff (a v. small qty of 45 Colt Ruger loads with way too much H110) is in a bowl on my workbench to be reprocessed.
I use the same chronograph, set it about 12 feet from the muzzle, pull the bolt and make sure while looking thru the barrel at your target from the action end of course, that your line of sight thru the barren is going thru the "window" created by the steel rods that the light shields mount on. I do this during load work up at100 yards, allows me to document velocities and SD and ES numbers in relationship to the groups. Helps to find that perfect balance of speed and accuracy with low deviation numbers. Been doing it for years, havent blown up the chrony yet! Great video! I also would have been like your friends...if you dont know who made the ammo and trust them with your life, dont shoot it! Glad it worked out for you, but i have seen revolvers turn into grenades when people dont follow safe loading practices.
Word of friendly advise, learn to read brass for pressure signs . Primer cratering, flattened primers, etc.
that's first thing I thought, if you insist on shooting it at least look at the primer after the first shot, and if its hard to extract.
There was one time it looked like the bolt was a little harder turning. That's when I would've started to get nervous to keep going.
Pull em apart and use the components -powder if you have doubts.
@@matthewbeaver5026yea I saw that too. Way too hot for sure.
Double check the action screws.
Even if they're tight you might have a bedding problem.
Also, cloudy days help those chronographs. It's the bright sunny days that makes them require the sun shield over the sensors and I noticed you only have one over the close sensor. It should have an identical one over the back sensor too.
If you have a case comparator measure one of the fired cases then the loaded cases to see how far the shoulders got pushed back during the reloading process. You may want to consider getting a belted magnum collet sizing die by Larry Willis. I believe you can come up with a lot better handloads.
I took 3 boxes of Hornady Whitetail hunting in South Africa, they had the same batch number. All three boxes had problems with the propellant, one round fell on the floor 40yds in front of the springbok I'd aimed at. Luckily my mate had some spare ammo and I could carry on hunting. Never used Whitetail since.
Buy a bullet puller. You will need it for the ammo you load too. If your testing different powder charges sooner or later you will load them too hot. Pull the bullets and reload them.
If you don’t have one already get yourself a bullet puller. Use it to disassemble the cartridges. Trash the powder, and I personally would deprime the brass and start with all “known” components. I wouldn’t even use the primers and I would measure the brass to verify the length is within specs. I personally would never trust unknown handloads. Good luck and be safe!
BTW if that chrono uses eddy currents, then all those stacked up body armors sitting next to it are interfering with it's readings: Lots of steel that is very susceptible to becoming magnetized. Eddy Current are a very faint alternating magnetic field FYI - the metal in the bullet interferes with the field, length of interference determines speed.
Saw that in a Star Trek Episode
thats an optical type it looks for the shadow of what passes over the sensers and counts the time it takes to cross the known distance between the 2 sensers the sky screens above them help disperse the light when outdoors so that direct sunlight does not over power the sensers too much
I absolutely love my 6.5-300's. I load my own ammo for them using the 127gr. Barnes LRX , Wby. Brass, Federal Gold Metal Match lg. mag. rifle primers, and Hodgdon US 869. Very efficient freezer filling machine.💯
Weatherby and their weird proprietary calibers. 🤪 A few of them are pretty doggone good, but most of them are made in the land of misfit toys. Weatherbys are like trophy wives - absolutely beautiful and make you feel all squishy inside, but at the end of the day, you just know that to keep and operate one, you're going to need a co-signer. 😉
Soooo true!
That's a gorgeous rifle, and a great choice for the optic.
I must agree with you KenBlack 💯, I would add this to my collection any day.
@@mikepoint4717I’ve got one in 308, you would not be disappointed. Incredibly smooth and a quality option.
The shadow of the bullet has to pass directly over the sensors in order to get accurate readings with that type of chronograph . Light coming in from the side is bad news and leads t to frustrating readings . Hope this helps . Cheers Adam
I would suggest checking the barrel bedding or the screw tension. That obviously can affect shot placement changes when the barrel warms.
