Thank you, John. Although I am a recovering catholic, I stopped listening to the people who keep saying “They lied to you about Jesus”. It feels good to leave them and go on my own understanding.🕯️🌷
Thank you, John, as a former catholic/ protestant christian, I finally realized the book is not infallible. And it amazes me how believers turn hostile when one questions the book, yet it says to love even those who don't go along with the herd mentality. I get them when I bring up the book saying the world is a flat disc. So then, if God dictated the book, why would he lie about the earth being flat? This really gives them a bowel constriction. Love needs no dogma, nor doctrine, and so, the clergy are not needed either, they perpetrate the myths, for control and profit. Love to you and all.
I was in lower Himalayas last month John, and have been weeping ever since. because the truth was too thick, its a local fact that Jesus (Eesha and Maada) had two beautiful daughters. It is also said that some yogic traditions (called akhadas and sampradayas) are responsible to look after his line, and even to this day some yogis of the agnisrava and other traditions track and train his descendants. But that was the least of things, one yogi even showed me a yogic mudra called kechri that Jesus used to hibernate like dead for those nights. at this point It feels fairly certain that Jesus escaped to what is today India, and even more striking is he has already escaped his wife Maada (Magdalene Mary) months before they assassinated them on cross. It is also well known that after killing Jesus the roman empire still could not stop the ever growing following of his path and that is when they hijacked his identity and started the roman catholic church. Jesus only told the doubting Thomas of his plans, and no wonder Thomas left everything and followed Jesus through the same route through africa and madagascar to india. OMG... this whole thing has turned my whole world upside down, i feel so cheated for through my entire life..
I’ve been resonating with the Yoga Sutras as of late, it’s all a translation. Take what works and what makes sense and leave the rest. It’s our lesson for everything we experience outside of ourselves. Take what works for you and leave the rest. Judgements of the rightness and wrongness of things gets us in trouble mentally and shifts our vibration to one of for and against. Instead of the oneness beneath all things. Anyway. Thank you for sharing your views on the Bible. It’s helpful to believe that it wasn’t necessarily this great big Luciferian agenda for power and control. Although power and control of the church over the masses did result for many years. Interesting talk. ❤🙏
My favorite author on the correct view of the gospels is Bishop Shelby Spong who challenges the traditional orthodox position and literally received death threats for it. After reading his works i am convinced he had some very compelling arguments to make, for sure gives much to ponder. Thanks John fo all you do!
I also get "miffed" at spiritual (even well respected and established ones) content creators that use "click bait" titles to draw views... especially the prevalence of fear-based titles and topics; like: You've been lied to, The World will change, Collapse in 2024... enough already... we don't need angst... just love! Cheers!
I have often wondered at what point in Jesus' life did he realize that he was the fulfillment of the prophecy. I think it was probably the greatest inner struggle for him to come to this understanding and awareness and to acknowledge it to himself first and then accept the mission and purpose that His Father God was calling him to, knowing what was going to happen to the prophesied Messiah. His blood, sweat and tears in the garden of Gethsemane were his final wrestling with his acceptance of his great mission of sacrificial Love. ✝️
@@suzanneemerson2625 Having been raised in the Catholic faith, the concept of sacrificial love is an aspect of love that is focused on, so it is perhaps through this lens that I view Yeshua's mission.
Only the bagatha Gita they say is the literal words of Arjuna and Krysna and he say similar stuff like lord jesua... tears are transformational and the texts that most tears bring to me where autobiography of a yogui of Yogananda but for lots of people is the bible and Jesua story... those tears are transformative it make you better little by little, it give you compassion.
I stopped watching other "spirituality" channels. Especially the one preaching doom and gloom. I choose not to be fearful. The Beatles said it. Love is all you need.
A co-opted man! Talk about Mary and the death of the goddess in that ancient world. It is so good to hear you utter the concept of infallibility. It is a very good starting point for youngsters. And, a lovely reminder for me.
