What If There Was No Police?
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Ever wondered what would happen if the police ceased to exist? Today I share my thoughts and beliefs on what the world would look like without the police to enforce laws. Would we be living in a 24/7 purge?
Would we be able to simply walk the streets safely?
Would the police even be needed? What are your opinions on this? Drop a comment below👍🏻
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Some of the people in my circle that I trust the most are in the Police Service, and I know they will give their all to help anyone in need. As someone that wears green for a living I have seen them truly go above and beyond, hurts me when I hear people say that they aren’t fit anymore. I wish everyone could have had the same exposure to the police service as I have had during my time on a joint unit with them, they are just as overwhelmed by calls as us in green, but also have mountains of repetitive paperwork to complete for each call they are linked with.
Sounds like you’ve been on secondment to the SECAMB/Kent police mental health car lol
The issue with the "nothing to hide nothing to fear" argument is that you assume the laws in the country will always be correct and just, that the system will always be some form of democracy with a baseline respect for basic liberties and rights across the board. Unfortunately some governments aren't like that, "nothing to hide nothing to fear" can just as easily be used by fascists and communists to justify their mistreatment of people and in those systems the crimes aren't just things we would reasonably consider crimes (rape, murder, theft etc.) but also things like disagreeing with the government or criticizing the party leader.
I don't resist greater surveillance based on conspiracy theories but based on the fact that I don't know who's going to inherit that system 10/ 15/ 20 years down the line.
Very very very very well said. If the government was always going to be nice and democratic then I'm all for what Ben's saying. However, history guarantees that's not the case.
Exactly. Why the f*** isn't Prince Andrew in prison. DNA doesn't matter if the system isn't equally applied.
I came here to say exactly the same thing.
Well said.
Correct. A valid point.
Every single thing you have said is exactly what I believe to be the truth of the matter. The powers that be need to listen to you and make some corrective changes. There is no way that the Police should be responsible for taking someone home because they can't get a taxi! How ridiculous! Are the taxi drivers then supposed to be arresting people? No! Totally different jobs!
It seems to me they need to stop expecting everything to be politically correct and concentrate more on allowing the Police to do their jobs as they need to. Release their hands from where they have been tied behind their backs. The reason the criminal element have no respect for the Police is because the Police have to tiptoe around while being careful not to offend anyone, no matter what they have done, while the criminals are allowed to insult, abuse and assault a police officer doing their job, Appalling.
The People that want to defund the Police dont think of these things they think no one will bother them
I had a fear of the police from childhood - my dad would become violent and beat me, and when I got old enough to fight back (aged 9-10) the police would be called and I would often be threatened with arrest. I often saw them as souless robots. However, after I began to experience difficulties with drug use (I was addicted to opiates and benzos for a number of years), the only people who treated me with any level of deceny and respect were the police. I never comitted any crimes to fund my habit, but was arrested a number of times for public order offences, usually when agitated due to withdrawal/after consuming alcohol (whilst I still lived at home). The police were the only people I found would take the time to listen, knew the real dangers of benzo withdrawal, and gave me lifts to hospital after I ran out (ambulance staff and doctor's simply dismissed me as a drug seeker), reguarly gave me lifts home, and eventually even ensured I got a safe prescription after no doctor would listen. They would often let me out of the cell to help myself to drinks from the machine or get books (perhaps they were "too soft" but I don't see think being beaten up would have helped things). Whilst I don't agree with the "war on drugs" (I don't believe it can prevent "hard" drug use or addiction - which is usually an attempt to block out psychological trauma - young people do not usually try heroin for "fun"), street addicts develop most of the health problems from impurities, with no legal protections in place to prevent this (the risk from unknown purity are instead used as futile attempt to discourage use). However I have nothing but respect and admiration for our country's police officers.
The Ambulance service are attending so many ‘Emergency’ calls, that aren’t in their scope of remit; or the public believe there entitled to.
Effecting how we are responding, people are suffering, because there is no ambulance to send.
The worst part, is how many colleagues have left the service recently, and years of experience have been lost. You also question wether to stay in the profession, or find a ‘9 to 5 job’.
