Man, this stuff is like nerd heaven for metalheads. Can't get enough of it. Lucas mentioned Beastmaker at the end, I actually discovered them a few months ago. Classic doom sound, definitely worth checking out.
Combining metal with this highly literate and verbose sense of speech and logic is so refreshing, magnetic, and entrancing. I cannot thank BANGER enough for their stuff
many thanks to all the mentions here for Solitude Aeturnus! Just checked out song samples and purchased their "Alone" disc after hearing just TWO tunes! Great riffs,stellar vox,the whole package!
Robert Lowe is one of the most underrated metal singers of all time. That dude's range, vibrato, and presence is off the chart. He's up there with Halford, Dickinson, Tate, Dio, and Warrell Dane in my eyes
BangerTV, really like LockHorns, but find it hard to keep track of all of the names on the board, would be really awesome to either have a quick rundown of the bands at the end or a still, or add them into the description of the clip on youtube. Keep up the good work!
Guys, you forgot COUNT RAVENs "Storm Warning" from 1990. It was released before any Electric Wizard and Cathedral record and it has Christian Linderson on vocals, who's now part of Lord Vicar and Goatess. It's an essential record and influenced lots of bands!
Embarrassing that you have a doom metal special and the expert doesn't know about Solitude Aeturnus, they are legends of doom metal. And previously not a fan of Candlemass epicus? that's criminal! haha
Ruuths Inn the guest is incompetent! He seems like a hipster doom rock dude. He is a poser! Cathedral is total doom and Solitude Aeturnus is epic as well.
Yeah this is pretty unbelievable ... I've been listening to those bands for at least thirty years and they have always been a touchstone ... hard to believe that anyone who claims to be a 'doom expert' would not know the catalogue of those two bands!
Does anyone know bands that are closer to Bell Witch? They're my entry into funeral doom and it depresses the shit out of me that more bands don't have something closer to their sound.
My favourite doom band has to be, the criminally underrated 'Horn of the Rhino'. Unfortunately they are not with us anymore. They brought the most gigantic riffs out of Spain, a country not very well known for metal. As a friend of mine once said, 'if Godzilla listened to music, this would be his band'.
Hey guys, can't you get a Mic boom and just use that as "1" mic for the room, and plug it in to the mixer so that the sound doesn't change from camera to camera (the cam mics)?
We've tried this in the past, unfortunately all our issues are software related. Programs are constantly updating and RUclips is interpreting different programs in different ways. We appreciate everyone's patience and suggestions, no one want's these issues fixed more than us.
hey guys, how come you have never covered Paradise Lost? Still going strong, they dominated the UK/ European metal scene all through the 90S.The Peaceville label produced some very unique bands.
This is about Traditional doom my son and although I love Paradise lost asking for them to be on the list shows how genre uneducated you are. that band started as Death Doom and became a rock/ gothic rock band. Neither of those categories are real doom metal. No arguments can be made.
You said you are doing traditional doom only...Electric wizard and Sleep are stoner/doom and i am not so sure about Yob...Pagan altar - Volume 1 and Solitude Aeturnus - Into the depths of sorrow should be here since both albums were relatively early and were doing something new at the time.
So, if a leaf falls into a pitcher of water, it's no longer a pitcher of water? That's not how musicology works. Electric Wizard is "Stoner". Sleep and Yob and Pagan Altar are "Doom". Can there be elements of Stoner within a Doom metal band? Yes. Can there be an element of Doom in a Stoner band? Yes.
Psalm 9 by Trouble is definitely essential, though I would argue that The Skull, their second album, is as essential, if not more as a Doom album. The whole album as a whole is incredible.
