I have goosebumps from the part where the housewife says so eloquently that she wishes he would just be there sometimes. And she asks him how they can be connected when he doesn't tell her anything. That was powerful.
My Grandfather and his brothers were like that. There was trauma involved. They all had missing fingers, eyes, and limbs. I think they were trying to protect us. They wanted us to be sheltered from the way it was for them. Many of them thought that, in a sense, history had been won, and that we were to be the benefactors. It wasn't good or bad. They were simply mistaken.
@ja maguire She was just asking him to spend more time at home so she could feel like they were actually a couple. She says he's gone from 6 in the morning until midnight. She was asking him to drop some of the community/social things and just be at home with her and the kids. She can't do anything about work problems, but she's there to hear them. He SHOULD be telling her about outside community/social activities, as there'd be no reason not to tell your wife about the local WaterBuffalo meeting.
And the boomers did it. They formed the zeitgeist that is just now falling apart, the high paying job, big house and car and vacations and constantly upgrading those things to inform the world of your worth. They then went on to put that same idea into their children, Gen X, in a world where they had now raised the bar to attain those things even higher, but it was still doable but at a much much greater cost. Gen X then had to work 90 hours a week to afford the same life at double or triple the price. Now the millennial's are in a world where these things are still looked upon as markers of success but the bar to attain those is impossible to reach, yet still desired as we have a totally consumer culture now. I will just add, because this is the internet , this is a generalization, of course there are boomers who struggle and millennial's succeeding fine.
It's only prophetic if you don't see beyond the end of your nose. Identity has fueled every nation, and political movement throughout history. The only thing new in 1964 may have been attributing the consumerist term "product" to it.
@@telequacker-9529 Well I would say something different was starting then, and that being capitalist mass markets. In the pre-capitalist days, most people mostly made their own stuff. If something required a very high level of specialized skill, it was generally made by artisans who were working in small workplaces, often on their own. They did not have the time, money nor manpower needed to consider how they would advertise their product beyond the personal relationship with their costumers. They couldn't insert a corporate created aesthetic into it.
@@CandidZulu Yes, but the 50s and 60s was when it really took top gear. The great depression mostly destroyed the niche consumer markets that are needed to profit off of building in niche identity and personality into products. Teenagers didn't have the money to buy stuff they wanted because they didn't have jobs. WWII made the economy totally focused on the war effort, so it wasn't until the 50s and 60s and sixties that this could really start to take hold.
“we feel that they are going to find their identity through consumption.” That was, for better or worse, a very prophetic statement. But with that consumption came debt, both personally and nationally.
I never realized how compulsive consumption was amongst my generation until i found out people were buying red rubber to put on their shoes to pretend to have those Louboutin shoes. All for the label. To be identified as a well off person when they were not. Playing a role. It was sad.
I think people that lived through poverty and war rationing had a different attitude vs those with plenty but now many want to downsize again reduce reuse recycle etc. so priorities are changing for some again just for economic and environmental reasons. The hippies of the era didn't want that either they wanted communal living and organic gardening and travelling etc. you can't sell certain lifestyles to everyone.
I don't know if anybody else noticed, but there was a girl in the beatnik group that got cut off every time she tried to say something. I really wanted to hear whatever point she was trying to make. Especially the 1st one about how it wasn't cool to be square, I wanted to know where she was going with that. I hate it when people run over someone when they're talking!
@@kevinmathewson4272 I totally caught that. Although I did appreciate the dude who said that the system serves a certain group of people. That has not changed.
I searched the comments to see if anyone else noticed that. People need to keep in mind that this generation is still in power. They really never turned it over to GenX. So, that same way of discounting someone who doesn't just agree to the group think is practiced today in general society and politics. It was sad to see her so blatantly ignored, as though what she could have said didn't matter at all. : ( "You become the very system itself" .... and they did. This same group that completely ignored what this girl had to say.
Fascinating! I was born in 1964. The interaction between the husband and wife is interesting because I can imagine there was a divorce in their future based on her feelings of loneliness and isolation. Just my observation.
I too was thinking they would be divorced by the mid 70's, which was a bit like an epidemic at the time... But the way they each built their lives, together and separate, was very typical of the families in the burbs at that time. Soon the father becomes detached from his wife and kids. The wife has no idea how to hold the family together bcuz basically she's doing it all alone anyway, there is no "together". By the time the kids hit puberty, both mother and father have no idea what is happening emotionally with their own children. Equally they don't know how to talk with the children about any problems they may be having. Which means the model of how to know how to talk about problems trickles down to the kids. Rebellion comes naturally for teens, and without parents to talk with, or lead them thru turbulence, it's quite easy to see the result coming to a head in the late 60's and all thru the 70's. That conversation with the married couple summed up the disconnect so very well.
If you think that’s how men and women should be in a marriage- emotionally disconnected -- then I wish you a lifetime of loneliness, instead of spreading your insanity on family.
To hear them state that their main problem is that they don't know what to pick out of all the amazing options they have is quite incredible as opposed to the times we live when young people feel so limited.
I don't feel limited. I truly feel like I can do almost anything I want because there are so many more resources today. I really believe that if a young person feels limited, it's their own doing.
@@hvllxwxxn In general, young people are nowadays presented with more options and resources than ever before, so I also disagree with Robin. But, poverty exists and it's a huge limiting factor for a ton of people. If a young and poor person feels limited, it's not their own doing. So I disagree with you as well :D
Yeah as someone who has been struggling since before I hit adult hood I have to agree with Robin. We are limited now but its because if the financial issues, we can't just do what we want we can't pick something to do because we like it we have to pick our futures based on just trying to survive. It's honestly sad and disheartening. Most of us feel we will never get to where our parents got. We feel we won't ever retire and we will work and work until we drop dead on the job. All while not making enough to afford to live. We work so hard and get very little back from it. I wish i was burdened by having all these choices and power over my own future.
@@exon5336 I’m not saying you’re wrong and I’m right but I do disagree with you. I think at a certain point you can no longer use those excuses. My mom was 18 and single when she had me and we lived in a trailer park. My first job was construction worker (unskilled labor) and it sucked. But I kept working my way up to better jobs. And then finally I started my career. I’ve always made more money than my mom and helped support us both. Never went to college. The opportunities are there whether you’re taking advantage of them or not. It’s not impossible to work your way up from any point. This is without any government assistance or welfare or child support or anything like that. Just me and my mom working our way up.
Love these videos. My parents were teenagers in 1964 and now they are grandparents in their 70s...it’s crazy how quickly the years go by. What a different world we live in these days.
I drove friends to a Hendrix concert in '68. The philosophy among those of us who are still here, "If you remember the 60s, you weren't there!" Great film!!
I was 9 in '64. Had trouble in Catholic school, and was switched over to public school. The church didn't like divorced parents back then... a big no no.
It sounds similar to my experience, although I was only 1 year old in '64. Growing up in the Deep South, attending non-parochial private school, as a child of divorce, at age 10, I felt very different and somewhat ostracized. It was, indeed, a stigma. At age 14, I made the switch to public school, where I made close friends with many who didn't share my skin color. While there possibly could've been some trauma bonding there, I'm grateful to have experienced both environments, as I believe it helped me develop invaluable people skills. 😎😍
If you examine criminals, you’ll find most come from single parent homes. I’m not saying it’s impossible to be raised by one parent and be extremely successful, but it’s not the norm.
@@ranz2355 Actually, multiple longitudinal psychological studies have shown that only one significant caregiver is necessary to raise a child who has a stable sense of wellbeing...and 'successful' by societal standards.
@@ranz2355 you are correct. Fortunately, due to varied, unique situations and dynamics, I know I was the exception in being high functioning and relatively successful. On the other hand, I am quite typical with the mental disorders and failed relationships due to the dysfunction of divorce. One example is choosing a career over having children. My original response might have been convoluted, and I should’ve stressed that my appreciation was strictly for being able to experience both private and public school. My preference is that divorce would be a difficult option, resorted to only in situations of abuse, versus being the norm and such a selfish, easy way out. Make it work until your children are over age 18.
I was 14 in 1964. Saw the Beatles in concert. Lived thru the Kennedy assassination in Dallas. School and having a good time were my main goal. These were good times.
@@loganroark3916 The unrest about Viet Nam comes to mind. It was on the News every night. Then the deaths of Dr King and Robert Kennedy. The strides made for minorities and women. Lots of good memories of coming of age. A lot of history was made in the 60’s and 70’s.
Never thought so many in my generation would become theIr parents. What is really shocking is so many went from wanting to save the world to wanting to buy it. I was 11 and am in shock at where we are now
Good thing they went away from "change the world." Otherwise it would be like Russia or China, where they did change the world, and made it much worse. And they didn't buy the world either. They might've been arrogant when this was made, but with time they grew less humble and accepted just living in the world.
I really liked what the girl on the beach said, about people being concerned about how things effect them instead of finding a solution. Then the beat nick kids in sunglasses, i wish people could listen and talk to each othet like that again. They remind me of Bob Dylan and that time in our history when he was young. And then the woman at the end. That was great, how she told her husband how she felt about not feeling close to him. You never saw that on leave it to beaver or the patty Duke show. They always paint a certain picture of what it was like back then. But i guess sit coms do that no matter what generation or decade you watch.