My brother was really unwell recently, my mother contacted the emergency services only to then be told to get an uber ride.
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I'm sure the police aren't perfect 100% of the time but without them it'd be like The Purge movie 24/7 🙈🙈
The Police is my area have gone backwards in relation to visibility, gone back to fire brigade policing, only have the manpower to respond to incidents, very little proactive policing and a complete loss of local knowledge. Used to have a police station and 5 officers in our town but gone the way of many rural areas and closed.
Ben I understand what you're saying but even when the police catch the criminals the justice system (its not the police fault) is so corrupt and doesnt give them a strong enough sentance for the crime they've committed.
Therefore it needs reform not abolishment
The strongest survive. That's why societies where formed, laws were created and law enforcement employed.
There's always someone stronger than you but together we can live in some sort off peace...
There was an area in Seattle (Capitol Hill) that during our riots became a police free zone. It's a complicated, look up CHAZ or CHOP in Seattle, Washington; it was a mess! The media tried to make it look positive and the mayor was very supportive until it effected her lol. But it was chaos and if it were a country it would have had the highest murders per capita an Seattle is a pretty safe large city. I have a few issues with our system and a few bad apples, but getting rid of police is so stupid. I live 20 minutes from Seattle and with so many police quitting in my area, it's getting gross.
In before "wE wOuLd Be BeTtEr OfF" comments come in. As if they think humanity's default is to hold hands and skip through the flowers all peaceful like.
“bUt i dOnT hUrT pEoPle WhY wOuLd ThEy”
Spot on ben
We're dammed if we do, dammed if we don't Ben. The job isn't what it used to be, but without us, without those of us prepared to do the job, it would be all out anarchy. People don't realise just how much we see, the scenes we go to, and just how much danger we face. I'm not saying the public should inherently respect us, but when we are dealing with a job, let us be, don't pull out smart phones and bait us, don't rubber neck, it's immature and doesn't help.
I'll be glad when I'm out to be honest Ben, but I will always agree that we need a working police service.
I grew up with police coming in and out of the house and visiting their houses. They are nice people, generally and I have always trusted the police. The estates in the north in the 90s worried me, because they were essentially no-go areas, I just couldn't understand how people could live like that, it was just beyond my comprehension.
I think one of the problems today is the US policing system is, in some places, very poorly run and full of people not suitable to be police officers and this image gets shoved on the US police as a whole and to police internationally, even when they don't deserve it. Here in Germany, the police I've met, since moving here, are nice, normal people. I've never been pulled over. There have been a few cases of extreme right wingers getting into the police, but they are being thrown out, thank goodness.
Can we do without the police? No. Does the police need restructuring and cleaning up? In some places, most definitely.
Call me sad but one of the best new year I've had was me and my Mrs on our own talking and playing board games in the front lounge
Ben, you’re bang on mate! The police do a great job near me. Haven’t got time for people who are against them.
Best bit is the ones saying they don't want police are either just horrid people for the most part and or people who run to the police the 1st chance they get
Personally i have seen a large amount of dodgy things living in Glasgow and think the police do a damn fine job and its not easy nowadays when everything seems to be against them, keep up the good work Ben hope your doing well. Loving the content. 👍
Live in Glasgow too and to be honest the Police are fantastic always there when something real is happening. Shame the public don't respect them for what they do.
I think there isn't enough credit where credit is due, like the London Bridge attack where police have to run towards danger, but the police are also used as a one size fits all solution. In an ideal world I think there would be more than three emergency services including mental health specialists instead of the police having to cover everything that doesn't fit the other categories.
I live in Bradford, the area I'm in is like the wild west most days so pretty much feels like no police... Shame though... Some of these hoons need a check up from the neck up
I think that a large segment of *criminals* need the protection of the law. Without the enforcers, ordinary, decent people will be forced to band together to rid their streets of the scum. The thing stopping these people is, of course, the law.
I think everything you said is so valid. And I’ve never thought about how the police are the only force to deal with everything!
And you’re definitely right about welfare checks being a social care duty.