He got the bit about Demon Lung by Electric Wizard wrong as it is a bonus track from older material and thus discounted an incredibly important album because of it. Also not knowing about Solitude Aeturnus is as weak as his crappy band.
as much as I love sleep and electric wizard, I think that both are more stoner doom, because they definitely both have the blues influence, they both have the sabbath influence, but with sleep there's an element of desert rock/stoner and with electric wizard while the occult is there that blues element as well, they both have that slowness and heaviness of traditional doom, but they have the stoner and blues elements that traditional doom tends to have with less frequency. I'm not against calling them doom, but if you do, you kind of open the door for the melvins and sludge, and blackened doom, and death doom and really any band that is more doom than not, I'm perfectly fine with that as I am less a fan of traditional doom, but since the rules were drawn the way they were, I think you have to leave a lot out
I agree. I'll be turning the volume way up because I cannot hear it very well, and all of a sudden one channel becomes two and will have to lower it because it's louder than a thrash band and might break my ears as well as the speakers!
Where can I find this Witchcraft that is the giant white magic marker? Looks like a Sharpie, but must erase. Is white, as the pure driven snow, yet black as the heart of Emperor on the exterior. I must know of this phenomena...please inform.
SLEEP...for me is both Doom and Stoner. More on the doom side but there are elements of stoner in the Holy Mountain album. I also think Black Sabbath's 1st album is the first Doom album of all time.
You actually solicited an opinion from a supposed doom expert and then proceeded to ignore her suggestion!! Candlemass and Solitude Aeturnus are an essential pairing!!!
I was wondering the same. She would’ve actually been a much better co-host than Mr. “I’ve never listened to any Solitude Aeternus, & I just got into the first Candlemass right now” 🤨🙄
any death doom conversation needs to include coffinworm, there are black metal elements in their music too, but it is mostly filthy, disgusting, amazing death-doom
I wonder if Coven's "Witchcraft Destroys Minds and Reaps Souls" should have made the list. They were doing the same kind of slow, bluesy, occultish proto-metal as Sabbath, but dropped that album a year before Sabbath's self-titled!
Ghost only had one album that I would argue was metal. The rest is like satanic-themed hard rock. I love Ghost by the way, and even recently their musical experimentation has been top notch
Lucas made my heart go pitter-patter right off the bat. I love Powerviolence, so there's that. But he said the three magic words of heavy: Corrupted Grief Noothgrush Corrupted's US tour in 1997 was some of the best live music I have ever seen. I've held every heavy band to that standard ever since and they just don't reach the bar. Is there anyone who writes better heavy riffs than Gary and Russ from Noothgrush? Grief are champions. Their simplicity is wonderful. Their heaviness is mammoth. Their misanthropy is quintessential.
Everyone talks about Bell Witch doing the hour twenty minute song...but Corrupted had an album that was a single 100 minute song! While being a Japanese band using a Spanish title for it!
Malakh Tikkun I agree! He mentions Grief and Noothgrush! 2 bands that didn’t make the Sludge tree when that Natalie chick did that debate that belong on there!
The furthest I have explored Doom has been Black Sabbath, but I know Cathedral formed before My Dying Bride but I'm surprised My Dying Bride wasn't added with the album As the Flower Withers. Is it because they are more of a death doom band or 1992 was to new compared to the other bands that were discussed?
Hi Sam. My suggestion to fix your live stream audio problems is to get in touch with Joe Rogan's tech. He podcasts live flawlessly. The tech troubles that you have really put a damper on your show.
Forest Of Equilibrium is entirely essential to this list... Should have had a magnet for that to begin with. Confessor also possibly one of the most underrated bands who, despite the technicality of the drumming, kept the doom flame alive and meet the silly requirements of the genre. Divisive act, but essential for sure.
I love this show but I agree with some other people that the technical difficulties can be a bit frustrating. I just wonder how it constantly keeps happening whether it's crackling audio, clipping audio, panning issues, drop out issues, video audio sync issues. I don't know, it just confuses me. Awesome vid otherwise!
Cathedral (Mourning of a new day) Solitude Aeturnus, Anathema, My Dying Bride - this is Doom to me. The earlier bands just don't capture a depressing atmosphere, IMO. I'm loving these Banger lists though. \m/
Man, this stuff is like nerd heaven for metalheads. Can't get enough of it.
