Yamaha Live Custom Hybrid Oak Drum Set - In Depth Review
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- Опубликовано: 11 мар 2019
- We give our thoughts on Yamaha's new Live Custom Hybrid Oak line of drums.
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Paiste Signature Reflector Bell Ride Cymbal 22"
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Paiste Signature Dark Energy Hi Hat Cymbals 14" Mk I
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Paiste Signature Fast Crash Cymbal 20"
Paiste Signature Fast Crash Cymbal 18"
UFIP Extatic Ride Cymbal 22" Extra Light
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UFIP EST 1931 Crash Cymbal 19" - Demo Deal!
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Guys, you will destroy all my savings.
The bass drum kick is unreal! The best I’ve heard yet.
wow..after being a very loyal dw player, I am slowly learning that yamaha absolutely has their "stuff"together. This kit sound PHENOMENAL.
Great demo as well. thank yall
"absolute"ly lol! Nice...
Just listened to the Yamaha hybrids. The drums sounded amazing and yes that bass drum is just clear and so distinct. You guys are so good at what you do. Thank you for another great demo. Hope you’re all well !
Great, comprehensive review ... as per usual. Still marvel at my now discontinued Live Custom
man ,i hope you guys are having fun doing those test videos because, im having a blast watching them. That Yam sounds perfect.keep up the good work.
Thanks, Ian! It's hard work, but fun work.
This kit sounds amazing
I love how it sounds so good at different tunings. Seems like so many drums only sound good at 1 as certain tension
Amazing drumkit! Yamaha has definitely hit it out of the park with this one.
Both pitch sounds outstanding! Wow! Yamaha is Yamaha!
That's a gorgeous finish
I think I preferred the higher tuning. I've only ever played lower end Yamaha drums, but I've been impressed with them even with the entry level stuff.
Yeah, their entry-level kits are fantastic.
wonderful drums with really nice sound and great drummer
That floor Tom!!!!! Damn love the entire sound
Great vid Shane and a wonderful kit. Thx
Extremely impressed! They sound amazing!👍
ugh! BEAUTIFUL! great playing too mate 😘
I love those cymbals (Paiste)
That high tuning sounds absolutely amazing, and I think this finish is my favorite finish in Yamaha's catalogue. For those of us that have dreams of playing stadium shows, I think the projection from this kit would do very well in that setting. But for now I think I'll stick with my Stage Custom, and maybe a Tour Custom in the future; always loving what Yamaha puts out!!
Paiste + Yamaha LC = OMG perfect pair
always pleased when I see Yamaha as backline
I am new to the channel and I don't play drums. I just love music and sounds in general. This, for sure, is my favorite drum kit until now. Yamaha drums deserve more attention. And this Paiste cymbals, good Lord, amazingly good. Well done.
That's great to hear, Daniel! Thanks so much for watching our channel.
Wow, has the body of a DW and the brightness of a Sonor! And that bass drum 😍
Flawless review as always.
Thanks for watching, Edoardo!
Wow, I love everything about this kit, I had always liked Oak kits but never loved them, well this kit is a new animal. I am curious on how the weights in the kick drum work, obviously they reduce the resonance which is nice yet you would think that it would also reduce the volume. I play Tama Starclassic Bubingas and I love those but a lot of companies are stepping up their game, doing the science and there are so many uniquely designed amazing sounding kits out there now. When I first got my Tama Starclassic Maple I remember saying to myself I would never trade my kit for anything other then a DW, now every company has great sounding kits and a lot are Phenomenal. Now I just need to hit the lottery so I can buy them all. As usual great video, you guys are the best drum shop in the country, would love to visit one day.
Man you guys sure know how to throw a wrench 🔧 into my drum 🥁 purchase 🤔decision 😁 Wow these sound spectacular 😀
sounds great
Love that bell 🔔 on the UFIP ride; and emojis
Problem with Yamaha is all the kits are fantastic, sound great with high personality. I would like to buy all of them ! Thank's for this great video and nice job, the sound is perfect.
Thanks for watching!
At the lower tuning the 12" has a longer note and more pronounced pitch bend. It also sounds louder when listening to the overheads. I'm surprised that no one caught that.
Wow, sic sounds man. Great video.
Fantastic!
That kick is just a pure cannon. Somehow I always end up playing Mapex, but on a professional level this would be what i want to put on the stage :) Great video!
Can't say Yamaha bass drums don't put out anymore, that's for sure.
Sounds nice...
THANK YOU FOR USING UFIP it's so good to finally see someone using UFIP cymbals. There is no better Bell sound than a UFIP cymbal.
