The 2024 Nidecker Supermatic Snowboard Binding Review
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48, no I don’t sit down to strap-in, yes I can still easily reach my toes, yes not everyone is going to “get” (or get) this binding, but for those of us who have been waiting for something like this…well, this is finally what we’ve been waiting for. I love these things, for me it just makes for a more enjoyable day on the slopes and isn’t that what it’s about? Plus I’m a Dad of 3 young skiers who have zero patience for waiting for the old man to strap in. I think both Angry Snowboarder reviews on this have said the same thing, they aren’t for everyone but for the people they are for, they’re a great binding!
I picked these up this season for my mellow-day cruising board. Mostly curious about them and didn't think I would move away from Unions. At first I thought it was a terrible mistake as they're heavy - but after a month I now resent having to stop and strap in when not riding with them. That feeling of stomping at the top of the lift and rolling straight into the run is addictive! I like having normal boots and being able to use them as straps if in the pow, and being able to click out, punt through a flat, then stomp and ride past people re-strapping. They are a little stiff compared to my other bindings, but happy to charge at speed and throw some spins with them.
I love my union ultras, but these were great for short 1-2min runs at the small local resort. Saving about 15-30s strap in for a 1min run adds up over the course of the day/evening. They perform surprisingly well, steps in perfectly, and is comfortable when riding. The minor caveats are the the slight weight bump and trying to step-out on an uneven surface (heel side must be flat on surface to disengage the cam hooks).
I picked them up because I'm teaching my son to snowboard. Makes getting in and out allot easier when working with a really young kid.
Ok you all. 68 years young, boarding since Burton and Simms were a team. Just got home after a killer sesh at Meadows where I live. Riding my Supermatics along with a 159 Jamie Lynn. I’ve read today’s comments. Some BS for sure. These are great bindings. I don’t have to be fastest off of the lift, or the fastest down the hill. But when it comes to carving, which is what snowboarding is all about, these do extremely well for me. I like the system, way easy in and out, just a little heavier than my backups, which are Jones Meteorites. Very comfortable, I haven’t compromised anything by riding them. Granted, I’m not jumping much, but sidehits and slashes are just as fun. Almost 75 days on them counting last season. They’re sturdy, well built and not over the top price wise. Oh ya, all my homies are impressed too. That is all from Hood for today. Shred it up toads.🏂😎
I'm a 45 year old Midwest rider that chaperones ski/snowboard club. The kids want nothing to do with me (including my own) out on the hills so I ride for hours by myself. These are perfect for that. I love them.
Why are regular strap bindings not perfect for riding alone but these are? How does riding alone change the dynamic of strapping in to your bindings?
Good for you & the kids! Back in the early 90's when I was stationed in Maine volunteers (including myself) took a bus up to Sugarloaf Mtn to help/ski/ride with kids from the Special Olympics. I know it's not the same thing but I never really chapparoned. My 15 yr old daughter got a full setup this past xmas and we've only been up twice but were going again next week. Weird seeing pics of me riding at age 17 and now teaching my daughter how to ride is pretty rewarding, cheers!
@@nicholas1527 I think the key is not just riding alone, but rad dadding it in the midwest.
It doesn't take that much longer to strap in than step in, but when you are doing 2 ~ 3 minute runs, it really does add up. It is also relatively easy to step in as you get off the lift, so you can just go from the lift like a skier.
Seems like a good fit for a night of short runs where you don't want to push yourself too hard.
Agree with the review. Got mine over a year now and really like them. Im a casual rider at 47 years so start preferring comfort and dislike sitting down 😂
Didn’t like step on (burton boots don’t like my feet) and this is great. Getting out is indeed a bit counterintuitive especially since you bend forward and then have to press down and pull foot up and forward. You do get used to it though.
Like the speed and easy entry they provide. Just setup once and ready for the whole day on the mountain.
Thanks for your review, I own a pair now and I love them. I think you're right about the problem to push down to have your foot out, it's counterintuitive as we put the weight on the other foot and the other side of the body. If the lever where oriented to the other side, placed more in the middle of the binding than to the rear with the same axe it could be a really easy fix.
