Jehovah's Witnesses ironically urged to hone critical thinking skills

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  • Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
  • (Rebuttals Sushi no. 639 - Reviewing the 2024 "Declare the Good News!" convention of Jehovah's Witnesses - Sunday) A speaker at this year's Jehovah's Witnesses convention warns believers against propaganda and encourages them to develop their critical thinking skills.
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Комментарии • 75

  • @Staff_Sgt_Dignam
    @Staff_Sgt_Dignam 2 дня назад +11

    “Use critical thinking to do exactly what we tell you to do”.

  • @martyyoung3611
    @martyyoung3611 3 дня назад +24

    My mom is always talking about being "in the truth". Whenever I contradict her "truth" and offer proof she gets angry and violent.

  • @user-vo4wc2jz8g
    @user-vo4wc2jz8g 3 дня назад +26

    "In Jehovah's organization it is not necessary to spend a lot of time and energy in research, for there are brothers in the organization who are assigned to that very thing, …"Watchtower 1967 Jun 1 p.338 🤔

  • @ms.nikola9810
    @ms.nikola9810 3 дня назад +24

    This is to make them think the Watchtower does, in fact, encourage them to think critically.

    • @Ballykeith
      @Ballykeith 3 дня назад +4

      Must be. I was waiting for the part where he says be sure not to limit your knowledge of our organisation to just what we say, but seek out material from diverse sources, including from people critical of Jehovah's Witnesses, so that you can weigh everything up for yourselves.

    • @cygnustsp
      @cygnustsp 3 дня назад +4

      There's a part in Ray Franz's book where Freddie suggests research from a Christendom guy. I can remember the push to really study and learn back in the 70s. It all started to go downhill with the Live Forever book. They briefly got some of it back in the mid 90s but by then it was too late and it was more yes/no than actual thinking. Remember when they used to use the phrase "thinking people"? Do they ever say that anymore?

    • @antonypelling9194
      @antonypelling9194 2 дня назад

      Talk about double speak .! In my experience, the ORG. Has done much
      To undermine ,”The Truth, the WHOLE truth & nothing but the truth. As
      They themselves have written, being economic with the narrative is
      Tantamount to supporting the lie. , !!

    • @jjdiambrini-palazzi
      @jjdiambrini-palazzi 2 дня назад +3

      @@Ballykeith - That'll be the day everyone leaves.

  • @haynehifanny8006
    @haynehifanny8006 3 дня назад +14

    It's bad to tell lies. It's worse not to know that JW leaders are lying! Viva! Lloyds for exposing these disgraceful Charlatans of our modern era. Great 🙏🙏👍

  • @bigboithe8th
    @bigboithe8th 2 дня назад +8

    JWs and critical thinking goes together about as well as oil and water.

  • @noonespecial5517
    @noonespecial5517 3 дня назад +19

    lol
    Imitate Jesus
    So I got super angry with someone over a serious issue and they threw in my face how I wasn’t behaving in a Christian manner. I said, uhhhh, Jesus threw over tables. Don’t tell me not to get angry over things that are proper to get angry over.

  • @Sebas-ex-witnesses
    @Sebas-ex-witnesses 3 дня назад +6

    as a non-therapist which you thankfully acknowledge. we come from an organization that assumes all kinds of authority which is unhealthy. you have meant a lot of good emotionally for many people.

  • @DanielSeeley-yt4do
    @DanielSeeley-yt4do 3 дня назад +7

    You should know the truth always that the generation of 1914 shall by no means pass away before the end of days. A lot of JWs were disfellowshipped and thrown out on the street for even questioning that teaching. That's the truth.

  • @Simpsonsboy93
    @Simpsonsboy93 2 дня назад +6

    "Let's open our bibles...that magically look like smartphones now."

  • @snowwhite2709
    @snowwhite2709 3 дня назад +9

    It's telling their followers not to do something, the exact way the GB wants their followers to be led . Kind of amusing.

  • @Argyles100
    @Argyles100 3 дня назад +13

    Assembly speakers talks reminds me of listening to Mr Rodgers Neighborhood...same tone and level of intellectual content

  • @Mary-t2p6p
    @Mary-t2p6p 3 дня назад +5

    It’s difficult to even break down the example of narcissistic circular reasoning that is happening in this jw org talk. But you waded thru it .Fine job.

    • @christophgaudlitz4418
      @christophgaudlitz4418 2 дня назад +1

      It sometimes helps to just use an example. Absurdity can be exposed by absurdity when the object is not you but “the bad guy” - Catholic fanatics in the past (we’re talking about a not-so-distant past of a few hundred years ago:)) were known for their creed “the Church of Christ cannot err, even when it errs, since it’s the Church of Christ.” Then ask: “isn’t that absurd?” The answer will surprise you - when the interlocutor still has a bit of common sense, he will agree. Then say no more as he’ll probably going to think about it for some time.