And this set at a low thuddy setting.... wow... and the bass. Best set.
Its paiste dude...
@@BlarpZarp The 2nd part of the video is with the UFIP cymbals.
@@markfuller2656 Yes didn't he watch the whole video??? UFIP'S are great!
Great sound
Best sounding drums! That bass drum is ridiculous, the Toms are clear and the snare has great crack and body. The kit Is both open and focused at the same time, weird but great mix.
Spot on! These really do have their own voice, which is hard to come by these days. Thanks for watching, Ceci!
i dont know about the rest you guys but man am i sold...on those cymbals, my god are they good.
Holy shit, that kick really does thump. Wow!
Just bought this exact kit. These are loud, as well as being everything commenters are saying. I traded in my original Custom Oaks, and my son has the Live Customs so I ‘ve done side by side comparison of the series, and you can hear the evolution from one to the next. The only thing I haven’t tried is the snare, but would love to play one.
The bass drum sounds awesome with the Evans Emad heads.
I also have the live custom, i wonder if it makes sense to make the ove for the oak hybrid, it's a lot of cash
Ian Touzel Hi Ian. I don’t know what your needs are. I mean if you’re playing gigs, or in the recording studio or just play for fun. Unless you have a need for that little extra bass drum power I really don’t think there is enough difference to make it worthwhile. I bought this kit because I wanted my last kit to be a good one. I only play for myself as I’m retired. I would have been happy with my sons live oak kit. It sounds great. He also has the Tama Starclassic Bubinga kit that he uses for gigs, the oak kit is permanently set up for practice sessions. At this level one kit sounds different from the other, but not necessarily better. Cheers.
Awesomeness
Gourgeous kit. Great sound.
My dream kit now
Really?
Nice BD sound!
My dream kit! Might be I sell all my 3 drum sets to get one of these beauties
It might be worth the trouble!
I can't wait to own a real Drumset like these all the drums I want can't afford them 😟 I hope soon. I really in love with these❤🥁🎶🎵
Sat in at a gig last week for a few songs and was blown away by this kit. I thought the BD was mic'd. Hmmm, it may be my next kit depending on how heavy that bd is. I am Not getting any younger : )
These sound beautiful. I hit them at a store and was blown away with the full rich sound. I have not lifted one of these bass drum. How much heavier are they with the weights. Are they feasible for a gigging drummer that does not have roadies.
uhm ... wow!! Really coming through on both tunings, ...impressive! Shane, ... gram weight on that Reflector Ride? Didn't realize how versatile that one was!
I am a newbie drummer and this is my first kit since november 2023. I had some problem with tom tuning. I prefer low tuning as metal drumming fan. But it has a lot of distortion on low tuning on flour toms. Now I get used to medium tuning. This bass drum was scarry me at first time. It sounds like explosion. It makes me to do a room treatment. And I put there the biggest pillow, that i have. Now my taste is changed and I switched the big pillow to plaid. And I realy enjoy this huge sound. Now it's like a museum. I invite my friends drumers to demonstrate this bass drum, because I know, that they never heared nothing like this. And they said "duuuude... my breast are stressing, when you kick it".
I just found out DCP is only a 2 hour drive from where I live so when I go to buy my next kit , which is gonna be a high end kit, I will be going to DCP to try and buy a new kit!!
We look forward to your visit, James! It will be worth the trip.
I was gonna go with Gretsch Renown. Now I think I want these...but I’ll have to add coated heads.
Same with the gretsch, but if it isn’t to late, GET THE YAMAHA
Excelente.
Beautiful kit. Is it a drum kit fit for live show touring?
Damn, I love Yamaha.
I like that they sell a shell pack minus the snare in case I wanna use something different...like a Recording Custom snare :D
Might be one of the best sounding kits I’ve ever heard! Now about that price!
Hold on, let me ask my wife!
Save yourself 2.5K and get a ludwig classic oak.
Amazing drum kit. I have the Live Customs and absolutely love them. These sound like mine except on steroids. Did you try them with coated heads by chance? Thanks for the great review.
We haven't, but we're guessing they'll sound better with Coated Ambassadors.
is the YES III comparable to Tama's Starcast mount system? I always loved Tama's mounting system for their toms.
"These were meant to played Live" Is probably true.. but Holy Cow do they ever mic up badass for recording! Just listened with headset. I'm in love. very impressive... Higher register AND lower.
Great review again, guys. Thank you. Can you please tell me...between this and the new Tama Starclassic Birch/Walnut, which do you think had a more open sound with more sustain? Which one did you feel had a sweeter sound?