My nephew had a vanguard in 22-250 and we could not get it to shoot at all with different ammo. It did not have a free floated barrel and we guess that may have been the reason. Beautiful gun though. Anyways, he sold it not long after.
You changed barrel harmonics from what the reloads were originally done for by putting your can on it. You'll need to redevelop your loads to the set up you intend to shoot. If you're not seeing pressure signs like flattened or cratered primers, heavy bolt lift, stuck cases or split cases they are fine to shoot. Get yourself the new Garmin chronograph. It's much better than what you are using and worth the investment. There is no way you're getting 4400 fps without blowing up your cases.
I had the exact same rifle.
Shot cloverleafs at 100yrds with the 127 gr. Factory ammo. It get hot real fast
I've been reloading for 55 years and there certain things that you must pay attention to. Always use published loading data, never start at the maximum load, do not substitute components, clean and check brass prior to loading, always load to published overall cartridge length, also published load data can be hot. I recently used Hodgdon load data to reload .360 Buckhammer. I started off 1.5 grains below maximum. The first rounds were sticky to extract with flattened primers. Signs of pressure. I decreased the powder by .5 grains and all problems went away and accuracy was great.
I wascgoing to say you should've pulled the pointy end off , add fresh powder...but nope ! You survived thankfully!
Thanks for another day at The world famous Heavy Metal Range WTW
sure knows how to cool a firearm quickly by opening the bolt, setting the gun upright, so the hot air traveling up the barrel draws much cooler air in the Breach and up the barrel cooling it to maximum efficiency. Wa Yea
Thanks for watching
Whoteewho give that thing a good scrub down to bare metal.The throat’s carbon up big time on those . Labradors are dirt cheap used since the new Garmin is out . I think you need one . Thanks for all you do
Years ago I was shooting my .357 revolver with a friend who also had a .357. He had bought some reloads from the local gun store, they came in a zip lock bag. After shooting a few I couldn’t seem to hit anything. I looked down the barrel and no rifling - the grooves were filled with soft lead. When I got home and cleaned the barrel with brass brushes I had a pile of lead that came out of the barrel, almost enough to mold another bullet.
When you bought that gun I was hoping that the barrel wasn't shot out! Anxious to see how it progresses.
Stay tuned
I use a Hy-skor remote- firing sled for such shenanigans. Love your spirit of adventure. Man that's SOME feedback (recoil)! 👍
Thanks for watching
My dad has been reloading for about 50 years and I have been reloading for about 25. We have never had a catastrophic failure. I know there have been some crazy reloading but most often I wouldn't be afraid to shoot rounds that come with a gun I am buying. If you are hesitant, just knock the bullets out and keep everything but the powder.
The best way for me to remember which direction to adjust a scope is to think of the turret like a screw. Tighten it and it (The Bullet) moves down, loosen it for up. Same for left and right.
Since you have the dies, pull the bullets, dump the powder(it makes decent fertilizer), and charge with your own powder. Whomever contacted you claiming to be the prior owner, might provide insight into the loads - primer, actual bullet description, etc.
Good luck.
So far seems like they knew what they were doing to me atleast 1 one thousandth of inch which in my eyes are close enough because that's just the length I'd more worried about diameter and weight
Fertilizer? Maybe if it was black powder. I'm not so sure about smokeless...
@@NelsonZAPTM nitrocellulose...nitrogen
@@NelsonZAPTMolder stuff wouldn’t worry about, but there are so many chemical treatments on modern powders to adjust burn rate that who knows what that stuff would do to your plants. The modern treated powders work amazing but it does raise other questions.