Hey John 🙂After watching several of your videos, I must admit that I've come to realize that it's even harder than I thought to identify the kernel of truth about Jesus in the Bible. For example, based on what some more progressive scholars (like bart Ehrman) have been teaching about Jesus, even though he probably never said or even thought that he was God, they seem pretty convinced that there's enough historical evidence to at least conclude that he most probably thought he was the prophesied messiah, who was supposed to overthrow the enemies of God and set up his eternal kingdom on earth... which I thought was still pretty weird, albeit less extravagant than claiming to be God himself in the flesh. And now, through your videos and regressed memories (which I trust very much), I've discovered that he didn't even think he was the messiah. So, it's a bit sad that it's so difficult to know what kind of person Jesus really was and what he really taught based solely on the Bible itself, as he was probably very unique and enlightened and deserves to be known for who he really was and not this whole mythology that was built about him. Thanks John !
I think this is where friction starts between me and these Christians is that I do not like the Biblical version of Jesus. This version of Jesus you speak of (among others in this community) is a lot more human and relatable. The moment I mention this in front of my Christian friends they're saying it is blasphemy and the Bible isn't up for debate, it's got all the evidence and ad nauseum. I got to believe their version of Jesus or I'm going to hell. I think it's time we face the fact that these are negotiated stories (Dan McClellan is awesome) and religion is a human construct. People are realizing this and they're leaving the faith because they are discovering there are more paths to truth than what is ordained by a 2000 year old institution. Just my two cents.
Each to their own, as my mother taught me. I was raised Catholic, and at a very young aged questioned everything and disagreed with most 😂 but there's also good there, and although I stopped attending many years ago, I live my life as loving as i can, as this is what i took from what Jesus taught me x
I like this! They didn’t lie because they didn’t know him. I’ve been listening to the Christ letters. Wow! Perhaps you’re familiar with them. If so, it would be fascinating to hear your perspective about them. Namaste
I had it once explained to me that it was like a channeled text. While I think this can be true there are many parts that feel like there was an Agenda. And perhaps it didn’t start that way but at some point got twisted along the way. Thank you for another great topic.
@@johnofnew true and also inconsistencies. I’ll be the 1st to admit I don’t know much about it. I was raised Greek Orthodox (as we have talked about before). And we only went to the New Ken church for holidays. I also attended a Baptist church for a couple of years. And that was all brimstone and fire. That is where the “channeled” theory was brought up.
None of the writers of the Bible had an interest in writing a historical text in the way modern readers would think of it. There are many different genres of books in the Bible and they are meant to be spiritual teaching.
We don't. As I say all over my channel truth is found everywhere, but truth is subjective. On my channel I speak my truth. I don't expect anyone to believe me. Spirituality is a personal journey. Love is my truth and it has proven true for over 30 years now in my life.
Hi john, im curious do you remember jeshua being particular about his food choices? Did he favor certain foods that would be the most nourishing for our temple? I have a feeling you might have done a video on this topic being that there is so much controversy surrounding it and so much conflicting info as to what foods are optimal vs what foods should be avoided. Thanks john🙏
I mostly agree...however I do know that in the canonization of biblical texts occured multiple times. I...feel that while many, even the Usurper, raised on the belief that a sacrifice was the only way to remove sin, could fall under your perview. Even IF Jeshua was forgiving sins way before he died. Many, even those in the canon councils over the years, could fall under this. That said, I do feel most modern pastors, priests, and anyone that has gone to seminary school, do wuthbold information from their flocks. It may not be outright lies...but certainly, ommiting info or twisting words to fit an agenda are both negative. I understand we all do and I do not judge...much...as we are all human. Either way, yes. Love. Thst...thst is the main tenant. Love thy neighbor. Not the Cpnvservative neighnor, not the Liberal neighbor, not the clean, well dressed neighbor. Just...thy neighbor.
@@johnofnew exactly Any who walked with Jeshua was long gone, the stories based on 3rd hand acounts at best. Henxe why I feel we can igbore most mosern teachings and, like you mentiobed, fins what resonatrs with you, the divine individual.
Hi john, l recently heard a clip that said after his crucifixion jesus went to live in India, continued his ministry and died aged 80....your comments please. That story makes me feel very happy.
I do think that the gospel of Thomas, discovered in 1945 in nag hamadi Egypt 114 direct sayings from Jesus are the most legit teachings from him , what do you think John ?
I think it like all the ancient text are written with an agenda but truth can be found in all of them. on my @therecoveringcatholic channel check out my personal interpretation there.