My only other thought is there would be a lot less crime if the laws were actually tougher in this country. For example, a case I recently read of, drunk driver, fatal hit and run of a 69 year old woman, the driver got 7 years in prison. And you know they’ll probably be out in half the time. Drunk driving is a huge problem yet the penalties don’t reflect that. Same for most crimes.
Well done for another great video Ben! Love it.
Totally agree with Ben ...the thing that does worry me is the fact this country has gone soft which probably inhibits them and cut backs Bobby's on the beat ect ...we need more not less...they have a very difficult job to do in this day and age in my opinion
Funny how "Protect your privacy with Surfshark VPN" gets followed by "So what if your DNA is in a database, you have nothing to hide right?"
To make this a serious point though: Sure I may not have anything to be found about me committing crimes because I haven't committed any, but that doesn't mean that I should hand over my privacy by default. It's justice done backwards: guilty until proven innocent. I may have nothing to hide but there's no need to know it either. Take for instance the DNA database. I have some serious concerns with that.
For one: Data security. If you want to have a database where every police officer can search in, a lot of people need to have access to this. In terms data security, the amount of people that have access to data is inversely proportional to the security of that data. It's not a question of if the DNA database will leak. It's a question of when.
And then (concern #2) what happens with that data once it's out there? I'm sure insurers will be more than interested in that. "Just make it illegal to be used then" - and how would you check? The algorithm of this health insurance company has made you an excellent offer based on a machine learning algorithm. We don't know why your insurance is 130 a month while your neighbor's is 500. Must be the algorithm, silly little thing.
Lastly, I may not have anything to hide _now_, but I may in the future. Say at some point a government gets elected that turns out to really hate people with a certain eye color (innocent example but I think you can figure out a few very, very worrying examples). Anyone with green eyes is to be incarcerated indefinitely. Oh look a database with everyone's DNA data in it. How convenient. Now, what was that gene again that coded for green eyes?
I may not have anything to hide. But that doesn't mean I shouldn't get to hide anything.
I feel sorry for the police, particularly my local police because they get called to our road every two weeks for the littlest of things (asb related). They must see our road come up on the system and think "ah for god sake, not this lot again"
I wonder if that kind of thought ever comes into every police officer's head when they're called to a certain road in their area?
Yep we do think that. There are certain streets that we go to where we're just met with abuse. And I'm just thinking "I didn't want to come here anyway".
Police are a relatively new idea. That being an organised body of people entrusted by the population to uphold the laws of the land,keep the peace, investigate crime and by their presence deter crime. Further, to detain those people that have been accused until such time as they can be brought before a court and a decision made to establish guilt or innocence based upon evidence provided.
Until then it wasn't a lawless free for all. It was the local community that policed themselves and their area. From the first villages and towns that sprung up when we stopped being nomadic tribes and settled into farming humanity learnt that you couldn't do what you wanted because others wouldn't allow it. I'm not going to write an essay on human policing throughout the ages but we have always found ways to control our own actions and to an extent that of others. What would happen if the police disappeared tomorrow? Anarchy to start with, yes. But after a while community's would band together and it would revert to communal, mob justice. Harsh, instant and unforgettable.
Until a system of policing was reestablished. So, after all that, yes Ben, you're correct. We do need the police. We've gone from small villages and towns to large urban areas where nobody knows each other. Our daily means of existence is dependent upon others producing our food and belongings from a few miles, to hundreds then thousands of miles away. Civilization has turned us into being uncivilised if we cannot get what we want or need. I accept that we need police and that yes, not all police are bad. I'd like you to address that as well.
The elephant in the room. Those Bobby's that have had a hard day and take it out on someone. The Bobby with an almost eternal chip on the shoulder that just enjoys locking people up for the pettiness of things. The traffic cop that turns a simple stop into a full blown Incident because they didn't like the attitude or how they were being talked to by the person they stopped. Or one of my personal experience. Attending to a call-out, listening to what the situation is and deciding not to get involved because, who knows. No explanation, palm it off as being a civil matter and walk away. I've nothing against you, Ben. I watch and am subscribed to your channel. I've even purchased your first book. But until you address the issue of bad policing and bad police then people won't stop having a go. Give us something. Even if it's just to say that you'd feel uncomfortable doing so or other reasons.
Take care.
