Exactly. Bad players getting rewarded and they want it to stay the same bc they sucked last year when there was a pure green window. This year is mostly RNG and bailout defense.
YES! dont punish ppl for having known their shot timing! lay ups and dunks are different though you can time it but irl you can still get blocked but shots if you green it should always go in!
Or at least tell people that you made a change so expectations can be adjusted. This started because people did not understand that the system had changed. So now, people are feeling deceived.
There is a pure green window it’s just the speed of your animation fluctuates every shot but if you lock in on your visual cue you can green everything I assume if your jumpshot has a good timing stability the variance between shots will be less
Shooting definitely should be difficult. The problem 2K is having is that the shooting has been so easy for so long that average players think they’ve been amongst the elite. The reality of being average or below is hurting their feelings.
a big reason making it so difficult to be consistent, especially the way they did it, is that not everyone plays on a monitor and with great internet, so that can be game breaking for most fans like me who used to be able to cook up even with pretty bad latency
@@learningguitarforchicks I think the only solution is two separate RECS, one where 70-90% 3pt shooting is possible and the the other a “hardcore” version with more realistic percentages.
I could be mistaken but didn’t 2k labs say the green window will move even if the shot animation is exactly the same? That means there is no way to know where the window is regardless of your visual cue. You have to just hope. Edit: Also, the report cheating option is going to be super toxic. People will get mad and report you if they’re losing or mad because you didn’t pass the ball when they were open.
Not at all what they said. The green window moves with your jump shot animation which is why you need to watch your visual cue. Listening can take you far
@@cjdonahoo101 that’s not true because timing has always changed based on your animation. 2klabs measurements were based off the same standing still jumpshot animation. There is no set 100% pure green window. The same animation has different windows at different times. That’s the point of everyone’s frustration. The game “makes” you miss by altering your window even if you release at the same point of the animation.
@@Tevyn843 they literally said in the video you’re commenting on that the window moves based on animation changes this year so you need to focus on your visual cue. For example, if you have push then you need to watch for the push. I can promise you there’s no forced misses. I’ve had plenty of games shooting 100% from 3 on like 5-6 attempts. I rarely miss and when I do it’s normally bc of bad catch animations or something like that messing me up. If you don’t believe me then rewatch the video
In what world of sports does this actually happen!!! I guess common sense ain’t so common & if you make the game this way you will get tired of playing the game cause it takes no skill to win just a thousand step backs and shots
It should if I have HOF shooting badges tho.. I’m decent with the Rhythm Shooting but there’s every game a few shots that’s im like no way that was “very early/late..
No game developer should be altering your gameplay when you spend tons of money to play. If you're good at the game you deserve to be good. Green Windows should be determined by your overall attributes that's the whole point of making a build so if you're a three-point shooter you should be good at 3 pointing if you could time your shot. 2K dev are literally altering your jump shots every time you shoot that makes no sense.
That’s the answer bruh I’m behind on this answer we all know what this game will turn into if you can just hit every single shot the GREED on the court will be real and team play will fall so short
If i pay for my player to have high 3pt I should be able to green wide open if I time it right.. If 2k said this how shooting would be trust me 50% of people won't be buying that crap game... Why tell us after we buy the game? Stop it. 2k just finessed us end of story
@@MatriouseThaGod2kyou can still green but you don’t shoot by looking at your shot. I’m sure you shoot from a feeling and that won’t fly this year. You’re going to have to pay attention to your release point. I suggest not having the fastest shot in the game because even slow shots are kinda fast tbh.
The community was the one that messed up the shooting. We’re complaint about it but had it not been for people blatantly cheating by using Zens, shooting wouldn’t be this bad.
@@bye3680 I’ve heard that since there’s no pure green window, zens can’t work because the timing is random. I’ve yet to run into any zen users. So I can’t really say for sure. But you might be right.
Im Not trippen about shooting but if that shot feedback say WIDEOPEN I SHOULD BE MAKIN IT WITH NO HESITATION, defense should be penalized for bad defense
Taking back to the 2k11 shot timing days. A “truer” approach to shooting basketball realistically. Because, in real life, mastering your jump shot doesn’t always make for a made basket.
Yes it should be. I will go 6/8 from 3 and then 1/8 from three 💀💀 the Rng is so dumb in this game. I can understand it’s to stop zen users but what about casual players….
use normal risk.. u then don’t have a 0 % chance… and if you go 1-8 that’s on u.. the timing isn’t that harsh with rng… i’ve played a lot of games and have an average of a 54 3pt%
@@bye3680 speak for urself… they went 20 years with it… game was at its peak with it still in the game (exception of 2k20) sales high but that’s also due to people staying home cause of covid
@@LavishCinemayou people talking about averages to justify rng are so dumb. The guy in the main comment shot almost 50% if you average it but the consistency is the issue not overall averages
Tell them to keep it the same. I'm shooting like a real NBA Player now on a max contract. I shoot whenever I'm open...green or miss. And if I miss... I blame 2K and this year it's actually forreal. I love it.
@@Deontelewis846 having a 99 3ball and shooting just as good as someone with a 82 3 ball doesn't make any sense and you should be banned from 2k for even think that way
Wtf?? Yes, every perfect release should be a make unless it’s blocked, we been dealing with 60+ percent 3 point shooting for years, it’s fine, it’s the only way for the game to function. I’d rather they address steals and o-boards tbh
@@LavishCinema the 3 ball is more relevant in the nba today than ever before, I’m not a huge fan of it, but it’s also not a simulation and hasn’t been for years, guard up
@@smileyheadshot i know it’s more relevant but at the same time no one averages 60+% it’s not just a park/streetball game so they try to make it a realistic simulation that’s what i’m saying
@@LavishCinema I mainly play rec, it’s just been so far from a realistic sim for years now, I’m ok with the shooting as if you could get matchup stats, I guarantee that my matchups don’t shoot even near 60%, most people just make their builds with zero defense and or have no stick skill to guard up
I think that if I put hundreds of dollars in a video game I expert to be able to shoot especially if I make a build which attributes supports shooting. It’s crazyv
I like and understand why it varies. The animation effect ... Like I know ppl who went 9/9 from 3. Not often of course but it's not guaranteed you miss the 6th shot just more likely you would because you in a rhythm and shooting with a timing than looking at the release.
