Why do bonfires cause violence in Northern Ireland?
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- Northern Ireland just experienced the worst week of violence in a couple of years, as tensions flared during the annual 12th week celebrations. The police attempted to crack down on dangerous bonfires over 200ft tall but we're targeted by masked youths, while in Derry/Londonderry gangs linked to dissident republicans threw petrol bombs at passing cars and attacked protestant estates.
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The 12th of July and week surrounding it are a celebration of Protestant culture in Northern Ireland, commemorating the victory of the protestant King William of Orange over the Catholic King James.
While Unionists claim that it is an important cultural event for their community, the nationalist and Catholic population of Northern Ireland believe it is sectarian and triumphalist.
Throughout history the week has been a flashpoint for violence between the two communities and more recently, the attacks have increasingly involved the police forces. It happens every year, but this year is the worst in a while and people are worrying that it might be a sign that the regular and serious violence is returning to Northern Ireland.
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Being from Germany - and with all respect to Irish and northern Irish culture... Burning car tyres and flags is not only not culture, it's kind of on the first Level of the dumbest and uncultivated things I've seen so far.
They have been long absent in Germany, but there are still neanderthals in Northern Ireland .
@@spareemail2221 Feck off its totally different.
A very English view on our historically British problem
Main thing is to mis-inform the British public as their governments central role in the conflict here
Basically
This video omitts way too much even for a most basic understanding
Don't kid urselves that this is some kind of Irish civil war
Successive British regime's have ensured conflict here long before Protestantism was even thought of
This is not a sectarian conflict between two rival Irish factions
This is the legacy of British colonialism
This video I'm sorry to say leaves out this fundamental point
Why?
Well. Shouldn't that be obvious my English *friends*
The loyalists started everything, they are the only ones that make those 20 story high bonfires and put the Irish tricolours on the the top of them as a sign of pure disrespect and nobody tries to stop them. While if republicans try to put a union flag on their 20 foot high bonfires the police have to get involved. The number of parades they have is just another sign of disrespect they even march on St Patrick's Day, a day supposed to be spent celebrating St Patrick bringing the Catholic faith to Ireland. But imagine if a republican tried to march on the 12th, they would be attacked and the attackers would be celebrated for it. On Easter Sunday this year there was a republican parade marching in memory of the Easter rising until they were stopped by the police, marchers were harassed, some were arrested and some elderly supporters were shoved to the ground by the police when attempting the arrest. After this I expected to see a police brutality report on the news but instead I found endless reports of Arlene foster describing the police as heroes and the marchers as terrorists supporters. It clear that there is just a complete double standard for the two communities and it's about time that some it started getting addressed.
You pedro haven't got a clue
Cannot wait for the loyalist hunts. No surrender allowed.
St Patrick is a British Saint.
and the lower themselves to the level of burning the proclamation of the irish republic... disgusting
D' House no the Ira started the troubles and caused the easter rising which started home rule, the Ira are scum and stopped Ireland from being united
Don't you know the basic history of your first colony?
This type of narrative is meant to gaslight the Irish people and anyone who questions imperialism.
Kekistani nationalist wait and see.
It was Wales
@@SG-hv8wj wrong. Wales was conquered. Ireland was planted.
in their heads, they're still fighting, they're still dying
Seems to me like loyalists and unionists are getting more and more antsy as Brexit approaches, and they should be, its only a matter of time until we have a united Ireland... FACT
Craig Wilson That's were you are wrong,if anything you are playing straight into OUR hands 👌😉
I don't know about that. United ireland. Good idear but Can't see it. Were would all the loyalist go
I believe they would stay where they are but they would now be UK citizens living in Ireland.A slow and peaceful approach is needed but to me Brexit is creating the perfect environment for uniting Ireland in the coming years.
WhiteGuiltXD I live in a border County and Im non religious, and honestly I welcome all the economical and cultural changes that a united IRE would bring, except violence of course. Unionists and Loyalist have little to gain and everything to loose from a united IRE so I dont expect your support but over time as the reality of Brexit settles in I believe the majority of the north will slowly stray toward a United Ireland.
WhiteGuiltXD Cheers and respect. I agree Brexit is disasterous and very unstable at the minute, hopefully UK and EU politicians will learn to be more responsible with the power they hold over the people
"Derry/Londonderry" If you are gonna call it Londonderry you might as well own it. Calling it both just annoys both sides. Good job on trying to be unbiased though, better than most British media on the topic.
Settle down dear - it's only semantics
It's Derry you sleepy inbred fuckwit.
Use of the term "Derry/Londonderry" is common in the British media as a, linguistically clumsy, attempt at neutrality. Does anyone have a better suggestion?
