Missed out that the majority of Ulster planters were from the Anglo-Scottish borders, already used to frontier life. They would also make up most of the Appalachian frontier in the Thirteen Colonies
@@febweb17 Hill Billies or as they like to say, Scoth Irish, have nothing to do with Ireland.......they are of Duch heritage......even the English king understood their kind and sent them to Ireland to be rid of them.....they are of limited awareness the losers of the Appalachians...nothing will change their...... and the same kind in the deep South of the U.S.A....all related.
I have often wondered how Northen Ireland came to be and why there isn't a unified island nation of Ireland. Very informative and well-explained video.
There will be a United Ireland in the future, Brexit made it inevitable. Sinn Féin will be in charge of the gov in ROI by 2025 and are already the largest party in NI.
@@brendanshannon1706 Sinn Fein don't own Northern Ireland. Or have the power to decide about a united Ireland referendum. Nor do nationalists have a majority in Northern Ireland. There won't be one anytime soon.
What a waste of lives! Two religions, and can’t find any Christian leadership, belief in Politicians, instead! Greed stomps love and respect, every time! I better understand the influx of Irish migration to the new world! People wanted to take care of their families! They just wanted to get along, and see and enjoy their children and grandchildren! Ireland’s loss, our benefits! We appreciate and enjoy their company! A very sad story, from the beginning! Unfortunately, sadness probably isn’t over, and they are already celebrating the sadness! Thanks for a great addition to our country! 🎉❤
In the not too distant future, the unification of the Irish nation would be achieved. Even Star Trek mentioned that in an episode! Maybe even earlier than the reunification of the Korean peninsula and the Cypriot nation!
Did you know that Red Hugh O'Donnell 🇮🇪 ☘️ died in the Spanish town 🇪🇸 of Simancas (province of Valladolid)? Today he is remembered with a plaque in the center of Valladolid, where the Convent of San Francisco was located. This plaque is written in Irish 🇮🇪, English 🇬🇧 and Spanish 🇪🇸 and reads as follows: “Under this floor of the Convent of San Francisco, the heart of the life and spirituality of the people of Valladolid and mother house of San Pedro Regalado, are the remains of the Chapel of Wonders, where Christopher Columbus and the Irish hero Red Hugh O'Donnell were buried”.
The English gave the Irish Chieftains 30 days to leave or they would be massacred. O`Sullivan Beare rebelled but eventually ended up in Spain. His son joined the Spanish Navy to fight England. O`Sullivan Mór did not escape to Europe but he disappeared into the wilds of Kerry and became an annonymous commoner. This may have been because O`Sullivan Beare (like many of the Irish Chieftains) was recognized as a member of the European nobility by other Kings and rulers in Europe. O`Sullivan Mór had a significant towerhouse and lands in north west Cork but perhaps he was not considdered part of the nobility in Europe which is why he may have stayed in Ireland. His tower house and lands were stolen by the invaders.
that, good sir, is because the topic i was told to write was "how was northern Ireland colonized" lol. so i was not asked to cover southern ireland and naming the finished product was not up to me! @@CaptainArseways-pt4ud
Since the kingdoms of Ireland did not unite, it became a colony of the British. There is probably no land in the world that the British did not exploit.
Britain itself was colonized by the Normans French and Danish . I can think of very few countries that haven't colonized other countries at sometimes in their history.
Benjamin Franklin visited Ireland in1773 and was horrified by the poverty he saw there. He was afraid that if the American colonies remained under British rule, they would end up like Ireland.
His views were not as clear-cut as you suggest. This is a direct quote about his visit to the Irish Parliament which was entirely composed of Protestant nobility, "There are many brave spirits among them, the gentry are a very sensible, polite and friendly people. Their Parliament makes a most respectable figure, with a number of very good speakers in both parties, and able men of businesses."
My family always thought we were largely Irish but we checked and it turns out almost all of our "Irish" ancestors were in fact Ulster Plantationers, Protestants of either English or Scottish origin.
@@davvid977 From what I can gather, prior to the Irish Potato Famine, there really were exceptionally few Irish in America. Not a place most Catholics would want to be, as you can imagine - decidedly WASPy New England etc. Of course there was Maryland, and it seems one of my few authentically Irish ancestors was indeed a Butler progenitor from Maryland but yes almost all the other immigrants who were labeled as being from "Ireland" were really from what we could today Northern Ireland, which of course did not exist 200+ years ago, so while they were "Irish" in the sense that they were from the Emerald Isle, they were not ethnically or culturally Irish in any meaningful sense, being from the Plantation.
@@SamDiMentoIn Ireland we refer to the. “Potato Famine” as “The Great Hunger” as there was no famine as there was plenty of food available but access was controlled and it is now considered a genocide attempt by the British. Americans seem to always call it “Potato Famine” without understanding that it was not by choice that the Irish were dependent on potatoes but due to British land policies in Ireland at the time.
Ok thanks for the context. You can call it whatever you like and I will do the same. Incidentally, I don't think 'Great Hunger' sheds any more clarity, less actually, than the 'Potato Famine.' If you guys in Ireland think that makes it any more accurate, no one's stopping you. I did not come here to argue but I won't be instructed on a fact I well knew.@@murpho999
Well completely misses out that the first movement as such was Norman knights that invited over to assist one of the kings against other king. The Norman knights then started setting about establishing own area's and amassing wealth. Fearing this then Anjevin King of England Henry II persuaded Pope Adrian (First and Last English Pope) to award Henry the title of Lord of Island making Henry in charge of Ireland and bringing the Norman knights back under Henry's control. English Kings then using the title Lord of Ireland until Henry VIII who upon breaking from Rome could hardly use a Papal Issue to retain control over Ireland, Thus persuading what was supposedly Irish Parliament to grant him the title King of Ireland.
For security reasons mainly. And because Ulster can be viewed from Scotland on a clear day (only 12 miles away at its closest point) Not too bad logistically..
Not to offend or cause trouble, but the English conquest of Ireland began with the Anglo-Norman invasion under Henry 2 in the late 12th century. The landholdings and provinces captured then, were held all the way until Henry 8. The difference between them and the settlers under house Tudor, is that most of the Anglo-Normans assimilated and adopted into the Gaelic Irish culture and intermarried with the Irish nobility, becoming "More Irish than the Irish themselves" in the eyes of more anglophile settlers, giving rise to the Hiberno-Normans or Norman-Irish. This along with their continued alliegence to catholicism like their Gaelic Irish neighbours even after the reformation and founding of the Anglican church, caused conflict with the Crown as well as the new mostly protestant English settlers under Tudor. This meant that when the new English settlers under Tudor came, they displaced many of the old Anglo-Irish familes from their positions as community leaders and later as landholders.
That wouldn't offend or cause trouble. However, I would question the use of the term "English conquest". The Anglo-Normans who invaded Ireland were themselves invaders of England. They were a French-speaking aristocratic upper class who installed themselves into power in England through military conquest only 100 years prior. They did not speak the language or follow the customs of the common English people anymore than they spoke the language of the common Irish people. In other words, they were not "English". The majority of Norman nobles and the Monarch himself did not begin speaking English until the late 1300's, which is around the same sort of time they also began adopting Gaelic in Ireland. If you want to get even more pedantic, the majority of the "Anglo-Norman" nobles who moved over to Ireland were in fact from Wales (i.e. Cambro-Norman).
To be totally accurate Ireland was colonised initially by the Norse (Vikings), who founded Dublin, Limerick and Cork etc.. In the late 12th century Normans or Anglo-Normans, with a sizeable contingent of South Welsh, led by Richard de Clare, Earl of Pembroke AKA 'Strongbow' conquered large swathes of Ireland. Strongbow's ancestral lands were concentrated in South Wales. Henry II of England, actually a Frenchman of Angevin and Norman ancestry, claimed the overlordship of Ireland, with the Pope's sanction. Later there were large numbers of Scottish colonisers, especially in Ulster. The role of English people in this process was far from overwhelming, much less as unique as your title suggests.
@@djikopgot I'm sorry that you find facts inimical. The initial invasion was entirely a private venture cooked up by Strongbow and Diarmait Mac Murchada (Dermot MacMurrough), the exiled King of Leinster. Strongbow married Dermot's daughter, Aoife, to seal the deal. Strongbow and the other Anglo-Cambro-Norman warlords were wildly, and unexpectedly, successful in conquering large areas of Ireland. This was somewhat embarrassing for them as no permission from their overlord, King Henry II, for their conquests had been sought or given. Henry, then took an interest and demanded that the Anglo-Cambro-Norman and native Irish lords swear fealty to him for their lands, and he adopted the title 'Lord of Ireland' - which he later bestowed on his youngest son, John. If you think that this - which is all entirely factual - constitutes, " this whole thing was absolutely directed and put into action by England", as some sort of nationally directed scheme, then your idea of reality is very different from mine, and that of all reputable historians.
I should point out that the Pope, in his bull 'Laudabiliter', backed Henry's assumption of overlordship of all Ireland. This was because, at the time, it was the Anglo-Normans who were the good Catholics, and the Irish who were not, having many religious practices that the Papacy frowned on, such as simony, the marriage of priests and hereditary abbacies.
@@urseliusurgel4365- there is also another angle. The King of England is still styled Duke of Normandy. His inheritance from William the Conqueror ( a Northman/Norman descended from Rollo) whose claim for the throne descended from Norwegians Kings. The Vikings/Northman established Dublin and Limerick and their claims dated back to Norse Kings claim to Irish settlements. All of which were the inheritance on the King of England through William and the Norse inheritance.
Great video! Would like to point out that Irish “Gaelic” and Scottish “Gaelic” are pronounced differently with the latter being “Galick” without the strong A sound
England built their country. Education, the railway, universities, schools, hospitals, electricity, running water, medicine, sanitisation. Is Russia giving Ukraine that?
Northern Ireland was artificially drawn up on a map by the British so that they could ensure a permanent British-Protestant majority. However, today that no longer stands. Unionism is plummeting while the middle ground are rising. No one could have ever predicted that a Catholic woman would become primary leader of NI.
@@theawesomeman9821 It's an ethnic conflict, religion is just an identifier of which ethnicity you belong to. So if you're Protestant then you're an Ulster-Scot who wants to remain part of the UK and be British and if you're Catholic you're probably irish who wants unification with the republic.
@fyrdman2185 don't call it protestant. It is the english church (interesting story how this church is set up a d why)and they have nothing to do with Protestants from the Nordics, Germany, Netherlands et cetera
Good video thank you. Noone in Britain gives a hoot about Northern Island these days. They're desperately clinging on the to UK. I'm British but I am for Irish unity. NI would be better off that way economically now following brexit
Not sure it's the right niche but Schwerpunkt has just recently made a lot of videos about Medieval and Early Modern Irish history and warfare and an in-depth analysis about the Spanish and English strategy in 1588. Worth watching
The British government really jacked up Ireland over the centuries, but makes no effort to correct the wrong doing. It's the same situation with Scotland and Wales. It takes courage to admit you're wrong and swallow your pride, but the British government could make things better. The people in Northern Ireland who are Scottish and British are there because of what their ancestors had done, not because of anything they are doing, so perhaps the British government could make a repatriation deal with them, offering them money or property in England in exchange for relocating. Those who refuse to leave could stay where they are, with the understanding that Northern Ireland would be united with Ireland, and would be subject to Irish law. This could be a far more peaceful and less expensive deal than riots, war, and having to maintain security. The Irish would have to be open minded about those British and Scots who choose to remain.