What was Yesuas beliefs? Was he gnostic. Christians came after his cruifixction so he wouldnt necessarily worship himself. Was he God or trinity as church teaches 3 in 1 God or messenger of God. Was he a man or God in flesh?
He was a man who discovered his divinity and was showing us how to do it. The trinity didn't come into christian theology until hundreds of years later.
Hey John my friend, Dee here. Were the apostles literate? As simple fishermen and common people, would they be able to read and write? Did Yeshua ever write anything that you can recall ?
Hi John.. Love you and what you do. But i must say if you're point is no one was there and so nothing can either be proven or disproven to be a lie. Then why do you continue to quote verses from the Bible?? Does my question make sense?
Yes, it does. But why do I quote Buddha, Gandhi, Krishna, Yoda, Shakespeare, and many more? It's because I am speaking my truth. The things that I quote or things that ring true to me. As I have often said on my channel I am only speaking my truth. I expect no one to believe what I've say or follow anything I do. Spirituality is a personal journey. I don't think you whole hardly throw away something without listening. I have found great truth even in Marvel movies. The key is to remain true to yourself.
Yes ..,all you need is love however it is about Being in a State of love(entering the kingdom of your heavens) not a feeling or belief.The fact is the “words” as interpreted by belief are not factual they are only A persons Belief System(BS).The fact is the scriptures have objective facts written in math.I don’t mean the BS childish spiritual numerology.Genesis 1:1 is a mathematical miracle treatise in itself.Amongst the multitude of equations is it calculates Pi very eloquently and simply.John 1:1 using the same formula calculates Eulers number.These are not coincidence the odds are absurdly high.The scriptures are full of these signs.They are evidence that the foundation of everything is in math which is immutable however our choices are all subjective because that is how we evolve/ grow.Basing choices on beliefs is a trap that cannot be escaped. by believing.Being an open minded skeptic and believing nothing and letting go / overcoming our state of fear through the self centered mind ( the ego)is the only escape from our own BS.
They didn't "lie" they just created a fictional character based on Yeshua Ben Joseph and what he taught. Even the name "Jesus" is an interpretation of "Yeshua." They went on to create myths and dogma to serve their agendas. I guess in the end you cant "lie" when it's not really about the same person lol.
@@johnofnew no. This video just came up in my feed. My question was based on everything you said up to that point. I'm guessing then that you'd tend to agree with Alan Watts then? Also, I wish I could actually meet him like that. If only
Such a beautiful simple message .. Love one another. The language of the universe. TY John.
Thank you, John. Although I am a recovering catholic, I stopped listening to the people who keep saying “They lied to you about Jesus”. It feels good to leave them and go on my own understanding.🕯️🌷
@@JulieAnne17-dn 🙏🌠🕯♥️🦋
Live a joyful and loving life. I'm putting that on a t-shirt. Thanks John.
Good morning John. I'm at the hospital so no coffee for me this morning. Enjoy yours extra for me ❤
THANK YOU GOD FOR THE PERFECT HEALTH YOU ARE RECEIVING AMEN
God Bless!
I hope everything went swimmingly.🫂
Thank you, John, as a former catholic/ protestant christian, I finally realized the book is not infallible. And it amazes me how believers turn hostile when one questions the book, yet it says to love even those who don't go along with the herd mentality. I get them when I bring up the book saying the world is a flat disc. So then, if God dictated the book, why would he lie about the earth being flat? This really gives them a bowel constriction. Love needs no dogma, nor doctrine, and so, the clergy are not needed either, they perpetrate the myths, for control and profit. Love to you and all.
Yes !
Ty, John, what a perfectly simple truth. 😊
I was in lower Himalayas last month John, and have been weeping ever since. because the truth was too thick, its a local fact that Jesus (Eesha and Maada) had two beautiful daughters. It is also said that some yogic traditions (called akhadas and sampradayas) are responsible to look after his line, and even to this day some yogis of the agnisrava and other traditions track and train his descendants. But that was the least of things, one yogi even showed me a yogic mudra called kechri that Jesus used to hibernate like dead for those nights. at this point It feels fairly certain that Jesus escaped to what is today India, and even more striking is he has already escaped his wife Maada (Magdalene Mary) months before they assassinated them on cross.