@@fpopee true. Definitely the kettle calling the pot black when it comes to democrats calling Republicans fascists. Still wish people talked the same way now. Everythings so dulled down
I agree with your statement about the girl on the beach. She really did articulate the feelings of her peers very well. I felt like she was saying about her generation what young people say now about the climate crisis in relation to the "Boomers." Young people don't feel like the older generations care about what happens in the future because they won't be alive then. I think the family having the picnic countered that nicely though. Those parents do really care about their children and their children's futures, but they only have a limited influence on their lives, since they are also being influenced by their peers and the people they meet at school and during their very many extracurriculars. It makes me appreciate my parents and the work they did raising my sisters and me. However, I don't agree with your reaction to the Beatnik kids. They seemed like poseurs to me. They talked a good talk, but they mentioned "the white man power establishment" and didn't let the girls in their group have anything to say; moreover, there was not a person of color among them. They can pooh pooh society as much as they want, but unless they get up and make a change, sitting around talking about it doesn't do much good. I also agree with the comment below about Bob Dylan. He was very much the voice of his generation, like you mention @Darci, but unfortunately, he proved to be pretty selfish. He talked the talk but didn't want to walk the walk either. He rejected the label that people gave him, which it is his right to do, but then why bother to bring attention to all of the civil rights issues if he didn't want to be affiliated with the movements trying to change things? Why write antiwar songs if you don't care about the wars taking place? Bob Dylan is an enigma who has carefully constructed an image of rebellion, but whether or not he really believes in what he sings about is only known by him. I also agree with your comment on the couple at the end. It's so sad to hear their conversation. I don't know what the man was doing; some people have commented he was probably a philanderer, but I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he was working long hours and then involved in projects and community service. He thought he was being a responsible man -- looking out financially for his family and taking on the work of his neighborhood. Unfortunately, his idea of being responsible was different from hers. She felt neglected and lonely, and rightfully so. There is just so much you can take from these interviews and these clips. It's incredible! Thank you @David Hoffman for your videos! 💜
They can see it. They are boomers they likely aren't dead yet. (At least not from old age.) My mom and dad were 14 and 16 in 1964 they're still kicking in their mid to late 70s.
@@juangal7569 No, it was a young married couple. Your question makes sense though. In general around this time period, young married couples power in relationships was not very equal. The husband was a bit of a surrogate father, and the wife was supposed to behave, and "obey" her husband. In this short clip, she was explaining her feelings thoughtfully to her (emotionally) neglectful husband. This was the beginning of the women's movement in the early 60's.
@@cici7333 funny the woman’s movement did the same thing the welfare state did trick men and woman that they didn’t need each other for a healthy family. They always trick us to beg for our own demise or shackles and now society has reconditioned to need two incomes so it was all for a double loss
Love how one of the teens said something about how important it is to form your own ideals or else you'll take anything. It reminds me of the saying "Come up with a plan for what you want to do with your life or you'll be made into a part in someone else's plan. Idk I believe This is the same shit that's eating up the west atm.
I feel like the men carried themselves with a lot more class back then, even the way they stood, broad shouldered and their hands in their pockets. Rare to see that today.
@@qm421 I feel like that’s just not true. Just kidding. Would you say it’s the men’s fault for conforming to these politically correct rules or the fault of those women (and men) who made these rules
I really can't say that I have see much class around my parts lately and pants down to their knees just doesn't make it for me. I know a ton of good parents and no fault of these parents that their kids are what they are. I have many school chums that went another way.
What a big difference from the 60s to now! Children are so spoiled in today society! And as for the communication with kids and parents I feel more are more technology is here and Kids are glued to their phones and Kindles and don't want to hear you. That we need to always find a way to listen to them and communicate with them. At the same time there is so much knowledge to learn from the computer. Parents need to make sure their children have dreams and goals the bigger the dream the more you want to accomplish! David I could just imagine from now to even 10 more years how different life will be for them. David Thank you so much for all your hard work you do for us your viewers! I just love and enjoy your videos!
In 1968 I applied to the more competitive University of Vietnam and was accepted. I was then offered a semester abroad in Moscow, USSR. But it didn't align with my personal interests. Instead I accepted a leadership position in the Vietnamese People's Army (VPA). Travelling south at night through the jungle I only carried a AK-47 rifle and a 25 kilo bag of rice. Overhead American B-52's bombed our regiment killing nearly everyone. I'm glad to have experienced so much more than than my frat brothers at Cornell.
@@jchow5966 It's a sarcastic comment. American teenagers were so entitled in the 1960's. My three older brothers avoided Vietnam by enrolling at University at Buffalo. My nieces and nephews have attend University of Rochester, Yale, Harvard and Cornell. They never even considered enlisting in the US military. If you were a child born in Vietnam you had no choice but the fight the French then the Americans. You were dead as soon as you could fire a weapon.. Each communist soldier was given only enough rice to survive the march south. You weren't coming home.
If you don't have a rich daddy who can hand a briefcase of cash to a fake "doctor" to falsely write "bone spurs" on a piece of paper and millions of people enslaved to this total no limits at-all-costs self-serving narcissism pyramid scheme burden shifting theft from the Americans not born into money
I graduated high school in '84, and college in '88. And I feel that these young adults from the early '60's seem more similar to my generation than young adults in the '70s do.
I was two years old in 64 . The president just had his head blown off in broad daylight, the Beatles just came on the scene and Viet Nam was about to blow up, I’m so lucky to have survived the 70s and early 80s . Today 32 years clean and sober and a Whole Foods, plant based eater. RUclips literally saved my life
Hey old guy 😉 your comment got my attention, as I was one year old in ‘64. While seemingly high functioning, I’ve struggled with various substance abuse and binge eating my entire adult life. I just subbed to your channel. Congratulations on finding your way.
There is no way that husband at the end spent all his days at the office and then committed himself to community service until 12-1 am every night. I’m curious if the wife knew or if she truly was that naïve.....
I kind of get the feeling that she knew but really didn’t want to know either. But she would she would use it as a passive-aggressive ploy to guilt the husband. But he wasn’t budging (bulging veins and all every time she mentions his “community activities”). I get the feeling she likes to bring up her husband’s “community activities” schedule at social gatherings after mama’s second G&T. “Hal, honey. (He strikes me as a Hal) Tell everyone about your community activities that keep you out until 1am every night. Sometimes later...Tell everyone about all your hard work for the community at all hours of the night.” At least that is the impression I get.
Everybody was unsure at that time, and most were afraid, especially about the Cold War. Fear is often transformed into anger, because anger feels safer than fear. The generation gap...and lifestyle were hugely different, and neither parent or child had any idea regarding the thoughts, emotions, or driving force behind the other. The baby boomers could not imagine what their parents experienced in the depression and WWII, and the parents were still too wounded to talk about it in real terms. The last couple explains with perfect clarity why the massive use of mood altering medications became “Mother’s little helper” for a goodly number of years. Great bit of comparison, I enjoyed it...thanks.🖤🇨🇦
5:02 WOW this whole speech about defining your identity through consumption was really something! I have watched another video discussing that the boomer generation was the first one fortunate enough to be raised given so much compared to previous generations before them. It makes it easier to understand this "attainment" ladder that was then formed by that generation. Not everyone, but most, and it then went on to define everything, get a good job, buy a house and a nice car, upgrade those things often, big vacations, and on and on. It also make is easier to understand the "hippies" of that generation rebelling against these ideas. So interesting!
Another thing that I think people missed was the statement about people looking at what is best for them and not for society. I think older people look at their 20's when they bought a house, car and was fully independent. They don't realize that the factory job doesn't exist and if it does the job pays 15 to start and requires an associate's degree. Most young people are not even that lucky and are making less than that.
I am a late boomer. I remember my dads generation, known as the silent generation, buying a new car about every 3 to 5 yrs. That was a symbol of success. People would brag and show off. Yet we lived in a very small modest home. Ive had new cars, but yet I dont like to brag or show off like that.
We really are so lucky for these uploads....they really help contextualize/ understand todays society...the good and the bad-- The importance of feminism especially...the woman at the end was SO articulate explaining her needs and feelings.
She wanted to be closer to her husband and have his presence felt more in the home. I don't see how that shows a need for feminism. That would exacerbate her problems.
@@reroha I think anyone with half a brain cell can see that there's a gulf of distinction between feminism (empowerment) and misandry (dominance). To be brutally honest we see the same transition from demanding equality to establishing a boot on the neck in every variety of identity politics from gay rights to trans-evangelicalism.
This is me and my wife, sadly it's me trying to talk to her most often. I lived a really rough life so learned to be open all the time but we are going on 11 years now loving each other just sometimes she doesn't talk or open up much but I still love her always. Sorry for rambling on...
