Though it was not the same day, I saw bad religion for the first time in 2004 at warped tour. This song made Bad Religion my new favorite band that day.
theres definitely emotion in this song. you can even hear his passion, you'll truely believe that this man knows the worlds fucked up and he wants people to definietly wake up and to change for a better world.
Tell me; where is the love? In a careless creation When there’s no “above” There’s no justice Just a cause and a cure And a bounty of suffering It seems we all endure And what I’m frightened of Is that they call it “God’s love”
Lol!! Greg looks like a suburban dad!! That's awesome. Makes him ever more punk. Amen TheMaruyamatakashi!!! I agree. Love, love, love these guys!! This is my one of my all time favorite songs.
"The process of belief is an elixir when you're weak I must confess, at times I indulge it on the sneak But generally my outlook's not so bleak I'm materialist. Call me a humanist I guess I'm full of doubt but I'll gladly have it out with you" Greg Graffin defines himself as a naturalist or, as in the lyrics above, a materialist, meaning that he believes the methodological investigation of the natural world through science provides answers that are superior to those provided by religion.
I was actually search RUclips for the album version because I'd seen a couple of live goes at this where they didn't give it the intensity I wanted. This is king though, well done.
Just because I choose not to follow a religion doesn't mean I'm against religion in any way. I'm against those people who capitalize and control others with the concept of religion.
"Faith in your partner, your fellow men, your friends, is very important, because without it there's no mutual component to your relationship, and relationships are important. So faith plays an important role, but faith in people you don't know, faith in religious or political leaders or even people on stages, people who are popular in the public eye, you shouldn't have faith in those people. You should listen to what they have to say and use it." -Greg Gaffin
The best part of people complaining about religion when a Bad Religion songis playing is that the band member's believe in a God. It's true. They use songs such as "God's Love" and "Atheist Peace" to explain that today's vision of religious beliefs has been drastically warped into an excuse for causing harm or fighting. Fun fact of the day. :D
@Propagandhi900 I wish it too, but hey... think it this way... he was our prof anyway in some way... I've read his "punk manifest" around a thousand times... the most beautiful things to learn are those we want to learn
I didn't say that Do What You Want is about religion. I was just providing the first bad religion lyric that was atheist that I could think of..of which there are many.
We r all different and believe in many different things. Why should we really care bout what other ppl believe or think ? That's why there are so many struggles-I believe in God but I like this band a lot and no one can ask me something like "how can u hear this if you believe in God?" -I think what this song says makes sense but it doesn't mean I'm going to change my mind 'bout believing in God...changing someone's mind is very hard, so stop trying to change them and focus on what U believe.
I would say the lyrics in Petty the Dead sound atheistic: "In the end you may find there's no guiding subtle light, no ancestors or friend no judge of wrong or right Just eternal silence and cormancy and a final everlasting peace"
If you would like one out of numerous examples of Bad Religion writing atheistic lyics here is one of the most obvious examples "But I'll believe in God when one and one are five." That's from Do What You Want. Disagreeing with a concept doesn't make the concept a reality...
The only situation I can imagine it being difficult to understand a single word of this song is A) If English is not your first language or B) You're very hard of hearing..
I just refuse to think that there isn't someting bigger out there actually thats what pisses me off the most when people say were here just because "Just Because"! so iggnorant.
At least you're open minded. Refreshing & the best way to be. Plus the whole bad religion name isn't just specifically aimed at branding all religion as evil, more a protest at any form of organisation that seems to lose it's mind & way. They have far more songs no about religion than about religion.
I agree. Yes you're unlikely to find many Christians in churches.Most use the place like a social club and if you don't follow the rules you are viciously attacked. Thing is, if you do believe that some things matter and suspect the only hope for mankind is the Love message brought by JC...? So I choose trying to do the job while fending off the flower ladies' scissors as well as beatings from people who tell me I am a hypocrite ...just...because I call myself Christian.(Whatever I mean by that)
Nope, I'm an ordinary boring male with no coloured hair, no fancy clothes or posters of naked girls on the walls, no idols I look up to, no religious belifs and no-one that tells me what to do.