It is also well known that after killing Jesus the roman empire still could not stop the ever growing following of his path and that is when they hijacked his identity and started the roman catholic church. Jesus only told the doubting Thomas of his plans, and no wonder Thomas left everything and followed Jesus through the same route through africa and madagascar to india. OMG... this whole thing has turned my whole world upside down, i feel so cheated for through my entire life..
How do you get to India via Madagascar? Bit of an extra long trip.
I’ve been resonating with the Yoga Sutras as of late, it’s all a translation. Take what works and what makes sense and leave the rest. It’s our lesson for everything we experience outside of ourselves. Take what works for you and leave the rest. Judgements of the rightness and wrongness of things gets us in trouble mentally and shifts our vibration to one of for and against. Instead of the oneness beneath all things. Anyway. Thank you for sharing your views on the Bible. It’s helpful to believe that it wasn’t necessarily this great big Luciferian agenda for power and control. Although power and control of the church over the masses did result for many years. Interesting talk. ❤🙏
Thank you John.
My favorite author on the correct view of the gospels is Bishop Shelby Spong who challenges the traditional orthodox position and literally received death threats for it. After reading his works i am convinced he had some very compelling arguments to make, for sure gives much to ponder. Thanks John fo all you do!
Plus his name was always fun to say out loud.
Just Lovely to spend time in Your precense.. and listen 🙏🏼 to thoughts about Yesua ❤
Love one another.❤
Thank you, John.
I also get "miffed" at spiritual (even well respected and established ones) content creators that use "click bait" titles to draw views... especially the prevalence of fear-based titles and topics; like: You've been lied to, The World will change, Collapse in 2024... enough already... we don't need angst... just love! Cheers!
Exactly. Even when the content is positive, the clickbait titling is dodgey.
It's my first time listening to you John of New I appreciate the usage of perspective over perception you apply. Thanks
I agree with your views on this, John... Would love to have a face to face discussion on this someday. thanks and have a great day
Yes! Thank you!❤
Morning!
I have often wondered at what point in Jesus' life did he realize that he was the fulfillment of the prophecy. I think it was probably the greatest inner struggle for him to come to this understanding and awareness and to acknowledge it to himself first and then accept the mission and purpose that His Father God was calling him to, knowing what was going to happen to the prophesied Messiah. His blood, sweat and tears in the garden of Gethsemane were his final wrestling with his acceptance of his great mission of sacrificial Love. ✝️
I do not believe he believed he was the prophesied "Messiah"
@@johnofnew I understand ~ perhaps he did not believe he was the prophesied Messiah.
@@suzanneemerson2625 Having been raised in the Catholic faith, the concept of sacrificial love is an aspect of love that is focused on, so it is perhaps through this lens that I view Yeshua's mission.
Only the bagatha Gita they say is the literal words of Arjuna and Krysna and he say similar stuff like lord jesua... tears are transformational and the texts that most tears bring to me where autobiography of a yogui of Yogananda but for lots of people is the bible and Jesua story... those tears are transformative it make you better little by little, it give you compassion.
Very practical, logical, and senseible😊
I stopped watching other "spirituality" channels. Especially the one preaching doom and gloom. I choose not to be fearful. The Beatles said it. Love is all you need.
Thank you 🙏
A co-opted man! Talk about Mary and the death of the goddess in that ancient world. It is so good to hear you utter the concept of infallibility. It is a very good starting point for youngsters. And, a lovely reminder for me.
what?
I know it's true what happened to Jesus.❤ One God one belief system 🙏. Jesus is pure love and divine peace. ✨️ ✝️🌟🌠⚖️🤴✡️
Such a very simple but very powerful statement, love one another. If mankind would do this, all wars would end. I agree with you
Hey John 🙂After watching several of your videos, I must admit that I've come to realize that it's even harder than I thought to identify the kernel of truth about Jesus in the Bible. For example, based on what some more progressive scholars (like bart Ehrman) have been teaching about Jesus, even though he probably never said or even thought that he was God, they seem pretty convinced that there's enough historical evidence to at least conclude that he most probably thought he was the prophesied messiah, who was supposed to overthrow the enemies of God and set up his eternal kingdom on earth... which I thought was still pretty weird, albeit less extravagant than claiming to be God himself in the flesh. And now, through your videos and regressed memories (which I trust very much), I've discovered that he didn't even think he was the messiah. So, it's a bit sad that it's so difficult to know what kind of person Jesus really was and what he really taught based solely on the Bible itself, as he was probably very unique and enlightened and deserves to be known for who he really was and not this whole mythology that was built about him. Thanks John !