I've experienced small doses of anarchy in the South Bronx during the 70's and early 80's during the heroin then crack epidemics. Cops were not getting out of their cars or at times, too close to the action without multiple backup units. So many shots fired 24 hours a day, I stopped ducking and hitting the ground till it was quiet, due to the injuries I was getting avoiding the stray bullets. The next was a series of high security prison cell blocks where you were brought in during lockdown, hundreds of convicts all screaming and threatening you all at the same time. You take it to your cell, lock up, dump some water and shampoo on the floor, sharpen up whatever you got and wait till they crack the cell doors. They come and you must answer quickly and forcefully. I don't think people understand what they're asking for. Asking a jacked up teen who was brought up on the street to talk to someone who has the power to have you locked up, good luck. They will lie, put up a struggle and try to run away. Then the family wants piles of money because this "church going, father of the year" was turning his life around.
The thing that impressed me most was Ben saying surf shark first try 😂
We know exactly what no law enforcement in a major population area is like. Downtown Seattle was that way for months. The first few months it was all love, peace, and hair grease. After that time period, there was a rash of rape, murder, and robberies. Nice for a while and then the snakes and wolves get in and then everyone is looking to be protected. So real world example.
The problem is policing the police. Kissinger stated it, "power corrupts. absolute power corrupts absolutely." When you give near unchecked power to police, as it is in many places in the US, allows for unfit people to take positions of power. They have in the past stopped citizens from voting, which is a right of citizens. They have "justiced" people for being different or protesting for their rights of citizenship. So there must be oversight and limiting power and what they are responsible for.
What's funny is that those idiots in Seattle created an ADHOC police force that didn't have any training or guidelines to perform their duties.
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The problem with a legal form of ID and DNA is it can lead to a v state controlled system. Demolition Man is a prime example of how poor a society could be with no free speech etc. That said thanks to all the Police that do such a great job
I do agree with the ID thing Ben, my only concern with it would be if its stolen and someone uses it wrongly ? i do think its something that needs to be looked into, but they need to have it safe guarded as well for the good people who dont do bad things lol if that makes sense lol the purge scares me, cant watch it to this day, cant imagine a day without the good officers and others like ambulance service and the lot, yes there are bad people but that doesnt make the whole force bad.
Without the police, we'd have one thing, and that would be anarchy.
I like the police for one reason, and that's because they keep people safe from the scumbags of society.
They don't protect the victims of domestic abuse. I am proof of that.
@@sewwoollyltd4509 They do protect the victims of violence. I am proof of that (See what I did there? It works both ways)
We need the Police full stop .
That opening 3 mins of that video is absolutely bang on, you're class mate & a great sense of humour keep up the good work team.
Surely private security would just come in like they do in other countries; people wouldn't put up with the lawlessness and overhanging safety concerns
So whoever has the most money controls everything? Wait that's pretty much what we have now anyway.
When he's describing with ID, fingerprints and DNA he it literally describing the Spanish system. Hats off to you Ben
I don’t think anyone has any idea what actually happens at night and the amount of things the police have to deal with. I bet the policies are a nightmare before you deal with the s**tangs and mrs Higgins
Mrs Miggins is back! Love these videos Ben, you look better and stronger each one you do xx
A very difficult situation for the thin blue line, which admittedly has not been helped by the austerity cuts across not only policing but also a range of other services that saw displacement of work onto an already stretched service.
I think people are too keen to call 999 and this has been very apparent during declared major incidents. I worked in the blue light family during the 7/7 attacks and my service sent resources to assist our London colleagues but the message was constantly repeated “do not phone 999 u less it is an emergency” and call volumes decreased to dramatically that some crews were doing 1/3 of their normal call volume however normal high usage returned very quickly the following day. It is a catch 22 circumstance as naturally as a responder you want to help those in need and there are a large group in society that do not want to be a nuisance. I have heard of many elderly that don’t want to hassle the Doctor or health services at the weekend so call on Monday by which time their condition has deteriorated - we do not want people to do that, no one in the emergency services want someone to avoid marking a weekend 999 call when it is an emergency risking their condition deteriorating further and we need to better support people at an earlier stage in a health problem when treatment can be less severe.