Doire...gaelic name dates back before londinium (first Roman settlement)...
was is not a gealic form of Derry or Freederry even before 1690??
Chip chip. They can have their silly marches and get dressed up as soldiers. Everyday is a day closer to a united Ireland. As certain as night follows day. The orange order is dying from within as the unionist youth have realised bigotry dosent solve social problems or put food on the table. Chip Chip chip chip
BD does the republic of Ireland want the north though?
Carson Red Course it does. We share this island and its our home it unnatural for it to be divided. We may have different ideologies but we had them same differences a century ago in the south. Youre not labeled by religion or political leanings youre just irish
BD yeah but in terms of the ACTUAL benefits of northern Ireland, not ideologies, coming from northern Ireland I know we only have a healthy business sector in banking and future technologies. That's it,
Kekistani nationalist
Chip chip. The middle class/ intelligent unionist can seethe writings on the wall. The post brexit 6 county economy will be a dead zone. Only the bitter brain dead loyalists cant see it and will be left behind like the Neanderthals they are. for crying out loud jolene bunting represents them.
Kekistani nationalist
Its not dissidents you need to be concerning yourself with its demographics. Unionists will be a minority soon. Belfast is a green city. You can beat your lambegs as loud as you want but nothing you do can change the fact the north of ireland will no longer be a statelet but a country again under the starry plough. Chip chip
Didn't know they had pallets in 1690.
They didn’t they just built it up in a pile
@@harryorr1880 And now they're burning car tyres and call it "culture" - haven't see something dumber and more uncultivated for a long time^^
Am I the only Unionist in NI who just calls it Derry? Just for simplicity
Douglas Ballantine no you are not I know a lot of people from the protestant community who call it Derry
boots Mclaughlin at least there's some over people
Douglas Ballantine Lol I’m Protestant and my parents would hit me if I dropped a ‘londonderry’
Huzzah men of quality🇮🇪🇬🇧
Nope I do it too
They need to have laws where to put them. It will keep the public safe.
Don't really mind it as long as its peaceful. Girl friend likes it. Though this safety issues must be addressed.
I live in Northern Ireland and grew up to not be interested in the bonfires and the marches as even though all my friends mindlessly went to these bonfires
I was able to watch the children's TV shows and to this day I don't attend any parades or go to any bonfires
Harking back to the days when they were in control, and could do as they pleased. Their time is finished!
Who's time ?
@@neo-9086 Who do you think?
@@countsmyth you tell me. Speak up 🙂
How long does it take an Orangewoman to have a shight? - 9 months!
They look like Towers of Babel. And where do all those pallets come from ? That's a years firewood and I don't remember bonfires that big when I lived in N Ireland ? You'd have to be nuts just to stand up there and build . I went to a protestant school , raised by non religious parents French was our 2nd language '' Why not the Irish language ''? Had a green white and gold pencil snatched out of my hand and confiscated by a TEACHER at school. I was at collage in Belfast when buildings were being blown up daily almost It was said that only the army had access to the particular kind of explosive used to kill and maim and destroy the city My ancestors are buried in Bangor Abbey '' real Bangorian''s '' apparently ? Other peoples race religion/philosophy , colour etc were never reasons to hate anyone. Ireland is magnificent in terms of its natural beauty but the people are heavily brainwashed .In fact can anyone even show me proof that king Billy ever set foot in N Ireland ?
This happens often in northern Ireland where I live...it smells like smoke most the time
You don’t even know the half of it.....
Its northern Ireland, what do you expect .its normal. Here in the south of Ireland, we just laugh at them. Shows them for what they really are.
Damian Houlihan least our churches don't rape the kids,, rather be protestant that a Catholic, , it's just the same as Islam kiddie fiddlers
Damian Houlihan you're a cert to know an alter boy that has been fingered
The kiddie fiddling among protestants is much more than among the Catholics. Take the incest out of NI protestants and all that's left is a sash.
My man if you look at somebody and ask.. is he one of us or one of them???... Your the problem.... We are one people... Universal...
Seán O'Nilbud it's a known fact that in Catholic ghettos your brother is usually your father
I think scotland should extend a hand and join in a new independent union ;)
Historically speaking, ethnicity, language, culturewise scotland and NI have more in common than ireland or england do
Solution: return Belfast and NI to its rightful owner Eire, capital city Dublin!
John Stephen solution. Independent nation, then we don't have to deal with bullshit from the unionists or nationalists
I wish there could be better ways to represent a country, Unfortunately Northern Ireland has opinions on it being a country or not and who it should and shouldn't be governed by.