Lucas mentioned Beastmaker at the end, I actually discovered them a few months ago. Classic doom sound, definitely worth checking out.
Ikr.
Combining metal with this highly literate and verbose sense of speech and logic is so refreshing, magnetic, and entrancing. I cannot thank BANGER enough for their stuff
many thanks to all the mentions here for Solitude Aeturnus! Just checked out song samples and purchased their "Alone" disc after hearing just TWO tunes! Great riffs,stellar vox,the whole package!
Robert Lowe is one of the most underrated metal singers of all time. That dude's range, vibrato, and presence is off the chart. He's up there with Halford, Dickinson, Tate, Dio, and Warrell Dane in my eyes
BangerTV, really like LockHorns, but find it hard to keep track of all of the names on the board, would be really awesome to either have a quick rundown of the bands at the end or a still, or add them into the description of the clip on youtube. Keep up the good work!
Solitude Aeturnus is worth at least 2 records on any doom essential albuns list..
100%
Guys, you forgot COUNT RAVENs "Storm Warning" from 1990. It was released before any Electric Wizard and Cathedral record and it has Christian Linderson on vocals, who's now part of Lord Vicar and Goatess. It's an essential record and influenced lots of bands!
absolutely mate
Embarrassing that you have a doom metal special and the expert doesn't know about Solitude Aeturnus, they are legends of doom metal. And previously not a fan of Candlemass epicus? that's criminal! haha
Ruuths Inn the guest is incompetent! He seems like a hipster doom rock dude. He is a poser! Cathedral is total doom and Solitude Aeturnus is epic as well.
Where is your band? Only posers say poser. Fucking laughable.
Yeah this is pretty unbelievable ... I've been listening to those bands for at least thirty years and they have always been a touchstone ... hard to believe that anyone who claims to be a 'doom expert' would not know the catalogue of those two bands!
THERE NEEDS TO BE A FUNERAL DOOM EPISODE
Sleep - Dopesmoker is the best journey you can take in your bedroom ever
Just getting into the sub genres of metal, and your show has helped me so much. Thanks for being awesome, and keep this awesome shit coming.
You need to do a funeral doom episode. I don't think it's big enough for an essential albums episode, but it deserves an episode.
Mournful Congregation, Evoken, Funeral, Skepticism..
Awesome bands dude.
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@@nephilidaearanae3665 hell yesss
Does anyone know bands that are closer to Bell Witch? They're my entry into funeral doom and it depresses the shit out of me that more bands don't have something closer to their sound.
@@Bennick323: Ahab.
I really like Sam Dunn's interviewing style. He's my fave.
He makes me - crazy. With his weird - Shatnerian pauses. But I appreciate - his knowledge of heavy - metal.
He's cool. But I wish he wouldn't say "But I digress" in every episode.
How in the bloody hell can you host talking about essential Doom albums and not even know about Electric Wizard's Dopethrone?
SmoktimusPrime I think it's because they are talking about tradicional doom, not stoner doom
It’s stoner not doom
@@matthewbateman1017no its definitely more doomy than stoner
Sarah! Excellent to see you on Lock Horns
But unfortunate to see her pick was just forgotten about a minute later - despite it definitely being an essential!
My favourite doom band has to be, the criminally underrated 'Horn of the Rhino'. Unfortunately they are not with us anymore. They brought the most gigantic riffs out of Spain, a country not very well known for metal. As a friend of mine once said, 'if Godzilla listened to music, this would be his band'.
Yes!! Horn of the rhino kick ass
Hey guys, can't you get a Mic boom and just use that as "1" mic for the room, and plug it in to the mixer so that the sound doesn't change from camera to camera (the cam mics)?
We've tried this in the past, unfortunately all our issues are software related. Programs are constantly updating and RUclips is interpreting different programs in different ways. We appreciate everyone's patience and suggestions, no one want's these issues fixed more than us.
