Nidecker Supermatic Step In Binding Unboxing - The Next Big Thing?
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- Опубликовано: 12 янв 2023
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In this video I'm unboxing the Nidecker Supermatic snowboard bindings.
I definitely like that you don’t need specific boots. I’d try these over the burtons.
Maybe… I agree having to buy a specific boot isn’t ideal, but Burton’s overall system is really clean and responsive…
The flow system sucks… never can get the binding the right amount of tight while still being able to get in and out… this looks like an improvement over that… but if I can’t step in while moving like I can with step ons… then I would rather just have a nice pair of Unions or Cartels
Look up the CLEW bindings they are some mix of both and i tried all and liked the clew the most
You can use whatever boot with clews
@@goodridevibes supermatics are total different from flow, was riding on flow nx2 gt and get this supermatics,they are tight as fuck if you need
Bro…get a clew. :)
Great binding. Love how they ride and how quickly you can set off at a lift. Great in powder and on the slopes. Easy to put on. Always used the step-on but it’s nice to have the traditional way of strapping too if needed. … the envious looks of other boarders are priceless and come on top. 😂
Would love to win those bindings but is this fake/fraud?
I am riding these this year. They have been smooth sailing, even in POW. I haven't needed to use them with the traditional front entry at all. I got close, in deep powder I could not quite put enough pressure on my heal to get it to lock and I almost had to u.steap and go with the front entry, but I ended up getting it clicked in no prob. I am definitely the fastest from chair to off and riding, no sitting for me anymore.
Just got back from Tignes France, me on step on, best buddy on supermatics, nothing in them, the step on are superb, fast in and out, we boarded powder, groomers, ice, moguls....perfect. One comment my buddy made was he felt a little more flex over his previous standard burton bindings but he would soon get used to the feel. You need a week or two to get used to them, both are different to standard bindings, once you are retrained to how they are you don't notice any difference at all.
we were both wearing the same Burton boot also...my obviously the step on version.
I have used burtons step ons for last few years and got a pair of these right at start of season. I think they are fine if you really want the binding feel and mostly just freeride around the mountain. Burtons are easier to get in and out of but do feel a bit different then traditional bindings and your boots choices are limited (and boots breakdown faster since all stress is on the boot).
My issue with the nidecker is 1) heavy, if you take any jumps in them just feels heavy on feet and not so soft on the landing 2) can be annoying to get out of sometimes. IE. If you have wet heavy snow it will build up under latch and you hav to get it all off before you can get out. 3) not a lot of adjustments can be made to bindings besides straps so better work for you the way it came. Biggest tip, maybe sure you want the step up video, got to get those steps setup just right. Anyway first gen, probably make some improvements on it in next year or two. Not quite perfect but a good first start.
I have them and used them in really deep snow at Baldface and they worked great. They are a game changer.
Thanks for the review. Appealing that you can use your existing boot for these bindings. Probably my biggest rub with the Burtons is having to buy a specific boot for their step ins.
Beautiful! Love every part of it. Love that style of straps
I get to go boarding on Sunday for the first time this year and I’m super excited
let's go, enjoy it
Really wanted to give it a try since watching Malcolm Moore doing a video on this one. Looking forward to your riding review! Lots of moving parts makes me nervous. I love the weight/slimness/portability of the StepOns. Hubs and I put our boards in the same board bag when we travel and I am thinking can we do the same if I had Supermatics instead? Wanted to wait a couple of years before I get it.
I’m very curious to see how they stack up to the burtons. Love the video!
Just rode my supermatics for the first time and for the past 2 weeks, and it took a bit getting used too, but i really like them, go in the bindings before my friends even sat down to strap..
The drawback with them is the weight, if they can get the lighter they would've been perfect
Just got them. So far so good! Just never step on the levers to release yourself. Always and only use your hands (says everywhere in the box).
I’m excited for the review tomorrow! ❤️🔥
Currently rocking FLOW rear entry and I've never looked back. Never even bought strap in, only rode them for practice when I was learning before I got my own board. This will DEFINITELY be what I upgrade to, as soon as they release an XL size. I like Burton, BUT I don't want special boots.
They look very similar to the Flow bindings but the highback rolling piece is an improvement. I have the Flows and they are really great and feel like normal bindings in terms of how they keep your foot.
Thats because they're the same company
I have flows as well. I took the ankle (solid leather) strap from my flows off and they actually fit the supermatics. But i like the mesh on the supermatics better. Now I know some flow parts are interchangeable.
I've had FLOW bindings for a long time.....I prefer them over others....