Being an atheist does not require "a bold denial" of God's existence. Atheism is merely the lack of belief in a god or gods. Definitionally speaking, Graffin is an atheist, despite the fact that he does not use the label to identify himself, which is not surprising, given that we know through his lyrics that he "scoffs at labels, defies censuses and despises group mentality."
and as for emo goes. i think its time we end the phrase emo because reality isnt everything at least a little emotional? It doesnt neccessarly means its over the top emotional like some artists are. But everything is emotion idiots. In any song someones either angry, sad, happy, loving. In the end its all about how the artist feels and feelings are emotions. They use their music and lyrics to tell you what they see
Ha ha! Sorry Superterrestrial, you're wrong on both counts. Your A) guess is logical but English is my first language and I'm not aware that I'm hard of hearing. I do sing soprano though and I suppose I may have deafened myself trying to sing 'Casta Diva' or some impossible Wagner! Ann
I'm a Christian, and their music I know, is not anti-God. Greg Graffin is the only atheist (and maybe Brian Baker) in the band. Wackerman believes in God, Jay has spiritual beliefs, Brett is Agnostic, and I'm not sure about Hetson. Anyway, doesn't matter. We should all accept everyone, regardless of belief. Accpet them as who they are, and not their religion. Besides, lets all agree that BAD RELIGION ROCKS!!!!!
"MY christianity is completely individualistic to me" If you're going to believe and accept whatever you pick and choose with your reason from a religion why not skip the dogma and just go with the reason? There's no reason to believe a god exists aside from wishful thinking and even then it's just in hopes of giving us the illusion of solving a problem when it really doesn't.
@subliminaltikva same here, the only truth I know is the one I see and it is a mixture of love, hate, life, death and everything, so no, I do not believe in justice just actions and reactions.
I think you're misinterpreting their message. They're not anti-God or anti-religion at all. They just want people to look at things with a sense of reason instead of blind faith and ignorance.
As a Christian, I think it's great that Bad Religion is challenging concepts of God. I cringe at the way Christ often is represented these days, especially by Christians. Christianity is a fucking journey, for Christ's sake. Or am I fucking wrong? Ann
So is the meatball monster. Invisible, intangible, and ineffable. By your logic we must be agnostic about him too. The point here is that the burden of proof is on the believer, not the skeptic. Think if things were the other way around, it would be chaos trying to disprove any and all half-assed assumptions.
@horrible667 it's a shame that not all believers think like you do. Unfortunatly, way to often, people explain injustice and inhumanity with religion. e.g Hinduism. As long as people fight injustice and dont accept things like capitalism beacuse of religion, i respect all kinds of beliefs.
You said you were more intelligent that me, than after that you said Emo's have no rights. If you can't see the contradiction there, you're either blind or too arrogant to know the difference.
You can disagree with Atheism. It's legit. I do, however, agree with you that it's akin to having doubts about the non-existence of Santa. I apply Occam's Razor and believe in a universe devoid of supernatural entities.
Well, at least I've qualified the statement! I am with you on 2) Iamkl132. I am with you on 1) to some extent, maybe a large extent, except that I'm not sure I believe in the existence of 'progress'. Evidence (my own subjective) suggests to me that anything approaching 'progress' would be towards regaining a lost 'state' and as I write, the only path I have found towards 'achieving' this an attempt at the path of Selfless Love, which is what JC lived and preached, even to his own death. Rebel!
EVERYBODY has the right to do whatever he/she pleases as long as nobody else is harmed by it. Emo's don't harm anyone just by their pure existence so they DO have a right to exist (although I don't like the fashion emo trend that's been going on very much). You on the other hand, heavily insult the intellect of anyone watching this video, just with your presence and your name...
There is also no evidence that unicorns, flying meatball monsters and fairies don't exist... would you say you don't hold an opinion about those things too?
a lot of Christians are hypocrites for sure, but you can't say that all of us are, after all, you haven't met us all. Christianity is about following what Jesus taught and trying to be better than we are. key words "try" and "we" if a Christian thinks s/he is better than you then yeah, they're not following what Jesus taught.
well, okay, technically you can say it, but then you're just wrong. you're prejudging people based on bad experiences, either from you or whoever taught you to judge people. it's the same as someone saying "i've met/known of black people who committed crimes, so it's safe to say that all black people commit crimes" ps, Christianity isn't about being perfect, it's about realizing that we can't be.