Banger - Hey, we may complain alot, and have strong opinions who belongs on the Family Tree's, but we keep coming back :) \m/.
hey guys, how come you have never covered Paradise Lost? Still going strong, they dominated the UK/ European metal scene all through the 90S.The Peaceville label produced some very unique bands.
This is about Traditional doom my son and although I love Paradise lost asking for them to be on the list shows how genre uneducated you are. that band started as Death Doom and became a rock/ gothic rock band. Neither of those categories are real doom metal. No arguments can be made.
North Atlantic Tattoo No need to act like a condescending prick about it though.
forest of equilibrium is straight doom
Did not expect Bell Witch to be mentioned here. Really great episode it was.
You said you are doing traditional doom only...Electric wizard and Sleep are stoner/doom and i am not so sure about Yob...Pagan altar - Volume 1 and Solitude Aeturnus - Into the depths of sorrow should be here since both albums were relatively early and were doing something new at the time.
So, if a leaf falls into a pitcher of water, it's no longer a pitcher of water? That's not how musicology works.
Electric Wizard is "Stoner". Sleep and Yob and Pagan Altar are "Doom". Can there be elements of Stoner within a Doom metal band? Yes. Can there be an element of Doom in a Stoner band? Yes.
Psalm 9 by Trouble is definitely essential, though I would argue that The Skull, their second album, is as essential, if not more as a Doom album. The whole album as a whole is incredible.
How can doom icons Candlemass and Solitude Aeturnus be a point of discussion whether they're doom or not? İ can't even ....
Lucas Gadke was one of the best guests ever. I love his nerd talk and background trivia.
He was cool. Unlike that guy who was on the Nu-metal episode, annoying he was
He got the bit about Demon Lung by Electric Wizard wrong as it is a bonus track from older material and thus discounted an incredibly important album because of it. Also not knowing about Solitude Aeturnus is as weak as his crappy band.
Church of Misery, Count Raven, Hour of 13, Goatsnake, Lord Vicar etc. ?
Stephan Fay church of misery fuck yes !
Electric Wizard over Reverend Bizzare is uncool but I dig the show!
it's not a big band but Isole is a fantastic Doom metal band that's worth checking out.
as much as I love sleep and electric wizard, I think that both are more stoner doom, because they definitely both have the blues influence, they both have the sabbath influence, but with sleep there's an element of desert rock/stoner and with electric wizard while the occult is there that blues element as well, they both have that slowness and heaviness of traditional doom, but they have the stoner and blues elements that traditional doom tends to have with less frequency. I'm not against calling them doom, but if you do, you kind of open the door for the melvins and sludge, and blackened doom, and death doom and really any band that is more doom than not, I'm perfectly fine with that as I am less a fan of traditional doom, but since the rules were drawn the way they were, I think you have to leave a lot out
Picking Saint Vitus Self Titled is the correct answer. Scott Reagers wipes the floor with Wino.
these technical difficulties are getting real old
agreed, more sound issues etc shame as the show is good otherwise
I agree. I'll be turning the volume way up because I cannot hear it very well, and all of a sudden one channel becomes two and will have to lower it because it's louder than a thrash band and might break my ears as well as the speakers!
Where can I find this Witchcraft that is the giant white magic marker? Looks like a Sharpie, but must erase. Is white, as the pure driven snow, yet black as the heart of Emperor on the exterior. I must know of this phenomena...please inform.
How was The Obsessed not mentioned once?!?!?
I always saw The Obsessed more as Stoner Metal
Not a word about Draconian...Go check em out guys,they only have 10 albums since 1994...
i actually just got my blood ceremony vinyl the day this was uploaded
Audio issues constantly annoying
where is Warning - Watching from a Distance ?!?
As a fellow Sputnikker (recognised your username), I completely agree. Waited the whole episode for it to be mentioned
Cathedral? Forest not good? Oh the sacriledge! :P
Guy was definitely not the right one for the show for more than this one reason…
SLEEP...for me is both Doom and Stoner. More on the doom side but there are elements of stoner in the Holy Mountain album.