Always interesting to hear the young generation of the day talk about their situations. Nothing really different about that other than the specific things with which they deal. The film begins with choices and how that was a challenge for these youth. Going to a party and not telling your parents everything that went on is timeless. The idea of being detached from materialism to find yourself is an interesting comment. That things end if you achieve things to their fullest is philosophical or perhaps an excuse. Finding out your something is very relevant today except now it's call it finding your why and your passion. The casualness thing seemed very new for these youth compared to earlier generations. The idea of going to the best college seems so typical for the 60s and 70s. Although going to the "best" college makes a difference, it's not the right thing for everyone. Marketing apparently had already begun to get sophisticated as reflected by the one person mentioning creating product identity. The "rap" session reflected how very little was really said and those sessions seemed to be more of a casual hangout to kill time and be social. But the one fellow's comment about forming a new society seemed serious. The observation that was made of parent's declining influence on their kids' choices is certainly true when the kids become a certain age, which points to the need for parents to have solid involvement early on. Nowadays by the time a kid enters middle school they are bombarded with so much other "stuff" that strong, effective parenting early on is so critical nowadays. The end seems to be a great example of probably why divorce rates soared. I read back then many couples experimented with open marriages, which probably was a reflection of the new found social freedoms that people had.
The milkman’s truck at 4:50 brought me right back to this time period. My childhood milkman was named Gus. He brought the glass milk bottles right into the kitchen where my mom would be having her breakfast coffee. Real milk, with the heavy cream on top.
This video is a Piñata of Emotions for ALL who have experienced these times or heard other Family members talk about The '60's! I'm hoping that a few of these people who were in this film are in fact Members of The Hoffman Community and chime in with their own recollections! That would be So Groovy! Cheers From Ohio
Sooo, did you sell out to the corporate “man” when you got older? Just curious. Were the sentiments in this film the same across country? Also, these seem like college kids, not high school (out until 1:30 am?)
I was a freshman in 64. Yep, I'm 70. I like the kids nowdays. Very smart, funny and talented. I am getting my karma for calling old folk slower than turtles.
I'm not shocked, haven't seen any teens since 2019. No, the pants around the knees thing I find odd. But as an early 70s teen, I ain't shook by much. I too had my fun!
Teen's culture always been full of rebels, I thought this channel would be the last place where I would see stupid arguments like this where people compare how there were "better people" in the good ol days
I was a ‘65 graduate but my family didn’t have money for college so one year later I was in Viet Nam. Between the GI Bill & grant money for cops I was able to get my degree, but it took over 7 years while working nights & going to court during the day. I’m not complaining, we all made it the best we could and I’m happy to be a proud/retired grandpa w/the time to enjoy my family.
@RX73f o3 newer gens are definitely brain washed dude. All bc they can take in more information than older generations doesnt mean they’re any smarter. In fact, i think it makes newer generations stupider.
David, I truly appreciate your work and your channel. It's a time machine and we're incredibly lucky to get to take these rides back with you. I was born in '76, so it's wonderful to see people and perspectives that came before me from everyday people who I can still relate to in such a candid way. Thank you so much.
I wanted to play Bob Dylan's "Subterranean Homesick Blues," at my graduation commencement. Everything I've ever needed (or wanted) to know about life is in the lyrics of that tune. I'm with the two surfniks as they discuss what's coming at them in life. Thanks David Hoffman.
This is the type of ethnographic work I love to see. The type that gains currency through the passage of time. It's the type of work that we still need today. The immediate payoff is not apparent because it is a culture or group of cultures that we not only immediately experience but ones that are almost too near, existentially, to analyze. Our progeny, however, will likely find it fascinating and it will be the one of the few ways in which they can experience our present.
Honestly, this is so insightful. I spent a majority of my time with my grandparents (I’m 28 years old) growing up so I kind of understood the stuff they had to go through. But this is so interesting because it genuinely shows the kind of interesting aspects of what it was probably like for them. They grew up in the poor and rural south, so things probably weren’t as open minded to anything that didn’t fir their definition of “normality”. My grandmother was widowed when my grandfather was killed in Korea serving overseas by a drunk bus driver in the 1970’s. They look so happy and even in a time of fighting for civil rights, wars and a change from what was originally believed to be normal.. Honestly, there’s no telling how many couples stayed together until the very end in an unhappy marriage just to avoid social ridicule or financial hardship. It seems so lonely to be in that situation. I sure hope that regardless, they eventually found some form of happiness. I can’t help but feel a twinge sad because there’s so much that I want to know about their lives and where they went on to be. How many of them had their lives cut short due to a horrible war. Growing up in the south you can still see the scars of the past from that time. Buildings that once seemed so grand then are dilapidated and boarded up or only a crumbling foundation of what once was. People tend to romanticize this time- but, fail to realize what all was actually going on. I suppose I’m very lucky to be alive in this crazy time and to have people like my grandparents who understood what it was like to just want to get away and be themselves. Nana is happy where she is. She’s got family, her garden and her great grandkids. It genuinely makes you appreciate the impact that they had on helping us get here. Where as it hasn’t been all great, they were like millennials are now- hopeful for change and growth. We’re running out of time to experience their stories and hear it from them. It wasn’t always great and exciting- but the older one gets you kind of can’t help but just enjoy the little things. I genuinely enjoy these videos. Thank you for sharing this!
Perhaps you mean more human because people are interacting and not starring at a screen? I do think the digital age has dehumanized us and has lead to less life and flourishing
@@alyssamaria4850 tf do you mean, before the pandemic people regularly interacted with each other face to face. We're just as human as our grandparents, the only difference is that we have technology that makes our lives more convenient. Enough with the "good old days" bullshit.
Stand for something or you'll fall for anything, rings true now more than ever. Used to be door-to-door salesmen, now no one comes to your door because they've all got access to you electronically. Progress is a double-edged sword.
I was -17 in 1964, Born in 1981. however everyone seems to have a better vocabulary, and spoke decently with each other, whether or not they agreed with each other... and I admire that, and I kind of wish that we had that now. 2021..... please take note, and learn from there example...
Just goes to show that teenagers can be a combination of obnoxious and genuinely insightful no matter the generation! Things definitely feel more high anxiety and high-stakes for current teenagers. I wonder how that will change in the future.
I love these windows into the past. A big fan of captured moments and the celebration of people that I see in your videos. Thanks for sharing these things and creations that were formed and collected through your own passion and interest. Peace.
No they are still goofy…. they just dress like their parents 😂 because the Individualism of the 60’s was just taking hold if David did this same interview with kids the exact same age just 4 years later 1968 they would look totally different…..even here you can see when the beatniks started to differentiate themselves from their peers in dress, attitude, etc….
They appear older because the youth culture was brand new - They still looked up to and took inspiration from adults. Holden Caulfield was cool because he acted like an adult. After the youth culture was established, young people started comparing themselves more to their peers. Today they look up to popstars and instagram people. Old people just aren't interesting to them, you probably know the feeling. I think it's great, honestly. We won't get anywhere by staying in the same place. Edit: J.D Salinger was 25 when he published Catcher in the Rye, he was a seasoned adult at that time. People left school earlier, moved out earlier back then. My dad was on his own when he was 16, that was in 1961.
Not only that, they possess a much higher level of verbal communication. Their vocabulary exceeds even many adults today in addition to the youth. These people must have spent many, many hours simply talking and thinking about things. Today, that time is spent on a device. Verbal communication is at an all time low among people these days.
@@buckrogers6378 They read a lot. Reading was cool, and you could really define yourself by which kinds of books you read. So they knew a lot of words, and they spoke like authors, like people on the radio and the movies, because that was cool. If you read my previous comment, I mentioned the youth culture. Kids today speak like kids on TV, they speak like their peers. They make up their own words, their own trends. The cats a few years after this footage started speaking groovy, just like the other people who let their hair down. Old people just weren't "cool" anymore, you dig?
It’s so interesting watching them talk as actual people. They’re naturally flowing through a natural and real conversation, and seeing it actually gives me real perspective and a connection to them. I can actually relate to them and see them as people, not through stories and hindsight. Or even the most descriptive documentary without real footage like this
Videos like this one and others on this channel really give me some insight into the lives of my parents and grandparents. I really appreciate that. They’re no longer around to ask questions about their youth. This really helps me feel like I understand their perspectives a bit better. Thank you for that.
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I consider myself somewhat well spoken but find myself cussing too much, and it probably does make me sound dumber than I am haha. People could actually form complete sentences, and talked slower usually and thought about what they said.
1964 my only concern what branch of the military to join. 1966 I took test for Air Force,Navy reserve,but ended up going into the U.S.Army for 3 yrs. I told my Mom I was going into the Marines 'no not the Marines you'll have a better chance in the Army.' We had the best music,my parents were awesome & miss them much.
@@gemini6828 I wanted to be a helicopter gunner till I saw a friend hurt when his helicopter was shot down. We were in Vietnam Jan '67 'till Dec '67 but I did not see him after July of '67. Hope he made home. I am proud of your sons. Thx your sons for me,my prayers for them.