Similar to how Albanians settled southern Serbia for centuries during the Ottoman Empire in an effort to increase the muslim population, then under communist rule as well. Christian Serbs were driven out and forbidden to return to their homes. Unfortunately we share a similar fate to the Irish.
Not all albanians are muslim especially not hundreds of years ago the christian albanian population percentage wise was much larger so what youre saying doesn't make much sense. And in the Kosovo war in the 90s the serbs also slaughtered many catholic albanians the biggest massacre was in Meja Gjakova where many catholic albanians live Gjakova was the most destroyed city and the whole area has 20% christians/catholics many villages are 90%+ catholic yet the serbs went there raped and assaulted catholic albanians.
Not all albanians are muslim especially not hundreds of years ago the christian albanian population percentage wise was much larger so what youre saying doesn't make much sense. And in the Kosovo war in the 90s the serbs also killed many catholic albanians the biggest massacre was in Meja Gjakova where many catholic albanians live Gjakova was the most destroyed city and the whole area has 20% christians/catholics many villages are 90%+ catholic yet the serbs went there raped and assaulted catholic albanians.
The proximity of Ireland to England from the days of the Normans through succeeding centuries, was surely a matter of concern to successive English monarchs when it came to the security of an England at risk from invasion by alien forces looking for a vulnerable launch-pad into England itself...later encountered from France and Germany in major military historical events that threatened not only England but far wider freedoms.
Prefacing this by saying personally my views are approximately in line with those of connolly but this arguably already happened, notably in the case of dál riata. Of course the tuatha and the unitary state of the british empire are fairly different in nature
Irish people were murdered by the British empire from the 16th century onwards. Then came the plantation of Ulster by the Scots. In history, I've never heard of the Welsh ever doing any of this to the Irish people. But if they were part of the back then, then they were probably involved. Our lands were taken, our people were starved and murdered by the British empire. Except same is happening today in Gaza to the Palestinian people.
I feel like Ireland and Slovenia have a simmilar history in terms of foreign rule being destructive in their countries, just like the Irish had their Catholic religion opressed and language destroyed by the English language and Protestant church, so did Slovenes lose most of their books and learning camps destroyed by the Catholics since those Slovnes in the 15-16 century that were Protestant wrote many books in Slovene and printed them aswell since then the new printing press was made, and they also had learning camps where even the elite of Slovene nobility became Protestant and gained even more national awernes but then the Austrians cracked down on them and destroyed everything and killed many people. Also UK mirrors the Austrian empire, with England = Austira, Scotland = Czech, and Slovenia = Irish/ in some cases also like Welish. Like Ireland was rulled by a Scotish King so was Slovenia by a Czech king, like Ireland lost land that is still in their original land so did Slovenia that hole in Northern Ireland is like the hole in Carinthia and Styria, cut up because of foreign ambitions. Lucky for Slovenia is we still have our language while Ireland almost lost theirs completely.
@@eze8970 For sure, yet Ireland was as original as you can get, having a celtic background and language, while England and Scotland both had a mix of people living there just like Austria where Germans like Normans came from the North and slowly started moving down south destroying and idea of a slavic culture, like the English did to Ireland. And like in Ireland where later on Scots fought against English rule aswell, so did the Czech and Slovenes fight against Austrians aka Bavarians. I feel like both cases mirrored eachother somewhat that's all.
@@Akhundelar_Far All of 'Britain' & Ireland was Celtic at one time. They traded with modern day France, & as far away as Phoenicia. They all fought amongst each other though, there was never a unified Britain or Ireland, just tribal areas. The Romans broke this up in Britain, then it was every tribe for itself. Some Irish tribes then invaded Scotland & Wales from the West, while other Germanic & Scandinavian tribes invaded from the North & East. The Scotti, an Irish tribe, gave their name to Scotland after invading, & had lands on both sides of the Irish Sea. Vikings also settled & established lands in Ireland. It's all a chaotic mix, with no real identified countries until later on (& even then, Irish & Scottish fought both against & with the Normans & those who became English, in whatever would give them the best deal). Religion then mixed this up again. Ex Picts & Caledonians Highlanders always saw themselves different tribally from the Lowland Scottish (from Ireland). In the last Jacobite/Scottish rebellion, as late as 1746, there were more 'Scottish' fighting with the British Army than with the Jacobean Scots! Your situation while it may have similarities at certain times, seems to be more clear cut.
It was main 1. Testing place for the expansion of the English later British Empire 2. Defence from using Ireland as a staging ground against for foreign invasion e.g by France and 3. Easy place to grow crops and export to the Kingdom of England, later Great Britain.
To stop raids from Ireland and then probably because there's a threat that ireland would be a staging ground for future invasions of England by rivals powers like Spain and France, so better conquer it just to be safe.
Seems they didn't have any reason except that they decided to conquer other people and decided they were 'lower class" or "uncivilized", which is obviously untrue. They decided to do it for power, money, resources and control.
Thank you for sharing. It was an informative and remarkable historical coverage video about a turned point of Irish peoples ( Galic people) . What a smartness and crucial method hidden behind ( agriculture plantation ) for British imperialistic vision in Ireland 🇮🇪 Island... imperial invaded always persuades harsh racism practices and religious prosecutions while only Nazism regime racism was notoriously evaluated
In northern Ireland today more people identify as Irish or Northern Irish rather than British. Although people would argue identifying as norn irish is also he same same as British 😂. Strange wee place we have but top notch people ☘️☘️
Everyone from here knows people who call themselves Northern Irish people are British. A catholic would just say they’re Irish and dislike the term “Northern Ireland”.
@@raymondhaskin9449 I think those that we're British but now class themselves to be "Northern Irish" is just another way of trying to embrace and connect themselves with the Irish identity seeing as for hundreds of years they didn't want anything to do with being Irish they had always just remained to be British only but only until recently the British only identity is in decline while the Irish and Northern Irish identities are rising. I personally don't think it's a good sign for Unionism and it surely must be giving favor towards nationalism.
@@tc2664 Nah. You know rightly Northern Ireland identity is British and loyalist. Catholics say they’re Irish and spit blood as the phrase “Northern Ireland”.
Very well presented, with the Fundamental points of purposes. (I'd be interested in this type of presentation to describe how Henry VIII convinced the People his perspective of Religion was necessary), when he clearly made the decision to serve his own desires. I can see a varied interpretation of perspectives, but I cant get the People just ignoring his personal gain, nor a cause to judge the Irish for refusing to accept his will. Never understood this. Irish/American Sociologist/Behavioralist and Historian
Please do a video on the history of the Luttrell family… good reliable sources are of information are hard to compile for anyone but worse for me. My patrilineal line is in that bloodline. 35th generation of direct male descendants. 1325 years and very little information about the family.
Just for interest, Britain consists of the mainland of England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain consists of Britain AND the islands. The UK is the United Kingdom of GREAT Britain and Northern Ireland
Ffs. The biggest difference between the Highlands and lowland scots is former were Catholic and sent many mercenaries to the european religious wars. Take rreligion out of the history and you make no sense.
A lot of those irish nobles carried on their legacy in Spain, for example, one of the most important politicians (and generals) of 19th century Spain was Leopoldo O´Donnel, descendant from the O´Donnel that fought against the English as shown in the video.
where there is greed there is death, a greedy person is like a dog looking at its reflection in a river, greedy for another bone tries to bite its reflection only end up losing the bone in its own mouth
My paternal ancestors were one of those many scottish settlers who settled in Ulster during the Ulster plantations. Anyone whose ancestors came from Scotland over to Ulster are called Ulster-Scots/Scots-Irish.
@legohistorytube.3148, No, they were always called, in America, Scots Irish. Go and look at the old graveyards or read the actual history for the description. This Ulster Scots thing is recent especially the the past 2 or 3 decades. And, by the way, the Presbyterians rose in thousands in the North of Ireland in 1798 and were killed in thousands as they carried the Green Flag with the Golden Harp fighting for an Irish Republic. They started the United Irishmen movement which eventually, in the middle 19th century and into the early 20th became the IRB and on to 1916. So your ancestors may have been more "Irish" than you thought. Cultural Irish runs deeper than "political" Irish.
@@legohistorytube.3148 , The important point is the "Ulster -Scots bit is recent revisionism. It has been brought in during the past fifty years since the Irish "troubles." When these people first left the shores of Ireland there was no "separate "Ulster" -that came in 1922. And it is only two thirds of the ancient province of Ulster. One third is in the Irish Republic. It is just like some try to say there was no Palestine. One other thing the Irish were known as Scotti in Roman times and an Irish tribe settled the western Highland of what became named Argyll and later the country was named after these Scots as Scotland. Robert Bruce's brother Edward was King of Ireland in the 13th century. He died there fighting against the English. If you ever go to Ireland it's on a high hill above the town of Dundalk in the Republic of Ireland. I wish you well.
@ccahill2322 I have been to both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. and also, I don't need you to tell me about the Ulster scots when I literally said that same thing in my original post!
@@legohistorytube.3148, I do not care where you've been. They were not "Ulster" Scots. They were Scots Irish. If you want to make up your own "history" please stay ignorant. Like the "Orangemen." "Ulster" is nine counties of Ireland. It has been "six county" Ulster since 1922. Good bye.
4:32 I think I just heard this part happen recently. I've been curious why Irish people supoorting Palestenian,and through this 12min video I understand why
The indigenous irish people were sold into the African slave markets by Norse invaders, The slave station were Dublin, Wexford & Cork. Ireland was recused and freed from slavery in the 11th century by William The Conqueror. The slavers have still not given up on enslaving the Irish,
As a Native American, we support the IRISH! Please do one video where the Irish influence is still relevant and important to Native Americans (U.S./Mexico when potato famine happened and Choctaw sent money to the starving Irish even after enduring the trail of tears). The Irish also defended Mexico against further conquest from Colonialism from the U.S.! For this reason, I wear green and help our Irish friends!
@@malcolmstead272 there were Irish on both sides of the American civil war, there were Irish fighting on both sides of the Napoleonic wars, there was Irish on both sides of the Spanish civil war, there were Irish fighting in the wars to liberate the countries of South America, there were Irish fighting in a lot of conflicts all over the world, a lot of the time fighting against other displaced Irish looking for a job.
@@malcolmstead272 the 7th cavalry had about 40% foreign born men mostly Irish and German, the point I'm making is the Irish did not join for ideology they joined because nothing else was open to them, they joined for food and pay. These were desperate men who fought all over the world because they had been displaced and homeless, they found refuge in the armies of the world look up The Wild Geese. It's not thr knife that cuts the bread.
There are probably more people of Irish descent living in the UK than there are in Ireland .Having broken free of British oppression in 1921 the Irish promptly relocated to Britain .Tens of thousands left during the following decades settling mainly in Liverpool Manchester Birmingham London etc and even many to Northern Ireland .seems British (oppression) wasn’t that bad !