I'm really enjoying seeing all the posts that mention having to sit down to strap in to regular strap bindings. It's funny to see that so many people can't strap in while standing up, but they will buy a binding that requires you to stand up to get in. How do these suddenly improve one's balance while standing?
Don't disagree, but half the reason people need to sit down is cause the hill is too sloped where they are strapping in, or the board slides in deeper powder.
I got these as an upgrade for my old Burton Customs. Big step up on response feeling, and more often than not, assuming my legs aren't shot from riding all day, stepping in and out is easy. When my legs are shot, well I need to sit down anyways, and if the run is too steep to step in, I can use them just like a normal binding. Options are good.
The release mechanism is a bit weird and awkward to get used to. The push down requires some force (which is fine) but pulling up your heel is an opposite motion and feels unnatural while you are pushing down on the lever. It gets easier with practice, and usually I set my back binding once when I get to the mountain, and it's good all day. Occasionally if I get too much ice build up on the boot and binding I might have to adjust the straps, but generally not.
I rarely ever use the front binding as a step in, mostly just the rear for the chairlift and skating. They work great, and I'm happy to keep my K2 Maysis boots that feel great.
You want a laugh, go read the comments on the Clew Freedom 1.0 Review, so many people that can't even bend at the waist bitching about it.
Definitely don't forget to lock it. Didn't know I had to for the first few rides and had the ankle strap open up on features
how was it riding in the park? thinking of getting them but I also ride park and have concerns.
@@kaseychung7511 Full disclosure, I'm a beginner in the park. With that said, I think overall they don't shine in any particular area in the park but at the same time don't come off as something that's particularly lacking either.
Please validate my inability to bend down to strap in. Thank you for the review! ❤❤❤
YOU ARE VALIDATED MY CHILD!
40 year old angry dad snowboarder, got 100 days on the binding, 30 years of riding, most of the time, bc, hard charging, still some park laps on medium lines.
For everyone asking why you need this, there's an easy answer, time and body saving. If you get old, time is such a big thing, we stopped it and now it takes me under 2 seconds out of the lift and I just get in while already riding down the slope. This really adds up over the day and the season. But when you get old, your back will kill you. Even yoga won't safe your ass if you are not riding 100 plus days a season and you are a weekend warrior the biggest challenge is putting on your socks. you knuckle heads will get there, lying on the back like a freaking turtle. lower back pain is a huge problem. The binding is riding really good, not much different then any union binding. straps work great, I never had a failure. the two biggest downfalls are weight (its heavy af) and the exiting lever. its way to low and to push it down is a huge struggle. I really think of pimping it bymyself. If they can make it lighter and have a pull up bar, this is the best binding for the rider over 40 years with back pain or the weekend warriors. I never had a malfunction. I dont like the looks of it, maybe slim it down and you got the best binding for the average joe. Oh and compared to other step ins you can use every boot which is great.
I couldn't agree more. Nothing like being over 40, even in what you might believe is good shape. Running 5 miles a day. And then something so simple as dropping a pen on the ground and reaching to pick it up and your back says..." Nope! Not today! Oh and don't plan on being able to stand up straight or pull your undwear off without a struggle for at least a week"
Your body becomes your single greatest enemy.
I am 50 ,and i won't sacrifice the feeling of a great binding for maybe 30 sec faster to strap . get grip and man up ,
@@boriscima8134 The thing is, you sacrifice nothing. It's a great bindings.
@@charlesdufranc9708 maybe for you not for me
I carry a small drumstick in my pocket to help with the lever
I have a pair and dig them. Steeps, trees, moguls, groomers, and park. No issues getting in and out. It did take a few to get used to pushing down and lifting out but not a big deal. Other than that I’m off the lifts and ready to roll. Plus I got to keep my K2 Maysis boots.
how was it riding in the park? thinking of getting them but I also ride park and have concerns.
@@kaseychung7511 well my park riding my be different since I’m 40. Boxes, rails, tubes, and small and medium jumps. No issues for me.