The tamas are much closer to the sound you're describing than these Yamahas. The Live Customs have greater projection and more focus.
I play Tama Starclassic Bubingas and have played many different Tama kits in the past 19 years. Tama drums are legendary for their big open sound with great sustain and the Birch/Walnut kit definitely delivers that better, but this kit is killer. I play all sorts of hard heavy music along with pop, country and I would choose this kit over the Tama Starclassic B/W. The sound that every company is focusing on right now including Tama is a drum that delivers a focused, clear, controlled sound that also has attack, power and presence. In my opinion a drum that is super open tends to be loud and have good resonance but when their is not enough focus you loose that snap you hear when the stick strikes the head plus the resonance muddies up the sound when playing faster groves especially the kick drum hence the reason drummers have been using countless amounts of dampening techniques since the 60’s and every metal drummer uses triggers or effects when recording and playing live. Using foam, tape, or w/e on the drum head kills the attack or snap and hinders the whole sound. Proper tuning is the largest factor in making a drum sound good, it is an art and takes lots of practice to do it by ear but still drummers have to use heads with dampening systems. Now companies are building the kits so well that you no longer need to add much if anything to get that sound which is exactly the way it should be. I remember being blown away when I assembled my Tama SC Bubinga kit, it was easier to tune, the kick drum sounded insane, very powerful yet focused and I hadn’t even ported the head on the front side. I remember being sad when I finally did port it because I knew it would loose some attack but actually it wasn’t much and for dampening I use Evans EC1s with the smaller foam ring that’s it. Anyway, take your time, do some research try to find a drum shop where you can play both kits (I know that’s almost impossible) I did a lot of online listening when I put my current kit together, it really sucks stores don’t offer drummers a chance to play different kits. If I were rich I would open a place filled with all the different mid grade to high end kits + cymbals from every manufacturer and people could come in pay a fee for however long then they could pick any drum/cymbal combination their hearts desired, that would be heaven on Earth.
@@bcali7343 right on target...
Great review guys! Who loves the double bass more than
Shane??😜
I had a chance to play these in a drum shop in Chicago. Blew away me and the two other guys in the room (and it wasn't my drumming :). Really bold kit that sounds great. Your neighbors will hate you.
Love it. Does it come as a 4 pice?🙂
From that top view, the toms look positioned exactly how mine are.
how do they compare to noble cooley solid shell oak,from a players perspective?
Great videos guys ,i subscribed to your channel.just would like to ask if the bass drum on this video is empty or if you have put any pillow etc? thank you
Empty! Thanks for subscribing!
Any chance of a video comparison between the original Oak Custom, the Live Custom and the Live Custom Hybrid? Might be difficult given how long the original Oak series has been discontinued but keen to hear the difference between all 3 if possible!
We seriously considered this. We actually had a used Oak Custom in the shop, but it sold a few days before we started recording. We're also still waiting on a NOS Live Custom to arrive - but we wanted to get this review out before too many more people did.
You could always listen to some videos on my channel. I've been playing the original Oak Customs since the early 2000's. Hundreds of gigs and even more jams and rehearsals. People still tell how nice the kit. At jams they project over all the other kits. This sounds like an upgrade. I might have to update my stuff.
@@keithgreene79 oh I own a set of Oak Customs myself, they feature in a few of my RUclips videos too. I'm mainly keen to hear the differences between these kits in a controlled environment
that bass
I'm going to be taking delivery of one of these in the next couple of weeks.
I was going to get the kick reso ported but now I'm wondering if I should leave it as it is?
I have an oAk Custom kit. Does Yamaha sell the weights for the bass drum separately? I love my oAk Customs they have an almost gated quality which is so cool to me these sound very similar.
You're looking for the ZZ858400
parts-search.yamaha.co.jp/html/WIND_ENGLISH/orders/search_result_e.php?m=&p=&k=&bc=005&mc=005_098&sc=005_098_020
got them
Hi. Can i buy the weighted lug to put in my regular live custom?
I'd love to hear these with coated heads.
I love how the toms are very punchy without too much ring to them. Also, the bass drum is superb. However, I’m not too crazy about all the ringing coming from that snare because it makes it sound cheap as shit! A decent snare needs to have a sharp CRACK with NO RINGING to it! This is super important because the snare is the centerpiece of sound for any set of drums you might buy.