Feck off. Loads went to America as well and new zealand. It was a dominant state till approximately 1947. Irish people died on the coffin ships on the way to the usa around around famine. On britain irish people who came to Britain were from the north of ireland and some of then came to escape the discrimation of the british loyalists. When your own kids speak with a britsh accent and is called edward people donnt cop you are irish. 😊
No they usually left because Ireland was a backwater country until the 90’s/2000’s. They left for work and better living conditions. Almost like the UK didn’t bother industrialising Ireland to the scale of England 🤔
Due to the downfall of Celtic people in continental Europe and British Isles gave rise to the world we live in today otherwise it would be a completely different world.
People forget after fall of western Roman Empire it was Ireland who taught the Germans to read and write Also Charlemagne claimed he was of Celt and Roman Heritage to justify his claim to the title emperor of the Romans ironically
@@NathanBee3Australia was empty with small indigenous population and land was then populated by the colonisers. Look at places like Ireland, India etc where the British occupation was not a good experience for the locals and a political mess was left behind.
It is very dangerous to draw a line at a convenient point in history, and ignore what went before. When the Normans invaded England, both Wales and Ireland were collections of small kingdoms, each one constantly fighting with its neighbours. The French rulers sent an army into Wales, recruiting locals as they went, then moved across the sea at the invitation of one of the local kings. Ireland was united, not as an independent nation, but under Norman rule, like the British mainland. Even further back in time, the Scots were not the original inhabitants of Scotland: they were invaders from Ireland. There is an irony in the part played by Scots in your video, taking back their ancient homeland. Consider Irish surnames that begin with "Fitz". It comes from the French "fils", (pronounced "feece") meaning "son".
Seems a bit odd to start at the Tudors considering anglo-irish and then an anglo-norman settlement had been ongoing for a millenia and many of the barons across Ireland were of very mixed heritage.
I think the Tudor era is a good time. Prior to this, while the conquests may have secured lands for Lords loyal to the English Crown, culturally, the majority of the island remained gaelic. Normans who'd come in conquest even became known as 'the New-Irish'. Also, the Tudor era brought the reformation too along with Henry VIII going against the Pope & naming himself King of Ireland, the first time Ireland was ever considered a Kingdom. (Previous title was Lord of Ireland & before the previous norman conquest, positions of High King were a different system, never really a true Kingdom)
After the black death Dublin, Cork and Limerick were made up by mostly Irish populations that even spoke Irish. Most of the old English were wiped out.
I would question why you would choose the title "colonized by the English" when you go on to explicitly state that Ireland was colonised by both the English and the Scottish. In fact, the Scottish ended up being a far larger proportion of the settler in the North.
@@windriver4527 I know plenty but I would love this channel take on it. You sensitive about me posing a statement 😂. You must be a hit with the ladies. Oops maybe I shouldn't have said hit, probably a touchy subject for you 😂😂
@@mistert4533 Not sure why you are trying to attack me personally… I just told you to do what I do when I want to learn something… but I see your point, let’s see if they do a video covering your topic
@@windriver4527 I felt under attack saying that I should educate myself. I was just merely giving a suggestion to Knowledgia on a topic that is quite interesting and be nice to see their take on it. But I wasn't demanding they do it. I apologise if you wasn't meaning it as an attack on me. Maybe I'm being too sensitive. No wonder I'm not a hit with the ladies 🤣🤣🤣
As a man who is part Scottish and Irish and English id like to say the Irish like to forget the Scots part in all this and blame the English only, yet Britain alone is in fact a mix of people the result of indigenous people and invasions from Germans French viking , roman nations so is any wonder what's happened and still the finger is pointed at the English like they are a pure breed of people
We should deport the Gaels from Scotland and give Pictland back to the closest relatives the Britons since Scots are Gaels from Ireland 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
Once again, we skip the entire Viking colonies of Ireland, which fuel the Norman ambition, of which England is simply the inheritor. And never mind that the Ulster Irish colonised northern Britain (Scotland) at the same time the Anglo-Saxons colonised the South.
There was no Viking colonies in Ireland you ignorant fool. And the English didn't inherit anything they colonised southern Ireland just as much as Northern Ireland in the 16th and 17th centuries, those people mixed with the native Irish they are known as new English or anglo-Irish.
Firstly, all borders are man made. And, you make it sound like the Northern Irish have the border imposed by Great Britain against their will when most there want it. I personally think it would be better if the two nations and people could trust each other and unite. But let's not pretend they are the same people. A lot of the Northern Irish are Scottish.
@@1969JohnnyM The colonisation should never have happened. But the aristocrats thought of the regular people as little more than property at the time so they would have seen it as no different than clearing trees or culling heards of deer. But once it has happened and you have a large portion of the colonist descendants as a majority in some areas, it becomes very complicated. I think some kind of charm offensive program over several generations might be a solution. The government of Ireland can pic the to 10% most handsome and beautiful young men and women and subsidise any who marry folks in NI. Within a few generation the population of NI will be mixed and more open to unification.
The border was a messy negotiation that in the end encompassed quite a few regions that at the time would rather have been in the Free State. So yes, it was a border imposed on a lot of people that didn't want it at the time. Due to it being created, there was a bit of movement: Unionists leaving the Free State & Nationalists leaving the UK. This addressed a little of the imbalance. Northern Ireland Unionists have never been so much about mistrusting Ireland as in more being incentivised and raised culturally to being obsessed with being a part of the UK. An Englishman I know was shocked after a recent visit at the vehemence many British identifying Northern Irish are so obsessed with being part of the UK. Uniting with Ireland in their eyes could only ever happen by Ireland re-joining the UK. At this time, the situation is changing. Many Northern Irish are looking towards the real issues. Parties such as the Alliance would rather work towards the bettering of Northern Ireland itself rather than worrying whether it's in the UK or Ireland. I could see them gaining ground & working on placing Northern Ireland in a unique powerful position: Open to both the UK & the EU (through Ireland), it's prosperity could be incredible. That'll all come down to how much fear Unionism can create to bolster its vote. The stronger that vote, the stronger Nationalism will grow too. And as everyone in Northern Ireland knows, unionists often go to Nationalist politicians if they need to get some actual issues resolved, because many Unionist Politicians are elitists.
Exactly. Northern Ireland wants to be British. Most have Scottish and English ancestry anyway. You only need to listen to the Ulster accent to know they’re basically Scots.
@@raymondhaskin9449You know that is a false statement. Northern Ireland is a place of people clearly wanting different things. It probably always will be.
A few additions in an effort to halt the erroneous teaching of history leading to racial hatred: 1) The people of the British Isles until the last 100 year are broadly of the same blood line. When the Romans and Danes invaded, many of these people (eg Celts, Picts, Anglo-Saxons, etc) moved to Scotland, Wales and Ireland, but the majority remained in England. The Normans made up the aristocracy and so married the resident aristocracy, but the majority of ordinary folk were no different from the rest of the islanders. 2) Ireland was not a single nation, but "divided politicially into shifting petty kingdoms and over-kingdoms" (Wiki) in a similar way to the rest of the world. And England was a different shape then and included Wales. Hence, a Norman king ruling most of England and Wales initially invaded some of the kingdoms on the island of Ireland then later a Scottish king did it some more. 3) The wars and divisions were led by the aspirations of royals and aristocrats and not out of some sense of a national identity as falsely taught today and the soldiers for both sides were ordinary folk of the same bloodline. Even in recent years, independence and separatist movements are led by middle and upper classes for their own benefit, who use propaganda (as included in this video) to persuade the working classes to fight for them. 4) As alluded to in point 2, the premise for a "united Ireland" is based solely on geography and the false history that it was united nation before British invasions. Why? Hispaniola is separated between Haiti and Dominican Republic. New Guinea is separated between 3 countries with East Timor formed in 1999. And domestically, a minority of Scots want to separate from the UK. 5) When one removes the false teaching of a historic united Irish state, it better helps people to understand the logic behind the decisions of yesteryear, which were based mostly on the religion, politics and power of the ruling classes. The terms Irish, Welsh, Scottish and English seem to have been formed to sell the motive of racial division to the people fighting the wars and dying.
Saying there was never a United Ireland is like saying there was never a United England or United Scotland. Germany could say the same, so could France. Most of the Island wanted a United Ireland after 1916. They viewed themselves as one people. You’re making a bullshit argument that most loyalists make trying to minimize the damage that was done to justify colonialism. I’m not buying it. Go preach to the oranges, they’ll swallow that whole.
This video is so wrong, it's unbelievable. Firstly, let's clarify some historical facts. Northern Ireland and Scotland have complex intertwined histories. The Scotti Irish tribe migrated across the Irish Sea into Pictland, which eventually became the Dál Riata kingdom. The Dál Riata kingdom evolved into the Lordship of the Isles, ruled by the MacDonald clan. During the 1500s, when England was embroiled in the War of the Roses, the Kingdom of Scotland dealt a significant blow to the Lordship of the Isles in an event known as Dubh's Rebellion, ending its autonomy(the Lordship of the isles was allied with england against kingdom of Scotland). When the King of Scotland ascended the English throne, he aimed to consolidate his power and suppress Gaelic culture. To achieve this, he continued Scottish policies and curtailed Gaelic autonomy. The matter of Northern Ireland is intricately tied to internal Scottish politics. Contrary to the belief that the English colonized Ireland, it was the Normans who played a significant role. In 1066, both the Normans and the Norwegians attacked England. The Normans emerged victorious, leading to the devastation of the northern English population, a period known as the Harrying of the North. In Ireland, the Kingdom of Leinster invited the Normans to secure their own interests. During this time, English was banned, and French was the language of law while Latin was used for religious matters in England and Ireland. By the 1500s, English nationality began to regain prominence, with William Shakespeare contributing around 1,700 new words to revitalize the previously dormant English language. Additionally, King Henry's split from the Norman Catholic Church marked a significant turning point. The core conflict revolves around England's departure from the Catholic Church's influence. This struggle wasn't solely about English Catholics or Irish ones; it was a broader narrative centered on disentangling England from the Norman oppressive system perpetuated by the Irish lordship and the Catholic Church. The ultimate goal was to break free from this system.
True, well its very hypocritical that the SCOTTISH KING which descents, he and his title from IRISH GAELS tries to extinguish the culture of his ancestors. Yes the Kingdom of Leinster did a big mistake inviting the Normans, but according to the RUclipsr "Fire of Learning" ruclips.net/video/fbJKanTrf8c/видео.html they would had come soon after, as the Norman were an adventurous people Talking about Normans, did they ruled the Lordship of Ireland as a single entity or was there many autonomous Duchies/Baronies and if yes how many were they (Hiberno-Norman Counties) ? I just know they fully integrated into Gaelic society, as the proverb says "More Irish than the Irish themselves"
Incorrect: King James was continuing Tudor policy in Ireland, the Ulster plantations is based on the Munster plantations of 1580, this is what it resembles in practices it doesn't have any connection to scotland despite you wishing it were so. The normans were English in Ireland they were referred to as English or old English by the Irish and they spoke middle english, this is a fact from all historical documents of the time, I can give you sources of the "Normans" in Ireland calling themselves English and speaking middle English, and the old English never conquered the whole island they were pushed to an area called the pale, a giant wall built to separate mostly Dublin from the rest of ireland. In 1550 Queen Mary the 1 attempted to expand English power in Ireland with the first planation scheme of king and queens county renamed in 1921 to Laos and offlay. Queen Elizbeth then under warham st legger and Richard Grenville established the first cooperate colonies in cork in 1569 which was the blue print for ards in 1570. Northern Ireland is not intertwined with Scottish politics the planation's were purely an Irish idea cooked up by the English monarchy.