Older rider with a disability. Gotta say I really liked the bindings except for the push down while pulling up part. The pair I had broke in under 30 days so I was able to return them. I think they are onto something but they still need a few more years. I am not an engineer but if it was up to me I would make the release lever out of metal or something stronger than plastic. Also I would make it so that the release lever locked in place when trying to pull out so you don’t have to push down with your hand while pulling up with your boot. Again not an engineer just someone who wants to see snowboarding technology keep advancing.
You break the release lever?
First video i see from you and very happy with your honesty. Did you review the Gnu Psych? They're my ride and happy w them.
Interested in this but I see where you are making compromises just to get the quick entry feature. Thanks for the content!
I will be riding Breck tomorrow for the first time this season! If you guys ever want to ride WP please let me know as I have a couple passes available!!!
Have a positive day.
Oh you guys don't completely understand the power of these bindings. This is my second year on this binding and I ride pretty fast and carve up the groomers very well on these, but the very best part of these incredible bindings is that I can put my back foot into most of the binding as I am about to disembark off the chairlift and as soon as I hit the ground I am fully secured into the binding and I can just pass everyone sitting down to put their bindings on. When I get down to the bottom, I can quickly get out of one or both bindings, walk right up to to the lift line and quickly get right back in without a wasted second. It saves me lots of time over the course of a day to get more runs in compared to everyone else. I keeps me in better shape to be continually on the move without stopping! I love these Supermatics! Just be aware that the screws that are responsible for the moving parts in this binding need to be periodically checked to see if they need tightened in the upper side stirrup area where it actually clicks in (at the end of each day) as well as the heel section where the roller is located (maybe once a week). Not a big deal, but something to be aware of.
No snowboarder who has been riding more than a few days should be sitting down to strap in. I have the supermatics and they are great at what they do, but their main advantage is not having to bend over. I'm maybe 5 seconds slower on strapping into my standard bindings vs the supermatics, so speed isn't really that much better. The dead spot he mentioned is very noticeable, also they are heavy as hell and you can really feel the difference.
I haven't noticed any significant weight issues over my old Burton strap -on bindings (you get used to it pretty quickly and they weigh only about .3lbs. more than the heavier end of the spectrum of the range of the average weight of bindings on the market which can range from 1.8lbs to 2.5lbs.) but you have to consider also the time it takes to stop, then the time it takes to strap on traditional bindings and then getting back up and pushing off to find a spot to get around others that may be congregated around you trying to strap on their own binding as well. People start to cluster up around each other and it makes getting going again sometimes more time consuming than most people realize than just getting off the chair lift and clinking in as soon as you hit the ground in the supermatics and continuing on your course with your momentum and going completely through or around everyone without skipping a beat to stop whatsoever. Once you experience this for the first time just going on your way after getting off the lift, you basically never want to look aback on having to make that stupid time wasting pit stop ever again.
Every lift you ride leads straight down hill onto a ski run with no need to push? @@johnrush7552
Brudda it takes 5 seconds to strap in and out of regular bindings 😂
If you are rocking this binding then you are more than likely getting passed by the people who took the 5 seconds to strap in. Your little head start will not stop me from snaking your attempt at a first track.
Love them, I'll never go back to ratchet...only because it fulfills my needs for my style of boarding
I’m 49 and didn’t buy Supermatics to save my back. I feel lucky I’m still in agile shape and can strap in no problem with regular bindings. However, I do love the Supermatics and disagree with this review. These do have a comfort factor for the casual rider but Im not one of them. I ride pretty aggressively, lay trenches, and do high speed butters. I ride chop and chunder, the occasional powder, groomers, steeps, glades, small drops, etc with these bindings. They do have a little bit more play than I’d like but I got accustomed to it. I ride a Superpig and a Cafe Racer and love hard charging. These bindings are not just for the casual rider. Nor are they just for older people who can’t bend down. If you’re on a big mountain, you probably don’t need these since the 10 seconds saved isn’t a big deal. But if you’re a Midwest, small hill rider, these will save you a lot of time over the course of a session and you can get a lot more laps in.
The Nidecker Kaon plus have pretty much the same straps. My trick to step into them easier so I can strap standing up, is to first put the ladders down out of the way, then come in with your boot low and sideways and "kick" the straps out of the way while you kind of jiggle into the footbed. Keeping your boot low and just side swipe it/wiggle. Sounds odd, try it, makes it easier. Works great on my pow board, which these surfy feeling straps are at home I feel.
