18 tooth clutch vs 15 tooth clutch / Tillotson 212 / Baja racer Minibike

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  • Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
  • 18 tooth clutch vs 15 tooth clutch / Tillotson 212 / Baja racer
    Installed both an 18 and a 15 tooth clutch on the Tillotson 212 engine on the Baja racer minibike to see which clutch would perform the best with a 70 tooth rear sprocket.
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    Clutch - 15 tooth Max-torque
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    Clutch - 18 tooth Max-torque
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Комментарии • 85

  • @Spacecruizer203
    @Spacecruizer203 2 года назад +6

    Lol dam u went off roading a lil in this installment good shiznit !!!!!

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад +3

      lol, i forgot abiout that, Ya I did. I wanted to test the suspension...😅

    • @Spacecruizer203
      @Spacecruizer203 2 года назад +1

      @@Black66 yea I got crazy in the ice the other day on the 80cc seems like the breather tube for the valve cover u know the top that says OVG I guess I pushed the tube in to far lol it started vibrating all crazy and thumping then it shut off so I will be swapping the ducar on it asap just need a motor mount I guess and clutch or TC and with the stock carb I have to use the throttle linkage right?

    • @Spacecruizer203
      @Spacecruizer203 2 года назад +1

      @@Black66 gotta be careful out there looks like area 51 out there pretty sick nasty

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад +1

      @@Spacecruizer203 Ya, with the stock carb you keep the linkage. With a VM or a slide style carb all you need is a throttle cable with an end on it to go into the slide.

    • @Spacecruizer203
      @Spacecruizer203 2 года назад

      @@Black66 thank u man just now found this message i just need to decide between motor plate and new clutch or upgraded bolts with spacers and or 420 sprocket ??? im stuck lol do i really need a adapter mount because i cant find any good ones they all look shotty

  • @freshbutplain1144
    @freshbutplain1144 2 года назад +9

    Haven’t even watched the video yet but already dropped a like. Because I know I’ll like it. Always great videos and information. Thank you!

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад +1

      Thanks ! Your nice for saying that

  • @dannyknight4623
    @dannyknight4623 2 года назад +1

    You boys finally got it

  • @ramos7735
    @ramos7735 2 года назад +2

    I think I’ll try out the 15 tooth clutch thanks brotha. Keep the content coming.

    • @kbeezyyyy_5069
      @kbeezyyyy_5069 Год назад

      did u try it? i needa know im gonna get one

  • @4vmax
    @4vmax Год назад +1

    Love all your videos I'm in the middle of building a bike rode it tonight shake down run I ran 42 mph shooting for 50

  • @derickthompson8669
    @derickthompson8669 Год назад +2

    I have a stock mini moto 80cc bike I want to get a little more out of for fun thank you for you videos I understand a 80cc is diffrent than a predator motor but good insight

  • @bigmacmillerlite8775
    @bigmacmillerlite8775 2 года назад +1

    Your best video. Thanks

  • @TheTrooper777
    @TheTrooper777 2 года назад +1

    That is really pushing a mini bike, what a ride

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      Have you seen this one yet? ruclips.net/video/8wVMdDTutPQ/видео.html

  • @mlindsay527
    @mlindsay527 2 года назад +3

    We need to find you a hill to try climbing with those tall gears;)
    A tach cam would be cool if you are up for it!

  • @NVScrapper
    @NVScrapper 2 года назад +3

    You forgot to wear your gloves...You ran out of road going that fast! It would be funny if the Po po was behind you! LOL 🤣🤣

  • @samsgarage1716
    @samsgarage1716 2 года назад +1

    That’s fast

  • @stclairstclair
    @stclairstclair 2 года назад +1

    Ha ha, I'm too old to figure out if my mini bike has a secret death wobble speed,
    I rolled a tiny go kart I made doing 20 on pavement and I'm 55, I was only laughing because I had done that enough times as a kid,
    I ended up converting a tiny Razor electric go kart to a full sized go kart, it took 6 months but came out so sweet, You guys would definitely love it!

  • @tomhannockoutlaw972
    @tomhannockoutlaw972 2 года назад +1

    👍

  • @miguelpagansr6128
    @miguelpagansr6128 2 года назад +1

    Very nice video indeed, looks like you’ll need some front brakes on her. Thankfully you’re out in the desert and it’s just dirt and not water. What would you recommend for a stock Honda GX160 with governor still on it, I’m aware that it’s set up to rev up to 3600 RPM and I’d like to keep it like that thanks for posting and ride safe.