Some moongel solves that problem nicely. I know a lot of people want to keep drums wide open but sometimes you gotta help a drum out a little bit to achieve the best possible sonic characteristics. In a mic’d situation it pays to dampen the drums anyways regardless of your tuning preference or expertise. Most metal snare drums ring for days but the second you put a gel on them they crack way harder than any wood drum will. Just my 2 cents
I still dont understand how the weights change the low end of the drums, but they're doing something right. That kick sounds like a 24 or 26.
Nice think they’ll do a recording custom hybrid shell. Or just a birch hybrid shell next?
Man, a birch hybrid would be pretty cool!
tama starclassic or yahama live hybrid ?
shiitt this sounds awesome!
I own a set of custom live oaks and I totally love them , when I saw they revamped them I was like what ? I just bought these and they are great why did they redesign them ? It’s a bit like cars every 5 years or so the do a a new production offering to continue selling drums ! Are these the next great thing Depends what you like , i to be honest was a bit envious having just bought the old model and they come out with the next greatest thing , but after hearing them ? I’m very very happy with my last gen live custom oaks . The new ones look great , the bass drum does sound very good but I find the Toms too harsh compared to the bass drum , then when you tuned it higher the Toms sounded a bit nicer but then the bassdrum sounded too big for the higher tuning . I know guys , only my opinion but I can tell you these are not an improvement to the old generation imho. I think I’ll keep the old live oaks for years to come 👍🏻
Well the hybrids cost a lot more so if you’re happy with your tone, you saved a lot of money least.
Larry Tate the first part of the video says it all , fine furniture , I wanted great sounding drums not fine furniture , so that said yes I’m happy with the earlier version :-)
If anyone wondering the difference between this and the live custom. I have both. Same size. Same heads. The toms and the floor sound exactly the same. The reason they came up with the hybrid was that yamaha needed a reason to raise the price on the kit because their where losing money....And thats from yamaha themself.
Theres a difference in the low end of the bass drum. But common yamaha, put the weights for the lugs available for the live custom
I have a live custom huge kit, 8-10-12-14-16-18 -22 ask my local drumshop to buy the weight, told me not available, you need to buy the new drum..... yeah right... Yamaha, make them available, do it for the buyer . They will make money. And you are right, every live custom kit coming out of the factory cost Yamaha money someone told me it was just to make the poi t that the new factory in China could make good drums.
@@iantouzel638 You need to find a better drum dealer... You're looking for this: ZZ858400
parts-search.yamaha.co.jp/html/WIND_ENGLISH/orders/Product/Model/model_e.php?model_id=106452
where does this drum made from
Did you tune the bottom head up as well for the higher tuning? The floor tom in particular.
Thanks
scott morehouse Doesn't sound like he did to my ears, I guess its a personal taste thing but I would crank up the tom batters another turn for a more musical interval. Lovely work by Tom and I am totally with on loving the UFIP, I have played vintage ritmo hats for 20 years and just got a matching ride, gotta work on my jazz chops now.
Hello, would you please list for me the fast crush cymbals details?
How are those Yamaha kick pedals? I've been looking into them and I'm not finding many reviews of them out there, also it would be awesome to see more reviews of hardware and kick pedals from you guys!
Great idea! The video guy owns a 9500c and loves it!
@@drumcenternh awesome, ive been interested in the dfp9500d since i really like the feel of direct drive pedals and they run for a really reasonable price, plus i love the feel of the footboard from when i tried it on the chain drive version
Not sure if it helps but the 9500 direct drive has been my go to for years, prior to that a flying dragon DD pedal. I’ve used just about every pedal on the market and the Yamaha stays my favorite. The only other pedals I own/use are a Mapex falcon. Can’t say enough great things on the Yamaha. Prefer it to many more expensive pedals from Trick, Axis, DW, Pearl, etc.
@@spitfiredrums1294 Thanks for the input! Right now I'm between the yamahas and the pearl eliminators. Both very different pedals but both have excellent build quality and features so I'll just have to try and find out anywhere I can try them to make a decision
Hold off, Yamaha’s releasing a new kick ass pedal next month.
You had me at throw your back out
On a serious note (ahem)...how about this kit vs Tama Star Walnut in a shoot out; let's get buck wild and throw a SSC DW Collectors in the mix. All of these kicks made it tough for me decide. Probably no wrong answer at the end of the day...
My next kit is going to be these or the Recording Customs. Can anyone give me an idea of the difference in sound between the two kits? From the videos I've seen, it seems that the Live Custom Hybrid Oak kick is going to be have more punch and low end than the Recording Customs. Regarding the toms, the Hybrids seem to have a little less warmth, but more articulation and clarity than the Recording Customs. Any insight here would be greatly appreciated!