You do realize this is a rear entry binding right? I feel like you're not even acknowledging that.
@@AngrySnowboarder Yes I know. Was just referring to when the difficulty of strapping in the standard way with these was brought up.
I just got a pair and I like them.
I’m an old fuck but I still shred.
They felt solid and responsive.
They didn’t come loose like flows do.
They felt as good as my union bindings just easier to get into .
As you get older, you learn to work smarter, not harder.
Whatever works for you is what I Say.
We will see how they work long-term.
Shred till your dead🏂❤️🤘
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Ive literally never ridden any binding other than flow, never once did i have them come loose. I did return a pair of their lower end bindings without using them (cant remember the model) the build quality didnt seem that great. The Flows Fuse and NX2 have been great for me
@@_md______ I have the same flows. Hate them.
Good luck with yours .
Gotta say, though, Nideckers Are a game changer compared to flows.,
Just my two. Cents.
Cheers!
Great video. At least this binding is light years beyond Device Step-In bindings.
Hey guys, as always, great review!
Just wondering, do you have numbers on sales of step-in / on bindings (most popular - Nidecker, Burton and Clews)?
and, are we going to see a new review for the Burton step-ons?
Fuck CLEW.
Check out K2 clickers aswell, I have Supermatics personally and love them for what I mostly ride, Resort style
@@AngrySnowboarder😂 don't let my buddy see this😂😂
Have the bindings changed since the last review? Any improvements?
I might want to try these. I have had flows in the past, but I could not really get used to them. Tried the k2 cinch bindings but hated them when the snow was slightly sticky, and you just couldn't get into the binding. Went back to normal straps and happy so far. I'm still able to bend over, and I only sit if I'm feeling lazy or my legs are tired. But I'm really interested in trying these compared to the older flows and cinch.
The first review was the first year to the public, that means more refinement year over year. That was the worst the public would see them as.
So similar to flows. Including the pushing down to lift up. Wonder if they’ll be as high maintenance as flows.
The main difference is Flows are not step in - you have to bring the highback into place after your foot is in. Supermatic is completely step in. It if course based on the Flow idea and no doubt this is why Nidecker bought Flow so they could own the patents etc.
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I have been snowboarding for 3 seasons and this season was the first time I really felt tired of sitting down and having to find a spot and pushing with one foot. Even just to sit down and strap on took too much effort and I got tired. If I ever go snowboarding again I will get the bindings for time saving and also less tiring. I´m 38 years old and not as athletic as before...
Or you could learn how to strap in standing up, it’s not that hard.
@@AngrySnowboarder No its not like you can strap in standing up every time and its still much more effort and time compared to this. Buying something that works much better is not a bad choice. this is the future of snowboarding and you see this in more brands. Its tireing to strap on and have to sit down
Been strapping in standing up every time since 1997. Kick heel edge in, build shelf in snow, put foot in back binding, bend down, strap in, ride.
@@AngrySnowboarder while you do that with much effort I will just put on and move on with new tech. I understand some people want the traditional stuff but I’m not one of them
Much effort? I'm strapped in and riding in about 20 seconds. Maybe you need to build some core strength and balance.
Great review
Nice bro in the dark real nice bro
I found on my Flows that I would occasionally get in a hurry on the flats and kick the hiback. Pretty embarrassing way to fall, kicking your own binding. 😂
I automatically push the high back down when I get out of my flows. It's muscle memory now
In the down position it sticks out behind the board, and at least for me, can get in the way of my rear foot when kicking through flats. It’s not really about muscle memory, I usually didn’t kick it, but occasionally when I was rushing I would. I’ve since switched to clickers.
Sorry, I meant push down in the direction. As if you're locking the high back again. Otherwise, I would be hitting it all the time when I Skate lol
@@adpbobcatI was doing the same thing, but it meant extra steps. With the Nidecker, are you even able to do that? Does it make it so you have to reset the binding for entry at the top of the mountain?
@Spisters if you look how the high back has to go back when you get out, it looks like you'll have to do that anyways. Albeit it's not as egregious as the flows 🤷🏻
What binding do you prefer for a beginner?