Have I written 'I am a Christian'? I must have been drunk! It's not a very useful statement for two reasons: the question 'Are you a Christian?' is loaded with personal baggage and so would be such a bald answer! May I describe myself as a student of Love as defined by Jesus of Nazareth aka The Messiah? There is a very long list of spiritual paths I have and still do, study. I am not familiar with Graffinism, however but it would be great if it could destroy all my delusions!
Its amazing how atheists can be so passionately against something that to them doesn't exist! Jesus gave me a new soul after i attmepted suicide when i took him up on an offer in the bible, i did ask for a few weeks before something happened... since i had hundreds of visions, etc. beyond WORDs.. me ..in my room! Tell me what doesn't exist? We may not, but He sure does. " How much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!" Nightly and wait, WAIT more.and see!
Bad Religion is absolutely beautiful. I need to stop being so cheap and buy this Album
Though it was not the same day, I saw bad religion for the first time in 2004 at warped tour. This song made Bad Religion my new favorite band that day.
theres definitely emotion in this song. you can even hear his passion, you'll truely believe that this man knows the worlds fucked up and he wants people to definietly wake up and to change for a better world.
you HAVE to love their drummer...
Tell me; where is the love?
In a careless creation
When there’s no “above”
There’s no justice
Just a cause and a cure
And a bounty of suffering
It seems we all endure
And what I’m frightened of
Is that they call it “God’s love”
great song great album great band great post great that kid who is not havin fun but he backstage in a bad religion show and i dont
BR FOR LIFE
This song is pretty freaking cool.. and the tune is catchy.
Can't get it off my head now XD
That's true man, they have have very strong points and is one of my favorites band too ;)
I freaking love this freaking song!
Lol!! Greg looks like a suburban dad!! That's awesome. Makes him ever more punk.
Amen TheMaruyamatakashi!!! I agree.
Love, love, love these guys!! This is my one of my all time favorite songs.
"The process of belief is an elixir when you're weak
I must confess, at times I indulge it on the sneak
But generally my outlook's not so bleak
I'm materialist. Call me a humanist
I guess I'm full of doubt but I'll gladly have it out with you"
Greg Graffin defines himself as a naturalist or, as in the lyrics above, a materialist, meaning that he believes the methodological investigation of the natural world through science provides answers that are superior to those provided by religion.
amazing lyrics, Bad Religion the best!!!
I wish Greg was my prof...I am jealous of those who are taught by him.
I'm not too big of a Punk Fan...but I think I really like these guys.
Yeah, they are a good band
Awesome song, I have to see them live!
Best line up ! Bring Brooks and Hetson back !
It's just one of a hell, and no doubt in that.
They NEED to bring this song back!!!
LOL I didn't notice him until you posted it. Yeah he looks like is having to much fun. LOL
thanks a bunch for uploading all of this.
andrewzot 10 years!
I was actually search RUclips for the album version because I'd seen a couple of live goes at this where they didn't give it the intensity I wanted. This is king though, well done.
Just because I choose not to follow a religion doesn't mean I'm against religion in any way.
I'm against those people who capitalize and control others with the concept of religion.
"Faith in your partner, your fellow men, your friends, is very important, because without it there's no mutual component to your relationship, and relationships are important. So faith plays an important role, but faith in people you don't know, faith in religious or political leaders or even people on stages, people who are popular in the public eye, you shouldn't have faith in those people. You should listen to what they have to say and use it." -Greg Gaffin
The best part of people complaining about religion when a Bad Religion songis playing is that the band member's believe in a God. It's true.
They use songs such as "God's Love" and "Atheist Peace" to explain that today's vision of religious beliefs has been drastically warped into an excuse for causing harm or fighting.
Fun fact of the day. :D
ive listened to all their songs in less than 10 mins
I seriously laughed so hard at what you just typed here.... omg. This just made my day.
yeaaaaaaaaaaaahh!!!!
Couldn't say it better myself.
It's a trutha we all submit..
He makes a weird noise at the beginning lol
Well, I'm an atheist and I love Bad Religion.
@Propagandhi900 I wish it too, but hey... think it this way... he was our prof anyway in some way... I've read his "punk manifest" around a thousand times... the most beautiful things to learn are those we want to learn
I didn't say that Do What You Want is about religion. I was just providing the first bad religion lyric that was atheist that I could think of..of which there are many.
THEY CALL IT GOOOOOD'S LOVE!