I feel like rhythm shooting has that pure green window that y’all are looking for but people refuse to learn or try it out. More often than not I feel that my shooting is better (more greens) when I use rhythm shooting, plus idk it feels easy to me because it just makes sense, I hold down till I get to the Set Point mark then I move my stick up to match my player flicking or pushing the ball. Standstill shots are faster while some fades are slower but to muh brain it works thankfully. Y’all should give it a shot, I believe this is their way of introducing a skill gap. Learn this different but similar 2 motion mechanic to achieve better shots. Regular 1 motion shot or square button can still go in but now have a slight rng chance. Rhythm shooting does not. At least I hope it don’t then it would be dumb lmao. It may also allow u to shoot over tight contests too, happened to me once ina game idk if that was luck or a mechanic.
Really need to give a boost to open and smart shots. Ppl been taking so many bad shots over the years they think they can just keep shooting those same shots. But 2k needs to work on the contest system. No way I'm standing right in front of someone, with 93 perimeter and the shot is open. If someone is front of you the shot should NEVER be open
There are a million different ways to add realism that doesn’t affect the fun. The pro play animations, the presentation, graphics, storylines, etc. Shooting doesn’t need to be touched. There’s a middle place for realism and gaming.
I’m not shooting at a high percentage, but I do like the adjustments of paying attention to the animation. There’s a lot of games out there that can be difficult to some in developers or the owner will say great. Looks like you have a learning curve to accomplish. I think, that goes with what 2k is doing. Yes we all spend a lot of money to make builds, so now the time to perfect your build and its craft
Ok but am I the only one who puts their timing cue on one thing and has to release it like its 2 timing cues after the one I wanna use? i.e I use jump every year, and this year I keep having to let go of square like its push?
I actually enjoy the shooting this year. I enjoy that every damn shot is not promised, it feels real! I’m on HR shooting so I have to green. I’ve been shooting well since I only shoot with the stick
Make game modes partner up with your settings. If you go in to the rec with your team the whole team and opponents should be on high risk or normal risk. It’ll make it so that casuals stay with casuals and sweats play against other sweats. But it’s an issue if you’re on low risk and I’m on high, that means we are 2 different skill levels but the game wants us to finish the race tied up.
All they need to do is add timing and release to regular jumpshots the way they have it for rhythm shooting. So atleast if my green window moved I can see I timed my shot correctly but mis timed the release.
I shoot 55 percent from 3pt line. I consider myself casual. That's after having bad shooting games and experimenting with jump shots. If I only took good shots and used my best jumpshot this whole time I'd atleast be shooting 60 percent. I consider myself a casual. Dudes need to stop crying. How do these ppl spend all day on 2k and still can't shoot??
the people that are complaining about the shooting are the people that can shoot, you can be happy with your 55 percent but if i perfectly time my jumpshot i want it to go in. i dont want the game to make me miss just so someone who cant shoot can have a chance
@@bye3680 if you perfectly time your shot.. what's your shooting percent on this game? Ppl shooting 40 percent out here talking about "if the perfectly time there shot" the green window is smaller now. 2k24 lied to yall. Yall not shooters fr.
@@Dachef1881 i shoot almost 50% but please give me ONE JUST ONE good reason why if i perfectly time a wide open jumpshot it doesn’t go in. Go ahead and explain how that makes sense Einstein
@@Dachef1881 also since you think you’re so good at the game there is a reason you love the shooting even 2k said is geared towards casuals, ur a casual my guy, nothing wrong with that but stop acting like you know what you’re talking about
They should add pure green window but only for builds with a 99 3PT and legend set point badge. If their argument is “curry can do it” then they need to be 1 of 1 like curry and sacrifice attributes elsewhere
Idk but the biggest thing is, if I’m wide open in the corner, not a single person around, then my chances of making it should be tremendously better. Regardless of the RNG or not. Do not punish me for taking a good shot with a good release.
Stick to arcade people wanna compare realism. Then like to forget steph has had 30+ years to figure his jumpshot ect. We get one year while at the same time playing way more games in a year compared. I dont wanna sit here for hours on end finding a decent jumpshot just for it to maybe go ib. Plus im spending $100 to upgrade a player. I would like to think with being able to play the game my attributes work that i upgraded with vc. Not for it to be a guessing game. Needs to be some sort of consistency is all. Love the vids.
The shooting issues vary because most players you run with have low pass ratings, even "PGs". When i run with my homie who has gold dimer - my catches & shooting are vastly improved.
@bye3680 of course we Don't want to rely on dimer. But if you primarily catch & shoot (off ball builds) and you time every thing - a slow or off target pass is going to affect your rhythm just like in real life.
@@michaelrandall6184 sure it should effect the speed at which i can shoot the ball after catching but it should not completely move my green window to make the shot impossible to green, that’s nonsense i just want to make my shot if i time it
But we need realism honestly but 2k need to go to green or miss frfr this is a basketball game but it’s based on real players and who play the game of basketball plus hella people was complaining about more realistic gameplay and less arcade style gameplay and that’s what we got
I 100% agree with post God. I've been loving it. You don't get PG/SG doing unrealistic running 3s going 7/7. You actually feel rewarded for shooting well and respect your a opponent for a hard shot. Pros shooting at 50%? That's fucking God like, steph doesn't even shooting that consistent. People arguing that it should be arcade, yes it should but mostly realism. There's a reason basketball is BASKETBALL and people like it. Also I see people saying they miss perfectly timed shots. Use tempo, its harder but if you actually green, it goes in even on contest.
Keep the shooting the way it is.. puts an emphasis on other facets of the game.. now you gta actually pass the ball drive to the basket.. learn to box out and rebound.. OR stop taking 10 3s a game and you won’t miss so many
My question has always been if zens time in a window that is obliviously inhuma like timing to the exact same millisecond everytime why not just put an algorithm to detect that and make it permanent ban. This is how some pc games detect bots .
The RNG is a necessary evil if I'm being honest. 2K24 had a lot of zenners in all game modes. I'm thoroughly convinced people want zenners to run the game. Also of note about the steals, people who say "you can't get 7 steals in a game it's unrealistic" never had a good coach in their life. A lot of the cross court passes we make in the game isn't something you see often in the NBA, because good defenders will pick them off.