I also think Black Sabbath's 1st album is the first Doom album of all time.
Sabbath’s debut has only one single Doom track on it.
90% of all Southern Lord records.
You actually solicited an opinion from a supposed doom expert and then proceeded to ignore her suggestion!! Candlemass and Solitude Aeturnus are an essential pairing!!!
I was wondering the same. She would’ve actually been a much better co-host than Mr. “I’ve never listened to any Solitude Aeternus, & I just got into the first Candlemass right now” 🤨🙄
My 30 seconds of glory at 26:31 hahaha Wow! Seriously that Reverend Bizarre record should be in any collection if you call yourself a ''doom fan''.
You're damn right!!! :)
They're about as heavy as you get.
YOB is my new favorite band of the moment. I had never heard of them until this airing. Super down!
November's doom..my dying bride should also be on here
They're doing traditional doom metal. Novembers Doom and My Dying Bride are Death Doom.
ik but still lol
also they should do death doom and include Rumemagick
any death doom conversation needs to include coffinworm, there are black metal elements in their music too, but it is mostly filthy, disgusting, amazing death-doom
Jackson Watkins Coffinworm has some of the most hideous (in a good way) sounding music ever. It is like aural disease.
5:58 - Ear relief....never mind.
6:52 - Right channel really wanting to come in...
Silent film about doom metal.
Great channel this. The guy from Blood Ceremony was perfect for this discussion - Cool dude
We really need a death/doom and funeral doom chart. Some of the most creative, epic metal thats ever been made..
I wonder if Coven's "Witchcraft Destroys Minds and Reaps Souls" should have made the list. They were doing the same kind of slow, bluesy, occultish proto-metal as Sabbath, but dropped that album a year before Sabbath's self-titled!
Awesome. Thank you, Sam as always. Long Live Banger TV.
Ghost only had one album that I would argue was metal. The rest is like satanic-themed hard rock. I love Ghost by the way, and even recently their musical experimentation has been top notch
"Forest of Equilibrium is not a great record."
WHUT.
Straight up lie!!! 🤯
Where is Stillborn? theirs Necrospirituals is a must in any doom collection.
32:39 - Skull in the album cover...can you spot it?
I like Blood Ceremony. The singer is a dark goddess.
Lucas made my heart go pitter-patter right off the bat. I love Powerviolence, so there's that.
But he said the three magic words of heavy:
Corrupted
Grief
Noothgrush
Corrupted's US tour in 1997 was some of the best live music I have ever seen. I've held every heavy band to that standard ever since and they just don't reach the bar.
Is there anyone who writes better heavy riffs than Gary and Russ from Noothgrush?
Grief are champions. Their simplicity is wonderful. Their heaviness is mammoth. Their misanthropy is quintessential.
Everyone talks about Bell Witch doing the hour twenty minute song...but Corrupted had an album that was a single 100 minute song! While being a Japanese band using a Spanish title for it!
Occult pysch Rock is where it’s at in 2010s! Blood Ceremony and Purson were the queens of occult music. In my generation !
Ghost is NOT doom
Opus Eponymous is more doom metal than Katatonia or Anathema
I'm suprised there was no mention of late Celtic Forst/Triptykon albums. Good show though.
It was a traditional doom top 10. I would also like to see a doom/death top 10
The best album i heard all year is a doom metal album: Khemmis- Hunted
Jamie Laszlo it's so good!
my favorite was relentless by pentagram
Lucas, sick shirt. For anyone who hasn't heard SLEEP, your doing life wrong man, check them out!
Yeeeeeesss!!! And while you're at it, give a listen to Shrinebuilder too. Super band and super record. Kinda doomy too...
CATHEDRAL, Banger tv must do a show just about them
Someone get the lady a gong!
Someone sent us a gong! But it was tiny! ha.
Sabbath,Sleep,Trouble,Cathedral,St. Vitus and probably even more essential than Black Sabbath....Nickelback!