  • @scaredtruthless
    @scaredtruthless 2 дня назад +2

    I thought the same thing when I watched this, like "OK.... hone your critical thinking skills but ONLY read and study what We say". Then it's not truly critical thinking.

  • @elizabethyoung4900
    @elizabethyoung4900 3 дня назад +4

    It's wrong that the GB erase previous publications........how can people be aware of the reality, how can they make proper informed decisions😮😮😮

  • @Sebas-ex-witnesses
    @Sebas-ex-witnesses 3 дня назад +2

    Thannks ❤

  • @lori4971
    @lori4971 3 дня назад +7

    So distracted by that bald head!! It’s sooo big!!

    • @tgreen1862
      @tgreen1862 3 дня назад +2

      @lori4971, he's got that Lex Luthor vibe going!🤣🤣

    • @Antlil2023
      @Antlil2023 2 дня назад

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @LilithLiberated
    @LilithLiberated 3 дня назад +6

    I seriously wonder if this guy is trying to wake people up

  • @BigGamePlayer-hi9lu
    @BigGamePlayer-hi9lu 2 дня назад

    Transparency is the key in trusting any organisation ...

  • @spbname8121
    @spbname8121 3 дня назад +4

    I would believe him more if he wore a wig.

  • @exploatores
    @exploatores 3 дня назад +5

    If it´s a dude in a cheap suit talking about Jesus and the bible. then it´s propaganda. did I get that right :)

  • @philipatkins405
    @philipatkins405 2 дня назад +2

    These goving body helpers speak down to there audience like there children and treat them like idiots

  • @davidmay3042
    @davidmay3042 2 дня назад +1

    As it happens most JWs have a discriminatory hearing and reading reflex which automatically deflects them from anything which challenges their inbuilt beliefs. I recently spoke to an otherwise intelligent Witness pointing out that even in the Encyclopaedia Brittanica the book of Daniel is listed as a 2nd C BCE book,not the exelic book it purports to be. He shrugged it off pointing to the Watchtowers teachings. Critical thinking with strict perametors

  • @KristineHrabina
    @KristineHrabina 2 дня назад +2

    They don't THINK!!! 😂

  • @B.W-k8k
    @B.W-k8k День назад +1

    This talk isn't really about critical thinking, it's about rejecting any sort of information that conflicts with JW dogma.

  • @cygnustsp
    @cygnustsp 3 дня назад +2

    Yeah, I'm pretty happy just going with the flow of the stream. Having strong opinions these days just gets you in trouble.

    • @Plethorality
      @Plethorality День назад

      Have some anyway. And give yourself permission fir them to change. Truth can withstand questions and doubt, without shunning or punishing you.

    • @cygnustsp
      @cygnustsp День назад

      @@Plethorality what is truth?

  • @digitalwitness77
    @digitalwitness77 2 дня назад

    The KJV is quite clear on Salvation.
    And Brought them out and said, "Sirs, What must I do to be Saved?" And they said," Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be Saved"
    Acts 16:30-31kjv

  • @HL-vr1vs
    @HL-vr1vs 3 дня назад +2

    Lloyd, here is another "reluctant apostate."

  • @freethinker2964
    @freethinker2964 3 дня назад +2

    Because they know is a total bunch of crap

  • @ianpuddick
    @ianpuddick 3 дня назад +1

    TEFAL brother

  • @KingoftheNorth56
    @KingoftheNorth56 3 дня назад +1

    Yeah, Jesus did say: ‘you will know the truth’, except for one thing, this doesn’t apply to JW’s…

  • @ag49521
    @ag49521 2 дня назад

    I'm surprised they didn't cut his mic and escort him off stage.

  • @tommysmith5479
    @tommysmith5479 День назад

    That is an impressive (🤭) cranium!

  • @Cenindo
    @Cenindo 2 дня назад

    The recent (September 14, 2024) "daytext" or mini-devotional published on the Watchtower website started by quoting Eph 4: 14 ("[Beware] of the trickery of men") and went on: "Young ones, Satan will try to prevent you from making further spiritual progress. ... For example, sooner or later you will come across the God-dishonoring theory of evolution.... What your teachers say in support of evolution may seem logical and convincing... Instead of blindly accepting ideas that you hear at school as fact, carefully consider the truths found in God’s Word, the Bible and in our publications."
    So the "young ones" (as they are called in Watchtowerspeak) should apply all the critical thinking in the world to what they hear at school, and if what the teacher says sounds "logical and convincing", that is just because of Satan-inspired "trickery." It is nothing but "ideas." On the other hand, what is said in the Bible and (just as importantly) "in our publications" should be rather uncritically accepted as "truths."

  • @vestland3877
    @vestland3877 2 дня назад

    Sir Lloyd, do you have any idea or inside information of what is comming up on the Annual Year meeting in October? Do you recon they go softer/liberal or harder?