Those raised Nationalist want to identify as Irish and don't see Northern Ireland as an existing country.
Those raised Unionists want to identify as British and want Northern Ireland to remain governed by Britain.
There are also those who identify as Northern Irish and choose to neglect British and Irish identities. However Nationalists may not see Northern Irish as a Nationality.
Nationalists don’t take part in these marches. Figures like the pope are also burned. Northern Ireland isn’t a country the United Kingdom is the country. Northern Ireland is a UK constituent. Also the battle of the Boyne was in county Meath/Louth, two of the 26 independent counties that make up the independent state of Éire often described as the Republic of Ireland.
What is that intro tune
hahaha i'm wondering the same... it's a bop!
I wonder how is Northern Ireland's air quality...
If only St. Ruth hadn't died at Aughrim, Imagine how different the country might have been....
“Often an Irish flag” they always place Irish flags and pictures of Irish politicians on their bonfires. It’s a strange cultural tradition of burning wooden pallets with 🇮🇪 on top.
So sad, so sad, Move on for the love of God!!!
Ulster needs to unite as its own
Well it's not even united as a whole you wanna border around your house so you can fly flegs and shout at Irish people in there own country
Not all prods hate catholics, but we do like to celebrate the 12th as a religious occasion
Kara mccreight which religious holiday is the 12 th of July?
Daniel skomp anniversary of the battle of the boyne, its protestant occasion to celebrate the victory of king William won over king James
So it is not religious at all simply sectarian, isn't Christiany fun?
From the middle east, Freedom to the Irish!
Anas Gheith. Terrorist brothers in arms
Or to be fair! If London must be attached to Derry; then you must add Derry to London, is Derrylondon okay?
Daniel skomp
As someone with Irish Catholic mother and half English and Protestant father, I find this argument extremely petty, and you guys need to grow up.
good video
Same Religion just a different flavour « Derry Girls » why can’t they just accept people have different views and live life? Québec has separatists and nationalists and there is peace and has been for a while. You still see the odd grafitti tag and political party sign, but never violence. Why can’t they both be Northern Irish and work together to create a safe place to live and leave politics out if it.
I live in North Ireland and I wish this was the case but it likely won't happen. The youth in the country have the hatred for the other political side placed into their minds
Cuz half of us still live in the stonge age.... Let's light fires and say oooga boooga.... duuuuur.
We will continue to celebrate wat we won. Great people fought and died for northern ireland to be part of the uk, i know they hav earned there place.
You can't fenced up stupidly
I'm Irish /English and lived in n Ireland for 10 yrs and loved it and alwas went to the 12th July no problem but live and let live please let's all try and live in peace for god and country Paul p Birmingham England ❤☺👍😀
A Northern Ireland in communtiy a divide to a non policy as goverment of London or a population as Northern Ireland to a long term.A in a length of time to a goverment of Northern Ireland.
Ease back on the methadone.
Seán O'Nilbud A Northern Ireland or a Ireland.
Richard Goode
I tried reading your post 3 times. I've no idea what you mean. You got two replies. What are you saying? I'd genuinely like to know. Cheers.
Con Cong A Northern Ireland as a country as a state in a policy of a goverment or a Ireland as a country.
Seen more culture in a live yogurt....
The Irish (North and South), the Welsh and the Scots have all made a conscious effort to keep their cultures fresh with new spins on dance, song language and food. They've done pretty well with it. Only the Unionists have nothing besides the marching season to call their own.
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Half of this video is incorrect lol
Do u guys think the republic will ever get the north back
Not a chance. It's a fairy tale.
I think it's more likely today with the news of the Scottish referendum
There's no London in derry sorry
It is British though.
Free derry eh? Irish every other day except giro day when it's British ££££
elitedonk your rite that's what all the fighting is the about Sherlock but not for very much longer table has turned
No surrender 🇬🇧
The Irish (North and South), the Welsh and the Scots have all made a conscious effort to keep their cultures fresh with new spins on dance, song language and food. They've done pretty well with it. Only the Unionists have nothing besides the marching season to call their own.
So what
"Starts mid-july, and last until October. That's 6months of marching"
Where did you learn that from, Diane Abbott?
Haha 1:05 my band 🇬🇧💙
BlueCafu 55
Rodents in uniform
Mate if yous were any more inbred yasd be a sandwich
Doughnut
At the end of the day that land is irish. They talk about how important their "culture" is yet they took someone else's culture from them for over 800 years. Please explain to me what the irish have done to you. We didnt take your country and force you to speak our language.
The vast majority of Catholics don't mind the orange marches. A high percentage of these marches are to a church for worship. Hard line republicans are happy enough to try & stop them or protest against people going to a place of worship.