Its a game it's not real life.. Nothing realistic about this game. A game should be fun... This is not a job.. Casuals shouldn't be punished because of zenners... If shooting is working for you fine.. But I know many people who u installed 2k because they hop on and shooting 0-8 wide open with 90+ 3pt rating... youtubers don't care about the experience of 80% of 2k players. Yall want comp and harder sliders then let 2k put that shi in stage and proving grounds.. Parks and theater shouldn't be that difficult to shoot in
I like it this way. I like a challenge. I'm not a super sweat but I've always been anelite shooter. I shot 17% the first day and figured it out. Adapted and now im at 51%. Even if they change it back for the casuals. They gone be shooting 50%. And I'mma go back to 70%+
No badge, no hot zone, no shot-taking IQ on top of bad ball movement to wide open players and ninjas expect to shoot lights out. 2k25 is solid, a little tweeks are needed here and there, especially sluggish movement, low-rated players stealing and intercepting the ball at a high rate needs tuning, other than that everything else is a learning curve, so lab up and learning.
What exactly is solid? Everything is laggy, movement is sluggis in all game modes, perimetar contest dosent work unless you jump on someones head and thats considered a light contest in most cases even with 90+ perimetar, there’s no shooting percentage difference between a 78 and 99 rating everyone is shooting the same, interceptor teleport’s you, drive steals are abysmal, every baseline drive gets you out of bounds and the smartest solution to all of the problems is rhythm shooting… The only positive thing you can say about it is that it loads up.. and you can buy clothes in stores.. Solid waste of time and money unfortunately
Sounds to me that RUclipsr want cheating in the game, they want the game to be easy so they can make clips and embarrasse the average player that doesn't have the time to play all day every day.
RNG wouldnt even be a problem if the animation didnt have 500 different ways of playing out, theres too many variables, green window could be smaller on each next shot even tho that would negate "getting hot" or takeover meter, but it would still be easier to make a shot sense the animation is the same. Now if they did just the different animations and no RNG that would also work, both at the same time is too much for a fucking videogame I wanna play after I get off of work
The amount of crying about shooting is crazy i jus went 6/7 in rec and hit 4 in a row with a 83 3point rating stop taking bad shots change ur settings get busy...
@@andrefigaro4785my personal opinion the best shooters / people who actually good at the game should shoot around 50-60% that’s a perfect in the middle if u hitting your 3s at that clip that’s good
I've adapted to the game and I use rhythm shooting and I went 10/10 in the rec, 7/7 from 3. Ppl want a different game but never use the new mechanics. Idk man I'm just a casual with a 9 to 5.
You know what the issue is the issue is people thinking that they’re the best shooters you’re going to miss it’s going to happen and the sooner people understand that the better you’ll feel about the game. Stop fighting the game and fighting the system and actually learn and take he to what the devs put in the game
@@ImNotNotAllCityChi missing because the game is forcing me to miss isn’t fun. Just because the devs put it in the games doesn’t mean it’s right. There is a reason they didn’t tell us about rng shooting before the game came out, they only care about money
@@bye3680 and here’s the thing the game is making you miss that tweet. Confirm that RNG is not in the game, The green window is based on the animation on screen the window isn’t just moving arbitrarily. It’s moving with the motion of your player, so you have the same green window in the same chance to green the shot if you follow the animation. The truth of the matter is most people are going out on high risk high reward before you really understand how the game works. Drop it down to low risk low reward for a couple of days and find your shot and bump it up gradually over a week and see if you aren’t shooting better.
All i know is my cue should be the same cue even if the timing is different or not and thats what feels off it feels more like rng even when timing your cue perfectly Also if you’re wide open you should not have that big of a difference in timing realistically if its based off your cue
Yes every perfect release should be a bucket that’s the whole point of a PERFECT release and there shouldn’t be a one or 2 second delay when I try to shot so I let it go thinking it’s not working then I shot a very early
Every year, without fail, the game is fine, yet the cheeseballs and casuals complain about it until they dumb it down to allow everyone to shoot like Tyceno. I think shooting and defense are fine where they're at. I say this as a point guard who's shooting around 45% from three. That's realistic.
I think they need to leave the shooting just how it is, it’s making the game more competitive, they want it too easy, learning to shoot on the proper animations is a skill and it’s going to take time to adjust
@@UnknownSource08don’t need body want it to be off animations when there’s multiple different catch and shoot of the dribble animations and on top of they change your jump shot que
Trust me it's for the better I used to think I couldn't shoot without meter in 22k3 old gen last year on 2k24 next gen I got even better and unlocked a whole new playstyle cuz of it
You have to find a good looking jumper and releases you like visually and get to labbing up your release que in the jumpshot builder, keep in mind in 2k25 the jumpshots are faster so big man jumpers are actually valid if they're B+ release speed
it is a SKILL GAP, in knowing your jumpshot timing , especially on high risk. the fact tht those of us all on high risk are playing w the most room for penalty, i believe if we time it correct it should go in… why add whites going on, for the casuals if you’re just going to limit those playing with maximum risk settings
The bottom line is the 2K community doesn’t like change. Only thing they wanna do is glitch and cheese all day and with the new shooting mechanics that’s not happening and everyone is upset.
“Steph doesn’t shoot 50 percent.” True. Steph also doesn’t shoot wide open shots. He’s shooting off the dribble shots and step back shots a lot. People like this because they get to play lazy defense.
They should appease both …arcade and realism. Leave the shooting like it is in “proving grounds and Pro am” and everything else similar to the past 2ks
so just to be that one guy. i used my zen this morning and tried using an old script for shooting and funny enough they worked i tried the whole 6 shots. and i just set it to 585 ms and was guaranteed greens 4 in a row and then i bricked. but once i went in for a dunk. it reset that algorithm.. so zens work
Lowkey I don’t even care anymore, I’ve played about 4 hours of gameplay this year. I can already see that they are trying hard to appeal to the Fortnite gang. Y’all can have it and I’ll just be a viewer on twitch and YT.