@@CaptainArseways-pt4ud The MacDonnells of Antrim are the same MacDonald clan as the one from the Lordship of the Isles in the Scottish Western Isles. This is why Ulster Gaelic and Scottish Gaelic are similar when compared to standardized Irish.
@@HaiLsKuNkY I love how you just brushed over the history lesson I just gave you these are basic facts btw. It's debatable in regards to Ulster Irish it's on you to provide evidence, everything you have said so far has been just wrong. The similarity between Ulster Irish and Scottish could be because by your own admission Scottish Gaelic comes from Ulster Irish it's bound to have similarities. regardless anyway Scottish politics has nothing to do with Irish planation's in the 16th and 17th centuries.
I love how Americans tell the story of Ireland and the English, and get it so wrong, the Norman's started it all, where I live there is a castle built in the 1100s I live in Ulster, the Norman's/English were invited in by the Gealic Lords for help and stayed, but the Norman English became more Irish than the Irish, Get it right
It's just the usual mess of human power politics, which no one has ever stopped, dating back into antiquity. It's also more complicated that this video, which starts at only the 1500s, Both the British & Irish Celts (who still fought amongst themselves & doesn't mention post Roman Irish invasions of the British mainland or slave raids) got caught up in different Scandinavian families (& other invading nations) empire building, which fractured an already fractured society. Throw religion into the mix, & it gets worse...
@@eze8970 thanks for the response. Another answer I got was that the current agreement allows the people of Northern Ireland to vote to join the Republic, and they choose not to. I tend to think that the misuse of religion, rather than the teachings of either side, led to the worsening polarization. I’ve still got a lot to learn because it’s a very complicated subject as a whole.
@@bcampbell8344 It's not about religion, watch the video again, it's an ethnic conflict. Religious denomination is just an identifier of which ethnic group you belong to.
It didn't help that England and parts of Scotland became Protestant (16th - 18th centuries). Many areas remained Roman Catholic and frequently allied with Roman Catholic Spain, France vs. England. Like it or not, the Protestants won and were not going to forgive what they believed was treachery and betrayal. So, yup, BOTH sides fought dirty, and both sides were murderous.
The British fear Ireland. Because of the past the British were terrified of its enemies using Ireland as a jumping off point for the invasion of Britain. When the Protestant gained power the Irish remained Roman Catholic. The Catholic Spanish used Ireland, the Catholic Stuart dynasty tried it and Hitler's Germans, knowing of the hatred of Britain by the Irish, tried to curry favour with Ireland. I was born in England and emigrated to Australia in 1971. I would love to visit Ireland but the hatred of the British, specifically English, prevents me from doing so, even though I now identify as Australian.
😂 You are aware 300,000 British people now live in Ireland! There's more British in Ireland than. Irish in. Britain. Your chance of being targeted just for being british is close to zero. Per cent.
@@anthonym3351 No I wasn't aware of that. The reason I came to my conclusion is that many people who're from Ireland, and live in Australia, are openly critical/hostile toward the English. I would love to see Ireland and sink a few drinks with friendly people.
@@febweb17 In the pubs the Irish will cheer against English sports team etc but for day to day living, tourism etc no irish person would have any problem with someone just because they are British, more so against the British govt. It is similar to me in that I love America and american people but dislike America for invading other countries. Historically ireland was poor so many lived in Britain in recent decades ireland has become richer than britain and is a very attractive place for British to live
Should start with the Spanish Armada in 1588 when there was an attempt to convert England to Catholism by extreme force. That included the Spanish Inquisition and burning of protestants. Spain was a massive empire at this stage and England was small and poor. The Ulster aristocray sided with Spain and ran away when the Armada failed. England would have been stupid not to occupy it.
Each reason to kill was a "good reason" at that time... Destruction again and again. Centuries later, the matter is still there : culturally it's a big fail. And it killed people until 1990's. BIG fail.
Literally covers it here - Ulster aristocracy sided with the Spanish not because of muh Catholicism but because there had already been a colonisation attempt prior to the war by the Crown
@@cormacdonnelly365 Religion would still have been a major factor. All the local priests would be taking orders from the Pope, who would be resisting any challenge to his authority (& lets not forget reduction of taxes if lands went to another party). He wasn't alone though, it's the usual power politics, all the religious orders & social elites were battling for power, & the common people got caught up in it. Effectively happening since the Romans invaded.
@@eze8970 Eh I understand that argument but I'm skeptical of it - given the extent of Catholic Europe and the ability for information to flow at the time, it seems to me to be more a case of which local hierarchy ought to be followed - Catholic bishoprics or the incoming Anglican aristocracy. Agree with you though that it was the population itself that ended up suffering
Ireland was colonized by England, that's why the Irish fought for their independence when the potato famine took its tool and British did nothing to help the Irish, I love Ireland🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
that is an outright lie, more food entered ireland during the famine then left it, for reference England was heavily industrialized which is why food was being imported from ireland and the potato famine affected all of europe not just ireland, also stop bitching about "muh english colonialism" how do you think the Scots came to be?
Missed out that the majority of Ulster planters were from the Anglo-Scottish borders, already used to frontier life. They would also make up most of the Appalachian frontier in the Thirteen Colonies
Many were who went to the Appalachian Hills were fans of King William, know as Billy. Hence their name Hill Billies.
@@febweb17 Hill Billies or as they like to say, Scoth Irish, have nothing to do with Ireland.......they are of Duch heritage......even the English king understood their kind and sent them to Ireland to be rid of them.....they are of limited awareness the losers of the Appalachians...nothing will change their...... and the same kind in the deep South of the U.S.A....all related.
I have often wondered how Northen Ireland came to be and why there isn't a unified island nation of Ireland. Very informative and well-explained video.
It was one nation, but militant nationalists split the country by a violent independence revolt. Northern Protestants fought to remain British.
There will be a United Ireland in the future, Brexit made it inevitable. Sinn Féin will be in charge of the gov in ROI by 2025 and are already the largest party in NI.
@@brendanshannon1706 Sinn Fein don't own Northern Ireland. Or have the power to decide about a united Ireland referendum. Nor do nationalists have a majority in Northern Ireland. There won't be one anytime soon.
What a waste of lives! Two religions, and can’t find any Christian leadership, belief in Politicians, instead! Greed stomps love and respect, every time! I better understand the influx of Irish migration to the new world! People wanted to take care of their families! They just wanted to get along, and see and enjoy their children and grandchildren! Ireland’s loss, our benefits! We appreciate and enjoy their company! A very sad story, from the beginning! Unfortunately, sadness probably isn’t over, and they are already celebrating the sadness! Thanks for a great addition to our country! 🎉❤
In the not too distant future, the unification of the Irish nation would be achieved. Even Star Trek mentioned that in an episode! Maybe even earlier than the reunification of the Korean peninsula and the Cypriot nation!
Did you know that Red Hugh O'Donnell 🇮🇪 ☘️ died in the Spanish town 🇪🇸 of Simancas (province of Valladolid)?
Today he is remembered with a plaque in the center of Valladolid, where the Convent of San Francisco was located. This plaque is written in Irish 🇮🇪, English 🇬🇧 and Spanish 🇪🇸 and reads as follows: “Under this floor of the Convent of San Francisco, the heart of the life and spirituality of the people of Valladolid and mother house of San Pedro Regalado, are the remains of the Chapel of Wonders, where Christopher Columbus and the Irish hero Red Hugh O'Donnell were buried”.
Hell yea, always good to see heroes respected
AWESOME. ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️ R.I.P.
The English gave the Irish Chieftains 30 days to leave or they would be massacred. O`Sullivan Beare rebelled but eventually ended up in Spain. His son joined the Spanish Navy to fight England. O`Sullivan Mór did not escape to Europe but he disappeared into the wilds of Kerry and became an annonymous commoner. This may have been because O`Sullivan Beare (like many of the Irish Chieftains) was recognized as a member of the European nobility by other Kings and rulers in Europe. O`Sullivan Mór had a significant towerhouse and lands in north west Cork but perhaps he was not considdered part of the nobility in Europe which is why he may have stayed in Ireland. His tower house and lands were stolen by the invaders.
Ethnically cleansed from his own country.
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the troubles intensify
As an Irish this was very well explained and presented .
as the writer for this video, thank you! it's always so nice to know that the local populations approve of my work
Not really it completely brushed over the colonization of southern Ireland.
that, good sir, is because the topic i was told to write was "how was northern Ireland colonized" lol. so i was not asked to cover southern ireland and naming the finished product was not up to me! @@CaptainArseways-pt4ud
@@girlwithpudel Sneaky bastards!
“In the province of Ulster…” proceeds to show only 6 of the 9 counties of Ulster.
Fun fact: The Northern-most part of Ireland is NOT in "Northern" Ireland.
Since the kingdoms of Ireland did not unite, it became a colony of the British. There is probably no land in the world that the British did not exploit.
Someone should’ve stopped them
It's a lot more complicated than that. But also, normans had tech the gaels didn't.
@@Craicfox161cope.
Britain itself was colonized by the Normans French and Danish . I can think of very few countries that haven't colonized other countries at sometimes in their history.
Then again, there is probably no land in the world that the Irish did not migrate themselves to and exploit.
I love the Irish. ❤ from morocco.
They don’t love you- try going there now!
@@Kk-bq8swnonsense
You're more than welcome.
@@Kk-bq8swdon't spread such rubbish.
Why?
It’s “Derry” and the actual pronunciation of “Londonderry”, the first 6 letters are silent so still pronounced “Derry”
Benjamin Franklin visited Ireland in1773 and was horrified by the poverty he saw there. He was afraid that if the American colonies remained under British rule, they would end up like Ireland.
What about the mass immigration of irish in the American shores 1800's?
His views were not as clear-cut as you suggest. This is a direct quote about his visit to the Irish Parliament which was entirely composed of Protestant nobility, "There are many brave spirits among them, the gentry are a very sensible, polite and friendly people. Their Parliament makes a most respectable figure, with a number of very good speakers in both parties, and able men of businesses."
The British, leaving a murderous mess wherever they retreated from.
like islam
@@Gypsygeekfreak17 Islam is not a people 🙄
they're still at it disgracefully
@@Gypsygeekfreak17 islam wasn't mentioned in video but here you are 🤦🏼♂️
@@darkcrowsin666he isn’t wrong
My family always thought we were largely Irish but we checked and it turns out almost all of our "Irish" ancestors were in fact Ulster Plantationers, Protestants of either English or Scottish origin.
Glad you took the time to check.
Probably true for many Americans who claim Irish ancestry
@@davvid977 From what I can gather, prior to the Irish Potato Famine, there really were exceptionally few Irish in America. Not a place most Catholics would want to be, as you can imagine - decidedly WASPy New England etc. Of course there was Maryland, and it seems one of my few authentically Irish ancestors was indeed a Butler progenitor from Maryland but yes almost all the other immigrants who were labeled as being from "Ireland" were really from what we could today Northern Ireland, which of course did not exist 200+ years ago, so while they were "Irish" in the sense that they were from the Emerald Isle, they were not ethnically or culturally Irish in any meaningful sense, being from the Plantation.