It's also a known fact that to bolster their numbers in protests & riots against orange marches, republicans will bus in other republicans from 40/50 miles away, just to be offended.
It amazes me how people who are deeply offended by anything remotely British can still claim British benefits, spend British money, support British football teams.
Hypocrites.
jonny baxter do nationalist or Republicans March though loyalist or Protestant Estates I have been to many of the Orange Order marches and it's shocking to see the police presence at all these matches and I've also been to a lot of Republican nationalist marches where you'll never see the police nor do I see the the abuse of alcohol at Republican parades what's all that about can you tell me please
boots Mclaughlin they don't march through the estates they follow the main Roads.They don't march through the falls Rd the flashpoint at Ardoyne is in fact a mixed area behind the shops is a Catholic estate.
Richie Rich so what way do you think if it was the other way around and it was the Republicans doin all the marching for 6 months of the year republicans can't even walk though Belfast city centre without you lot start in trouble is come on call a speed a speed ffs
boots Mclaughlin I'm pretty sure the ardyone shops & the diamond in Londonderry are deemed shared spaces. Space for all not just 1 community to claim they own & protest about marches in that area.
Alas some people don't want to share, that's why they need to walk 400 yards into said areas to get offended.
Orange parades are more religious, republicans parades glorify terrorists. See the difference?
jonny baxter I'm sorry but Derry is a nationalist City the Bands walk through the city centre and bring it to a whole standstill where Traders have to clothes shops and lose business all to facilitate the Orange Order and what you're saying about shared space Republicans can't even walk through the centre of Belfast without trouble and protest from loyalists so you can't compare I have nothing against them marching they can March 52 weeks of the Year if they like in a field anywhere in the north of Ireland as long as they keep away from Catholic areas there would be no trouble at all do you get me
The knuckle draggers
Cultural expression = burning irish flags. Not the best way to express your culture 😂
Good Reporting.
kids problem!!!!
We have those marches in Scotland too. I hate it.
Couldn't even say the name of the Irish king against William of Orange?..
4:36
This whole report is so far of the mark. What they are saying is more a less true but its just not a true representation of the overwhelming majority in NI. For example 2 bonfires out of over 100 were considered an 'issue' yet this report focuses on those 2 bonfires. As the report mentions there is over 2500 parades in NI every year, maybe 5 areas would be considered an issue or extremely contentious? Again the report doesn't portray the hundreds of thousands of Ulster Protestants who along with their families had the most amazing 12th July celebrations every year. Always portraying negative stories and not the positive ones. I guess those headlines don't catch attention.
there is no ni just ireland and it s derry!!!
Let them march, the bonfires are our November the 5"th coming early lol.
The britts killed my halfbroder and kusin up RA
Movie Audio you're definitely an inbred, , probably better of cabbages like you running about
Kian Geraghty they obviously harmed your spelling and grammar as well 🇬🇧
Very very small disstruption we lads and girls having a beer or two. Police golden overtime for their holidays .
All that without mentioning the shots fired at the police in Londonderry 🤔
Monty16v and no mention of the man in the Waterside whose car was rammed and he was also shot it under the surveillance on the biggest police station in the waterside so please get your facts right you sound as bad as the politicians that are on this small part of Ireland
boots Mclaughlin you sound more like them to be honest lol
Come out ye black and tans...✊✊✊
Too many soy boys in this video. Who doesn't like a good bonfire!
What's your issue? They too hetero for your liking?
What a non-story. These bonfires are safe and cause no harm. What is more threatening is the cultural beliefs on both sides that prevent Ireland from moving forward
Culture hi
Don't forget, multiculturism & diversity is a strength..
Move all loyalists to the Malvinas/Falklands and let them wave their union jacks, and be loyal to the queen of England 3000 miles from england,
Opinions from two toffs who have never been to a bonefire
Tiocfaidh Ár Lá
3:21 *Irish Roman Catholic
Up the new Ira
NO SURRENDER THE POPES A BENDER YEEEOOOOO🇬🇧❤
It's you lot that keep stating you want to fck the Pope and have pride marches celebrating your 'Queen' Billy 😂😂
🇮🇪🇮🇪Derry 🇮🇪🇮🇪🍊💩
Who wants a wee cup of tea
QUIS SEPARABIT
Is the the IRA or Islam 😧😧😔😔😞😞😞????
Freya Jones no loyalist protestants!
Freya Jones Both........
freya jones; are you a prod or a moron i think both apply to you
I know what your talking about It's an Isis flag one mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist.
No surrender 🇬🇧
Scotland Boy know surrender