Only possible in the last 20 or maybe 30 some years. Perhaps not even that cuz of the limited footage and ability to re-record and remaster as compared to today. Imagine the people living 500 to a 1000 years from now, should we survive ( I hope so)and this kind of stuff manages to be preserved. Thank you for being a pioneer. How I would love to glimpse the turn of the century, to see the people that could be my grandparents in a film that is not a fiction but more everyday life and the attitudes and thought processes held, let alone those of a 1000 years ago or more ! I must admit I am slightly envious even of this, although photos have their own charm and magic. I remember the show "Here Come the 70's" as a kid and was fascinated. Born in 61. Wow time flies.
One thing I noticed right off the bat,is in 1964 people sat closer to each other in social settings whether on the floor or chairs,etc...we are more distant than ever now...even before the pandemic.....the internet connects us,but keeps us far apart at the same time.
Thank you for the 60 and 70s era interviews. Helps me understand my father much more. A sad generation, some of which ended up broken beyond repair unfortunately.
That one couple at the dinner table, OMG! She said, "I don't know anything about your life from when you leave leave for work at 6:30am until you get home at 12:00-1:00am!" What the actual hell? She blames it on all his "community activities!" Only if his community activities included having another woman or man (more than likely) on the side. I hope she woke up and divorced his sneaky hind end!
Very interesting. I was maybe a year old baby when this was filmed. The youth were still very respectful but they were all seeking something deeper while still having a good time doing it. My parents grew up in St Louis Missouri and their parents were all from the south so it's interesting seeing the "Northern perspective and experience" of the time. My grandparents weren't so frank with my parents.
Love this. I feel like people of today are not much different than people back then. I, and many people I know, have had that exact same conversation with their significant others as the couple in the end of this video. A lot of people in this video say things I’ve heard many people today say. (I’m 33, not that it matters).
Piano interesting to watch. I truly enjoyed that Johnny the husband maybe doing community service from 6 in the morning till midnight. But I don't think it's just community service working. Maybe her name is community is she performing a service. LOL
This seems to be a story old as time. Parent and child not understanding each other. The funny thing is this will never be solved because their will always be a parent who has the luxury of experience and the child has the luxury of free spirit and youth. The kids on this are now in the parent roll. It would be interesting to see these people now and see what they think now. I love having a real glimpse in the past. Especially when you get a true peak at life real life!!
I was born in 1949. Our husbands on average expected us to go out to work but never helped with the kids, housework, shopping, cooking, kids homework etc. I had to be supermom - my husband played sport over weekends, went drinking with his buddies while I did housework and cooking. Prior to WW2 wives stayed at home. Guys would never change a diaper etc - that was "womens work". I so envy the young couples today where hubby helps with the kids and house. I spent 46 years being both wife and mother to my husband and never realised until after he died how resentful I actually felt at sacrificing my whole life to a forced career, caring for house and kids and kowtowing to a selfish husband and having nothing for myself. Women earned lower salaries and had limited choices but had to work as husbands in general couldn't support a family on one salary
I enjoyed this very much. The teenagers soundso much more intelligent than they do now(sadly) I 'm from that generation. Glad I grew up then. God help the teenagers now.
I was interviewed by our local news channel in 1977 in high school. I would love to see that interview now. I thought I was so worldly. If only I knew then what I know now...😂😬😂
"The thing that keeps the world going is that people can never achieve anything to its fullest" so true. The moving goal posts. You have to do more more more.
The most brilliant comment - and I haven't even finished watching - and there won't be a more brilliant comment, is when the girl at around 2:34 says never achieving anything to its fullest is what keeps the world going round. If people could, she says, it (the world?) "would have to come to an end." Incredibly deep remark, she throws out, 'off-hand.' Good stuff, this video.
That married couple sitting at the table looked pretty miserable. I’m grateful times have changed and woman can do more than waiting for repair men to tell her husband about.
Yeah, the wife really felt like she knew her husband had a whole life away from her she could not actually ask about or want to really know. And the husband was really struggling not to tell her lol
The main difference between the husband's "independence" away from home and today's woman's independence away from "where she sends her rent and car note" is that he literally stated that he was *involved in the community*. Huge differences.
The consumption part is right. But they never found their identity. The ONLY way to know who you are, is by knowing who God your creator is. Some have come to find that out. But more, in each generation continue to search.
Another great video David. I grew up in the 50s and 60s...graduated in 1970. Most of the time we hung out with friends or went to dances or a place on Main Street where you paid a quarter..got a coke and talked and danced for a few hours. There were still times when if your friends were busy you had nothing to do. We also babysat other peoples kids for 25 cents an hour. I would love to go back.
@@jamesmathai1138 no. You’ll notice for instance a lot more silence in conversations especially back in the 40s-50s. Even with the very fast talking, people weren’t so anxious and uncomfortable with silence. Someone could take a moment to think before he spoke every now and again.
Hey Mr David it's good know that you've been an Director/Cameraman till now you make many documentary . Even I love to draw old comics when I was young. those were the times were people had good generations. Good luck with your Film maker.......
I have goosebumps from the part where the housewife says so eloquently that she wishes he would just be there sometimes. And she asks him how they can be connected when he doesn't tell her anything. That was powerful.
My Grandfather and his brothers were like that. There was trauma involved. They all had missing fingers, eyes, and limbs. I think they were trying to protect us. They wanted us to be sheltered from the way it was for them. Many of them thought that, in a sense, history had been won, and that we were to be the benefactors. It wasn't good or bad. They were simply mistaken.
Heartbreaking.
@ja maguire Wow, I don't think you heard a thing she said.
Because that guy was probably working in a government agency involved with national security. That's why he's tight-lipped about his job.
@ja maguire She was just asking him to spend more time at home so she could feel like they were actually a couple. She says he's gone from 6 in the morning until midnight. She was asking him to drop some of the community/social things and just be at home with her and the kids. She can't do anything about work problems, but she's there to hear them. He SHOULD be telling her about outside community/social activities, as there'd be no reason not to tell your wife about the local WaterBuffalo meeting.
That guy talking about how "they need to build personality and identity into products" was horrifyingly prophetic.
And the boomers did it. They formed the zeitgeist that is just now falling apart, the high paying job, big house and car and vacations and constantly upgrading those things to inform the world of your worth. They then went on to put that same idea into their children, Gen X, in a world where they had now raised the bar to attain those things even higher, but it was still doable but at a much much greater cost. Gen X then had to work 90 hours a week to afford the same life at double or triple the price. Now the millennial's are in a world where these things are still looked upon as markers of success but the bar to attain those is impossible to reach, yet still desired as we have a totally consumer culture now. I will just add, because this is the internet , this is a generalization, of course there are boomers who struggle and millennial's succeeding fine.
It's only prophetic if you don't see beyond the end of your nose. Identity has fueled every nation, and political movement throughout history. The only thing new in 1964 may have been attributing the consumerist term "product" to it.
Wasn't that what Bernays started in the 1920s?
@@telequacker-9529 Well I would say something different was starting then, and that being capitalist mass markets. In the pre-capitalist days, most people mostly made their own stuff. If something required a very high level of specialized skill, it was generally made by artisans who were working in small workplaces, often on their own. They did not have the time, money nor manpower needed to consider how they would advertise their product beyond the personal relationship with their costumers. They couldn't insert a corporate created aesthetic into it.
@@CandidZulu Yes, but the 50s and 60s was when it really took top gear. The great depression mostly destroyed the niche consumer markets that are needed to profit off of building in niche identity and personality into products. Teenagers didn't have the money to buy stuff they wanted because they didn't have jobs. WWII made the economy totally focused on the war effort, so it wasn't until the 50s and 60s and sixties that this could really start to take hold.
“we feel that they are going to find their identity through consumption.”
That was, for better or worse, a very prophetic statement. But with that consumption came debt, both personally and nationally.
I never realized how compulsive consumption was amongst my generation until i found out people were buying red rubber to put on their shoes to pretend to have those Louboutin shoes.
All for the label.
To be identified as a well off person when they were not. Playing a role. It was sad.
They bought into the lie that more is better.. Keep up with The Jones. Now greed and selfishness is killing us.
I think people that lived through poverty and war rationing had a different attitude vs those with plenty but now many want to downsize again reduce reuse recycle etc. so priorities are changing for some again just for economic and environmental reasons. The hippies of the era didn't want that either they wanted communal living and organic gardening and travelling etc. you can't sell certain lifestyles to everyone.
The only way for capitalism to continue is through debt.
I don't know if anybody else noticed, but there was a girl in the beatnik group that got cut off every time she tried to say something. I really wanted to hear whatever point she was trying to make. Especially the 1st one about how it wasn't cool to be square, I wanted to know where she was going with that. I hate it when people run over someone when they're talking!
good way to gauge if a group of radicals is full of shit lol. just watch how the men interact with the women.
@@kevinmathewson4272 I totally caught that. Although I did appreciate the dude who said that the system serves a certain group of people. That has not changed.
yep, I saw that. "gender-blind camaraderie"...
also how the white power structure speech was somehow really funny to them.