I love my flows had them for 8 years and they are great
Nidecker bought Flow in 2017. You can even use the same disks between Nideckers and Flows (at least for the newer ones).
“No need for two clicks” 😂😂
Don’t work with wide boots or in Japan powder snow. Horrible feeling of riding off without knowing if fully clicked in and then unable to release due to packed snow. Returned after 1 day.
usually an ollie would work to secure it and you have to wipe the snow off before putting your boot in. I had it in pow during the storms in mammoth
I agree with the wide. I cant get it comfortable. I didnt have problems with pow tho.
Pretty cool. Almost looks like stepping into ski bindings. Currently riding nx2-tm's from nidecker's flow company. Bitter that the supermatics were announced shortly after I splurged on the flows lmao.
I was considering trying the supermatic but Iove the plain simplicity of the burton step on. Supermatic are so complex, heavy with so many moving parts. The plastic plate is required so that the boot slides in more easily.
the weight reduction of the stepons is one of my biggest reasons to get it. I love that there is no straps. I hope he tries them again and has a better experience ! his last video on them sort of put me off.
@@certifedcupcake agree. I had a hard time watching it
Burton Step-on Binding weight: 1.8 lbs
Burton Photon Step-on Boots weight: 2.5 (heavier as it needs a more robust bottom part)
Buton TOTAL: 4.3 lbs
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Nidecker Supermatic Binding weight: 2.8 lbs
Burton Photon NORMAL Boots weight: 2.1 lbs
Nidecker TOTAL: 4.9 lbs
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Edit: I've made an obvious mistake, now it seems correct, and yes, the Nidecker setup is somewhat heavier.
@Zoltan Your calculation is correct, but I don't think your source is. Snowboarding Profiles weighted Step On Photon Boots and they were just a bit heavier than average. What would be the reason for the boots to be 3x heavier?
@@lb259 Fixed, thanks for the notice.
These for me are the best step-in binding.
You gotta try Step On bro
@@gonulluomer they are trash
On paper they are great but in Real life NOT
@@Shpillah Could you elaborate on this claim?
@@Shpillahwhy ? Lots Of people say they are awesome Dude
cool stuff, I thought maybe your boot might have trouble getting in and out smoothly. I kind a have this problem sometimes with my flows, sometimes struggle to get the ratchet in place. but then find out I might not have my foot all the way in.
i have a pair of supermatics and i love them. the only drawback is the heavy weight - but it's not too bad
I ride with the Roxy rocket dash sunrise snowboard bindings 👍 though i like those too so nice pick 👍 and happy snowboarding from here in the hart of Wisconsin 😌
Would love to see you do one on clew bindings and see what you think of them
I used a demo pair last year for the season in Australia.. my only issue with the supermatics was the release lever was a bit small and ended up hyper extending my middle finger which took a few months to recover from. It might just be me... Super easy to get into and out of.. granted I'll be waiting for the next gen before I buy them. I've been riding Flow NX2s for years and these things are way more responsive and i would say even easier to get in and out of.. Only hassle was at the end of the day and getting a bit lazy i did take off a few times without the heal locking in but sorted that with making sure i stomped but before taking off.. With the 1 to 3 click system is great but alot of the time on snow you dont hear the clicking like you do at set up..
Mate owns a boardshop here and has seen the next generation ones which as he puts it are heaps sexier.. once they iron out a few things.. ps. I was using as K2 size 11 boot which is a bit on the large size for the binding and will be waiting for the next size up to get released before purchasing these.. I'll be in Canada in a weeks time and will be using them there to see how they preform again...
That my review on these hope you enjoy these.. as you get a bit older I'm all for easy.. first day out 2 mates saw me get into these and were sold on the idea instantly as I'm already off down the hill with them still strapping in..
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Could u show video of how much it will fold down for the chair lift. Thanks
I've bought Them last month to replace my old Flow binding from 2007 (only because I bought a New snowboard because my old broke 😢) and i absolutly love Them
I got them this year. They are amazing. Got them on a sale for 320€. It's so easy to step in you will never ever go back to regular bindings. My wife has the burton step ons but this is in a different league
hi. You mean the burton's are better or nidecker ? :) i still dont know which sytem chose :/
Look forward to a more detailed review and comparison video
being able to use whatever boots you like is sick but id be a little bit worried over there being more moving parts to break over the simplicity of the burton step ons, but if those straps give you that tighter strapped in feeling riding def could be worth it for some people
Look At Clew Bindings
2:36 the arrow is not for the toes, it's for the noose of the board !! If you mount correctly the disk, you could adjust the center of your feet between the edges 😏
If you set the arrow looking towards the nose, then the disk cannot with channel boards like burton.