One of my past life memories is denying he was the messiah.
This rings true. I have my opinion or understanding of Jesus/Jeshua, others have their.
I think this is where friction starts between me and these Christians is that I do not like the Biblical version of Jesus. This version of Jesus you speak of (among others in this community) is a lot more human and relatable. The moment I mention this in front of my Christian friends they're saying it is blasphemy and the Bible isn't up for debate, it's got all the evidence and ad nauseum. I got to believe their version of Jesus or I'm going to hell. I think it's time we face the fact that these are negotiated stories (Dan McClellan is awesome) and religion is a human construct. People are realizing this and they're leaving the faith because they are discovering there are more paths to truth than what is ordained by a 2000 year old institution. Just my two cents.
I agree!
Thankyou John
Simply love
I love the theme of this video! It’s empowering! Thank you! ❤
Thank you so much for sharing this ❤. So much truth.
Thank you Hermano great message mucho Amor God Bless everyone
Each to their own, as my mother taught me. I was raised Catholic, and at a very young aged questioned everything and disagreed with most 😂 but there's also good there, and although I stopped attending many years ago, I live my life as loving as i can, as this is what i took from what Jesus taught me x
I like this! They didn’t lie because they didn’t know him. I’ve been listening to the Christ letters. Wow! Perhaps you’re familiar with them. If so, it would be fascinating to hear your perspective about them. Namaste
I had it once explained to me that it was like a channeled text. While I think this can be true there are many parts that feel like there was an Agenda. And perhaps it didn’t start that way but at some point got twisted along the way. Thank you for another great topic.
The problem with it being a "channeled text" is that is is not in any way supported by history.
@@johnofnew true and also inconsistencies. I’ll be the 1st to admit I don’t know much about it. I was raised Greek Orthodox (as we have talked about before). And we only went to the New Ken church for holidays. I also attended a Baptist church for a couple of years. And that was all brimstone and fire. That is where the “channeled” theory was brought up.
Thank you John. Loved this video. Hope to attend the Mind, Body, Spirit gathering in Columbus in Sept so I can meet you. How wonderful that will be.
Amen
Thank John❤
Great topic.
Thank you 🌞 ❤
That was a very helpful message. Thank you 😊
Conversations With God by Neale Donald Walsch
What?
@johnofnew it's a book, Neale Donald Walsh has done 3 books I believe, called "conversations with God"
👍💜💜💜
None of the writers of the Bible had an interest in writing a historical text in the way modern readers would think of it. There are many different genres of books in the Bible and they are meant to be spiritual teaching.
and none were who they are attributed to
If the words of the gospel are hearsay, how, for example, do we know Yeshua said Love one another ?
We don't. As I say all over my channel truth is found everywhere, but truth is subjective. On my channel I speak my truth. I don't expect anyone to believe me. Spirituality is a personal journey. Love is my truth and it has proven true for over 30 years now in my life.
Hi john, im curious do you remember jeshua being particular about his food choices? Did he favor certain foods that would be the most nourishing for our temple? I have a feeling you might have done a video on this topic being that there is so much controversy surrounding it and so much conflicting info as to what foods are optimal vs what foods should be avoided. Thanks john🙏
"I would be more worried about what comes out of your mouth than what goes in"
Jeshua really liked figs according to John. 😊
The Evangelists were inspired by the Holy Spirit that is where the New Testament has its credability from...
I respect your belief, though I disagree.
I mostly agree...however I do know that in the canonization of biblical texts occured multiple times.
I...feel that while many, even the Usurper, raised on the belief that a sacrifice was the only way to remove sin, could fall under your perview. Even IF Jeshua was forgiving sins way before he died.
Many, even those in the canon councils over the years, could fall under this.
That said, I do feel most modern pastors, priests, and anyone that has gone to seminary school, do wuthbold information from their flocks.
It may not be outright lies...but certainly, ommiting info or twisting words to fit an agenda are both negative. I understand we all do and I do not judge...much...as we are all human.