Yamaha stage custom , live Hybrid oak custom and recording custom are my favorites. :)
How heavy are the weights?
Now know why Paul bostaph left Tama for the Yamaha oak kit. Sounds great.
I've noticed in many drum demo videos that rack toms often have a clear note to them and the bigger one is lower than the smaller, but floor toms often have no note -- it's just a thud. You'd expect them to have another lower note than the bigger rack tom, but often they don't. Why is that? Is it because hanging them lets them resonate more than sitting them on a stand on the floor?
Lots and lots of contributing factors. But a lot of it comes down to the tuning. Often times when you tune something low, the sustain is shortened. Another thing to note is that in a recording situation, you really don't want a floor tom to sustain forever. It may sound good on it's own, but with the rest of the kit it can be very overbearing and it makes it hard to hear what else is going on. I hope this makes sense.
My floor toms resonate way longer than my hanging rack toms.
My Gretsch Usa Custom floor has a note!
Mmm phenolic 😋🤤
Are you sure they're not trying to emulate a kick drum with 22' by 14'?
Oak grain just crushes maple or birch. These drums sound like they own it.
@Drum Center: How would you compare these drums with the Tama Starclassic Walnut/Birch when it comes to tone, build quality and hardware? And just forget about the price difference for a moment ;)
The Live Customs have a little more volume, attack, tuning range, and the kick drum is the best, period. Tama toms have a little more natural bottom end, the hardware holds it's own, and the finish options are better. Build quality goes to Yamaha Live Custom. There...didn't mention price once! It was really hard, though.
@@drumcenternh and what IF you factor in price? Here in Germany the price difference isn't as harsh as it seems to be in the US, though...
I'm looking to upgrade my Pearl Vision in the foreseeable future and I'm searching for a kit that can gig and keep the long-haired guitarist busy, if you catch my drift. I'm not interested in the snare drums, just the shells and want a package that I still love to play in 10 or 15 years.
Thanks for your input!
@@tobiaswinter1358 The Tama Walnut Birch are more drums for the money, but if I wanted a kit that is going to be my main kit for 10-15 years it would be the Yamahas.
Hello drum centre . Need a suggestion , YAMAHA LIVE CUSTOM OR MAPEX SATURN V? ?? which one is best?? And which one suits for church ??
Live Custom is a higher end drum set, but might be a little loud for church.
@@drumcenternh thank you so much. Can TOUR CUSTOM replace MAPEX saturn v then ?? I mean is it better than saturn v ??
Why do you guys do the room mics and overheads? I don't understand what purpose that could possibly serve better than the full mix. I have always fast forwarded through those parts, and I always will. Just curious.
Many people also insist that the room mics are the best representation of the "un-eq'd" drum sound. Damned if we do, damned if we don't. That's why we do our best to please everyone - which is absolutely impossible when it comes to the RUclips comment section.
@@drumcenternh Aw, did I strike a nerve? LOL That's why I said, "Just curious." So you wouldn't be offended. Has it ever occurred to you that maybe you'd a way fewer complaints WITHOUT the silly room mics?
@@CraigFlowersMusic Not offended in the least. Just trying to answer your question. Thanks for taking the time to leave your valuable feedback.
Hey Tom, Bobby from San Diego California here. Just wanted to know if Jimmy Chamberlin was a big influence on you?
Hey Bobby. In all honesty, no, I never listened to much JC/Smashing Pumpkins over the years, but I know he's a great player, so thanks for inviting the comparison!
@@drumcenternh You both have such a fluid style, it's as if you're comfortably behind any kit is an extension of your limbs! For your own good, check out their 1st album "Gish", the song is
"Bury Me" . I hope you dig it. P.S. still saving up for a Tama Star Walnut 4pc- 8x12 RT 12x14 FT
14x20 K 6x14 Aluminum Starphonic snare. I've socked away about 1/2 of the cost, but my co pay for my Damm surgery might eat it up. I'm just stoked knowing you guys aren't going anywhere anytime soon so when I'm back I'll be able to grab it up right away. 🥁🤘
Loved everything but the high pitched pingy paiste ride. Sounded like an anvil.
Suggestion: When you demo a drum set, minimize playing the cymbals and non-included snare drum so we can hear more of the ACTUAL drums that are for sale. Like Sweetwater does.
Yamaha is boss!
I like the original live custom drums.The updates are cool but I don't understand they needed to up the price when its only like not that far away from a recording custom.
please do Tama!
Last week's video was Tama.
Toute une sonorité....c’est du yamaha