Nice song
We r all different and believe in many different things. Why should we really care bout what other ppl believe or think ? That's why there are so many struggles-I believe in God but I like this band a lot and no one can ask me something like "how can u hear this if you believe in God?" -I think what this song says makes sense but it doesn't mean I'm going to change my mind 'bout believing in God...changing someone's mind is very hard, so stop trying to change them and focus on what U believe.
I would say the lyrics in
Petty the Dead sound atheistic:
"In the end you may find there's no guiding subtle light,
no ancestors or friend no judge of wrong or right
Just eternal silence and cormancy and a final everlasting peace"
Brooks has got his rudiments DOWN.
If you would like one out of numerous examples of Bad Religion writing atheistic lyics here is one of the most obvious examples
"But I'll believe in God when one and one are five."
That's from Do What You Want.
Disagreeing with a concept doesn't make the concept a reality...
The only situation I can imagine it being difficult to understand a single word of this song is A) If English is not your first language or B) You're very hard of hearing..
Can't help but to like it, catchy band, awesome song, I don't agree with atheism, but still a good song.
I hope Greg is this lively when giving lectures. Do you think Greg Graffin sings his lectures to his students?
@dumpweed69 EVERYONE should know about BR and their brilliant music...
and what I'm frigthen of is that they call it god's love.
:O no way, Bad Religion playing in KANSAS!?!?
I just refuse to think that there isn't someting bigger out there actually thats what pisses me off the most when people say were here just because "Just Because"! so iggnorant.
@potycox I respectfully disagree I think that Stranger Than Fiction is the best Bad Religion album, but hey that's my opinion .
At least you're open minded. Refreshing & the best way to be. Plus the whole bad religion name isn't just specifically aimed at branding all religion as evil, more a protest at any form of organisation that seems to lose it's mind & way. They have far more songs no about religion than about religion.
I agree. Yes you're unlikely to find many Christians in churches.Most use the place like a social club and if you don't follow the rules you are viciously attacked. Thing is, if you do believe that some things matter and suspect the only hope for mankind is the Love message brought by JC...? So I choose trying to do the job while fending off the flower ladies' scissors as well as beatings from people who tell me I am a hypocrite ...just...because I call myself Christian.(Whatever I mean by that)
Nope, I'm an ordinary boring male with no coloured hair, no fancy clothes or posters of naked girls on the walls, no idols I look up to, no religious belifs and no-one that tells me what to do.
Being an atheist does not require "a bold denial" of God's existence. Atheism is merely the lack of belief in a god or gods.
Definitionally speaking, Graffin is an atheist, despite the fact that he does not use the label to identify himself, which is not surprising, given that we know through his lyrics that he "scoffs at labels, defies censuses and despises group mentality."
I'm jewish, you're christian or W/E, We both love Bad Religion.. need anything more?
I'm sorry, I just can't give a reasonable reply to someone that's contratidcting himself in the same comment.
@horrible667 Something is either true or it is not. It has nothing to do with what works best.
@DesertAirman10 i think thats 3 words
and as for emo goes. i think its time we end the phrase emo because reality isnt everything at least a little emotional? It doesnt neccessarly means its over the top emotional like some artists are. But everything is emotion idiots. In any song someones either angry, sad, happy, loving. In the end its all about how the artist feels and feelings are emotions. They use their music and lyrics to tell you what they see
damn id give an arm and a leg to be there...
que buena cancion y de verdad son letras muy inteligentes
jajaja
Haha!
Is he just painted on in the background?
Good spot!
Yes. Its because they play them faster.
Right on Oreoh8r2006.
Ha ha! Sorry Superterrestrial, you're wrong on both counts. Your A) guess is logical but English is my first language and I'm not aware that I'm hard of hearing. I do sing soprano though and I suppose I may have deafened myself trying to sing 'Casta Diva' or some impossible Wagner! Ann
I'm a Christian, and their music I know, is not anti-God. Greg Graffin is the only atheist (and maybe Brian Baker) in the band. Wackerman believes in God, Jay has spiritual beliefs, Brett is Agnostic, and I'm not sure about Hetson. Anyway, doesn't matter. We should all accept everyone, regardless of belief. Accpet them as who they are, and not their religion. Besides, lets all agree that BAD RELIGION ROCKS!!!!!
"MY christianity is completely individualistic to me"
If you're going to believe and accept whatever you pick and choose with your reason from a religion why not skip the dogma and just go with the reason?