@@solarpoweredafricanvegansp178 i feel like i got scammed by 2k cause they didnt tell anyone about rng shooting and we had to find out through a youtuber
Get rid of greens all together, it’s not a real life aspect of basketball, most people don’t know if they shot is going in when they shoot it irl, yes you should still need good shot timing
I like it even though I’m struggling with my shot, I say just tweak a bit. Ppl have to learn to adjust, and this is coming from a gamer who has been playing since Atari 2600 🤣
I see a lot of folks complaining about the game, but its being more realistic they making it where you have to utilize your team a bit more instead of seeing one person dribble all day and then shoot all the shots fr .. in real life even if you perfect your shot you will still miss majority of the time even if your open and yes even curry struggles in real life when it comes to shooting go look at his percentages game to game .. yall need to stop complaining and just hoop and use your teammates instead of trying to iso all day plain and simple
Perfect releases should be a green, if not what’s the point. For as many people that were lighting it up on 2k, there was just as many people on 2k that still couldn’t shoot for shit
I think shooting needs a *Little* buff, maybe a 50ms shot difference towards a 25ms towards on the lightly early and a 25ms on slightly late or what ever your release may be 🤷 😂what I do know is , if this is the “New” shooting and *NBA2k* is having to go this route to battle with cheaters, make it where if *Cheaters* if be caught red-handed on their gameplay, on streams or whatever how you can catch them, they should be *Console Banned/Ip Banned* I know it sounds harsh but bro they’re people on here actually playing *Legit* the whole *Community* shouldn’t have to suffer due to people being dishonest with there gameplay. Idk 😂 that’s my opinion
I’m not really having a problem with shooting the Rhythm shooting is so broken if you know your visual cue but I prefer 20 shooting no rng, does bring cheaters tho so idk
This is a simple fix the creators of street hoops need to come back and make a game so people can go complain about the arcade mechanics this is NBA basketball not street hoops 2K is doing a phenomenal job. The people who want to choose the game complain the most good players don’t wanna adjust. It seems the men today are weak and reflecting through a video game. I’m not exempt from criticism so by all means let me hear it.
The people crying are the people who wanna dribble in your face for 23 seconds and then green a 3 from half court and when they cant they complain. Try passing the damn ball and take good shots. I'm loving the game and I've been lights out with both my PG and my big man. People wanna cheese the builder and use a 76 3 ball and wonder why they struggle 😂
I think that making the game more difficult for cheaters with the excuse to make the shooting percentages more realistic via unrealistic mechanic behind shooting is stupid. I like 2K 23 shooting. I just feel like this is just too much for me to like. I don't like missing shots that's not fun I don't think everybody should make every single shot that was a bunch of bs.
Great video but I have one issue with the video I don't understand why people separate themselves by saying they're not a my career player no offense against you but you are a my career player when you select the option to create a player and go into park it's part of my career which means you are a my career player you may not play the NBA Simulator games but you are playing my career Uncle Demi I am a fan of the channel keep up the good work not trying to come out your head or anything but just a lot of people say this a lot they always say they do not play my career when they are playing my career you select the option when you started the game correct when you made your my player which is part of my career🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️😂😂
Yea realisam is only on shot..but you can have 30 steals in game as a team.
preach 2k25 honestly sucks... contest system is a joke...
this the one
Exactly. Bad players getting rewarded and they want it to stay the same bc they sucked last year when there was a pure green window. This year is mostly RNG and bailout defense.
YES! dont punish ppl for having known their shot timing! lay ups and dunks are different though you can time it but irl you can still get blocked but shots if you green it should always go in!
Or at least tell people that you made a change so expectations can be adjusted. This started because people did not understand that the system had changed. So now, people are feeling deceived.
There is a pure green window it’s just the speed of your animation fluctuates every shot but if you lock in on your visual cue you can green everything I assume if your jumpshot has a good timing stability the variance between shots will be less
Shooting definitely should be difficult. The problem 2K is having is that the shooting has been so easy for so long that average players think they’ve been amongst the elite. The reality of being average or below is hurting their feelings.
a big reason making it so difficult to be consistent, especially the way they did it, is that not everyone plays on a monitor and with great internet, so that can be game breaking for most fans like me who used to be able to cook up even with pretty bad latency
@@learningguitarforchicks I think the only solution is two separate RECS, one where 70-90% 3pt shooting is possible and the the other a “hardcore” version with more realistic percentages.
I could be mistaken but didn’t 2k labs say the green window will move even if the shot animation is exactly the same? That means there is no way to know where the window is regardless of your visual cue. You have to just hope.
Edit: Also, the report cheating option is going to be super toxic. People will get mad and report you if they’re losing or mad because you didn’t pass the ball when they were open.
Yup that's exactly what they said so even if you know your animation and cue it doesn't matter
Not at all what they said. The green window moves with your jump shot animation which is why you need to watch your visual cue. Listening can take you far
@@cjdonahoo101 that’s not true because timing has always changed based on your animation. 2klabs measurements were based off the same standing still jumpshot animation. There is no set 100% pure green window. The same animation has different windows at different times. That’s the point of everyone’s frustration. The game “makes” you miss by altering your window even if you release at the same point of the animation.
@@Tevyn843 they literally said in the video you’re commenting on that the window moves based on animation changes this year so you need to focus on your visual cue. For example, if you have push then you need to watch for the push. I can promise you there’s no forced misses. I’ve had plenty of games shooting 100% from 3 on like 5-6 attempts. I rarely miss and when I do it’s normally bc of bad catch animations or something like that messing me up. If you don’t believe me then rewatch the video
@@cjdonahoo101 the highest level players are barely shooting 50% whereas they’ve been shooting 60-70% in past years. They didn’t get worse lol
EVERY PERFECT RELEASE SHOULD BE A BUCKET UNLESS CONTESTED !!! THAT'S COMMON MF SENSE !!!
In what world of sports does this actually happen!!! I guess common sense ain’t so common & if you make the game this way you will get tired of playing the game cause it takes no skill to win just a thousand step backs and shots
@@MrLastLaugh554 this is a video game be quiet
@@MrLastLaugh554in the NBA
That's one of the other issues too, contest system isn't what it should be
@@MrLastLaugh554but 20 steals a game is realistic?
It should if I have HOF shooting badges tho.. I’m decent with the Rhythm Shooting but there’s every game a few shots that’s im like no way that was “very early/late..