@@jaydunbar7538 I have an organic garden and orchard, I don't think gun powder of any kind is on the approved list 😉
Just a general rule of thumb, not necessarily for you, but for everyone who reads this comment. The only reloads you should ever trust are your own. It doesn't matter if it's from someone you know and trust with your life. Reloads can be dangerous, especially with high pressure rounds, and the worst part, your going to be hard pressed to be able to sue some random person who bought your reloads from compared to a actual ammunition manufacturer, who can actually pay off your medical expenses/funeral. Not only can you be injured or killed, but if it was a friend or relative who made those reloads, it will forever be on their conscious. TBH, I don't even recommend buying ammo from any company other than big name brands unless they are reputable and well known, and this is quite honestly, because if you need to sue for medical costs or such, Winchester won't go bankrupt, but some guy in a shed at 2am churning out .308 definitely can't. In general, other's reloads can be less reliable, less accurate, more dangerous, and not any cheaper than reputable brands. Why buy them then? To save a few cents per round? The only time you should ever buy reloads are if its incredibly cheap, and the only thing you should do with them is take em apart, inspect the brass, and reload them yourself. You can use the same powder if you are sure its the right kind, but I would rather just use my own powder. Seriously, you never know what kind of powder it is, how stable it is, and how old it is. Too many people have been injured or killed from pistol powder spiked rifle rounds, or rifle rounds packed with far too much powder.
I was reloading 357 for a 686-6. I followed the reloading from the bullet manufacturer EXACTLY. I was loading by volume but also checking each one by weight (it was a new to me powder HP-38). I loaded to the low and up to the max in small increments (it wasnt a big spread). The LOW one was really hot. Like not good. I went back home. Checked the load data against all the common load data sources... the LOW was EQUAL OR HIGHER than the HIGH than the amount listed on the bullet manufacturer page. So you can even make no mistakes and still get a surprise.
With Pro-Chrono Digital models use both sky screens or neither. I ended up using the powered LED option.
Been reloading for over 30 years. I would pull the heads, dump the powder and de-prime. Resize that brass, (weigh) the bullets to verify what you have, then load with new primer and powder.
DO NOT fire reloaded ammo from an unknown source!
Curious.... did u leave the ammo on the table in the sun while the gun cooled? That can impact pressure and ballistics and could explain the 1.8 cold vs .92 warm. Cold barrel warm ammo vs warm barrel warm ammo. And u should have chrono'd every shot
In the shade
I bought an Arkin EP-8 about a month ago and love it so far despite zeroing in a bit breezy conditions. Could have used that discount. Love clear glass and the reticle on it.
I used to have a 6.5 STW, The rifle was phenomenally accurate for the first 300 rounds then it started showing signs of throat erosion . With the bearing surface of the 6.5 bullet and the higher velocities I wouldn’t expect the barrel to have a very long serviceable lifespan.
Never buy ammo at a pawnshop
The pawn shops near me charge even more than the gun ranges, and often it's second-hand. Oof.
The pawn shop here sales new ammunition the only thing that is used is components for reloading
The pawnshops around here only sell factory ammo and when the other stores were sold out of ammo during the coof they had some
Never trust another person's reloads.
Been running almost this exact same rig for about 4 years now in 6.5 Creed, been a solid 3/4 min gun with pretty much everything I shoot. Three position safety, sako extractor, fluted barrel, 2-stage trigger, stock is pretty much garbage but for under a 1k, one of the best hunting rifles you can buy.
As long as the brass hasn’t been compromised…
The fired brass will be formed to your chamber.
That should help tighten up your groups providing that you find the right powder and bullet combination.
Nice gun. Cool video.💪👍🥃
That brass is worth a small fortune. Use a Hornady collet bullet puller with appropriate collet. Dump the powder in the flower garden as it’s good fertilizer. Reload working up from loading manual as usual. Best of my knowledge that cartridge isn’t just the fastest 6.5…..it’s simply the fastest of all calibers. Barrel life is probably about 800 shots and who knows how much it’s been shot already. I know the theory behind using a lead sled, but accuracy is thrown off with them. This video shows how much that sled moves upon firing. Sell that thing for scrap metal! Nice rifle though. I’d love that in a 6.5-284 Norma or 7PRC.
It's far from the fastest of all cartridges. The 6.5x300 Weatherby tops out at about 3600 fps. 220 swift can reach 4400 fps.