@@SamDiMentoIn Ireland we refer to the. “Potato Famine” as “The Great Hunger” as there was no famine as there was plenty of food available but access was controlled and it is now considered a genocide attempt by the British. Americans seem to always call it “Potato Famine” without understanding that it was not by choice that the Irish were dependent on potatoes but due to British land policies in Ireland at the time.
Ok thanks for the context. You can call it whatever you like and I will do the same. Incidentally, I don't think 'Great Hunger' sheds any more clarity, less actually, than the 'Potato Famine.' If you guys in Ireland think that makes it any more accurate, no one's stopping you. I did not come here to argue but I won't be instructed on a fact I well knew.@@murpho999
Well completely misses out that the first movement as such was Norman knights that invited over to assist one of the kings against other king. The Norman knights then started setting about establishing own area's and amassing wealth.
Fearing this then Anjevin King of England Henry II persuaded Pope Adrian (First and Last English Pope) to award Henry the title of Lord of Island making Henry in charge of Ireland and bringing the Norman knights back under Henry's control.
English Kings then using the title Lord of Ireland until Henry VIII who upon breaking from Rome could hardly use a Papal Issue to retain control over Ireland,
Thus persuading what was supposedly Irish Parliament to grant him the title King of Ireland.
What a compelling documentary!
For security reasons mainly. And because Ulster can be viewed from Scotland on a clear day (only 12 miles away at its closest point) Not too bad logistically..
Great documentary!
Nicely informative video
Not to offend or cause trouble, but the English conquest of Ireland began with the Anglo-Norman invasion under Henry 2 in the late 12th century. The landholdings and provinces captured then, were held all the way until Henry 8. The difference between them and the settlers under house Tudor, is that most of the Anglo-Normans assimilated and adopted into the Gaelic Irish culture and intermarried with the Irish nobility, becoming "More Irish than the Irish themselves" in the eyes of more anglophile settlers, giving rise to the Hiberno-Normans or Norman-Irish. This along with their continued alliegence to catholicism like their Gaelic Irish neighbours even after the reformation and founding of the Anglican church, caused conflict with the Crown as well as the new mostly protestant English settlers under Tudor. This meant that when the new English settlers under Tudor came, they displaced many of the old Anglo-Irish familes from their positions as community leaders and later as landholders.
That wouldn't offend or cause trouble. However, I would question the use of the term "English conquest". The Anglo-Normans who invaded Ireland were themselves invaders of England. They were a French-speaking aristocratic upper class who installed themselves into power in England through military conquest only 100 years prior. They did not speak the language or follow the customs of the common English people anymore than they spoke the language of the common Irish people. In other words, they were not "English". The majority of Norman nobles and the Monarch himself did not begin speaking English until the late 1300's, which is around the same sort of time they also began adopting Gaelic in Ireland.
If you want to get even more pedantic, the majority of the "Anglo-Norman" nobles who moved over to Ireland were in fact from Wales (i.e. Cambro-Norman).
Love this. The video was informative, useful, and helpful.
To be totally accurate Ireland was colonised initially by the Norse (Vikings), who founded Dublin, Limerick and Cork etc.. In the late 12th century Normans or Anglo-Normans, with a sizeable contingent of South Welsh, led by Richard de Clare, Earl of Pembroke AKA 'Strongbow' conquered large swathes of Ireland. Strongbow's ancestral lands were concentrated in South Wales. Henry II of England, actually a Frenchman of Angevin and Norman ancestry, claimed the overlordship of Ireland, with the Pope's sanction. Later there were large numbers of Scottish colonisers, especially in Ulster. The role of English people in this process was far from overwhelming, much less as unique as your title suggests.
Stop minimizing everything. Yes, history is not black and white, but this whole thing was absolutely directed and put into action by England.
@@djikopgot I'm sorry that you find facts inimical. The initial invasion was entirely a private venture cooked up by Strongbow and Diarmait Mac Murchada (Dermot MacMurrough), the exiled King of Leinster. Strongbow married Dermot's daughter, Aoife, to seal the deal. Strongbow and the other Anglo-Cambro-Norman warlords were wildly, and unexpectedly, successful in conquering large areas of Ireland. This was somewhat embarrassing for them as no permission from their overlord, King Henry II, for their conquests had been sought or given. Henry, then took an interest and demanded that the Anglo-Cambro-Norman and native Irish lords swear fealty to him for their lands, and he adopted the title 'Lord of Ireland' - which he later bestowed on his youngest son, John. If you think that this - which is all entirely factual - constitutes, " this whole thing was absolutely directed and put into action by England", as some sort of nationally directed scheme, then your idea of reality is very different from mine, and that of all reputable historians.
I should point out that the Pope, in his bull 'Laudabiliter', backed Henry's assumption of overlordship of all Ireland. This was because, at the time, it was the Anglo-Normans who were the good Catholics, and the Irish who were not, having many religious practices that the Papacy frowned on, such as simony, the marriage of priests and hereditary abbacies.
@@urseliusurgel4365- there is also another angle. The King of England is still styled Duke of Normandy. His inheritance from William the Conqueror ( a Northman/Norman descended from Rollo) whose claim for the throne descended from Norwegians Kings. The Vikings/Northman established Dublin and Limerick and their claims dated back to Norse Kings claim to Irish settlements. All of which were the inheritance on the King of England through William and the Norse inheritance.
I’m not saying it’s right I’m just pointing out the motivation and connection.
Great video! Would like to point out that Irish “Gaelic” and Scottish “Gaelic” are pronounced differently with the latter being “Galick” without the strong A sound
@@eudaimonnLickGays
U mean scots pronounce gaelic exactly like the word ’garlic’?
Is the Irish version pronounced with the A in 'Age' and the Scottish version with the A in 'Apple'?
@@Nightzo yes you explained it better!
@iolarmara490 literally different vocabulary, phonetics and grammar but okay :)
I really wanna visit Ireland hopefully i will have enough savings and time one day
England treated Ireland worse than Russia is treating Ukraine now.
Bollocks
😂 have a look what they did to Wales. 600 castles they built making it the most occupied country in Europe at the time.
@@alynwillams4297 the French normans built most of them, as well you know. These were the same people who occupied England at the time.
England built their country. Education, the railway, universities, schools, hospitals, electricity, running water, medicine, sanitisation. Is Russia giving Ukraine that?
nice video
Northern Ireland was artificially drawn up on a map by the British so that they could ensure a permanent British-Protestant majority. However, today that no longer stands. Unionism is plummeting while the middle ground are rising. No one could have ever predicted that a Catholic woman would become primary leader of NI.
So is the conflict really about religion? Or is it about preference in whether to remain with Britain?
@@theawesomeman9821in the past it was religion, now its mostly politics & loyalist cheerleaders
@@theawesomeman9821 It's an ethnic conflict, religion is just an identifier of which ethnicity you belong to. So if you're Protestant then you're an Ulster-Scot who wants to remain part of the UK and be British and if you're Catholic you're probably irish who wants unification with the republic.
@fyrdman2185 don't call it protestant. It is the english church (interesting story how this church is set up a d why)and they have nothing to do with Protestants from the Nordics, Germany, Netherlands et cetera
@@jsparrow2563 But it's not the Anglican Church though, most of them are Presbyterians.
Thanks for sharing 😊
no mention of Oliver Cromwell? everything i've heard suggests he was really bad for the Irish
He was
He deported many Irish children to Jamaica where they were made to live in inhumane conditions
Cromwell was a great man.
Good video thank you. Noone in Britain gives a hoot about Northern Island these days. They're desperately clinging on the to UK. I'm British but I am for Irish unity. NI would be better off that way economically now following brexit
That's cos modern Britain is Pakistani
We don’t want them. They don’t benefit anyone via reunification
Always felt there should be a united Ireland.
why?
No one cares about your feelings
@@fyrdman2185No one cares about British opinions
It'll be interesting to see what Eire does to accomodate the British element.
@@HaiLsKuNkYShouldn't people be in charge of their own home?
Not sure it's the right niche but Schwerpunkt has just recently made a lot of videos about Medieval and Early Modern Irish history and warfare and an in-depth analysis about the Spanish and English strategy in 1588. Worth watching
Can't wait to see the civilised discussion in the comments...
I'm sure they'll be lots of unbiased serious academic discussions
*civilized
@@wazzup233 it's spelt with an s in UK English
The British government really jacked up Ireland over the centuries, but makes no effort to correct the wrong doing. It's the same situation with Scotland and Wales. It takes courage to admit you're wrong and swallow your pride, but the British government could make things better.
The people in Northern Ireland who are Scottish and British are there because of what their ancestors had done, not because of anything they are doing, so perhaps the British government could make a repatriation deal with them, offering them money or property in England in exchange for relocating. Those who refuse to leave could stay where they are, with the understanding that Northern Ireland would be united with Ireland, and would be subject to Irish law. This could be a far more peaceful and less expensive deal than riots, war, and having to maintain security. The Irish would have to be open minded about those British and Scots who choose to remain.
Similar to how Albanians settled southern Serbia for centuries during the Ottoman Empire in an effort to increase the muslim population, then under communist rule as well. Christian Serbs were driven out and forbidden to return to their homes. Unfortunately we share a similar fate to the Irish.
Kosovo is albanian
Not all albanians are muslim especially not hundreds of years ago the christian albanian population percentage wise was much larger so what youre saying doesn't make much sense. And in the Kosovo war in the 90s the serbs also slaughtered many catholic albanians the biggest massacre was in Meja Gjakova where many catholic albanians live Gjakova was the most destroyed city and the whole area has 20% christians/catholics many villages are 90%+ catholic yet the serbs went there raped and assaulted catholic albanians.
Not all albanians are muslim especially not hundreds of years ago the christian albanian population percentage wise was much larger so what youre saying doesn't make much sense. And in the Kosovo war in the 90s the serbs also killed many catholic albanians the biggest massacre was in Meja Gjakova where many catholic albanians live Gjakova was the most destroyed city and the whole area has 20% christians/catholics many villages are 90%+ catholic yet the serbs went there raped and assaulted catholic albanians.
The demographics shifted back and forth over time but Albanians have always been in Kosovo in large numbers.
The proximity of Ireland to England from the days of the Normans through succeeding centuries, was surely a matter of concern
to successive English monarchs when it came to the security of an England at risk from invasion by alien forces looking for
a vulnerable launch-pad into England itself...later encountered from France and Germany in major military historical events
that threatened not only England but far wider freedoms.
How would the British feel if Ireland owned part of England or part of Scotland
We just going to miss out Wales? 😂
Well if you consider the amount of Catholic Irish and their descendants living in Britain as economic !migrants
Prefacing this by saying personally my views are approximately in line with those of connolly but this arguably already happened, notably in the case of dál riata. Of course the tuatha and the unitary state of the british empire are fairly different in nature
Irish people were murdered by the British empire from the 16th century onwards. Then came the plantation of Ulster by the Scots. In history, I've never heard of the Welsh ever doing any of this to the Irish people. But if they were part of the back then, then they were probably involved. Our lands were taken, our people were starved and murdered by the British empire. Except same is happening today in Gaza to the Palestinian people.