There's no reason to believe a god exists aside from wishful thinking and even then it's just in hopes of giving us the illusion of solving a problem when it really doesn't.
@subliminaltikva same here, the only truth I know is the one I see and it is a mixture of love, hate, life, death and everything, so no, I do not believe in justice just actions and reactions.
I think you're misinterpreting their message. They're not anti-God or anti-religion at all. They just want people to look at things with a sense of reason instead of blind faith and ignorance.
As a Christian, I think it's great that Bad Religion is challenging concepts of God. I cringe at the way Christ often is represented these days, especially by Christians. Christianity is a fucking journey, for Christ's sake. Or am I fucking wrong?
Ann
So is the meatball monster. Invisible, intangible, and ineffable. By your logic we must be agnostic about him too. The point here is that the burden of proof is on the believer, not the skeptic. Think if things were the other way around, it would be chaos trying to disprove any and all half-assed assumptions.
@horrible667 it's a shame that not all believers think like you do.
Unfortunatly, way to often, people explain injustice and inhumanity with religion. e.g Hinduism. As long as people fight injustice and dont accept things like capitalism beacuse of religion, i respect all kinds of beliefs.
You said you were more intelligent that me, than after that you said Emo's have no rights.
If you can't see the contradiction there, you're either blind or too arrogant to know the difference.
don't you mean sense?
bad religion is ecologia
jonathan Br
You can disagree with Atheism. It's legit. I do, however, agree with you that it's akin to having doubts about the non-existence of Santa. I apply Occam's Razor and believe in a universe devoid of supernatural entities.
But since there is not proof of a deity or its 'affinity' for humans anything can work for an individual.
Well, at least I've qualified the statement! I am with you on 2) Iamkl132. I am with you on 1) to some extent, maybe a large extent, except that I'm not sure I believe in the existence of 'progress'. Evidence (my own subjective) suggests to me that anything approaching 'progress' would be towards regaining a lost 'state' and as I write, the only path I have found towards 'achieving' this an attempt at the path of Selfless Love, which is what JC lived and preached, even to his own death. Rebel!
EVERYBODY has the right to do whatever he/she pleases as long as nobody else is harmed by it. Emo's don't harm anyone just by their pure existence so they DO have a right to exist (although I don't like the fashion emo trend that's been going on very much).
You on the other hand, heavily insult the intellect of anyone watching this video, just with your presence and your name...
There is also no evidence that unicorns, flying meatball monsters and fairies don't exist... would you say you don't hold an opinion about those things too?
he looks almost exactly like agent smith O.O
a lot of Christians are hypocrites for sure, but you can't say that all of us are, after all, you haven't met us all.
Christianity is about following what Jesus taught and trying to be better than we are. key words "try" and "we" if a Christian thinks s/he is better than you then yeah, they're not following what Jesus taught.
Judging by the fact your 'name' is Annieneuf I'd go with A).
well, okay, technically you can say it, but then you're just wrong.
you're prejudging people based on bad experiences, either from you or whoever taught you to judge people.
it's the same as someone saying "i've met/known of black people who committed crimes, so it's safe to say that all black people commit crimes"
ps, Christianity isn't about being perfect, it's about realizing that we can't be.
Have I written 'I am a Christian'? I must have been drunk! It's not a very useful statement for two reasons: the question 'Are you a Christian?' is loaded with personal baggage and so would be such a bald answer! May I describe myself as a student of Love as defined by Jesus of Nazareth aka The Messiah? There is a very long list of spiritual paths I have and still do, study. I am not familiar with Graffinism, however but it would be great if it could destroy all my delusions!
@makemarker umm i think those are roadies doing what theyre paid to do haha :P
there nto anti god
not at all
what gives you that idea
have you really listened to any of there songs
The problem with this is that it is a song with a message, but I can hardly understand a single word, so in fact, as a piece of music, it fails.
being an atheist, is the same as being an aracist, it's an unnecessary term.
Its amazing how atheists can be so passionately against something that to them doesn't exist! Jesus gave me a new soul after i attmepted suicide when i took him up on an offer in the bible, i did ask for a few weeks before something happened... since i had hundreds of visions, etc. beyond WORDs.. me ..in my room! Tell me what doesn't exist? We may not, but He sure does. " How much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!" Nightly and wait, WAIT more.and see!
weak crowd