  • @eerie930
    @eerie930 2 часа назад

    The dome on this guy

  • @eerie930
    @eerie930 2 часа назад

    Like an orange on a toothpick

  • @takeitzenman7894
    @takeitzenman7894 7 часов назад

    Use critical thinking unless it contradicts with what we tell you to do. It's the same as saying that everyone has "free will" to do what you want, as long as you do what we say first. Such a joke.

  • @tiffany.rhodes
    @tiffany.rhodes День назад

    It is extremely interesting, because he is telling them to think critically, but then instructing them how and when to do so... He says to think critically about what you hear from your peers, not about what you believe as a Witness. He wants them to get that JW doctrine memorized so they can combat evil propaganda spewed by their worldly peers. lol That is extra manipulative. Then they feel like they are thinking critically. But they are only being blindly critical of other's thoughts.

  • @estherthorp1608
    @estherthorp1608 3 дня назад

    I am positive that JW is more and more like project 2025 as I read it it is very similar

  • @RikkiRotten.
    @RikkiRotten. 2 дня назад

    Begone! SATAN!😂😂

  • @drensh5665
    @drensh5665 3 дня назад +1

    Almost everyone of them is the same level of lack of insight. Plus the 👽left him on earth on purpose 😂😂😂😅😂

  • @Person-v9i
    @Person-v9i 2 дня назад

    "Hey, hey, we're the monkeys." I love this song

  • @moshimedlin-sw6ov
    @moshimedlin-sw6ov 3 дня назад +1

    Lmao 😂😂😂
    Moshi

  • @dalefurrer3486
    @dalefurrer3486 54 минуты назад

    This guy looks like a cone head from SNL of the 70's. Mepps!

  • @yolandahernandez9154
    @yolandahernandez9154 3 дня назад +1

    Yes ,! We are to listen to Christ.
    Luke 24 : 44 .
    He now said to them : “ These are my words which I
    Spoke to you while
    I was yet with you ;
    That all the things
    Written in the law of
    Moses and in the prophets and Psalms
    about me must be
    Fulfilled.
    45 . Then he opened
    Up their minds fully to grasp the meaning of the scripture.
    So today prophets, are false prophets,
    According to scripture.
    Zephaniah 2 : 10-11
    This is what they will
    have instead of their
    Pride ,
    Because they reproached and kept
    Putting on great airs against the people
    Of Yahweh, of armies.
    11. Yahweh will be fear inspiring against
    them , for he will certainly finish all the gods of the earth .
    Romans 1 : 23 .
    and turned the glory
    Of the incorruptible
    God , into something
    like the image of
    Corruptible man,
    What did Christ command,
    Ephesians 3 :6.
    Namely that people of the nations should be joint heirs and fellow members of
    the body ,
    and partakers with us of the promise in
    Union ( In ) with Christ Jesus through
    The good news .
    Yes we are all to partake at our own
    Home with there
    Family.
    It’s a spiritual thing we each have with
    Our creator.
    And if we don’t partake of the wine and bread.
    We are illegitimate
    Children.
    Hebrew 12 : 8.
    Because we are all born In corruption,
    We grow old and die. This is why all
    Are to partake
    It’s a dinner with family in remembrance.
    Christ said you certainly do have houses for eating and drinking ,
    1 Corinthians 11 : 22.
    What is the good news, it’s our former
    Prophets.
    Because God finished the prophecy, and prophecy yet to come.
    Revelation 10 : 7.

    Read. Your Bible young people.
    Stop being slaves of
    Men.
    Yes the scriptures is not riding on opinions, it’s Christ words From Yahweh,!
    Ezekiel 33 : 7.
    “ Now as regards you O Son of man
    A watchman is what
    I have made you , to
    The house of Israel,
    And of my mouth you must hear my the word , and
    give them a warning
    From me .
    And about the nations being against
    Jehovah Witnesses, !
    It’s against his people Israel .
    Psalms 83 : 4.
    They have said : “ come and let us
    Offace them from
    From being a nation ,
    That the name of
    Israel may be no
    More .
    Who’s against them read verses 5-11 .
    Yahweh has chosen
    Zion , which means
    City of David.
    1 Chronicles 11 : 5 . 7. 9.
    The true house of God is here on
    Earth .
    Jeremiah 31 : 6.
    Last sentence :
    Rise up , O man , and let us go up
    To Zion .
    To Yahweh our God .
    7.
    Read verse 7. It’s Israel in flesh and
    Christ in flesh .
    Romans 1 : 3 .
    Concerning his Son
    Who sprang from the
    Seed , of David
    According to the
    Flesh.
    ..

  • @dyplex9
    @dyplex9 2 дня назад

    Do you think they will ever stop doing door to door?