Exact
I feel like Ireland and Slovenia have a simmilar history in terms of foreign rule being destructive in their countries, just like the Irish had their Catholic religion opressed and language destroyed by the English language and Protestant church, so did Slovenes lose most of their books and learning camps destroyed by the Catholics since those Slovnes in the 15-16 century that were Protestant wrote many books in Slovene and printed them aswell since then the new printing press was made, and they also had learning camps where even the elite of Slovene nobility became Protestant and gained even more national awernes but then the Austrians cracked down on them and destroyed everything and killed many people.
Also UK mirrors the Austrian empire, with England = Austira, Scotland = Czech, and Slovenia = Irish/ in some cases also like Welish. Like Ireland was rulled by a Scotish King so was Slovenia by a Czech king, like Ireland lost land that is still in their original land so did Slovenia that hole in Northern Ireland is like the hole in Carinthia and Styria, cut up because of foreign ambitions.
Lucky for Slovenia is we still have our language while Ireland almost lost theirs completely.
Don't forget how much of Britain's lands, people, religion, laws & rulers changed from the time of the Roman invasion onwards.
@@eze8970 For sure, yet Ireland was as original as you can get, having a celtic background and language, while England and Scotland both had a mix of people living there just like Austria where Germans like Normans came from the North and slowly started moving down south destroying and idea of a slavic culture, like the English did to Ireland. And like in Ireland where later on Scots fought against English rule aswell, so did the Czech and Slovenes fight against Austrians aka Bavarians. I feel like both cases mirrored eachother somewhat that's all.
@@Akhundelar_Far All of 'Britain' & Ireland was Celtic at one time. They traded with modern day France, & as far away as Phoenicia. They all fought amongst each other though, there was never a unified Britain or Ireland, just tribal areas.
The Romans broke this up in Britain, then it was every tribe for itself. Some Irish tribes then invaded Scotland & Wales from the West, while other Germanic & Scandinavian tribes invaded from the North & East. The Scotti, an Irish tribe, gave their name to Scotland after invading, & had lands on both sides of the Irish Sea.
Vikings also settled & established lands in Ireland.
It's all a chaotic mix, with no real identified countries until later on (& even then, Irish & Scottish fought both against & with the Normans & those who became English, in whatever would give them the best deal). Religion then mixed this up again.
Ex Picts & Caledonians Highlanders always saw themselves different tribally from the Lowland Scottish (from Ireland).
In the last Jacobite/Scottish rebellion, as late as 1746, there were more 'Scottish' fighting with the British Army than with the Jacobean Scots!
Your situation while it may have similarities at certain times, seems to be more clear cut.
Wales isn't part of england .your maps are incorrect.
Wales was part of England back then
It's always great hearing someone else not from Ireland telling us about it..
It’s almost like people from all over the world can research world history and articulate it to others.
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All of these videos have been very interesting
But I'm still waiting for Skanderbeg part 2 lol
Then wait.
James: "You don't think this'll cause any problems down the line, do you?"
It was main 1. Testing place for the expansion of the English later British Empire 2. Defence from using Ireland as a staging ground against for foreign invasion e.g by France and 3. Easy place to grow crops and export to the Kingdom of England, later Great Britain.
So why did they want to colonize Ireland? That was not very clearly explained.
To stop raids from Ireland and then probably because there's a threat that ireland would be a staging ground for future invasions of England by rivals powers like Spain and France, so better conquer it just to be safe.
Seems they didn't have any reason except that they decided to conquer other people and decided they were 'lower class" or "uncivilized", which is obviously untrue. They decided to do it for power, money, resources and control.
Because they are greedy, theiving obnoxious bastards. Simple as!
Why did they colonise the other countries? Same reason
@@xragdoll5662 Why did they colonise the other countries?
Thank you for sharing. It was an informative and remarkable historical coverage video about a turned point of Irish peoples ( Galic people) . What a smartness and crucial method hidden behind ( agriculture plantation ) for British imperialistic vision in Ireland 🇮🇪 Island... imperial invaded always persuades harsh racism practices and religious prosecutions while only Nazism regime racism was notoriously evaluated
Hugh O'Donnell is my 17th great grandfather. I decend from his grandson Calvagh O'Donnell Lord of Tyraconnel.
yeh and i'm descended from the wicked witch of the west bro
@@JohnAbbe1 Don't be a jerk off because your momma doesn't know who your daddy is.
Yeah and I'm of Clan Rose descended from Scottish Highlanders. Not the flex you think it is bro lol
You know you have over 70,000 17th great grandfathers. Check for a pope or two and Gandhi while you're at it.
I'm related to Cromwell
The 6 counties, It’s not a country it’s not a statlet it’s part of a province, but it’s not the whole province. It’s not a country.
Yes it is.
Fud
@@geordiewishart1683 it has a unique status. People in the six counties can identify as Irish and be Irish citizens or British citizens it’s a choice
Partition... the Brits' solution to everything.
Cry much
Whats the alternative?
@@themaestro3034leaving Ireland to have their own state without UK jurisdiction on the island of Ireland
@@conorspence5332 you already got that boggy wetland to yourself, who you mean? The Scotts who took the good parts? 😆
@@themaestro3034 it doesn't take a genius to know there will always be problems with splitting up a small island
*stares in Welsh*
Are we a joke to you?
The world doesn’t even know that wales exists
Ireland was first colonized by the Normans who had brutally colonized England 100 years previously.
In northern Ireland today more people identify as Irish or Northern Irish rather than British. Although people would argue identifying as norn irish is also he same same as British 😂. Strange wee place we have but top notch people ☘️☘️
Everyone from here knows people who call themselves Northern Irish people are British.
A catholic would just say they’re Irish and dislike the term “Northern Ireland”.
@@raymondhaskin9449 I think those that we're British but now class themselves to be "Northern Irish" is just another way of trying to embrace and connect themselves with the Irish identity seeing as for hundreds of years they didn't want anything to do with being Irish they had always just remained to be British only but only until recently the British only identity is in decline while the Irish and Northern Irish identities are rising. I personally don't think it's a good sign for Unionism and it surely must be giving favor towards nationalism.
@@tc2664
Nah. You know rightly Northern Ireland identity is British and loyalist.
Catholics say they’re Irish and spit blood as the phrase “Northern Ireland”.
I mean the northern irish are cucked for STILL licking british boots.
You can be British Irish surely?
Very well presented, with the Fundamental points of purposes. (I'd be interested in this type of presentation to describe how Henry VIII convinced the People his perspective of Religion was necessary), when he clearly made the decision to serve his own desires. I can see a varied interpretation of perspectives, but I cant get the People just ignoring his personal gain, nor a cause to judge the Irish for refusing to accept his will.
Never understood this.
Irish/American
Sociologist/Behavioralist
and Historian
Please do a video on the history of the Luttrell family… good reliable sources are of information are hard to compile for anyone but worse for me. My patrilineal line is in that bloodline. 35th generation of direct male descendants. 1325 years and very little information about the family.
Just for interest Britain means England, Scotland,and Wales. UK is the same but with the addition of Northern Ireland.
Just for interest, Britain consists of the mainland of England, Scotland and Wales.
Great Britain consists of Britain AND the islands.
The UK is the United Kingdom of GREAT Britain and Northern Ireland
Ffs. The biggest difference between the Highlands and lowland scots is former were Catholic and sent many mercenaries to the european religious wars.
Take rreligion out of the history and you make no sense.
Ireland wasn’t colonised by the English. It was colonised by the Normans. The King and nobles who invaded couldn’t even speak English.
Then why are they there now? Well, because they did invade smart-ass.
Anglo-Normans technically.
My ancestors were from NW England and migrated to Ulster (County of Armagh) in 1703.
How I wish more people in Ireland understood this.
@@mrmarcus111why would that be relevant to them when part of Ireland is still occupied?!
A lot of those irish nobles carried on their legacy in Spain, for example, one of the most important politicians (and generals) of 19th century Spain was Leopoldo O´Donnel, descendant from the O´Donnel that fought against the English as shown in the video.
Leopoldo O’Donnel, the guy responsible for the massacre of thousands of slaves in Cuba? Sounds like a nice chap.
where there is greed there is death, a greedy person is like a dog looking at its reflection in a river, greedy for another bone tries to bite its reflection only end up losing the bone in its own mouth
Can someone please explain to me why Wales isn't on this map?
In a perfect world, the whole island would be Irish. Sadly, history tends to complicate things.
In a perfect world people wouldn’t care about ethnic divisions or nationality
It is basically Somalia these days.
@@jarrodbedelen Lol what?
@@iamjohnfarlow I don't have a problem with having a nationality.
@@magellanicspaceclouds Sorry I wasn’t referring to you, I should have been more clear.
My paternal ancestors were one of those many scottish settlers who settled in Ulster during the Ulster plantations. Anyone whose ancestors came from Scotland over to Ulster are called Ulster-Scots/Scots-Irish.
@legohistorytube.3148, No, they were always called, in America, Scots Irish. Go and look at the old graveyards or read the actual history for the description. This Ulster Scots thing is recent especially the the past 2 or 3 decades. And, by the way, the Presbyterians rose in thousands in the North of Ireland in 1798 and were killed in thousands as they carried the Green Flag with the Golden Harp fighting for an Irish Republic. They started the United Irishmen movement which eventually, in the middle 19th century and into the early 20th became the IRB and on to 1916. So your ancestors may have been more "Irish" than you thought. Cultural Irish runs deeper than "political" Irish.
@ccahill2322 I know that they were only called Scots Irish in America, I was just saying that they were called either the Ulster-scots or Scots Irish
@@legohistorytube.3148 , The important point is the "Ulster -Scots bit is recent revisionism. It has been brought in during the past fifty years since the Irish "troubles." When these people first left the shores of Ireland there was no "separate "Ulster" -that came in 1922. And it is only two thirds of the ancient province of Ulster. One third is in the Irish Republic. It is just like some try to say there was no Palestine. One other thing the Irish were known as Scotti in Roman times and an Irish tribe settled the western Highland of what became named Argyll and later the country was named after these Scots as Scotland. Robert Bruce's brother Edward was King of Ireland in the 13th century. He died there fighting against the English. If you ever go to Ireland it's on a high hill above the town of Dundalk in the Republic of Ireland. I wish you well.
@ccahill2322 I have been to both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. and also, I don't need you to tell me about the Ulster scots when I literally said that same thing in my original post!
@@legohistorytube.3148, I do not care where you've been. They were not "Ulster" Scots. They were Scots Irish. If you want to make up your own "history" please stay ignorant. Like the "Orangemen." "Ulster" is nine counties of Ireland. It has been "six county" Ulster since 1922. Good bye.
4:32 I think I just heard this part happen recently.
I've been curious why Irish people supoorting Palestenian,and through this 12min video I understand why
How the English conquered Ireland? With a further video about Irish Independence (Liberation of Republic of Ireland)?
Or How Ireland was conquered by the British.
You mean enslaved us
@@Ceiteach.O.DuibhirI'm curious, are there recorded instances of the British enslaving the Irish?
@@stephenkenney8290no. Only the Vikings
The indigenous irish people were sold into the African slave markets by Norse invaders, The slave station were Dublin, Wexford & Cork.