  • @mantisman506
    @mantisman506 Год назад +1

    Ik that this vid is old but can I use the stock rear sprocket on the Coleman cc100x with a 18t clutch

  • @jahreed4720
    @jahreed4720 2 года назад +1

    Yo you flying 😂 6:09

  • @Studio9813production
    @Studio9813production 2 года назад +2

    lol I just bought a 18 tooth clutch for my DB30. I have the same rear sprocket so it looks like I might have to get a 15 to see what does better. I have a stock predator 212 idk how different the two engines are but I’ve always felt like I had to much torque.

  • @Spacecruizer203
    @Spacecruizer203 Год назад +2

    oh snap u did just pop a lil key in on this one i seen it was real split second quick right?

  • @sanhoe1472
    @sanhoe1472 Год назад +2

    Do you think 15f/40r is good for top speed or 18f/40r

  • @bennettmoore2081
    @bennettmoore2081 Год назад +1

    so i ordered the 15tooth clutch but have a 47tooth sprocket in that same bike. similar chain length. can anybody tell me if this is okay?

  • @clutch517
    @clutch517 2 года назад +1

    What’s a good clutch for a stock 212 tilli

  • @stclairstclair
    @stclairstclair 2 года назад +1

    LQQKS like you've had a few pins in that left arm!

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      No, its just massive muscles in my arm. I'm a beast! lol

  • @Spacecruizer203
    @Spacecruizer203 Год назад +2

    um bout 2 try a max torque 13 tooth on a 65 rear sprocket on my mini supermoto lol

  • @andymendez4406
    @andymendez4406 8 месяцев назад

    I have I believe 74 in the back I try a 18 tooth clutch and from 38 I went up to 52 my question is can I go lower on the clutch to go a little more faster? I want to try 15 and 17

  • @alohabobbylaguna1702
    @alohabobbylaguna1702 Год назад +1

    a great review about the size comparison what size is the tire height

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Год назад

      Thanks! The tires are aorund 15 inches tall on this combo.

  • @brdman722
    @brdman722 Месяц назад

    What tensioner is your most preferred

  • @heathenprojects2639
    @heathenprojects2639 2 года назад +1

    I'm waiting on a new 16 tooth from omb I ordered to mess with

  • @Angelhernandez-uw3rw
    @Angelhernandez-uw3rw 2 года назад +1

    How is the take off of them

  • @GILSJOURNEY
    @GILSJOURNEY 4 месяца назад

    What is the rpm range on this bike? I was having this exact conversation with someone and he said it would lose top end . I am going to show him this video. Thank you for the example

  • @kelenrojas4489
    @kelenrojas4489 Год назад +2

    Do yall think that a torque converter with 12 teeth on the rear pulley and 40 on the speocket is too much gear

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Год назад

      I think it depends on the tire size, weight of the bike, and rider and engine mods. Too much gear for one bike could be perfect for another. I would try it and see.

  • @alohabobbylaguna1702
    @alohabobbylaguna1702 Год назад +1

    i am building a ago kart using a Ducar 212cc with 11 inch rear tires overall height any suggestion about gearing for top speed possibly a rear end gear 53 teeth thank you

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Год назад

      Check out the CRG kart playlist. We change up gear ratios for top speed. ruclips.net/video/y5ESae-xS3c/видео.html

  • @jeffrykopis5468
    @jeffrykopis5468 2 года назад +1

    This is the 56 yr old Grampa in me, but son, if your skin touches pavement at those speeds, yer gonna be known as Scabs.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад +1

      If your gonna do it, might as well do it right! LOL

  • @JNC1973
    @JNC1973 2 года назад +2

    So I just watched your other video where you replaced the 50 tooth rear sprocket with a lower 40 tooth sprocket and actually gained top speed. Which confused me cause I thought the higher the teeth in the rear the higher the top speed ? So if I want my mini bike to go faster should I replace my 50 tooth with higher or lower tooth sprocket ? Right now I have a 50 tooth on the rear and an 11 tooth in front and it does 41 mph. What do I need to do in order to get it closer to the 50 mph mark ?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад +2

      Most of the time that is true . The smaller rear sprocket usually will get you more top speed . But only to a point . At some point you can have a sprocket that is to small and the engine doesn’t have enough torque to pull the gear . So I had to go the opposite way to get to the optimum gear .