No game developer should be altering your gameplay when you spend tons of money to play. If you're good at the game you deserve to be good. Green Windows should be determined by your overall attributes that's the whole point of making a build so if you're a three-point shooter you should be good at 3 pointing if you could time your shot. 2K dev are literally altering your jump shots every time you shoot that makes no sense.
Realistically the answer to shooting is to just utilize your whole team more. You can't always be him. 😂
That’s the answer bruh I’m behind on this answer we all know what this game will turn into if you can just hit every single shot the GREED on the court will be real and team play will fall so short
@@AhkKnockItOff facts. 🔥
If i pay for my player to have high 3pt I should be able to green wide open if I time it right.. If 2k said this how shooting would be trust me 50% of people won't be buying that crap game... Why tell us after we buy the game? Stop it. 2k just finessed us end of story
@@MatriouseThaGod2kyou can still green but you don’t shoot by looking at your shot. I’m sure you shoot from a feeling and that won’t fly this year. You’re going to have to pay attention to your release point. I suggest not having the fastest shot in the game because even slow shots are kinda fast tbh.
@@MatriouseThaGod2kman stop bitching and play basketball
The community was the one that messed up the shooting. We’re complaint about it but had it not been for people blatantly cheating by using Zens, shooting wouldn’t be this bad.
@@drewski1867 this new shooting doesn’t fix zens, they still work
@@bye3680 I’ve heard that since there’s no pure green window, zens can’t work because the timing is random. I’ve yet to run into any zen users. So I can’t really say for sure. But you might be right.
Im Not trippen about shooting but if that shot feedback say WIDEOPEN I SHOULD BE MAKIN IT WITH NO HESITATION, defense should be penalized for bad defense
i wouldnt trip either if i was an inside center
Taking back to the 2k11 shot timing days. A “truer” approach to shooting basketball realistically. Because, in real life, mastering your jump shot doesn’t always make for a made basket.
Yes it should be. I will go 6/8 from 3 and then 1/8 from three 💀💀 the Rng is so dumb in this game. I can understand it’s to stop zen users but what about casual players….
use normal risk.. u then don’t have a 0 % chance… and if you go 1-8 that’s on u.. the timing isn’t that harsh with rng… i’ve played a lot of games and have an average of a 54 3pt%
@@LavishCinema nobody wants rng in the first place, thats the problem
@@bye3680 speak for urself… they went 20 years with it… game was at its peak with it still in the game (exception of 2k20) sales high but that’s also due to people staying home cause of covid
@@LavishCinemayou people talking about averages to justify rng are so dumb. The guy in the main comment shot almost 50% if you average it but the consistency is the issue not overall averages
@@LavishCinema what if someone wants to venture into proving ground... this game rewards bad defense and unrealistic offense.
Uncle Demi I know you have that "Rim Rocker" build dropping soon! 💯🔥
Tell them to keep it the same. I'm shooting like a real NBA Player now on a max contract. I shoot whenever I'm open...green or miss. And if I miss... I blame 2K and this year it's actually forreal. I love it.
Lmao W comment. To be fair it is more realistic, Steph the best shooter on earth and a good season for him is mid to high 40% shooting from 3
It’s not realistic at all. Even on 2k 16 there was a pure green window 75% of the time
@@BECKTON99 you love to miss shots you should've hit because its a gambled shot?? Okay buddy if i time my shot right it should go in every time
@@Deontelewis846 having a 99 3ball and shooting just as good as someone with a 82 3 ball doesn't make any sense and you should be banned from 2k for even think that way
@@Deontelewis846 if we being honest i shoot better on my build w 76 3pt which makes no sense. My build w 99 3pt struggles more than my other build
Got his ankles TOOK @ 5:40 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Wtf?? Yes, every perfect release should be a make unless it’s blocked, we been dealing with 60+ percent 3 point shooting for years, it’s fine, it’s the only way for the game to function. I’d rather they address steals and o-boards tbh
What is the deal with o-boards?
it’s a basketball simulation not a 3 point contest simulation… they just tryna balance it but nothing they do everyone is gonna be happy with
@@LavishCinema the 3 ball is more relevant in the nba today than ever before, I’m not a huge fan of it, but it’s also not a simulation and hasn’t been for years, guard up
@@smileyheadshot i know it’s more relevant but at the same time no one averages 60+% it’s not just a park/streetball game so they try to make it a realistic simulation that’s what i’m saying
@@LavishCinema I mainly play rec, it’s just been so far from a realistic sim for years now, I’m ok with the shooting as if you could get matchup stats, I guarantee that my matchups don’t shoot even near 60%, most people just make their builds with zero defense and or have no stick skill to guard up
I think that if I put hundreds of dollars in a video game I expert to be able to shoot especially if I make a build which attributes supports shooting. It’s crazyv
demi said “r-e-introduce” 😂😂😂
I think the biggest issue is reaching that point where there is no green window at all. That in my opinion should just not be a thing
I like and understand why it varies. The animation effect ... Like I know ppl who went 9/9 from 3. Not often of course but it's not guaranteed you miss the 6th shot just more likely you would because you in a rhythm and shooting with a timing than looking at the release.
Green, Green, Green, Early, Early, Late, Late, Early… now I don’t even know my jumpshot cue. Just make the windows smaller bruh. Nobody wants this.
I feel like rhythm shooting has that pure green window that y’all are looking for but people refuse to learn or try it out. More often than not I feel that my shooting is better (more greens) when I use rhythm shooting, plus idk it feels easy to me because it just makes sense, I hold down till I get to the Set Point mark then I move my stick up to match my player flicking or pushing the ball. Standstill shots are faster while some fades are slower but to muh brain it works thankfully. Y’all should give it a shot, I believe this is their way of introducing a skill gap. Learn this different but similar 2 motion mechanic to achieve better shots. Regular 1 motion shot or square button can still go in but now have a slight rng chance. Rhythm shooting does not. At least I hope it don’t then it would be dumb lmao. It may also allow u to shoot over tight contests too, happened to me once ina game idk if that was luck or a mechanic.