Ireland was recused and freed from slavery in the 11th century by William The Conqueror.
The slavers have still not given up on enslaving the Irish,
As a Native American, we support the IRISH!
Please do one video where the Irish influence is still relevant and important to Native Americans (U.S./Mexico when potato famine happened and Choctaw sent money to the starving Irish even after enduring the trail of tears).
The Irish also defended Mexico against further conquest from Colonialism from the U.S.!
For this reason, I wear green and help our Irish friends!
Thank you for your kind throughs and actions
Do you know who manned the 7th cavalry? Garryowen was their nickname, Myles Keogh, Custer and many more were Irish.
@@malcolmstead272 there were Irish on both sides of the American civil war, there were Irish fighting on both sides of the Napoleonic wars, there was Irish on both sides of the Spanish civil war, there were Irish fighting in the wars to liberate the countries of South America, there were Irish fighting in a lot of conflicts all over the world, a lot of the time fighting against other displaced Irish looking for a job.
@@rudithedog7534 You have missed the point completely, The 7th Cavalry were mainly Irish and massacred the Native Americans!
@@malcolmstead272 the 7th cavalry had about 40% foreign born men mostly Irish and German, the point I'm making is the Irish did not join for ideology they joined because nothing else was open to them, they joined for food and pay. These were desperate men who fought all over the world because they had been displaced and homeless, they found refuge in the armies of the world look up The Wild Geese. It's not thr knife that cuts the bread.
My grandmother would tell me her people were Irish-Scots, who went to Scotland from Ireland. I suppose they were Dal Riatan.
@vanzarockin........no irish came to scotland. any movements of peoples was from scotland to ireland.
Shouldn't the tile say British?
Fydrdman2185 seems to think he is the Norman Viking spokesman, I had to do it this way because he blocked me . I think he was getting a little upset😮
What are you on about? And who are you?
@@fyrdman2185I'm me who are you.
@@briansewell6241 You're the one who tagged me pal
There are probably more people of Irish descent living in the UK than there are in Ireland .Having broken free of British oppression in 1921 the Irish promptly relocated to Britain .Tens of thousands left during the following decades settling mainly in Liverpool Manchester Birmingham London etc and even many to Northern Ireland .seems British (oppression) wasn’t that bad !
Feck off. Loads went to America as well and new zealand. It was a dominant state till approximately 1947. Irish people died on the coffin ships on the way to the usa around around famine. On britain irish people who came to Britain were from the north of ireland and some of then came to escape the discrimation of the british loyalists. When your own kids speak with a britsh accent and is called edward people donnt cop you are irish. 😊
No they usually left because Ireland was a backwater country until the 90’s/2000’s. They left for work and better living conditions. Almost like the UK didn’t bother industrialising Ireland to the scale of England 🤔
Ireland was “uncivilized and unpopulated.” Where have I heard that before? Sounds like invader talk to me.
Celtic peoples are historically so unlucky unlike Germanic peoples.
Due to the downfall of Celtic people in continental Europe and British Isles gave rise to the world we live in today otherwise it would be a completely different world.
@@GwainSagaFanChannel And it's all Roman's fault for the decline of Celtics in continental Europe
People forget after fall of western Roman Empire it was Ireland who taught the Germans to read and write
Also Charlemagne claimed he was of Celt and Roman Heritage to justify his claim to the title emperor of the Romans ironically
The Celtic people are Germanic. How naive can you be?
@@claretblue2509 Celtic is NOT a germanic language.
Where is Wales on your thumbnail
Notice how anything the British touch is destroyed? It's kind of like the concept of the golden touch, except it's very much the opposite
From Australia. Ive seen it first hand 😅
Nonsense bigotry
Really? Look at Ireland, India/Pakistan, Palestine, Egypt etc. All a mess left behind by British colonisers.
@@NathanBee3Australia was empty with small indigenous population and land was then populated by the colonisers. Look at places like Ireland, India etc where the British occupation was not a good experience for the locals and a political mess was left behind.
Australia is many things, but it is not a political mess!
It is very dangerous to draw a line at a convenient point in history, and ignore what went before.
When the Normans invaded England, both Wales and Ireland were collections of small kingdoms, each one constantly fighting with its neighbours. The French rulers sent an army into Wales, recruiting locals as they went, then moved across the sea at the invitation of one of the local kings. Ireland was united, not as an independent nation, but under Norman rule, like the British mainland.
Even further back in time, the Scots were not the original inhabitants of Scotland: they were invaders from Ireland. There is an irony in the part played by Scots in your video, taking back their ancient homeland.
Consider Irish surnames that begin with "Fitz". It comes from the French "fils", (pronounced "feece") meaning "son".
Took the Norman’s 200 years to fully conquer Wales.
Seems a bit odd to start at the Tudors considering anglo-irish and then an anglo-norman settlement had been ongoing for a millenia and many of the barons across Ireland were of very mixed heritage.
I think the Tudor era is a good time. Prior to this, while the conquests may have secured lands for Lords loyal to the English Crown, culturally, the majority of the island remained gaelic. Normans who'd come in conquest even became known as 'the New-Irish'. Also, the Tudor era brought the reformation too along with Henry VIII going against the Pope & naming himself King of Ireland, the first time Ireland was ever considered a Kingdom. (Previous title was Lord of Ireland & before the previous norman conquest, positions of High King were a different system, never really a true Kingdom)
This dude knows nothing about this area. All of the irish cities were founded by vikings and dublin cork and limerick were english from 1100 to 1900.
After the black death Dublin, Cork and Limerick were made up by mostly Irish populations that even spoke Irish. Most of the old English were wiped out.
I would question why you would choose the title "colonized by the English" when you go on to explicitly state that Ireland was colonised by both the English and the Scottish. In fact, the Scottish ended up being a far larger proportion of the settler in the North.
Make a video about Romanian War of Independence.
Would love to know more about the Japan and Korean wars
Why don’t you do more research and educate yourself
@@windriver4527 I know plenty but I would love this channel take on it. You sensitive about me posing a statement 😂. You must be a hit with the ladies. Oops maybe I shouldn't have said hit, probably a touchy subject for you 😂😂
@@mistert4533
Not sure why you are trying to attack me personally… I just told you to do what I do when I want to learn something… but I see your point, let’s see if they do a video covering your topic
@@windriver4527 I felt under attack saying that I should educate myself. I was just merely giving a suggestion to Knowledgia on a topic that is quite interesting and be nice to see their take on it. But I wasn't demanding they do it. I apologise if you wasn't meaning it as an attack on me. Maybe I'm being too sensitive. No wonder I'm not a hit with the ladies 🤣🤣🤣
@@mistert4533
You can’t detect tone, sarcasm or demeanor by texts… not a problem, that would interest me also
You forgot to mention the conquest of Scotland by the Ulster Irish a few centuries before.
Ok what about it? It holds 0 relevance to the plantations
@@fionnmoules7620 a bit of karma for the Ulster Irish, m8.
@@user_____M karma isnt real and also karma for what?😂😂😂
Conquest is a harsh word, generally accepted by historians as settlers and it was 10 centuries before when Ireland and Britain were both Celtic.
Cringe unionist alt-history, next you'll start with the whole 'Cruithin land reclamation' spiel
As a man who is part Scottish and Irish and English id like to say the Irish like to forget the Scots part in all this and blame the English only, yet Britain alone is in fact a mix of people the result of indigenous people and invasions from Germans French viking , roman nations so is any wonder what's happened and still the finger is pointed at the English like they are a pure breed of people
Ireland belongs to the Irish.
Yeah, they’ve already got Ireland
@@iamjohnfarlow *All* of Ireland belongs to the Irish.
We should deport the Gaels from Scotland and give Pictland back to the closest relatives the Britons since Scots are Gaels from Ireland 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
@@bmoney2011its a shame they won't get it 😄
@@abyssssssssssIts a shame you are such a knobhead
You said nothing about Cromwell, who is never forgotten un Ireland for his brutal slaughter of thousands of Irish.
Also it was not an English invasion it was a Norman invasion after 1066.
Love Ireland from Palestine
Very similar stories 😢
Once again, we skip the entire Viking colonies of Ireland, which fuel the Norman ambition, of which England is simply the inheritor. And never mind that the Ulster Irish colonised northern Britain (Scotland) at the same time the Anglo-Saxons colonised the South.
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There was no Viking colonies in Ireland you ignorant fool. And the English didn't inherit anything they colonised southern Ireland just as much as Northern Ireland in the 16th and 17th centuries, those people mixed with the native Irish they are known as new English or anglo-Irish.
I need sources for these claims that the Irish colonised North Britain
Well said…very partial take
Complete nonsense.
I love irris(ireland) ❤❤❤❤
Firstly, all borders are man made.
And, you make it sound like the Northern Irish have the border imposed by Great Britain against their will when most there want it.
I personally think it would be better if the two nations and people could trust each other and unite.
But let's not pretend they are the same people. A lot of the Northern Irish are Scottish.
The majority in Ireland never wanted Partition. If it was done by counties only Antrim and Down would be left in the union.
@@1969JohnnyM The colonisation should never have happened. But the aristocrats thought of the regular people as little more than property at the time so they would have seen it as no different than clearing trees or culling heards of deer.
But once it has happened and you have a large portion of the colonist descendants as a majority in some areas, it becomes very complicated.
I think some kind of charm offensive program over several generations might be a solution.
The government of Ireland can pic the to 10% most handsome and beautiful young men and women and subsidise any who marry folks in NI. Within a few generation the population of NI will be mixed and more open to unification.
The border was a messy negotiation that in the end encompassed quite a few regions that at the time would rather have been in the Free State. So yes, it was a border imposed on a lot of people that didn't want it at the time. Due to it being created, there was a bit of movement: Unionists leaving the Free State & Nationalists leaving the UK. This addressed a little of the imbalance.
Northern Ireland Unionists have never been so much about mistrusting Ireland as in more being incentivised and raised culturally to being obsessed with being a part of the UK. An Englishman I know was shocked after a recent visit at the vehemence many British identifying Northern Irish are so obsessed with being part of the UK.
Uniting with Ireland in their eyes could only ever happen by Ireland re-joining the UK.
At this time, the situation is changing. Many Northern Irish are looking towards the real issues. Parties such as the Alliance would rather work towards the bettering of Northern Ireland itself rather than worrying whether it's in the UK or Ireland. I could see them gaining ground & working on placing Northern Ireland in a unique powerful position: Open to both the UK & the EU (through Ireland), it's prosperity could be incredible.
That'll all come down to how much fear Unionism can create to bolster its vote. The stronger that vote, the stronger Nationalism will grow too. And as everyone in Northern Ireland knows, unionists often go to Nationalist politicians if they need to get some actual issues resolved, because many Unionist Politicians are elitists.
Exactly. Northern Ireland wants to be British. Most have Scottish and English ancestry anyway.
You only need to listen to the Ulster accent to know they’re basically Scots.
@@raymondhaskin9449You know that is a false statement. Northern Ireland is a place of people clearly wanting different things. It probably always will be.
9:39 Sounds eerily similar to today.
If you are UK neighbor, my god, you need to be tough not to become a colony.