Ok so after 3 months on these can say they need some learning curve. First, you need to adjust boots properly so they go in and out easily. Too tight it's hard to out in and out. Pushing down on the lever can sometimes be a bit of a workout so practice it a bunch of times. They sent me some Loctite to make sure the screws didn't loosen maybe an issue I haven't had yet? over solid binding but a learning curve that it comes with so don't expect its easy, but Ive herd Burton is the same as far as learning too. I like that it fits any boot so that's good. Also have heard not for everyone, especially if you like a park rider but that's what I've seen online. Have fun doing a review after you've been on them for a bit for an honest assessment.
I’ll stick with my Burton step ons. I love them.
Ya my buddy Malcolm Moore used these Never tried this brand tho I’m still using step on like them better than my Rome black label binders on my twin pig
Wish I knew about these before buying the Burton step ons to find out myself you need special boots so I bought those too. The boots hurt my feet so bad.
They're called Flow's, they've been around for 25+ years.....still the best
I use them and I LOVE them!
Also try the Flow (NX2 or Fuse) and Clew bindings
just got these, excited to finally have step-ins. These things are ideal if you put them on only on flat terrain or of you have a very narrow stance. The binding will hold you in place. But even with a week of practice, everyone in my crew was sitting strapping in, and ready to go before me. I don't recommend these to anyone.
Amazing brother
Yeah these looks awesome
I just got a binding. I'll set it up tonight. Can't wait for the slopeeeeeeeeeeeeee
who's filming all those videos ? Do we ever get to see the cameraman and does he ever get to be on the videos of snowboardprocamp ?
Do you know if Supermatics are offered with small disk?
Spent over a week on them. It felt natural, responsive and it was fun putting the bindings on while moving.
Sometimes I don't hear clicks but a quick jump/heel press will secure it easily.
Have you had any issues with snow buildup below the "caddy" ?
@@zoltanpetrik897 snow build up does exist but it doesn't impede the stepping in process. You will feel a little lump/hill underneath your foot though. Best to dust the binding prior to entry if it gets distracting.
It doesn't happen often though.
I've found the K2 CINCH bindings to be the best step in/rear entry binding.
entry !??!?!?
I agree.. other then the boots are heavy..I’m not sure why they get so much hate
A video on the Flow NXTs would be super sick 👀
It's definitely a nice system. The only downside in my experience coming from flow bindings, is that when the high back is tilted back it makes it *very easy* to catch on those lift line entry gates you need to slide through sometimes. Since your rear high back is angled forward it literally acts like a hook... If your board gets caught trying trying to get through it can be pretty embarrassing and even dangerous in the fray of getting on a lift so you have to be extra vigilant to make sure your high back is lifted up before going through a lift line if it has one of those gates.... Hopefully the Nidecker system has a bit of tension in the hinge to prevent the high back from dropping down once you put it up, especially after repeated use. The step on system doesn't have a high back that drops back, so it is better when it comes to that specific issue.
Just to make sure I understand you correctly: You recommend keeping an eye on the highback after stepping out, so that it stays upright all the time (like a normal binding would do) ?
@@zoltanpetrik897 Yup, mainly when you're getting on a lift that could have poles or other obstructions you need to slide past. Then of course you have to put the high back down again in order to step into it.
was wondering the same but after watching videos you can still push the high back forward like a regular binding and it won’t lock. Then skate off the lift as regular, pull it up and step in. But also a lot of ppl is doing this. Watch those videos
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@@eliterolo Yes I know you can push the high back back up. I'm just saying you have to remember to do that when you pull your foot out if you need to skate through some tight areas. Forgetting to do that and getting snagged trying get on a lift is not fun... Also if the mechanism gets lose after awhile the high back could start fall back down again after you push it up. At least that's the way it was on my old Flow bindings after awhile. Although these might not have that problem since the high back is lighter, but it's just something to look out for that's all.
oooh yes you definitely need to remember to put the highback up on these when going through chairlift gates, especially narrower ones. I got mine caught on one last week and ended up absolutely eating shit on the moving runway. Luckily there was no one else on the lift at the time so I had the space to flop about like an idiot to get myself up in time to get on the chair. If it had been a busy lift it would have been a serious problem for everyone trying to board the same chair. The mechanism is pretty stiff in the highback positioning and the highback is pretty light, so it will be long term use I think before it falling back on its own is a risk thankfully.
Seems like the last step on video you didn't wear it properly. Hopefully you would address that in a video or mention that in the comparison video.