Really need to give a boost to open and smart shots. Ppl been taking so many bad shots over the years they think they can just keep shooting those same shots. But 2k needs to work on the contest system. No way I'm standing right in front of someone, with 93 perimeter and the shot is open. If someone is front of you the shot should NEVER be open
There are a million different ways to add realism that doesn’t affect the fun. The pro play animations, the presentation, graphics, storylines, etc. Shooting doesn’t need to be touched. There’s a middle place for realism and gaming.
I’m not shooting at a high percentage, but I do like the adjustments of paying attention to the animation. There’s a lot of games out there that can be difficult to some in developers or the owner will say great. Looks like you have a learning curve to accomplish. I think, that goes with what 2k is doing. Yes we all spend a lot of money to make builds, so now the time to perfect your build and its craft
Voice to text hopefully it made sense
Ok but am I the only one who puts their timing cue on one thing and has to release it like its 2 timing cues after the one I wanna use? i.e I use jump every year, and this year I keep having to let go of square like its push?
I actually enjoy the shooting this year. I enjoy that every damn shot is not promised, it feels real! I’m on HR shooting so I have to green. I’ve been shooting well since I only shoot with the stick
Make game modes partner up with your settings. If you go in to the rec with your team the whole team and opponents should be on high risk or normal risk. It’ll make it so that casuals stay with casuals and sweats play against other sweats.
But it’s an issue if you’re on low risk and I’m on high, that means we are 2 different skill levels but the game wants us to finish the race tied up.
All they need to do is add timing and release to regular jumpshots the way they have it for rhythm shooting. So atleast if my green window moved I can see I timed my shot correctly but mis timed the release.
I shoot 55 percent from 3pt line. I consider myself casual. That's after having bad shooting games and experimenting with jump shots. If I only took good shots and used my best jumpshot this whole time I'd atleast be shooting 60 percent. I consider myself a casual. Dudes need to stop crying. How do these ppl spend all day on 2k and still can't shoot??
the people that are complaining about the shooting are the people that can shoot, you can be happy with your 55 percent but if i perfectly time my jumpshot i want it to go in. i dont want the game to make me miss just so someone who cant shoot can have a chance
@@bye3680 if you perfectly time your shot.. what's your shooting percent on this game? Ppl shooting 40 percent out here talking about "if the perfectly time there shot" the green window is smaller now. 2k24 lied to yall. Yall not shooters fr.
@@Dachef1881 i shoot almost 50% but please give me ONE JUST ONE good reason why if i perfectly time a wide open jumpshot it doesn’t go in. Go ahead and explain how that makes sense Einstein
@@Dachef1881oh our fault, didn’t know you were Steph curry 😂😂. This community is jokes fr
@@Dachef1881 also since you think you’re so good at the game there is a reason you love the shooting even 2k said is geared towards casuals, ur a casual my guy, nothing wrong with that but stop acting like you know what you’re talking about
They should add pure green window but only for builds with a 99 3PT and legend set point badge. If their argument is “curry can do it” then they need to be 1 of 1 like curry and sacrifice attributes elsewhere
Idk but the biggest thing is, if I’m wide open in the corner, not a single person around, then my chances of making it should be tremendously better. Regardless of the RNG or not. Do not punish me for taking a good shot with a good release.
Stick to arcade people wanna compare realism. Then like to forget steph has had 30+ years to figure his jumpshot ect. We get one year while at the same time playing way more games in a year compared. I dont wanna sit here for hours on end finding a decent jumpshot just for it to maybe go ib. Plus im spending $100 to upgrade a player. I would like to think with being able to play the game my attributes work that i upgraded with vc. Not for it to be a guessing game. Needs to be some sort of consistency is all. Love the vids.
I have no problem with adjusting. The only problem I have is the latency. You can’t put something like this in the game with it being so laggy
The shooting issues vary because most players you run with have low pass ratings, even "PGs". When i run with my homie who has gold dimer - my catches & shooting are vastly improved.
nobody wants to rely on dimer to make a shot, if i perfect release it should go in bottom line
@bye3680 of course we Don't want to rely on dimer. But if you primarily catch & shoot (off ball builds) and you time every thing - a slow or off target pass is going to affect your rhythm just like in real life.
@@michaelrandall6184 sure it should effect the speed at which i can shoot the ball after catching but it should not completely move my green window to make the shot impossible to green, that’s nonsense i just want to make my shot if i time it
@@bye3680 that's fair
Just make a smaller pure green window… I’m tired of playing Proving Grounds and I get to 18 points and can’t make the next 4 3PT attempts…
I believe realism is cool but this is a game not real life
I agree
Especially when the ball goes right through you
But we need realism honestly but 2k need to go to green or miss frfr this is a basketball game but it’s based on real players and who play the game of basketball plus hella people was complaining about more realistic gameplay and less arcade style gameplay and that’s what we got
No one should be hitting 60 or 70% of their threes or higher, that’s just unrealistic it kills the game and makes it unbalanced
This game is based on reality. You can't just be having people have their way ALL the time. That's the case they might as well cheat
I 100% agree with post God. I've been loving it. You don't get PG/SG doing unrealistic running 3s going 7/7. You actually feel rewarded for shooting well and respect your a opponent for a hard shot. Pros shooting at 50%? That's fucking God like, steph doesn't even shooting that consistent. People arguing that it should be arcade, yes it should but mostly realism. There's a reason basketball is BASKETBALL and people like it.
Also I see people saying they miss perfectly timed shots. Use tempo, its harder but if you actually green, it goes in even on contest.
Keep the shooting the way it is.. puts an emphasis on other facets of the game.. now you gta actually pass the ball drive to the basket.. learn to box out and rebound.. OR stop taking 10 3s a game and you won’t miss so many
My question has always been if zens time in a window that is obliviously inhuma like timing to the exact same millisecond everytime why not just put an algorithm to detect that and make it permanent ban. This is how some pc games detect bots .
The RNG is a necessary evil if I'm being honest. 2K24 had a lot of zenners in all game modes. I'm thoroughly convinced people want zenners to run the game.
Also of note about the steals, people who say "you can't get 7 steals in a game it's unrealistic" never had a good coach in their life. A lot of the cross court passes we make in the game isn't something you see often in the NBA, because good defenders will pick them off.