I searched the comments to see if anyone else noticed that. People need to keep in mind that this generation is still in power. They really never turned it over to GenX. So, that same way of discounting someone who doesn't just agree to the group think is practiced today in general society and politics. It was sad to see her so blatantly ignored, as though what she could have said didn't matter at all.
: ( "You become the very system itself" .... and they did. This same group that completely ignored what this girl had to say.
R.I.P. to those who passed away that came out in this special documentary. I hope this video will circulate long after we are all gone.
Most of them are in they're 80s/mid 70s)
Fascinating! I was born in 1964. The interaction between the husband and wife is interesting because I can imagine there was a divorce in their future based on her feelings of loneliness and isolation. Just my observation.
I was thinking that too. He probably did a good job supporting his family financially but not such a good job being close to his family emotionally.
@@karenh2890 It reminded me of a scene right out of the show Mad Men.
I too was thinking they would be divorced by the mid 70's, which was a bit like an epidemic at the time...
But the way they each built their lives, together and separate, was very typical of the families in the burbs at that time. Soon the father becomes detached from his wife and kids. The wife has no idea how to hold the family together bcuz basically she's doing it all alone anyway, there is no "together".
By the time the kids hit puberty, both mother and father have no idea what is happening emotionally with their own children. Equally they don't know how to talk with the children about any problems they may be having. Which means the model of how to know how to talk about problems trickles down to the kids.
Rebellion comes naturally for teens, and without parents to talk with, or lead them thru turbulence, it's quite easy to see the result coming to a head in the late 60's and all thru the 70's.
That conversation with the married couple summed up the disconnect so very well.
If you think that’s how men and women should be in a marriage- emotionally disconnected -- then I wish you a lifetime of loneliness, instead of spreading your insanity on family.
@@FelonyVideos good luck trying to figure out what she was trying to say...
To hear them state that their main problem is that they don't know what to pick out of all the amazing options they have is quite incredible as opposed to the times we live when young people feel so limited.
I don't feel limited. I truly feel like I can do almost anything I want because there are so many more resources today. I really believe that if a young person feels limited, it's their own doing.
@@hvllxwxxn In general, young people are nowadays presented with more options and resources than ever before, so I also disagree with Robin. But, poverty exists and it's a huge limiting factor for a ton of people. If a young and poor person feels limited, it's not their own doing. So I disagree with you as well :D
Yeah as someone who has been struggling since before I hit adult hood I have to agree with Robin. We are limited now but its because if the financial issues, we can't just do what we want we can't pick something to do because we like it we have to pick our futures based on just trying to survive. It's honestly sad and disheartening. Most of us feel we will never get to where our parents got. We feel we won't ever retire and we will work and work until we drop dead on the job. All while not making enough to afford to live. We work so hard and get very little back from it. I wish i was burdened by having all these choices and power over my own future.
@@exon5336 I’m not saying you’re wrong and I’m right but I do disagree with you. I think at a certain point you can no longer use those excuses. My mom was 18 and single when she had me and we lived in a trailer park. My first job was construction worker (unskilled labor) and it sucked. But I kept working my way up to better jobs. And then finally I started my career. I’ve always made more money than my mom and helped support us both. Never went to college. The opportunities are there whether you’re taking advantage of them or not. It’s not impossible to work your way up from any point. This is without any government assistance or welfare or child support or anything like that. Just me and my mom working our way up.
@@exon5336 just for reference I’m 29, live in Florida and I’m a graphic designer
Love these videos. My parents were teenagers in 1964 and now they are grandparents in their 70s...it’s crazy how quickly the years go by. What a different world we live in these days.
I drove friends to a Hendrix concert in '68. The philosophy among those of us who are still here, "If you remember the 60s, you weren't there!"
Great film!!
I was 9 in '64. Had trouble in Catholic school, and was switched over to public school. The church didn't like divorced parents back then... a big no no.
It sounds similar to my experience, although I was only 1 year old in '64. Growing up in the Deep South, attending non-parochial private school, as a child of divorce, at age 10, I felt very different and somewhat ostracized. It was, indeed, a stigma. At age 14, I made the switch to public school, where I made close friends with many who didn't share my skin color. While there possibly could've been some trauma bonding there, I'm grateful to have experienced both environments, as I believe it helped me develop invaluable people skills. 😎😍
If you examine criminals, you’ll find most come from single parent homes.
I’m not saying it’s impossible to be raised by one parent and be extremely successful, but it’s not the norm.
@@ranz2355 Actually, multiple longitudinal psychological studies have shown that only one significant caregiver is necessary to raise a child who has a stable sense of wellbeing...and 'successful' by societal standards.
@@ranz2355 you are correct. Fortunately, due to varied, unique situations and dynamics, I know I was the exception in being high functioning and relatively successful. On the other hand, I am quite typical with the mental disorders and failed relationships due to the dysfunction of divorce. One example is choosing a career over having children. My original response might have been convoluted, and I should’ve stressed that my appreciation was strictly for being able to experience both private and public school. My preference is that divorce would be a difficult option, resorted to only in situations of abuse, versus being the norm and such a selfish, easy way out. Make it work until your children are over age 18.
Did the really kick you out of Catholc School because your parents are divorced?
I was 14 in 1964. Saw the Beatles in concert. Lived thru the Kennedy assassination in Dallas. School and having a good time were my main goal. These were good times.
@Jan Koza And you still here to talk about it!
God bless you➖🙏💖
You really grew up in one of the most chaotic eras in American history. When you look back at it, what do you remember most?
@@loganroark3916 The unrest about Viet Nam comes to mind. It was on the News every night. Then the deaths of Dr King and Robert Kennedy. The strides made for minorities and women. Lots of good memories of coming of age. A lot of history was made in the 60’s and 70’s.
@@janec.kowalczyk5824 ♥️
@@jankoza673 did you see Walter Cronkite on the tv just about every night? Also, what was the Beatles concert like
Never thought so many in my generation would become theIr parents. What is really shocking is so many went from wanting to save the world to wanting to buy it. I was 11 and am in shock at where we are now
totally agree
It’s not where I thought we’d be. 😳
would it be fair to see it went downhill from the reagan era in USA?
Good thing they went away from "change the world." Otherwise it would be like Russia or China, where they did change the world, and made it much worse.
And they didn't buy the world either. They might've been arrogant when this was made, but with time they grew less humble and accepted just living in the world.
I really liked what the girl on the beach said, about people being concerned about how things effect them instead of finding a solution. Then the beat nick kids in sunglasses, i wish people could listen and talk to each othet like that again. They remind me of Bob Dylan and that time in our history when he was young. And then the woman at the end. That was great, how she told her husband how she felt about not feeling close to him. You never saw that on leave it to beaver or the patty Duke show. They always paint a certain picture of what it was like back then. But i guess sit coms do that no matter what generation or decade you watch.
Agreed man. Good luck finding another Dylan in this world...
@@fpopee true. Definitely the kettle calling the pot black when it comes to democrats calling Republicans fascists. Still wish people talked the same way now. Everythings so dulled down
I agree with your statement about the girl on the beach. She really did articulate the feelings of her peers very well. I felt like she was saying about her generation what young people say now about the climate crisis in relation to the "Boomers." Young people don't feel like the older generations care about what happens in the future because they won't be alive then. I think the family having the picnic countered that nicely though. Those parents do really care about their children and their children's futures, but they only have a limited influence on their lives, since they are also being influenced by their peers and the people they meet at school and during their very many extracurriculars. It makes me appreciate my parents and the work they did raising my sisters and me.
However, I don't agree with your reaction to the Beatnik kids. They seemed like poseurs to me. They talked a good talk, but they mentioned "the white man power establishment" and didn't let the girls in their group have anything to say; moreover, there was not a person of color among them. They can pooh pooh society as much as they want, but unless they get up and make a change, sitting around talking about it doesn't do much good.
I also agree with the comment below about Bob Dylan. He was very much the voice of his generation, like you mention @Darci, but unfortunately, he proved to be pretty selfish. He talked the talk but didn't want to walk the walk either. He rejected the label that people gave him, which it is his right to do, but then why bother to bring attention to all of the civil rights issues if he didn't want to be affiliated with the movements trying to change things? Why write antiwar songs if you don't care about the wars taking place? Bob Dylan is an enigma who has carefully constructed an image of rebellion, but whether or not he really believes in what he sings about is only known by him.
I also agree with your comment on the couple at the end. It's so sad to hear their conversation. I don't know what the man was doing; some people have commented he was probably a philanderer, but I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he was working long hours and then involved in projects and community service. He thought he was being a responsible man -- looking out financially for his family and taking on the work of his neighborhood. Unfortunately, his idea of being responsible was different from hers. She felt neglected and lonely, and rightfully so.
There is just so much you can take from these interviews and these clips. It's incredible! Thank you @David Hoffman for your videos! 💜
Crazy how the one girl said it was a materialistic world. If only they could see it now.
They can see it. They are boomers they likely aren't dead yet. (At least not from old age.) My mom and dad were 14 and 16 in 1964 they're still kicking in their mid to late 70s.