    • @heathenprojects2639
      @heathenprojects2639 2 года назад

      One of the best set up 12/53 you get best of both worlds but you have to calculate weight so if you weigh 200 pounds your gear calculation is going to be in the parameters ever 20 pounds over your going to lose around 3 mph you can get it back with taller gearing 14/75 will give you around same speed as the 12/53 but pull 260 pound rider once you sort gearing out its all about rpm bmi kart has a cheat calculator and is pretty much on point good luck

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      @@heathenprojects2639 and tire height

    • @heathenprojects2639
      @heathenprojects2639 2 года назад

      @@Black66 after typed that was just thinking about editing tire height plays a huge roll in things was also going to add at odd even offset of gear for vibration

    • @JCTEAM60
      @JCTEAM60 2 года назад +1

      @@heathenprojects2639 thanks for the note on BMI kart. I have been looking for a solid calculator. Just started on mini bike mods and having fun!

  • @trucker2b
    @trucker2b 2 года назад +1

    I did this test on the highway 🛣️ and on my bike 🏍️ it has 17t front 42t rear .. so I top out 75mph ... I changed to a 17t front and 35t rear .. seems a bit more faster in each gear b4 each shift ..

    • @jlovee2211
      @jlovee2211 2 года назад

      nigga u got no torq

    • @emmanuelramos4772
      @emmanuelramos4772 9 месяцев назад

      What would you recommend for a 224 with a 10t clutch and a 50 rear sprocket tops out at 63

    • @trucker2b
      @trucker2b 9 месяцев назад

      @@emmanuelramos4772 if u want to try going faster at top speed drop 3 in the rear

    • @Rollback916
      @Rollback916 7 месяцев назад

      @@trucker2bI top out at 50 I’m running 420 chain on my db 10t cutch 42t rear what would u recommend for more top speed

  • @gloriabauer2392
    @gloriabauer2392 2 года назад +1

    Do you think the Briggs and Stratton out preforms the Predator 212 .

    • @samtarariverasanchez59
      @samtarariverasanchez59 3 месяца назад

      No Your pockets is what makes these engines perform as it should lol. The deeper the pockets the more any of these engines will run. Predator is equivalent to Ducar.

  • @MOE13576
    @MOE13576 2 года назад +1

    Do you know what can cause a torque converter to not fully engage ? (Dirty driver?)

    • @mlindsay527
      @mlindsay527 2 года назад +1

      Yes a dirty driver will have all sorts of problems. To maintain top performance (at 5000rpms), I had to clean and lube a Comet style driver every hour or so of use. Be sure to lube with a dry lube such as graphite or Molybendium (sp?).

    • @MOE13576
      @MOE13576 2 года назад

      @@mlindsay527 Thank you

  • @xavierarizmendez8001
    @xavierarizmendez8001 2 года назад +1

    Where do you buy the clutch guards from ?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      I added the link in the description

  • @pbedrook
    @pbedrook 2 года назад +1

    Wat speed meter app you use to testing 0-30

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      I use a Dragy performance meter for 0-30 times along with digiHUD on my phone and the camera GPS for top speed runs

  • @trucker2b
    @trucker2b 2 года назад +1

    Drop the rear.... And you will go faster....lower gear ratios is father higher gives more accurate ... Front sprocket alone won't change much...

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      Every tooth added to the clutch is equivalent to adding six teeth on the rear sprocket. Check out my other videos. I have tested many gear ratios.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      Check out my 70 MPH video. I did it with an 18 tooth clutch ruclips.net/video/8wVMdDTutPQ/видео.html

  • @cooper4783
    @cooper4783 2 года назад +1

    I still don’t know how you haven’t blew up a stock flywheel yet

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      I think I had the billet wheel on it in this one. I have did so many I cant remember.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      The Tillotson 212E Flywheel is rated at 8k RPM for 30 seconds and 10K RPM for 10 seconds. .

  • @kevinflora8493
    @kevinflora8493 2 года назад +1

    What’s the chain tool called

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      The link is in the description for the chain breaker

  • @spikemandan
    @spikemandan Год назад +1

    OMG hahahaha hahahaha

  • @darrellpearce9241
    @darrellpearce9241 2 года назад +1

    My only issue with the tests are. I’m not so much worried about top speed. I wanna ride 40mph easy on throttle yet have increbidle acceleration to about a top of 55.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      Lower gear with a 265 cam 22lb springs and the billet parts make an incredible bike. Not just top speed but great acceleration. Out of all the videos I have made this bike was the most fun. Here is the video ruclips.net/video/tj8XxfvMbRE/видео.html

  • @kmart014
    @kmart014 2 года назад +1

    What chain are you running? And where do you get a 15t and 18t clutch

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      The links are in the description for the clutches.

    • @hectorb1921
      @hectorb1921 2 года назад +1

      @@Black66 little late but link isn’t working anymore where else could I find one?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      @@hectorb1921 OMB has them www.ebay.com/itm/174947428063?epid=8012865165&hash=item28bbade6df:g:Z7oAAOSwVQJhSS1L