What however needs to be rolled out is better access to mental health services as with all due respect to the blue light family the patient does not need a police officer or unless injured an ambulance crew - they need a specialist mental health crisis/early intervention team to support them with the knowledge and training that will minimise the stress of the patient. If we could improve the provision of these mental health teams, increasing of provision of outpatient, inpatient and supported living facilities a lot of these patients would not be having the interaction with police or ambulance crews, not being taken to busy A&E when they need a calm safe space to decompress.
Ben, you make a couple of good points about ID and I do support the ID card system as an alternative to a passport for those that need to prove identity and nationality / eligibility for employment, to access services or provide age (such as purchasing of age restricted items).
We don’t need to pay £80+ for a passport if we are not planning on travelling when we can potentially pay £21-30 for an ID card for domestic purposes. All these passports being taken out to prove age when going out for a good night also increases the risk of loss of documents which is valid for travel - it does not fit into our wallets unlike an ID card or Driving licence so the risk of loss is higher surely an ID card is safer in this circumstances but also a way to prove you are eligible for accessing public services free of charge which visitors to the U.K. would be required to pay for such as healthcare.
There's one in a facebook group I'm in who shares the same photo on a regular basis claiming the vehicle has been used to try and steal dogs. It's always the same picture, the thefts are 100 miles apart and every share it's supposed to be the latest victim supplying the picture. The van and every other vehicle in the pic are from about 2005, the business in the background shut 10 years ago. I think she loves ringing the police just for something to do.
I have a question. Why is it someone steals a car then forces the police to chase them, breaks dozens of speed limits jumps red lights and causes chaos and yet gets a fine thats smaller than a single speeding conviction?
Fair point. But it’s not a matter for the Police. They neither make the law, nor pass sentence if you are found to have broken it. They uphold the prevailing law and give evidence if you are suspected of breaking it.
Prevention is always better than cure yes I agree these ID cards should be used it would make your job as an officer of the law much easier
I mean, in London, everything he says people would fear, they already fear... 🤣
Escape From New York- 28 Days Later-Threads LAUGH RIOT that's what would happen. A dear friend of mine served in the Duke of Wellington's and was posted to Kosovo in the early 90's. "People" in this country have no idea.
Overall good video, I enjoyed the talking points put forward! I would disagree with the idea of a centralised mandatory DNA registry only because of what happens when a database gets breached or stolen. You can't change DNA or fingerprints so when it's public, it's there forever. The reason that feels possible to me is that the firearms registration list in the UK was leaked, publishing the names and addresses of people who own guns for hunting or other purpose. That, as well as the NHS patient data hack that happened recently, a 'secure and private' system isn't entirely infallible.
It would probably be like a Wild West situation and different groups of people would probably develop their own laws eventually.
Only thing I would say is that we need a government and institutions who we trust to look after everyone including those in marginalised groups before we'd feel safe to carry ID constantly, as a trans person when this is hard to change details on it is not safe to have to carry it as unfortuantly marginalised groups are still targetted by institutions and don't feel safe being open about that.
I am so grateful for the police 🙏🇬🇧 I'm proud to say that my son's dream is to join the force and I'm so proud ❣️ Ben you are his hero 🙏 keep on smiling buddy and spreading awareness of PTSD ☺️ xx
Personally I feel that the Police started losing most of their respect from the members of the public when communities started to break down. No one can trust anyone anymore, people become suspicious of each other and the result is that everyone treats others as a criminal just because they don't like something they did or said, that includes the police.
It's like the saying goes if you act like a criminal, you get treated like a one. But if you're treated like a criminal you'll act like a criminal.
Thats what 20+ years of forced immigration with zero intention of integrating will do to a community sadly.
@@whitemoose8667yep a certain group and ethnicity of immigrants ***** , I do think they should stop this I am not going to do out or investigate for fear of being called a racist though.