Spiritus Mortis - The Year is One
Best Doom released in again (apart from Candlemass' The Door to Doom)
will there ever be a GOTHIC METAL episode?
Néstor González: Yes.
I hope not
Even Autopsy has alot of doom element and Slayer slows it down in seasons of the abyss ect.
powerviolence episode would be sick!
This guy needs to come back for a re-do of the sludge chart.
Malakh Tikkun I agree! He mentions Grief and Noothgrush! 2 bands that didn’t make the Sludge tree when that Natalie chick did that debate that belong on there!
what about The Obsessed ?
GOATSNAKE
hello sam!!! love your work. is there any way to watch your documentary "Satan lives" in Mexico?
why isn't trouble on this chart.. their classic lps from the 80s
Psalm 9 being one of them should be on that chart !
The furthest I have explored Doom has been Black Sabbath, but I know Cathedral formed before My Dying Bride but I'm surprised My Dying Bride wasn't added with the album As the Flower Withers. Is it because they are more of a death doom band or 1992 was to new compared to the other bands that were discussed?
Yes they’re clearly Death Doom. (I know this comment is already 4 years old LOL)
yes i agree, fix the sound so when you go to a "clip" the sound is about the same.
what do we consider uncle acid and the deadbeats?
Robert Clark amazing fits
Ryan M ckay yeah obviously but is sludge doom stoner what is it?
Stoner but doom and probably some pop rock. Like the Beatles on better drugs.
Rad
what about Sabbath's Vol 4?
Yes, get a gong !
Hi Sam. My suggestion to fix your live stream audio problems is to get in touch with Joe Rogan's tech. He podcasts live flawlessly. The tech troubles that you have really put a damper on your show.
Reupload this with stereo audio, I'll watch it then but it's giving me a headache listening on my left ear
I need that SLEEP shirt!!
Three *woofs* for Lucus!
My god, you Canadians know how to build em.
BELL WITCH is fucking badass!
Fucking yes!
And Type O's first two albums (SD&H and Bloody Kisses) are definitely doom.
But not traditional Doom
Why don't you change all the sound to mono when you edit the video?
Thanks for the video anyway
Totally in agreement with Saint Vitus
Sagh from Norway with their self titled albums great doom metal inspired by Black Sabbath 👍
Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Cathedral - The Ethereal Mirror
Confessor - Condemned
Trouble - Psalm 9
Saint Vitus - Born Too Late
Damn nice show!
Forest Of Equilibrium is entirely essential to this list... Should have had a magnet for that to begin with. Confessor also possibly one of the most underrated bands who, despite the technicality of the drumming, kept the doom flame alive and meet the silly requirements of the genre. Divisive act, but essential for sure.
Khemmis - The Hunted Album of the year
Its all about detuned guitars and a foreboding building of the evil minor scales and chord shapes.
essential album October Rust by Type O Negative
Waiting the entire show for them to get to the most obvious stuff. Sleep's Holy Mountain
I love this show but I agree with some other people that the technical difficulties can be a bit frustrating. I just wonder how it constantly keeps happening whether it's crackling audio, clipping audio, panning issues, drop out issues, video audio sync issues. I don't know, it just confuses me. Awesome vid otherwise!
Cathedral (Mourning of a new day) Solitude Aeturnus, Anathema, My Dying Bride - this is Doom to me. The earlier bands just don't capture a depressing atmosphere, IMO. I'm loving these Banger lists though. \m/
what's up with the sound? I'm Dunn.......
You really need to do this again two TWO hosts who understand doom metal ... and a decent mic, ffs
Why all the hate on Electric Fuckin Wizard!!!!
War Horse Goatsnake
no one mentioned Warning?
Audio issues constantly annoying.
Kevin McCarthy at least they're keeping this show going
Trapped Within Burning Machinery !!
Not having Candlemass as a doom band (which the dude claimed in the previous episode) made me so pissed.
error corrected.
that guy though...bell end!