Sorry, they were 16 and 19. Born in 1945 and 1948.
My grandma s born in 1933, still alive and she thinks that social media would have made her life better 🤣
america has been a materialistic hellhole for decades now. now you just are able to see it broadcasted everywhere.
The couple at the end was so open and honest. It was refreshing, but also kind of sad.
Wasn't that a Dad and daughter?
@@juangal7569 No, it was a young married couple. Your question makes sense though. In general around this time period, young married couples power in relationships was not very equal. The husband was a bit of a surrogate father, and the wife was supposed to behave, and "obey" her husband. In this short clip, she was explaining her feelings thoughtfully to her (emotionally) neglectful husband. This was the beginning of the women's movement in the early 60's.
@@cici7333 Aah ok, Thanks for the info!
@@cici7333 funny the woman’s movement did the same thing the welfare state did trick men and woman that they didn’t need each other for a healthy family. They always trick us to beg for our own demise or shackles and now society has reconditioned to need two incomes so it was all for a double loss
@@peaceandwealthseeker4504 Exactly!!
Love how one of the teens said something about how important it is to form your own ideals or else you'll take anything. It reminds me of the saying "Come up with a plan for what you want to do with your life or you'll be made into a part in someone else's plan. Idk I believe This is the same shit that's eating up the west atm.
That wasn't a mother; it was one of the teens.
@@lawsonj39 lmao yea you're right
I feel like the men carried themselves with a lot more class back then, even the way they stood, broad shouldered and their hands in their pockets. Rare to see that today.
How do the men of today carry themselves
@@qm421 I feel like that’s just not true. Just kidding. Would you say it’s the men’s fault for conforming to these politically correct rules or the fault of those women (and men) who made these rules
@@qm421 thank you. You have a good day, as well.
I really can't say that I have see much class around my parts lately and pants down to their knees just doesn't make it for me. I know a ton of good parents and no fault of these parents that their kids are what they are. I have many school chums that went another way.
@@loganroark3916 ....being PC stopped me from putting my hands in my pocket?
What a big difference from the 60s to now!
Children are so spoiled in today society! And as for the communication with kids and parents I feel more are more technology is here and
Kids are glued to their phones and Kindles and don't want to hear you. That we need to always find a way to listen to them and communicate with them. At the same time there is so much knowledge to learn from the computer.
Parents need to make sure their children have dreams and goals the bigger the dream the more you want to accomplish!
David I could just imagine from now to even 10 more years how different life will be for them.
David Thank you so much for all your hard work you do for us your viewers! I just love and enjoy your videos!
"My parents will kill me if I don't go to college." No, that will be the Vietnam War.
In 1968 I applied to the more competitive University of Vietnam and was accepted. I was then offered a semester abroad in Moscow, USSR. But it didn't align with my personal interests. Instead I accepted a leadership position in the Vietnamese People's Army (VPA). Travelling south at night through the jungle I only carried a AK-47 rifle and a 25 kilo bag of rice. Overhead American B-52's bombed our regiment killing nearly everyone. I'm glad to have experienced so much more than than my frat brothers at Cornell.
Yeah no kidding.
@@jchow5966 It's a sarcastic comment. American teenagers were so entitled in the 1960's. My three older brothers avoided Vietnam by enrolling at University at Buffalo. My nieces and nephews have attend University of Rochester, Yale, Harvard and Cornell. They never even considered enlisting in the US military. If you were a child born in Vietnam you had no choice but the fight the French then the Americans. You were dead as soon as you could fire a weapon.. Each communist soldier was given only enough rice to survive the march south. You weren't coming home.
If you don't have a rich daddy who can hand a briefcase of cash to a fake "doctor" to falsely write "bone spurs" on a piece of paper and millions of people enslaved to this total no limits at-all-costs self-serving narcissism pyramid scheme burden shifting theft from the Americans not born into money
I graduated high school in '84, and college in '88. And I feel that these young adults from the early '60's seem more similar to my generation than young adults in the '70s do.
Same. Graduated HS. in 84, then went in the Marines in 85.
I was two years old in 64 . The president just had his head blown off in broad daylight, the Beatles just came on the scene and Viet Nam was about to blow up, I’m so lucky to have survived the 70s and early 80s . Today 32 years clean and sober and a Whole Foods, plant based eater. RUclips literally saved my life
Hey old guy 😉 your comment got my attention, as I was one year old in ‘64. While seemingly high functioning, I’ve struggled with various substance abuse and binge eating my entire adult life. I just subbed to your channel. Congratulations on finding your way.
32 years clean and RUclips about half that old yet you credit it for saving your life. Ok
There is no way that husband at the end spent all his days at the office and then committed himself to community service until 12-1 am every night. I’m curious if the wife knew or if she truly was that naïve.....
Good point!
I kind of get the feeling that she knew but really didn’t want to know either. But she would she would use it as a passive-aggressive ploy to guilt the husband. But he wasn’t budging (bulging veins and all every time she mentions his “community activities”). I get the feeling she likes to bring up her husband’s “community activities” schedule at social gatherings after mama’s second G&T.
“Hal, honey. (He strikes me as a Hal) Tell everyone about your community activities that keep you out until 1am every night. Sometimes later...Tell everyone about all your hard work for the community at all hours of the night.”
At least that is the impression I get.
He could barely even look in her direction while she was pouring her heart out. Brutal.
@@cagnazzo82 And the fact that he kept eating the entire time while her fork was poised in the air.
This was common unfortunately. Both of my blood grandfathers are serial cheaters who constantly cheated on my grandmothers.
Everybody was unsure at that time, and most were afraid, especially about the Cold War. Fear is often transformed into anger, because anger feels safer than fear. The generation gap...and lifestyle were hugely different, and neither parent or child had any idea regarding the thoughts, emotions, or driving force behind the other. The baby boomers could not imagine what their parents experienced in the depression and WWII, and the parents were still too wounded to talk about it in real terms. The last couple explains with perfect clarity why the massive use of mood altering medications became “Mother’s little helper” for a goodly number of years. Great bit of comparison, I enjoyed it...thanks.🖤🇨🇦
5:02 WOW this whole speech about defining your identity through consumption was really something! I have watched another video discussing that the boomer generation was the first one fortunate enough to be raised given so much compared to previous generations before them. It makes it easier to understand this "attainment" ladder that was then formed by that generation. Not everyone, but most, and it then went on to define everything, get a good job, buy a house and a nice car, upgrade those things often, big vacations, and on and on. It also make is easier to understand the "hippies" of that generation rebelling against these ideas. So interesting!
Another thing that I think people missed was the statement about people looking at what is best for them and not for society. I think older people look at their 20's when they bought a house, car and was fully independent. They don't realize that the factory job doesn't exist and if it does the job pays 15 to start and requires an associate's degree. Most young people are not even that lucky and are making less than that.
I am a late boomer. I remember my dads generation, known as the silent generation, buying a new car about every 3 to 5 yrs. That was a symbol of success. People would brag and show off. Yet we lived in a very small modest home. Ive had new cars, but yet I dont like to brag or show off like that.
We really are so lucky for these uploads....they really help contextualize/ understand todays society...the good and the bad-- The importance of feminism especially...the woman at the end was SO articulate explaining her needs and feelings.
She wanted to be closer to her husband and have his presence felt more in the home. I don't see how that shows a need for feminism. That would exacerbate her problems.
@@reroha I think anyone with half a brain cell can see that there's a gulf of distinction between feminism (empowerment) and misandry (dominance). To be brutally honest we see the same transition from demanding equality to establishing a boot on the neck in every variety of identity politics from gay rights to trans-evangelicalism.
@@reroha actual 0 IQ take
Yes feminism...and now the hatred of men in general
This is me and my wife, sadly it's me trying to talk to her most often. I lived a really rough life so learned to be open all the time but we are going on 11 years now loving each other just sometimes she doesn't talk or open up much but I still love her always. Sorry for rambling on...
Always interesting to hear the young generation of the day talk about their situations. Nothing really different about that other than the specific things with which they deal. The film begins with choices and how that was a challenge for these youth. Going to a party and not telling your parents everything that went on is timeless. The idea of being detached from materialism to find yourself is an interesting comment. That things end if you achieve things to their fullest is philosophical or perhaps an excuse. Finding out your something is very relevant today except now it's call it finding your why and your passion. The casualness thing seemed very new for these youth compared to earlier generations. The idea of going to the best college seems so typical for the 60s and 70s. Although going to the "best" college makes a difference, it's not the right thing for everyone. Marketing apparently had already begun to get sophisticated as reflected by the one person mentioning creating product identity. The "rap" session reflected how very little was really said and those sessions seemed to be more of a casual hangout to kill time and be social. But the one fellow's comment about forming a new society seemed serious. The observation that was made of parent's declining influence on their kids' choices is certainly true when the kids become a certain age, which points to the need for parents to have solid involvement early on. Nowadays by the time a kid enters middle school they are bombarded with so much other "stuff" that strong, effective parenting early on is so critical nowadays. The end seems to be a great example of probably why divorce rates soared. I read back then many couples experimented with open marriages, which probably was a reflection of the new found social freedoms that people had.