Depends.
@@AngrySnowboarder Do you expect new snowboarders to be soiling themselves often?
They look like disguised flows nx2 gts where the heel cup kinda goes up and the high back down. the strap is the same and considering these are coming from the same company…
Bro, could you please get just a little bit more angry and snarky? Please? Part of the reason I come here. TY. Sincerely, snowboarder of the internet
Seems to be a binding for those approaching 50. I'm 50,the Flux have at least another year in them...
The release lever gets stuck and makes it impossible to release your foot out the soon as it gets ice in the binding, i found myself using them as traditional bindings more then i care to admit
Are you pushing the lever past the stop bar?
You need to unweight your heel when you push the lever. That is the problem. It has nothing to do with ice build up.
@@robking4367The guy in the video is right tho , I find it a wee bit annoying pressing down as opposed to pulling up on the release lever, cuz you're pressing down and trying to lift your leg in opposite direction
@@robking4367 oddly, I find it's the opposite; been riding these for two seasons. leaning back on your heel to push down the moveable plate will make sure the lever can engage the ratchet. this was recommended to me by Nidecker too.
as for the ice, before going down every run, push the rear foot lever a few times to make sure it's clear of snow. that's basically eliminated the ice build-up issue for me.
Now do a top 5 step in binding list that doesnt include clew
There's not even 5 step in bindings worth buying
I'd put the slip on luggage straps my brother screwed through my Black Snow in the 80's as a step on that's better than Clew.
If they can resurrect Kemper and Sims brands why wouldn't they bring back Black Snow?
I thought every reviewer in this channel using goofy stance. I follow this channel because Arvan's stance is goofy 😂
Hahaha not anymore. -TC
This man is not angry. At best he is merely perturbed. #dobetter
Haha I can't be angry about a product if i thought it was good. -TC
Really thought these buildings were shit. Ideal strapping on if you're 1) in your living room or 2) on the flattest, most non slippity slip surface on the mountain. Had been looking forward to these and they lasted 2 days before i sold them. Maybe I'll check clew out burton but what I do know is, i don't be wasting time with these guys until they have another 5 years under their belt. Biggest problems faced were release and initial entry consistently jamming. I hope that if you get it, they work for you. Different strokes and all that. But for me.... Worst snowboard related purchase of the last decade, hands down.
If you thought these were bad, Clew is 10 times worse.
I came for the anger and was disappointed.
I came for the comment and was disappointed.
Bro, Step on, Flows, they're both serving this market of folks who want an easy step on, easy release binding.
I like you guys, but this was dull review.. gotta do better than that or just don’t do it…
Oh really, where's your reviews? Lets see what you can do. Clearly you're doing it so much better than us.
If you can't sit down and put on a pair of bindings you probably shouldn't be snowboarding.....59 yrs old rider
Sit down? Why the hell would you sit down?
Some people would argue that if you have to sit down to strap in after the first season then you should give it up. But I'm 54 and I'm doing inverts on my wakeboard and ride my snowboard several times a week but I wake up stiff and my back hurts. I'm not giving up anything. But if this makes it easier to do what I love then it has its place.
I can, but I choose not to.
Only girls sit down to do it.
Love the channel but this new guy kinda sucks. Did he really just do a review on as he said “ it’s own thing by itself “ , and NOT review the step in features themselves?
He broke it down just fine and talked about what needed to be talked about. You think he sucks, don’t watch. I don’t see you contributing anything here.
Why, just why do you need this. I don’t get it. Obviously for people who come from skiing and can’t bend over.
In my case I've been riding some form of step in since 1997 and I'm not a skier. I went to Supermatics for this season and loving them.
They just work.
Good for short trails. I use it primarily when riding indoors at Big Snow where it takes 30 seconds to get down
If they make something like this without compromise, why not? Key word is IF, I currently love my flow bindings, I want the carbon fiver version so it can be more responsive.
Wait till you get older/less flexible…then you’ll know 👍
@@davemitchell3998 dude I’m 45 and can still touch my toes. I’ll retire before I have to sit down to strap in. 🤣