@@floridagunrat1625 You are correct, but it is the fastest of all 6.5 calibers. Also not many, if any, getting over 4,200 fps out of a 220 Swift.
That's a whole lotta BOOGIE 😬🎯
Absolutely
Reloads.. pull and use the powder as fertilizer then, resize (as it may have been neck sized) re-prime and reload. Only buy used hand loads if the cost is well below the component cost or VERY RARE.
Yes, it's interesting, but I'd have to check out a few things before I would buy one my self. And yes, be very aware of loads being too hot from a factory too!
I you can afford all those rifles, then you could surly afford a $100 crony. 😂
@@WHOTEEWHOhahaha! BS King! Can, bench rest. No chrony…
Maybe you could reach out to a manufacturer to review one. Couldn't hurt.
@WHOTEEWHO there's an old proverb: If you've never shot a chrony, then you have something to look forward too.
Never trust someone else reloading. Unless you know them very well.
I would absolutely use them because the recipe is there and they look very clean. Great job using the mic first. Definitely do that.
I like how you chase your up and down on your scope like I do. for years I was really lost in the sauce zeroing in scopes, thats until I got sled and Strelok Pro ....man that made my life easier!
I am just starting your video and my eyes and face just cringed when I realized what you were about to do. I have been reloading for 53 years… and if I did not load it… I pull the bullets and start over.
Don't throw the ammo away, pull the bullets, reuse the brass primers and bullets with a known powder and charge.
I had a thin barrel like that on a .308. Futzed with it for almost a year with different loads and scopes. After 4 shots the groups went all over the paper. Found out barrel was flexing. Got rid of the barrel for a heavier one and groups tightened right up.
I bought some reman ammo once during the planned Covid hysteria when ammo was scarce. Several primers failed with good strikes. Some were more powerful than others (I could easily hear the difference). Stopped after a few. Not blowing up my gun to save a few dollars.
Maybe you already know this, but measuring overall length is unreliable due to differences between where the points on spitzer bullets will be.
The best method is to use one of the tools (Hornady makes one, and Brownells sells one for multiple calibers that I have) that measure to the ogive.
I am sideways! haha never shoot someone elses loads.. you know why.... you can pull the bullets, def save the brass. you can weigh the powder if you wanna.
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If you know the powder used in the reload then you can disassemble a few, measure the load to published data, and if it is within spec I'd try a few. Otherwise, open them all, dump the powder on the lawn, neck size, and add new powder and the bullets yourself.
You can pull the bullets and check his listed weights on those and powder charges. Worse case you reload it all and save the cost of components. All we have in S. AL are whitetails. 6.5cm will take them at 600yds and that's a very rare shot.
If you're at a party with strangers would you trust what they rolled up?
Nope, smoke your own rolled treats!!! Same story bro! Only trust what you rolled yourself.
Grass or brass, it's all the same!
Kinetic bullet puller, junk the powder and reload to spec.
I bought 100rds of Federal Fusion 140gr 270, new in the box. they clame 3000f/sec. This they did, but they also produced far too much heat. Granted it was a hot day (over 100°), but it didn't take long before this ammo started popping out the primers and over heated the barrel.
Measuring the COL is a good start
Pull a fewvrounds apart and measure the powder and case length.
Then you will know!!!
My guess is lake city .308 reloads
To remember up and down just remember it'd like a screw, righty tighty equals down and lefty loosey is up.. on horizontal its righty tighty is left and lefty loosey is right.
Great rifle, hopefully it works out for you, I'd be interested in you taking one round of ammo apart and checking as to what is actually in it, measure the bullet and powder weights, maybe you'll even be able to identify what powder is in it and figure out if everything is safe. All the comments telling you not to shoot/trust that reloaded ammo are from your followers like me who care about your family and you, please stay safe
You can pull bullets with kenetic puller and pour out powder, use brass and primers.
Living life on the edge, I dig it!! Keep the videos coming bro!!