This content is invaluable, a stroll into the galleries of the past
thank you for devoting your life to capturing these golden moments
The milkman’s truck at 4:50 brought me right back to this time period. My childhood milkman was named Gus. He brought the glass milk bottles right into the kitchen where my mom would be having her breakfast coffee. Real milk, with the heavy cream on top.
I look remarkably like the milkman.....i was born in the early 60s.....my dad used to say that I looked nothing like him.
I wonder what the milk man's duties were when dad had to go to work while the milk man delivered milk to the wives?
So your fathers name is Gus?
This video is a Piñata of Emotions for ALL who have experienced these times or heard other Family members talk about The '60's! I'm hoping that a few of these people who were in this film are in fact Members of The Hoffman Community and chime in with their own recollections! That would be So Groovy! Cheers From Ohio
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Sooo, did you sell out to the corporate “man” when you got older? Just curious. Were the sentiments in this film the same across country? Also, these seem like college kids, not high school (out until 1:30 am?)
Boomer here; still trying trying to figure it all out through my materialism. Dont worry it should only take a few more years.
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@@skyboomer2127 hilarious
Always enjoy these. You learn something new and get an appreciation from it!
Glad you like them!
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Many of these teens are in their 70s today and very wise. Imagine their shock at today's teen culture.
I was a freshman in 64. Yep, I'm 70. I like the kids nowdays. Very smart, funny and talented. I am getting my karma for calling old folk slower than turtles.
@@prayerworks11 It's nice to hear that the teens of today are better than they are portrayed in media.
North face clothing and tik tok
I'm not shocked, haven't seen any teens since 2019.
No, the pants around the knees thing I find odd. But as an early 70s teen, I ain't shook by much. I too had my fun!
Teen's culture always been full of rebels, I thought this channel would be the last place where I would see stupid arguments like this where people compare how there were "better people" in the good ol days
I was a ‘65 graduate but my family didn’t have money for college so one year later I was in Viet Nam. Between the GI Bill & grant money for cops I was able to get my degree, but it took over 7 years while working nights & going to court during the day. I’m not complaining, we all made it the best we could and I’m happy to be a proud/retired grandpa w/the time to enjoy my family.
love how they're my age (in the video) and they still act like our grandparents xD
Edit: Holy Shit! I’m the top comment!
Only the body ages
😂 gave me a good laugh!
Better more fun
@RX73f o3 newer gens are definitely brain washed dude. All bc they can take in more information than older generations doesnt mean they’re any smarter. In fact, i think it makes newer generations stupider.
Yeah they're very mature for their age... today's teens are like what 7 years olds were back then.
David, I truly appreciate your work and your channel. It's a time machine and we're incredibly lucky to get to take these rides back with you. I was born in '76, so it's wonderful to see people and perspectives that came before me from everyday people who I can still relate to in such a candid way. Thank you so much.
Married couple talking, she was on the money. Mere presence is very important in a family.
I wanted to play Bob Dylan's "Subterranean Homesick Blues," at my graduation commencement. Everything I've ever needed (or wanted) to know about life is in the lyrics of that tune. I'm with the two surfniks as they discuss what's coming at them in life. Thanks David Hoffman.
David - thank you for all that you do.
This is the type of ethnographic work I love to see. The type that gains currency through the passage of time. It's the type of work that we still need today. The immediate payoff is not apparent because it is a culture or group of cultures that we not only immediately experience but ones that are almost too near, existentially, to analyze. Our progeny, however, will likely find it fascinating and it will be the one of the few ways in which they can experience our present.
One thing is for certain, people looked healthier.
Thank you David. ❤
Honestly, this is so insightful.
I spent a majority of my time with my grandparents (I’m 28 years old) growing up so I kind of understood the stuff they had to go through. But this is so interesting because it genuinely shows the kind of interesting aspects of what it was probably like for them.
They grew up in the poor and rural south, so things probably weren’t as open minded to anything that didn’t fir their definition of “normality”.
My grandmother was widowed when my grandfather was killed in Korea serving overseas by a drunk bus driver in the 1970’s.
They look so happy and even in a time of fighting for civil rights, wars and a change from what was originally believed to be normal..
Honestly, there’s no telling how many couples stayed together until the very end in an unhappy marriage just to avoid social ridicule or financial hardship.
It seems so lonely to be in that situation.
I sure hope that regardless, they eventually found some form of happiness.
I can’t help but feel a twinge sad because there’s so much that I want to know about their lives and where they went on to be. How many of them had their lives cut short due to a horrible war.
Growing up in the south you can still see the scars of the past from that time.
Buildings that once seemed so grand then are dilapidated and boarded up or only a crumbling foundation of what once was.
People tend to romanticize this time- but, fail to realize what all was actually going on.
I suppose I’m very lucky to be alive in this crazy time and to have people like my grandparents who understood what it was like to just want to get away and be themselves.
Nana is happy where she is. She’s got family, her garden and her great grandkids.
It genuinely makes you appreciate the impact that they had on helping us get here. Where as it hasn’t been all great, they were like millennials are now- hopeful for change and growth.
We’re running out of time to experience their stories and hear it from them.
It wasn’t always great and exciting- but the older one gets you kind of can’t help but just enjoy the little things.
I genuinely enjoy these videos. Thank you for sharing this!
A refreshing time when people were more human. I miss those days.
So we're less human now? 😐
Perhaps you mean more human because people are interacting and not starring at a screen? I do think the digital age has dehumanized us and has lead to less life and flourishing
@@alyssamaria4850 tf do you mean, before the pandemic people regularly interacted with each other face to face.
We're just as human as our grandparents, the only difference is that we have technology that makes our lives more convenient.
Enough with the "good old days" bullshit.
It was better before "urban" culture began to affect America's youth.
I remember well at 68 yes old. Good Times!
My parents generation, I love this.
What is that really cool music at the intro and ending of this piece. I really love it.
It reminds me of the intro to Watermelon Man by Herbie Hancock... wonder which came first!
I love watching everyone dance. they look like they're having a great time.
Stand for something or you'll fall for anything, rings true now more than ever. Used to be door-to-door salesmen, now no one comes to your door because they've all got access to you electronically. Progress is a double-edged sword.
It's not "progress," it's only "development."
@@thegreenlantern9709 True, yeah
I was -17 in 1964, Born in 1981. however everyone seems to have a better vocabulary, and spoke decently with each other, whether or not they agreed with each other... and I admire that, and I kind of wish that we had that now. 2021..... please take note, and learn from there example...
How on earth could you be 17 in 1964 if you were born in 1981?! Do you never check what you have written before you post?
@@anonymousforever she put -17, as in minus 17. Took me a bit to get it so all good!
Her text could’ve been written better. Plus, the wrong pronoun was used. But I do appreciate her sentiment.
Love LOVE your videos my friend!
Masterfully done!
Thank you very much
This is really interesting. I was born in1960, and it's amazing to look back at teenagers then.
Just goes to show that teenagers can be a combination of obnoxious and genuinely insightful no matter the generation! Things definitely feel more high anxiety and high-stakes for current teenagers. I wonder how that will change in the future.
You saw insight?
I’m noticing a lot of people marry young. Kinda worried the anxiety is making gen z into the silent gen in a way
I love these windows into the past. A big fan of captured moments and the celebration of people that I see in your videos. Thanks for sharing these things and creations that were formed and collected through your own passion and interest. Peace.
I think they are more mature looking and acting at that age then kids that age today.
Because their old, yo.
No they are still goofy…. they just dress like their parents 😂 because the Individualism of the 60’s was just taking hold if David did this same interview with kids the exact same age just 4 years later 1968 they would look totally different…..even here you can see when the beatniks started to differentiate themselves from their peers in dress, attitude, etc….
They appear older because the youth culture was brand new - They still looked up to and took inspiration from adults. Holden Caulfield was cool because he acted like an adult. After the youth culture was established, young people started comparing themselves more to their peers. Today they look up to popstars and instagram people. Old people just aren't interesting to them, you probably know the feeling. I think it's great, honestly. We won't get anywhere by staying in the same place.
Edit: J.D Salinger was 25 when he published Catcher in the Rye, he was a seasoned adult at that time. People left school earlier, moved out earlier back then. My dad was on his own when he was 16, that was in 1961.
Not only that, they possess a much higher level of verbal communication. Their vocabulary exceeds even many adults today in addition to the youth. These people must have spent many, many hours simply talking and thinking about things. Today, that time is spent on a device. Verbal communication is at an all time low among people these days.
@@buckrogers6378 They read a lot. Reading was cool, and you could really define yourself by which kinds of books you read. So they knew a lot of words, and they spoke like authors, like people on the radio and the movies, because that was cool. If you read my previous comment, I mentioned the youth culture. Kids today speak like kids on TV, they speak like their peers. They make up their own words, their own trends. The cats a few years after this footage started speaking groovy, just like the other people who let their hair down. Old people just weren't "cool" anymore, you dig?