I am so grateful for the Police service. Without it there would be loads of vigilante groups. I’ve also thought DNA should be taken from all newborns to go into a database for the police. Totally agree with ya Ben. 👏👏👏
"If your not a criminal and you haven't done anything wrong you shouldn't ever be afraid of a police officer, They're only there to help" So many people forget that thanks to mainstream media. What a way to end a video. That should be the headlines in the newspapers, not what we normally get
You should definitely be afraid…there are some very dodgy cops in West Yorkshire (and some very good ones too, I have to say)
And no, I’m not a criminal or done anything wrong -before you ask
I remember the miners strike during Margaret Thatchers time in office It was said by some that we were used by the government to aid their aims Others said we were to keep the peace and protect people Sometimes no matter what you do you are always the bad guy
Any how enough of all that Keep up the excellent work fella you are doing so much for bobbies who will always have the adverse affects of their time in the job
Ben... what's your thoughts on the knife crime in London and what do you think can reduce this? Longer sentences and tougher laws on 'stop and search'
We need the police, But a few have spoilt the broth as you might say. You need to vet people who work for you more to avoid the bad publicity. And punish the ones who commit crimes very heavily.
I think we need the police because I want to be safe x
In Rohingya, Northern Syria, they don't have any police, they just offer every adult the same sort of training that police officers would receive elsewhere in Syria, and in this way the whole society is low crime, because people know they could get a kicking off LITERALLY ANYBODY if they commit crime.
The bonus is the low cost of public security, and also that they are free to have a genuine form of democracy, unlike here where the police *can* be used to trample on your rights - ask a miner from the last generation, or someone that was at the 'Battle of the Beanfield'.
We managed for the first 300,000 years without any police, they're not quite as critical to society as people make out.
No disrespect to yourself or any of your former colleagues Ben! I prefer our system, I'm just pointing out that it does have its pros and cons and that there are alternatives.
Have the police ever been proven as been corrupt? That’s enough of a reason NOT to submit your credentials. I’m a hard working good member of society. And I also think Ben is a top bloke, but not everyone is like him.
good topic, Ben. You should not hate the police, if you are not doing anything Wrong!!!
We definitely need policing, it serves has a form of social stability, I'd hate to live in Gotham city,❤
There will be law enforcement in any society even if people dont call it 'police'.
First of all, fair play to the police! My main concern with this utopian world where everyone gives over thier DNA would be the miscarriage of justice that could occur due to a clerical error or system malfunction. I don’t fancy going down for a muder when in actual fact I was at home having a take away. The second would be, vulnerable individuals having to carry around a document with all this info on.
@dannyx27 |I think you've taken the metaphor of a 'take away' a little too literally.
Gonna go a bit off topic here but what would happen in YOUR personal opinion of all coppers were like Jack Reagan (The Sweeney); Burnside (The Bill) or Gene Hunt (Life On Mars and Ashes To Ashes) and all coppers were using such methods of the 70s and 80s and the women in the force were still referred to as plonks and given the WPC jobs of that era?
TBF, police forces around the world vary widely... I've come across more than one example of police forces being a major part of the problem. On the other hand, none at all won't work either, as you stated.
Ultimately, police officers are put in a position of power by necessity, which will inevitably attract people who wish to abuse that power - no selection process is ever going to catch all of those. However, once it becomes clear that one slipped the net, there need to be mechanisms in place to hold them accountable for their actions. It's when such mechanisms aren't in place or apparently not working that you're likely going to see widespread calls to abolish/defund the police. Honestly, in some parts of the world, I find it hard to entirely disagree. However, in others, it seems like a lot of these calls are just echoes through the internet from people who never actually dealt with their local police.
Another point is that almost nobody has "nothing to hide" - there's plenty of information that would be extremely embarrassing (not necessarily criminal!) if compromised and no database is perfectly secure. There are plenty of cases of government databases being breached and sensitive information being accessed improperly, sometimes even by the very people that were supposed to protect it.
You can’t make everyone happy but you can certainly try to make everyone safe
Good job Ben for standing your group I agree with all of the points made today
The police would eventually be replaced with something akin to the Mafia who you would have to pay for protection and go to with injustices and seek resolution.