Either way, yes. Love. Thst...thst is the main tenant. Love thy neighbor.
Not the Cpnvservative neighnor, not the Liberal neighbor, not the clean, well dressed neighbor.
Just...thy neighbor.
The Bible was not even compiled until after the Nicean council in 325 A.D. the first accepted version is the Codex Sinaiticus
@@johnofnew exactly
Any who walked with Jeshua was long gone, the stories based on 3rd hand acounts at best. Henxe why I feel we can igbore most mosern teachings and, like you mentiobed, fins what resonatrs with you, the divine individual.
Hi john, l recently heard a clip that said after his crucifixion jesus went to live in India, continued his ministry and died aged 80....your comments please.
That story makes me feel very happy.
Me to though I have no memory of it. Many in India believe it too.
Poor "they" get blamed for everything.
LOL
I do think that the gospel of Thomas, discovered in 1945 in nag hamadi Egypt 114 direct sayings from Jesus are the most legit teachings from him , what do you think John ?
I think it like all the ancient text are written with an agenda but truth can be found in all of them. on my @therecoveringcatholic channel check out my personal interpretation there.
What was Yesuas beliefs? Was he gnostic. Christians came after his cruifixction so he wouldnt necessarily worship himself. Was he God or trinity as church teaches 3 in 1 God or messenger of God. Was he a man or God in flesh?
He was a man who discovered his divinity and was showing us how to do it. The trinity didn't come into christian theology until hundreds of years later.
Hey John my friend, Dee here. Were the apostles literate? As simple fishermen and common people, would they be able to read and write? Did Yeshua ever write anything that you can recall ?
No and no
Hi John.. Love you and what you do. But i must say if you're point is no one was there and so nothing can either be proven or disproven to be a lie. Then why do you continue to quote verses from the Bible?? Does my question make sense?
Yes, it does. But why do I quote Buddha, Gandhi, Krishna, Yoda, Shakespeare, and many more? It's because I am speaking my truth. The things that I quote or things that ring true to me. As I have often said on my channel I am only speaking my truth. I expect no one to believe what I've say or follow anything I do. Spirituality is a personal journey. I don't think you whole hardly throw away something without listening. I have found great truth even in Marvel movies. The key is to remain true to yourself.
Not sure if Crucifixion was real.
I am sure : ruclips.net/video/HrQmewqQhkc/видео.htmlsi=Vr4M9FMheKM91gDJ
@@johnofnew if he crucified, was he survived after that?
Yes they did! all the other videos thumbnails say so jk jk 😂
LOL
Yes ..,all you need is love however it is about Being in a State of love(entering the kingdom of your heavens) not a feeling or belief.The fact is the “words” as interpreted by belief are not factual they are only A persons Belief System(BS).The fact is the scriptures have objective facts written in math.I don’t mean the BS childish spiritual numerology.Genesis 1:1 is a mathematical miracle treatise in itself.Amongst the multitude of equations is it calculates Pi very eloquently and simply.John 1:1 using the same formula calculates Eulers number.These are not coincidence the odds are absurdly high.The scriptures are full of these signs.They are evidence that the foundation of everything is in math which is immutable however our choices are all subjective because that is how we evolve/ grow.Basing choices on beliefs is a trap that cannot be escaped. by believing.Being an open minded skeptic and believing nothing and letting go / overcoming our state of fear through the self centered mind ( the ego)is the only escape from our own BS.
I think it is all far simpler
If they have no idea...then they are making stuff up and lying
I disagree
@@johnofnew You're entitled to feel the way you feel and so am I 🙏
yup
they do not know yet they peddle it off as truth when it is an unknown. That is lying.
But you could also say that about any new age teacher as well.
They didn't "lie" they just created a fictional character based on Yeshua Ben Joseph and what he taught. Even the name "Jesus" is an interpretation of "Yeshua." They went on to create myths and dogma to serve their agendas. I guess in the end you cant "lie" when it's not really about the same person lol.
7:50 How do you know that's what he taught?
Have you checked out my channel? Underpass life regression I remembered meeting him.
@@johnofnew no. This video just came up in my feed. My question was based on everything you said up to that point. I'm guessing then that you'd tend to agree with Alan Watts then? Also, I wish I could actually meet him like that. If only
Thank you John ❤