It’s so interesting watching them talk as actual people. They’re naturally flowing through a natural and real conversation, and seeing it actually gives me real perspective and a connection to them. I can actually relate to them and see them as people, not through stories and hindsight. Or even the most descriptive documentary without real footage like this
10:46 Legend has it she's still holding that fork
Lol
Videos like this one and others on this channel really give me some insight into the lives of my parents and grandparents. I really appreciate that. They’re no longer around to ask questions about their youth. This really helps me feel like I understand their perspectives a bit better. Thank you for that.
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@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker what is the soundtrack? I can’t find it anywhere. Desperate.
I find it quite impressive they could complete a full sentence without dropping an f bomb into it.
I consider myself somewhat well spoken but find myself cussing too much, and it probably does make me sound dumber than I am haha. People could actually form complete sentences, and talked slower usually and thought about what they said.
@@cameronherman-music3309 yes, absolutely.
Hahaha have you heard the way 50+ year olds talk? They curse like sailors, often
@@NoName-gz2kk thats fucking awful. goddamn.
@@MegaSuperCritic hahaha
The dinner table conversation was amazing...and hauntingly familiar.
1964 my only concern what branch of the military to join. 1966 I took test for Air Force,Navy reserve,but ended up going into the U.S.Army for 3 yrs.
I told my Mom I was going into the Marines 'no not the Marines you'll have a better chance in the Army.'
We had the best music,my parents were awesome & miss them much.
Thank you for your Service
@@gemini6828 I wanted to be a helicopter gunner till I saw a friend hurt when his helicopter was shot down. We were in Vietnam Jan '67 'till Dec '67 but I did not see him after July of '67. Hope he made home.
I am proud of your sons. Thx your sons for me,my prayers for them.
Only possible in the last 20 or maybe 30 some years. Perhaps not even that cuz of the limited footage and ability to re-record and remaster as compared to today. Imagine the people living 500 to a 1000 years from now, should we survive ( I hope so)and this kind of stuff manages to be preserved. Thank you for being a pioneer. How I would love to glimpse the turn of the century, to see the people that could be my grandparents in a film that is not a fiction but more everyday life and the attitudes and thought processes held, let alone those of a 1000 years ago or more ! I must admit I am slightly envious even of this, although photos have their own charm and magic. I remember the show "Here Come the 70's" as a kid and was fascinated. Born in 61. Wow time flies.
One thing I noticed right off the bat,is in 1964 people sat closer to each other in social settings whether on the floor or chairs,etc...we are more distant than ever now...even before the pandemic.....the internet connects us,but keeps us far apart at the same time.
My thoughts exactly..now we are all loners on phones
Thank you for the 60 and 70s era interviews. Helps me understand my father much more. A sad generation, some of which ended up broken beyond repair unfortunately.
Fantastic footage !
Many thanks
I'm just happy to hear people speaking without 'uptalking'.
Love this so much. These young people all kind of say dumb things but with so much conviction and confidence it makes you want to agree with them!
I lament the loss of these kinds of conversations.
That one couple at the dinner table, OMG! She said, "I don't know anything about your life from when you leave leave for work at 6:30am until you get home at 12:00-1:00am!" What the actual hell? She blames it on all his "community activities!" Only if his community activities included having another woman or man (more than likely) on the side. I hope she woke up and divorced his sneaky hind end!
In show Mad Men, the husband the husband was gone all day too
Seeing this footage was so great! Thank you for sharing, David! ❤
Seems like a good watch, the year I was born.
Thank you for sharing this content my friend hope you have a great weekend.
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Very interesting. I was maybe a year old baby when this was filmed. The youth were still very respectful but they were all seeking something deeper while still having a good time doing it. My parents grew up in St Louis Missouri and their parents were all from the south so it's interesting seeing the "Northern perspective and experience" of the time. My grandparents weren't so frank with my parents.
It’s crazy to think about my own mother as a teenager at this time.
Love this. I feel like people of today are not much different than people back then. I, and many people I know, have had that exact same conversation with their significant others as the couple in the end of this video. A lot of people in this video say things I’ve heard many people today say. (I’m 33, not that it matters).
Piano interesting to watch. I truly enjoyed that Johnny the husband maybe doing community service from 6 in the morning till midnight. But I don't think it's just community service working. Maybe her name is community is she performing a service. LOL
Stunning! Thank you ❤Great to see
This seems to be a story old as time. Parent and child not understanding each other. The funny thing is this will never be solved because their will always be a parent who has the luxury of experience and the child has the luxury of free spirit and youth. The kids on this are now in the parent roll. It would be interesting to see these people now and see what they think now. I love having a real glimpse in the past. Especially when you get a true peak at life real life!!
I was born in 1949. Our husbands on average expected us to go out to work but never helped with the kids, housework, shopping, cooking, kids homework etc. I had to be supermom - my husband played sport over weekends, went drinking with his buddies while I did housework and cooking. Prior to WW2 wives stayed at home. Guys would never change a diaper etc - that was "womens work". I so envy the young couples today where hubby helps with the kids and house. I spent 46 years being both wife and mother to my husband and never realised until after he died how resentful I actually felt at sacrificing my whole life to a forced career, caring for house and kids and kowtowing to a selfish husband and having nothing for myself. Women earned lower salaries and had limited choices but had to work as husbands in general couldn't support a family on one salary
Dude at the end is So cold 🥶 and callous to his wife….woooow I bet the only reason he didn’t sock her in the face is because he was being filmed
I enjoyed this very much. The teenagers soundso much more intelligent than they do now(sadly) I 'm from that generation. Glad I grew up then.
God help the teenagers now.
i like this Generation Thats why i dont allowed INTERNET, Social Media in my Country!
David. Your records are a legend! So glad I found you. So glad for you!!
I was interviewed by our local news channel in 1977 in high school. I would love to see that interview now. I thought I was so worldly. If only I knew then what I know now...😂😬😂
Did the interviewer have big burns and a polyester suit?
I just love this entire interview.
When I watch the young men in this video I get an ache in my heart because I wonder how many went to Vietnam. Btw I was 8 years old 1964.
"The thing that keeps the world going is that people can never achieve anything to its fullest" so true. The moving goal posts. You have to do more more more.
I feel sad and powerless for my generation-that we’re incapable of changing anything
You might want to listen to some Russell Brand or Richard Grannon
Amazing footages Mr. Hoffman!
2021 is an echo of 1964; people just don’t recognize it!! Human nature never changes and there’s nothing new under the Sun!!
The most brilliant comment - and I haven't even finished watching - and there won't be a more brilliant comment, is when the girl at around 2:34 says never achieving anything to its fullest is what keeps the world going round. If people could, she says, it (the world?) "would have to come to an end."
Incredibly deep remark, she throws out, 'off-hand.'
Good stuff, this video.
That married couple sitting at the table looked pretty miserable.
I’m grateful times have changed and woman can do more than waiting for repair men to tell her husband about.
Yeah, the wife really felt like she knew her husband had a whole life away from her she could not actually ask about or want to really know. And the husband was really struggling not to tell her lol
@BlackCats Matter Right??! 🤣
The main difference between the husband's "independence" away from home and today's woman's independence away from "where she sends her rent and car note" is that he literally stated that he was *involved in the community*. Huge differences.
Also she said that he's gone from 6 am to midnight; did I hear that right? Something is going on there!
Imagine how they are off camera!
I left home at 12 years old in 1965, headed to San Francisco , lived above a
Head - Shop. A great video my friend ☮️🕉️
Thank you David 👍
"We feel that they are going to find their identity through consumption." Bingo.
Boomers through and through, indeed. Gen X was a lot less materialistic.
The consumption part is right. But they never found their identity. The ONLY way to know who you are, is by knowing who God your creator is. Some have come to find that out. But more, in each generation continue to search.
Another great video David. I grew up in the 50s and 60s...graduated in 1970. Most of the time we hung out with friends or went to dances or a place on Main Street where you paid a quarter..got a coke and talked and danced for a few hours. There were still times when if your friends were busy you had nothing to do. We also babysat other peoples kids for 25 cents an hour. I would love to go back.
Before people said "like" all the time. Not saying "like" makes people sound so much more intelligent.
They still used fillers like “uh” and I’m sure people have always done it.
@@jamesmathai1138 no. You’ll notice for instance a lot more silence in conversations especially back in the 40s-50s. Even with the very fast talking, people weren’t so anxious and uncomfortable with silence. Someone could take a moment to think before he spoke every now and again.
@@freakydonald3611 I suppose so
Like man, like wow, dude!
Hey Mr David it's good know that you've been an Director/Cameraman till now you make many documentary . Even I love to draw old comics when I was young. those were the times were people had good generations. Good luck with your Film maker.......
very different perspectives and opinions than teens these days and the conversations i have with friends hahah
The mom and wife hairstyles were so cute !
What other channel lets you time travel to another time before you were born? Great work as always sir
Thank you Cid.
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LOVE it! All of it. This was 3 years BEFORE i was a thought....but shit, this is a GEM. 🌱