Yes!!! Agree 💯
It’s not necessary at all though😭. 2k is a billion dollar company that can invest in anti cheats for zens it’s as simple as that
@@Dillorianexactly lmao we keep missing that point
steals are broken there is no debate here...
@@kessauman330 exactly… but the realism argument doesn’t get brought up when we say that though… 😂😂
Fix SHOOTING Or Nerf STEALS.✌🏾 Keep the game on equal grounds . Simple. I’m sick this passing lanes BS. Nerf Steals Mike.
PAUSE ON DAT frfr unc 😂
Its a game it's not real life.. Nothing realistic about this game. A game should be fun... This is not a job.. Casuals shouldn't be punished because of zenners... If shooting is working for you fine.. But I know many people who u installed 2k because they hop on and shooting 0-8 wide open with 90+ 3pt rating... youtubers don't care about the experience of 80% of 2k players. Yall want comp and harder sliders then let 2k put that shi in stage and proving grounds.. Parks and theater shouldn't be that difficult to shoot in
I like it this way. I like a challenge. I'm not a super sweat but I've always been anelite shooter. I shot 17% the first day and figured it out. Adapted and now im at 51%. Even if they change it back for the casuals. They gone be shooting 50%. And I'mma go back to 70%+
I like the current settings like a more realistic approach to the game
No badge, no hot zone, no shot-taking IQ on top of bad ball movement to wide open players and ninjas expect to shoot lights out. 2k25 is solid, a little tweeks are needed here and there, especially sluggish movement, low-rated players stealing and intercepting the ball at a high rate needs tuning, other than that everything else is a learning curve, so lab up and learning.
What exactly is solid? Everything is laggy, movement is sluggis in all game modes, perimetar contest dosent work unless you jump on someones head and thats considered a light contest in most cases even with 90+ perimetar, there’s no shooting percentage difference between a 78 and 99 rating everyone is shooting the same, interceptor teleport’s you, drive steals are abysmal, every baseline drive gets you out of bounds and the smartest solution to all of the problems is rhythm shooting… The only positive thing you can say about it is that it loads up.. and you can buy clothes in stores.. Solid waste of time and money unfortunately
Sounds to me that RUclipsr want cheating in the game, they want the game to be easy so they can make clips and embarrasse the average player that doesn't have the time to play all day every day.
I’m listening unc but you falling in that game sent me 🤣🤣
RNG wouldnt even be a problem if the animation didnt have 500 different ways of playing out, theres too many variables, green window could be smaller on each next shot even tho that would negate "getting hot" or takeover meter, but it would still be easier to make a shot sense the animation is the same. Now if they did just the different animations and no RNG that would also work, both at the same time is too much for a fucking videogame I wanna play after I get off of work
The amount of crying about shooting is crazy i jus went 6/7 in rec and hit 4 in a row with a 83 3point rating stop taking bad shots change ur settings get busy...
Yea cuz they fixed the shooting 😂😂😂 Guarantee you’re shooting under 45%
@@andrefigaro4785what’d they do to fix shooting? I haven’t seen anything
exactly it’s fine
@@andrefigaro4785mofos thinking 45% is god tier, these are the same negatives we beat every year 😂😂
@@andrefigaro4785my personal opinion the best shooters / people who actually good at the game should shoot around 50-60% that’s a perfect in the middle if u hitting your 3s at that clip that’s good
I've adapted to the game and I use rhythm shooting and I went 10/10 in the rec, 7/7 from 3. Ppl want a different game but never use the new mechanics. Idk man I'm just a casual with a 9 to 5.
You know what the issue is the issue is people thinking that they’re the best shooters you’re going to miss it’s going to happen and the sooner people understand that the better you’ll feel about the game. Stop fighting the game and fighting the system and actually learn and take he to what the devs put in the game
@@ImNotNotAllCityChi missing because the game is forcing me to miss isn’t fun. Just because the devs put it in the games doesn’t mean it’s right. There is a reason they didn’t tell us about rng shooting before the game came out, they only care about money
@@bye3680 and here’s the thing the game is making you miss that tweet. Confirm that RNG is not in the game, The green window is based on the animation on screen the window isn’t just moving arbitrarily. It’s moving with the motion of your player, so you have the same green window in the same chance to green the shot if you follow the animation. The truth of the matter is most people are going out on high risk high reward before you really understand how the game works. Drop it down to low risk low reward for a couple of days and find your shot and bump it up gradually over a week and see if you aren’t shooting better.
All i know is my cue should be the same cue even if the timing is different or not and thats what feels off it feels more like rng even when timing your cue perfectly
Also if you’re wide open you should not have that big of a difference in timing realistically if its based off your cue
Yes every perfect release should be a bucket that’s the whole point of a PERFECT release and there shouldn’t be a one or 2 second delay when I try to shot so I let it go thinking it’s not working then I shot a very early
I think it should be more realistic. I do think a player can get hot but no one in real life is shooting 80 - 90 percent from 3 point range.
What's the game level for these modes: ref, park, provgrds, and pro-am
Every year, without fail, the game is fine, yet the cheeseballs and casuals complain about it until they dumb it down to allow everyone to shoot like Tyceno. I think shooting and defense are fine where they're at. I say this as a point guard who's shooting around 45% from three. That's realistic.
this "video game" is a REAL LIFE basketball simulater
I think they need to leave the shooting just how it is, it’s making the game more competitive, they want it too easy, learning to shoot on the proper animations is a skill and it’s going to take time to adjust
That’s what locks are for I don’t understand why they nerfed shooting if people are supposed to play defense.
shooting needs a buff I'm timing my shot the same time an miss for no reason I swear 🤦🏾♂️
It’s not about timing. It’s about the animation
@@UnknownSource08don’t need body want it to be off animations when there’s multiple different catch and shoot of the dribble animations and on top of they change your jump shot que
It would work great if 2k didn’t have so much Input delay online
I would be happy if they just put the old meters back in the game. I can't use these new meters so I have to go meter-less.