I totally agree Ben when your born DNA should be taken and as for human rights I say what about the victims of crime what about there rights. I also think people that sell drugs should go to prison for live and people that kill people should get the death penalty. Keep up the good work Ben 👍
I totally agree that giving DNA at birth and finger prints being stored would be monumental in fighting crime 👍🏼
So do I. But there would always be these kind of people saying "Its Big Brother gone mad" "we have right to not be monitored like this" .But how many of the people that would say these things, would complain if a crime was committed against them and it remained unsolved because the offenders DNA, fingerprints were not recorded.
Great vid Ben ,, take no notice of bell ends .
Great video Ben 👌
No one would open a grocery shop because they would be shoplifted out of business, so communities would starve.
I think at the moment there's a lot of issues surrounding the fact that the majority of bobbies now seem to be in it for the big wage, because there's a disparity between the wages of your average job vs the police, some people don't care for the job and are just doing the job for the money, this happens in all jobs but I think it shouldn't happen in the police as much as it does. The police are required, obviously because if you all think it's bad now, you have no idea.
Great vids as always Ben, hope you're well mate
Biometric Documentations are Expensive. Not Everyone can Afford to Purchase a Passport or Drivers Licence. The Police can Take Away a Drivers Licence and Passport from an Innocent Person Who Has Been Wrongfully Accused. While Awaiting Trial For a Crime THEY DID NOT Commit. Innocent Until Proven Guilty in a Court of Law. Lots of Bent Coppers out there.
I don't disagree with u very often ben. But I couldn't disagree more with having your DNA and finger prints taken when you are younger. It's not to do with ppl being a criminal it's to do with having out own privacy and not living in a "police state" I do understand your argument. But that's the beauty of being human we have our own opinions
Being in a police state is better than a survailance state, where there is no policing only cameras and fines.
Having your fingerprints taken doesn’t make it a police state lol
I like ur videos, i like u as a person, i understand u as a copper cause i am one. I saw a video where ur colleauges said u have no MH and u putting it on. MH is a big thing which alot people dont understand, i am a tough guy but cry when my child hurts herself. Police is the one who are the lind between the good and bad . Maybe u wont see this comment but i think u are right and i see u as senior officer who is a guide. Thank you"BEN" ben was a cps high light CPS lol
You can't tell the feral members of certain communities and estates that
Steven Avery on Netflix he was set up with his blood that they had in police storage
If you were in charge of Police Reform? What would you change? Laws? Attitudes? Policing Techniques? Maybe something different. Police Training Perhaps? Unfortunately. There are Children who are Bullied, Abused. Neglected or come from an Unstable Background. When they become Adults it is Difficult for them to Function in Society. Develop Mental Haealth Issues. Often When They are Teenagers. They will Lash Out and sometimes get into Trouble with the Police. Because They Don't Want to go back Home. Only They end up Prosecuted. Get a Criminal Record Which can Then Put Them in a Vicious Circle That involves Mental Health. Criminality. Alcohol/Drug misuse and No Prospects In Life. They were Failed from the Start and the Police are still Not doing Anything Now to Correct Their Lives. It is Easier to Build Stonger Children. Than it is to Fix Brocken Adults.
Criminals crying you hurt me when you tackle then is a joke. Had a police officer come to my address for a statement where me and another guy caught an offender. Going through the statement he then asks about how I held him and did I twist his arm. Did I twist his arm, what a joke... I said not I had his sleeve cuff and that was the end of that questioning. Copper obviously didnt want me to comment on that so happy to move on with the rest of the statement.
Hi Ben could you mention your experience working special special constables
Yeah, the estates are lawless - i.e. the police are not their for those people.
Without police the country would not be lawless, but the mechanism for enforcing the law would be different.
We lived without police until about 200 years ago, and evern 100 years ago there were not many police.
If there were no police we'd adapt, we'd probably after 5 or 10 years end up with a form of police, but maybe it would take a different form.
In the interim people would band together and enforce the laws they though were important - like they did for thousands of years.
Yes some oinocent people would get caught up and punished - but that happens with proffessional police, so no change there.
As for cops who use more than minimum force - they are (or should be) treated likve criminals, because they are crimnals. They are breaking a criminal law.
There are criminals who we need protection from. The police should be tasked with stopping them. The problem is the police have also been used to pursue things that aren't crimes. Calling somebody an ethnic slur should not be met with two policeman showing up at your door.