Thanks for watching
I have this exact same rifle & have had the best luck with the Weatherby 130 gr Scirrocco. It consistently shoots 3/4” groups for me.
Awesome
Of course C.O.L. really only matters to fit iin the magazine. I try to load my bullets to .020 off the rifling of my PRS rifle. and they are usually slightly longer than the recommended C.O.L. and I single load on a mag sled.
I have a Vanguard First Lite in 6.5x300, it would not group factory Weatherby ammo under 2.5 inches, not happy, I was told to contact Hendershots custom ammo in Maryland, after talking to him he loaded me some of his ammo, 143 ELD X's group 3/4 inch. I only use his ammo now for that rifle.
Good to hear. This one like weatherby ammo. Videos soon
I have the Meat Eater special edition that Sportsman Warehouse sells. It doesn’t like the factory Ammo either. I had it bedded in a Boyd’s stock but haven’t had the opportunity to try it out again. Hopefully it will do better than the junk plastic stock that Howa puts them in. I have the 127 grain Barnes and the 130 grain Scirroco factory ammunition
Looks like this configuration rifle (long pencil fluted barrel) is capable a one shot every hour. If you shoot faster group size goes worldwide. Great show WhoTeeWho!
I think the 6.5 wheatherby might be a touch ammo fussy. My 264 win can be. When you start reloading for it you might find the over all length to be a big factor and bullet weight and style. Should be a really fun project
This cartridge is a fine round. But you should look into the 6.5 Ackley improved. Ballistics equal too slightly better and less expensive to reload with correct powder loads. Form fitted brass 6.5 creedmore.
I reloaded my own ammo for .300winmag. I used Hornady Interterloks 150 grain, and I get .771 groups with them loads. I tried some other type of Hornady 150 grain that was not Interloks, but it doesn't shoot the same. That load is all over the place. Not consistent with Interloks. I would try some factory loads in that caliber.
Enjoy the videos always glad it worked out good with the ammo
Beautiful looking gun great show and thanks again for the info 😁😁😁👍👍👍👍
Considering the case volume of a 300wby, what could possibly go wrong if you loaded a really fast burning powder in a cartridge vs the slow burning powder which its recommended for? Yes, this ammo is expensive ($75-$120) , but so is an ER visit . Unlike an automobile, we dont come with replacement parts available at reasonable prices which are of the same quality or better than the original.
I get scared at my own reloads 😂 you’re wild!
hornady bullet puller for reloading press ie i use h1000 powder in 300 wb x 6.5 trim brass lath to some cases grow!
Stock up on US869, R33, and Retumbo powders. Great video bro!
Personally, the only handloadsI have ever shot that weren't my own, were those loaded by my sons while I was teaching them to reload. I have been reloading for well over 2 decades and learned from my father who taught me, and of course, he and I taught my 4 sons how to.
Have the same rifle in 6.5 PRC, it also likes being a little warm shooting Hornady 143 eldx.
The Weatherby Vanguard is pretty much a Howa 1500 with some extra gas vent holes in the bolt , that action should drop straight into an MDT Oryx chassis for a Howa long action , which should make at least some improvement in the difference between cold/warm groups , but I'm not entirely sure you will easily find a magazine with enough internal length . Maybe you could include that in your data collection and show us the results .
I have a lazzeroni war bird, pushing 212 ELDX at 3260fps out a 27 inch tube. Alway need a speed king, pushes 150g projectiles at near 3900fps judt for shits and giggles. It absolutely eats up the 212vldx with the load I have built up. Gun shoots consistent half minute with that load, no break and the rifle is a tick over 12lbs so it realllyyyyy talks to the shoulder lol.
I have 300 wbm in a encore that I am working on reloading different powders. If want something thst is a screamer shoot copper bullets. Suppose to be around 3800 125 grn copper out of 300, hadn't shot any thru monograph yet
Shewee
I picked up some ammo like that in a package deal before I just used kinetic bullet puller dropped the bullet out discarded the powdered and reloaded the brass with a known quantity of a known powder