Great u should leave the training wheels off
@@vbep3tro120Doesnt take away from the fact that meters are trash. Still got dunk meter and layup meter
Trust me it's for the better I used to think I couldn't shoot without meter in 22k3 old gen last year on 2k24 next gen I got even better and unlocked a whole new playstyle cuz of it
You have to find a good looking jumper and releases you like visually and get to labbing up your release que in the jumpshot builder, keep in mind in 2k25 the jumpshots are faster so big man jumpers are actually valid if they're B+ release speed
I actually like the shooting. I’m in Love with Rhythm Shooting ngl
it is a SKILL GAP, in knowing your jumpshot timing , especially on high risk. the fact tht those of us all on high risk are playing w the most room for penalty, i believe if we time it correct it should go in… why add whites going on, for the casuals if you’re just going to limit those playing with maximum risk settings
The bottom line is the 2K community doesn’t like change. Only thing they wanna do is glitch and cheese all day and with the new shooting mechanics that’s not happening and everyone is upset.
@@Streets3544 you like for 2k to control when you make your shots?
I felt visual ques were a bit off this year and this confirmed that
That Mike Wang post is from LAST YEAR. Yet everyone reacted to it like its new. Yall memory cant be that fried.
“Steph doesn’t shoot 50 percent.” True. Steph also doesn’t shoot wide open shots. He’s shooting off the dribble shots and step back shots a lot. People like this because they get to play lazy defense.
To all my casuals out there this doesn't applies to you, just have fun, only comp, and sweats are complaining
Because yall use to shooting 30 to 40%
They should appease both …arcade and realism. Leave the shooting like it is in “proving grounds and Pro am” and everything else similar to the past 2ks
Went through same thing last year... love it.. it is more balanced. Leave it the way it is
That was Mike Wang's post from last year. He went with a different option this year. Not 1 or 2.
I pray to god they don’t change shooting. Don’t change defense neither. Make better decisions. Skill up . Period
I wouldn't be annoyed if the ai in MyCareer could miss a shot or two.
so just to be that one guy. i used my zen this morning and tried using an old script for shooting and funny enough they worked i tried the whole 6 shots. and i just set it to 585 ms and was guaranteed greens 4 in a row and then i bricked. but once i went in for a dunk. it reset that algorithm.. so zens work
I sooo glad they did this to mycareer ONLY.
Lowkey I don’t even care anymore, I’ve played about 4 hours of gameplay this year. I can already see that they are trying hard to appeal to the Fortnite gang.
Y’all can have it and I’ll just be a viewer on twitch and YT.
@@solarpoweredafricanvegansp178 i feel like i got scammed by 2k cause they didnt tell anyone about rng shooting and we had to find out through a youtuber
Get rid of greens all together, it’s not a real life aspect of basketball, most people don’t know if they shot is going in when they shoot it irl, yes you should still need good shot timing
I like it even though I’m struggling with my shot, I say just tweak a bit. Ppl have to learn to adjust, and this is coming from a gamer who has been playing since Atari 2600 🤣
Layup are too easy let’s talk about that
if we are nba players playing high level basketball then it shouldn’t be crazy percentages
I see a lot of folks complaining about the game, but its being more realistic they making it where you have to utilize your team a bit more instead of seeing one person dribble all day and then shoot all the shots fr .. in real life even if you perfect your shot you will still miss majority of the time even if your open and yes even curry struggles in real life when it comes to shooting go look at his percentages game to game .. yall need to stop complaining and just hoop and use your teammates instead of trying to iso all day plain and simple
Perfect releases should be a green, if not what’s the point. For as many people that were lighting it up on 2k, there was just as many people on 2k that still couldn’t shoot for shit
Skill based matchmaking is kinda bs too, not every game needs to be sweaty lol there's game modes for that
If they change the game back to how it was, make the contest better! If not, leave it as is. Play smarter not harder
Now people can just blame 2k for missing instead of themselves, there’s no skill in that
Listen if I had a perfect shot, it should go in..
I think shooting needs a *Little* buff, maybe a 50ms shot difference towards a 25ms towards on the lightly early and a 25ms on slightly late or what ever your release may be 🤷 😂what I do know is , if this is the “New” shooting and *NBA2k* is having to go this route to battle with cheaters, make it where if *Cheaters* if be caught red-handed on their gameplay, on streams or whatever how you can catch them, they should be *Console Banned/Ip Banned* I know it sounds harsh but bro they’re people on here actually playing *Legit* the whole *Community* shouldn’t have to suffer due to people being dishonest with there gameplay. Idk 😂 that’s my opinion
True shooters are gonna realize that you gotta use X and tempo shooting to be consistent fr
I’m not really having a problem with shooting the Rhythm shooting is so broken if you know your visual cue but I prefer 20 shooting no rng, does bring cheaters tho so idk
Just leave the shooting the way it is... it's fine
Men crying like little itches. Hahaha y’all funny as hell
This is a simple fix the creators of street hoops need to come back and make a game so people can go complain about the arcade mechanics this is NBA basketball not street hoops 2K is doing a phenomenal job. The people who want to choose the game complain the most good players don’t wanna adjust. It seems the men today are weak and reflecting through a video game. I’m not exempt from criticism so by all means let me hear it.
All I know is I feel like I release at the same time yet I go from slightly late then early then green
THE SHOOTING IS GREAT there shouldn’t be no rng
The people crying are the people who wanna dribble in your face for 23 seconds and then green a 3 from half court and when they cant they complain. Try passing the damn ball and take good shots. I'm loving the game and I've been lights out with both my PG and my big man. People wanna cheese the builder and use a 76 3 ball and wonder why they struggle 😂
You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about
@@tidepods2004unfortunately this game is made for casuals like him😔. Games sucks for anyone half decent
I think that making the game more difficult for cheaters with the excuse to make the shooting percentages more realistic via unrealistic mechanic behind shooting is stupid. I like 2K 23 shooting. I just feel like this is just too much for me to like. I don't like missing shots that's not fun I don't think everybody should make every single shot that was a bunch of bs.
Great video but I have one issue with the video I don't understand why people separate themselves by saying they're not a my career player no offense against you but you are a my career player when you select the option to create a player and go into park it's part of my career which means you are a my career player you may not play the NBA Simulator games but you are playing my career Uncle Demi I am a fan of the channel keep up the good work not trying to come out your head or anything but just a lot of people say this a lot they always say they do not play my career when they are playing my career you select the option when you started the game correct when you made your my player which is part of my career🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️😂😂