Ultimately, without the police, we go back to what was before: vigilantes and private justice. The criminals will still get punished, but it will coarsen society.
Great video 👊🏼
I come from a different culture so my perspective is a bit different. As long as there are laws there should be police. That being said, if people want to choose via their representatives and screw over their community by disbanding their police I am all for it. Let them revel in the anarchy and chaos that will ensue. Many cities in America have done just that and many police forces have pulled back enforcing the law and many many many of my colleagues have went out on early retirement or quit all together to let their respective unsupportive jurisdictions fend for themselves. That is why we have the god given right to defend ourselves and if it takes this to make people wake up and be responsible for themselves I am all for it. But understand it will get much worse before it gets better and the blood in our streets will be unprecedented. Hang on it's gonna be rough ride.
Hi Ben, love this video! On the topic of facebook justice systems and modern day witch trials, what are your thoughts on pedophile hunters and do they cause more trouble than good? Have you ever met someone who has been villified on social media even though they were completely innocent, if you have - how did it effect this person?
it will be like living in surrey 🤣
I've always said when we are born to take fingerprints and DNA & omg the backlash I got 😆
Let have a purge weekend just so ppl know what Leo’s really do no laws 1 weekend they’d love them after that for sure
Ben is such a Sean. No wonder he was a copper and look how they've thrown him under the bus. Pathetic 😂🤣😂🤣
Right I was gonna write a huge ass paragraph but I can't be arsed so here's my two cents. Humans suck, police are the only thing (especially in countries with pathetic self defense laws like the UK) that keep us safe. Humanity will never get to a place where we don't require police, the best we can do on a large scale is to each take more responsibility in out own lives and our own safety to reduce the necessity of police. Unfortunately that is pretty much and impossibility without radical changes to the laws in a lot of countries.
I have always been a advocate for responsible civilian firearm ownership and carrying and now more so than ever (I've recently become disabled so don't realistically have any way to effectively and legally defend myself in the UK if I should ever have to again), I believe if every reasonable and responsible civilian carried a firearm along with a body camera crime would be reduced to the best we as a species could currently get.
Okay still kinda a huge ass comment but heyho
*write! Jesus Christ.
@@ZJS0113 that's voice text for you, it occasionally messes up and I don't catch it when re-reading. No need to get all offended by it mate
@@thepyromantic3468 it's abhorrent
@@ZJS0113 quhool
been watching your vids almost since you started putting these up and i just realised im not bloody subscribed. Well said with everything here. I helped a drunk man lastnight who was taken to our ambulance treatment centre after being found and transported via van by police. He then proceeds to go on about how useless the police are as a passing comment..? Like some people seem to have the memory and mental capacity of a gold fish (at a push)
Ben for P.M. !!!
Can you please react to CHICAGO PD? ♥️ I think you gonna love it! ♥️
Don't they have your DNA when your blood is taken through needles as a kid or no?
I think you should do a video with Mrs Miggins 🤣
Everyone's favourite ex copper...Ben "The Badger" Pearson 👍🇮🇪
The reason why you shouldn’t have id on you, when you get robbed and see thousands of pounds coming out tour account
For the DNA piracy if someone hacked into the database / a “ bad cop “ and your a snitch or did something they can easy find your family
It's MUCH worse than that. We imagine that our democracy will always be......BUT no. This thing called democracy is not the normal. Mostly history teaches us that TYRANNY is common. And it can and will come back. NOW your DNA is very useful to a dictator who wants to keep you in line!
police would get more respect if they did their job , i got pulled over for no reason at all and 10 seconds before i got pulled 3 people with balaclavas on a stolen motorbike ride past police did not even look at them , thought il pull this legit car over instead clowns
Removing anonymity is a very slippery slope. Ben assumes that the only people who will use that information are "good" actors. Unfortunately in the real world what is good changes like the wind. The very fact he's left the police force demonstrates he no longer has confidence in their governance. Rightly so, he's posting interesting videos on social media - but what's to say that shouldn't be used against you? This is how certain authoritarian governments work - where you get 'disappeared' for the wrong opinion, or hell, the wrong kind of person.