Strong parallels here to what happened in New Zealand a bit later.
explain pls
A few additions in an effort to halt the erroneous teaching of history leading to racial hatred:
1) The people of the British Isles until the last 100 year are broadly of the same blood line. When the Romans and Danes invaded, many of these people (eg Celts, Picts, Anglo-Saxons, etc) moved to Scotland, Wales and Ireland, but the majority remained in England. The Normans made up the aristocracy and so married the resident aristocracy, but the majority of ordinary folk were no different from the rest of the islanders.
2) Ireland was not a single nation, but "divided politicially into shifting petty kingdoms and over-kingdoms" (Wiki) in a similar way to the rest of the world. And England was a different shape then and included Wales. Hence, a Norman king ruling most of England and Wales initially invaded some of the kingdoms on the island of Ireland then later a Scottish king did it some more.
3) The wars and divisions were led by the aspirations of royals and aristocrats and not out of some sense of a national identity as falsely taught today and the soldiers for both sides were ordinary folk of the same bloodline. Even in recent years, independence and separatist movements are led by middle and upper classes for their own benefit, who use propaganda (as included in this video) to persuade the working classes to fight for them.
4) As alluded to in point 2, the premise for a "united Ireland" is based solely on geography and the false history that it was united nation before British invasions. Why? Hispaniola is separated between Haiti and Dominican Republic. New Guinea is separated between 3 countries with East Timor formed in 1999. And domestically, a minority of Scots want to separate from the UK.
5) When one removes the false teaching of a historic united Irish state, it better helps people to understand the logic behind the decisions of yesteryear, which were based mostly on the religion, politics and power of the ruling classes. The terms Irish, Welsh, Scottish and English seem to have been formed to sell the motive of racial division to the people fighting the wars and dying.
Saying there was never a United Ireland is like saying there was never a United England or United Scotland. Germany could say the same, so could France. Most of the Island wanted a United Ireland after 1916. They viewed themselves as one people. You’re making a bullshit argument that most loyalists make trying to minimize the damage that was done to justify colonialism. I’m not buying it. Go preach to the oranges, they’ll swallow that whole.
When will the stephen the great part 2 video will come
This video is so wrong, it's unbelievable. Firstly, let's clarify some historical facts. Northern Ireland and Scotland have complex intertwined histories. The Scotti Irish tribe migrated across the Irish Sea into Pictland, which eventually became the Dál Riata kingdom. The Dál Riata kingdom evolved into the Lordship of the Isles, ruled by the MacDonald clan. During the 1500s, when England was embroiled in the War of the Roses, the Kingdom of Scotland dealt a significant blow to the Lordship of the Isles in an event known as Dubh's Rebellion, ending its autonomy(the Lordship of the isles was allied with england against kingdom of Scotland).
When the King of Scotland ascended the English throne, he aimed to consolidate his power and suppress Gaelic culture. To achieve this, he continued Scottish policies and curtailed Gaelic autonomy. The matter of Northern Ireland is intricately tied to internal Scottish politics. Contrary to the belief that the English colonized Ireland, it was the Normans who played a significant role. In 1066, both the Normans and the Norwegians attacked England. The Normans emerged victorious, leading to the devastation of the northern English population, a period known as the Harrying of the North.
In Ireland, the Kingdom of Leinster invited the Normans to secure their own interests. During this time, English was banned, and French was the language of law while Latin was used for religious matters in England and Ireland. By the 1500s, English nationality began to regain prominence, with William Shakespeare contributing around 1,700 new words to revitalize the previously dormant English language. Additionally, King Henry's split from the Norman Catholic Church marked a significant turning point.
The core conflict revolves around England's departure from the Catholic Church's influence. This struggle wasn't solely about English Catholics or Irish ones; it was a broader narrative centered on disentangling England from the Norman oppressive system perpetuated by the Irish lordship and the Catholic Church. The ultimate goal was to break free from this system.
True, well its very hypocritical that the SCOTTISH KING which descents, he and his title from IRISH GAELS tries to extinguish the culture of his ancestors.
Yes the Kingdom of Leinster did a big mistake inviting the Normans, but according to the RUclipsr "Fire of Learning" ruclips.net/video/fbJKanTrf8c/видео.html they would had come soon after, as the Norman were an adventurous people
Talking about Normans, did they ruled the Lordship of Ireland as a single entity or was there many autonomous Duchies/Baronies and if yes how many were they (Hiberno-Norman Counties) ?
I just know they fully integrated into Gaelic society, as the proverb says "More Irish than the Irish themselves"
Incorrect: King James was continuing Tudor policy in Ireland, the Ulster plantations is based on the Munster plantations of 1580, this is what it resembles in practices it doesn't have any connection to scotland despite you wishing it were so. The normans were English in Ireland they were referred to as English or old English by the Irish and they spoke middle english, this is a fact from all historical documents of the time, I can give you sources of the "Normans" in Ireland calling themselves English and speaking middle English, and the old English never conquered the whole island they were pushed to an area called the pale, a giant wall built to separate mostly Dublin from the rest of ireland. In 1550 Queen Mary the 1 attempted to expand English power in Ireland with the first planation scheme of king and queens county renamed in 1921 to Laos and offlay. Queen Elizbeth then under warham st legger and Richard Grenville established the first cooperate colonies in cork in 1569 which was the blue print for ards in 1570. Northern Ireland is not intertwined with Scottish politics the planation's were purely an Irish idea cooked up by the English monarchy.
Educate yourself on actual Irish history.
@@CaptainArseways-pt4ud The MacDonnells of Antrim are the same MacDonald clan as the one from the Lordship of the Isles in the Scottish Western Isles. This is why Ulster Gaelic and Scottish Gaelic are similar when compared to standardized Irish.
@@HaiLsKuNkY I love how you just brushed over the history lesson I just gave you these are basic facts btw.
It's debatable in regards to Ulster Irish it's on you to provide evidence, everything you have said so far has been just wrong.
The similarity between Ulster Irish and Scottish could be because by your own admission Scottish Gaelic comes from Ulster Irish it's bound to have similarities.
regardless anyway Scottish politics has nothing to do with Irish planation's in the 16th and 17th centuries.
there is only one Ireland My grandfather never once said "Northern" they also gave away Palestine.
We shall gain the north back Tiocfaidh ár lá 🍻
Never!
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You are proud to be English speaker :) Welcome to the global language
The 1536 Church of Ireland started Hibernianism.
hopefully it gets reunified one day
Agreed! Glory to the Irish!
Doubtful since Northern Ireland is protestant
My British self would like to disagree
All that would do is bring more conflict to the region, unless you're planning for some mass ethnic cleansing.
@@abyssssssssssofc as ye see ye have done nothing wrong🙄🙄
I love how Americans tell the story of Ireland and the English, and get it so wrong, the Norman's started it all, where I live there is a castle built in the 1100s I live in Ulster, the Norman's/English were invited in by the Gealic Lords for help and stayed, but the Norman English became more Irish than the Irish,
Get it right
They weren't called Normans for starters they are called old English. The earldom of Ulster is interesting sure.
Norman are French, not Germanic Anglo
Honest question: how do the British justify this?
It's just the usual mess of human power politics, which no one has ever stopped, dating back into antiquity. It's also more complicated that this video, which starts at only the 1500s,
Both the British & Irish Celts (who still fought amongst themselves & doesn't mention post Roman Irish invasions of the British mainland or slave raids) got caught up in different Scandinavian families (& other invading nations) empire building, which fractured an already fractured society. Throw religion into the mix, & it gets worse...
@@eze8970 thanks for the response. Another answer I got was that the current agreement allows the people of Northern Ireland to vote to join the Republic, and they choose not to.
I tend to think that the misuse of religion, rather than the teachings of either side, led to the worsening polarization.
I’ve still got a lot to learn because it’s a very complicated subject as a whole.
@@bcampbell8344 It's not about religion, watch the video again, it's an ethnic conflict. Religious denomination is just an identifier of which ethnic group you belong to.
The King of England, who was also the King of Scotland, was also the King of Ireland.
It didn't help that England and parts of Scotland became Protestant (16th - 18th centuries). Many areas remained Roman Catholic and frequently allied with Roman Catholic Spain, France vs. England. Like it or not, the Protestants won and were not going to forgive what they believed was treachery and betrayal. So, yup, BOTH sides fought dirty, and both sides were murderous.
The British fear Ireland. Because of the past the British were terrified of its enemies using Ireland as a jumping off point for the invasion of Britain. When the Protestant gained power the Irish remained Roman Catholic. The Catholic Spanish used Ireland, the Catholic Stuart dynasty tried it and Hitler's Germans, knowing of the hatred of Britain by the Irish, tried to curry favour with Ireland. I was born in England and emigrated to Australia in 1971. I would love to visit Ireland but the hatred of the British, specifically English, prevents me from doing so, even though I now identify as Australian.
It’s fine now man. The animosity is a thing of the past.
😂 You are aware 300,000 British people now live in Ireland! There's more British in Ireland than. Irish in. Britain. Your chance of being targeted just for being british is close to zero. Per cent.
@@anthonym3351 No I wasn't aware of that. The reason I came to my conclusion is that many people who're from Ireland, and live in Australia, are openly critical/hostile toward the English. I would love to see Ireland and sink a few drinks with friendly people.
@@febweb17 In the pubs the Irish will cheer against English sports team etc but for day to day living, tourism etc no irish person would have any problem with someone just because they are British, more so against the British govt. It is similar to me in that I love America and american people but dislike America for invading other countries. Historically ireland was poor so many lived in Britain in recent decades ireland has become richer than britain and is a very attractive place for British to live
@@anthonym3351incorrect
Should start with the Spanish Armada in 1588 when there was an attempt to convert England to Catholism by extreme force. That included the Spanish Inquisition and burning of protestants.
Spain was a massive empire at this stage and England was small and poor.
The Ulster aristocray sided with Spain and ran away when the Armada failed.
England would have been stupid not to occupy it.
Each reason to kill was a "good reason" at that time... Destruction again and again.
Centuries later, the matter is still there : culturally it's a big fail. And it killed people until 1990's. BIG fail.
You mean reconvert back to catholicism. Since england was Catholic until it was wiped out forcibly by a horny masochist king and his cronies.
Literally covers it here - Ulster aristocracy sided with the Spanish not because of muh Catholicism but because there had already been a colonisation attempt prior to the war by the Crown
@@cormacdonnelly365 Religion would still have been a major factor. All the local priests would be taking orders from the Pope, who would be resisting any challenge to his authority (& lets not forget reduction of taxes if lands went to another party). He wasn't alone though, it's the usual power politics, all the religious orders & social elites were battling for power, & the common people got caught up in it. Effectively happening since the Romans invaded.
@@eze8970 Eh I understand that argument but I'm skeptical of it - given the extent of Catholic Europe and the ability for information to flow at the time, it seems to me to be more a case of which local hierarchy ought to be followed - Catholic bishoprics or the incoming Anglican aristocracy. Agree with you though that it was the population itself that ended up suffering
Ireland was colonized by England, that's why the Irish fought for their independence when the potato famine took its tool and British did nothing to help the Irish, I love Ireland🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
that is an outright lie, more food entered ireland during the famine then left it, for reference England was heavily industrialized which is why food was being imported from ireland and the potato famine affected all of europe not just ireland, also stop bitching about "muh english colonialism" how do you think the Scots came to be?