Glad I wasn’t the only one having a trouble adjusting the straps for the first time, the ladder latches are insanely tight!
Also FYI, the manual says you shouldn’t step on the release levers, you can break them. I hope for Gen 2 they can figure out how to make that work 😂
The one thing I don't like about the Supermatics is the weight. It's heavier by about 300 grams per foot (600 grams total). So when you're into 180's, 360's or twisting in the air or jumping, there's some weight and a bit more effort. Not to mention hanging your foot on the chair lift, if you are at the resort the whole day, you'll feel the weight of your board a bit more coz of the added weight. Otherwise, these are fantastic because you can use any boots. I am not a fan of Burton's boots. Their out of the box feel is one of the worst IMO. Thank god they allowed/licensed Step on boot manufacturing to others like DC and Nitro (those are the only 2 besides Burton that make the Step on boot interface atm).
So after doing the review for the super Matic and the clew.... which ones would you pick overall? And would you happen to know if the 23/24 clew bindings have any new features or Changes from the 21/22 version
I've ridden Flow bindings for like 20 years and love them even though they're not perfect. Looks like Nidecker (who owns Flow) has improved upon them. I'd definitely like to try these out.
For me the best thing they have invented works wonderfully when it is squeezed between 95% to 97%, in cases that you want more security you can tighten 100% the only detail that you will have a little more difficult to enter the boot, but with a little practice you can get stuck in that pressure, Another detail found is that it tends to wear the boot in the front parts with the passage of time
I'm very interested. My only concern is more moving parts, so more chances of stuff breaking. I'm sure Nidecker will warranty it, but I want to be able to fix something quickly while on the mountain so the day isn't wasted. The repair shops at the resort don't have parts for every brand and model binding.
Look up clew bindings
I've used 4 sets of Flow binding over the span of 22 years. It was always the number 1 concern for me, never had a pair break once...
Looks good. Think I’ll stick with Flows for now or until Clew become cheaper
Kevin thanks for the review, Nidecker supermatic vs clew step in's which are better ? Bearing in mind the Nideckers are £100 more 😫😫
I've tried to get these for a bit now. Sold out everywhere... now just scalpers on Ebay selling them.
compare Supermatic vs step on convenience , which is easy to get in get out
i want to see you testing out the supermatic on normal slopes!! please!
@snowboardprocamp scam alert!
One thing my son and I have an issue with is when unstrapping one boot and moving around the back of any step-ins gets in the way. Does the back fold up so it doesn't get in the way?
Massachusetts, Michigan, and Pennsylvania are the only states (that I know of) that requires snowboarders to have a board leash at all resorts. Its dumb in my opinion but that short leash is the better option, because it's so minimal.
Idaho is another
Thats is daft. Do skiers have to have leashes on their skis that come off very easily in a crash?
Wow I live in the Poconos in Pennsylvania all my life we have a lot of resorts around here and never once was asked about a leash
@@jimmybushkill5295 it’s only ever happened to me here in Massachusetts, and most liftys don’t care. Most resorts have a box (gondola) and they are only looking to scan your lift ticket and not looking for a leash
@@cowscantfilm when a ski pops off they have a break that stops the ski from becoming a land shark.
Please report back after a powder day. Curious how the boot fits once there’s snow/ice stuck to the bottom of the boot and binding.
Interesting to see how long it's gonna take until the snowboard community understands that classic snowboard bindings are obsolete.
I’ve been riding for 39 years now and have seen the trends come and go from low highbacks, baseless, tall highbacks, and some of the first step-ins from Switch, Burton and K2 Clicker. While on a two week trip to Jackson Hole the K2 team was there during that time testing their new Clicker step-ins had to have been early ‘90’s.
I’ve never tried step-ins never liked the fact that there wasn’t any straps going over my feet, and it’s just not that big of a deal to strap in. In the early days at Baker it wasn’t uncommon to buckle in while on the chair
How much do they weight? Specifically in comparison to the Step Ons
So they're like "automatic flows" . I have giant feet, 14s and XXL hybrid flows. I'll be 40 next year and I've been looking at getting step in to save my back after a day of riding. Nice👍
Edit/ just realized you still have to bend down to release it which I do now anyway but it's actually easier with my current bc the switch is higher on the top of the highback lol oh well
HI hey when you are done testing those bindings what are you going to do with them my husband hasbeen looking for those in size large. I would be interested in buying them if possible.
I never understood the need for step in binding. It just gives off the vibe of I’m a newb
Would you be able to put these on the Burton est boards ?
Skating must be interesting with the highback tripping you constantly unless you left it out of the way...
the highback folds forward too like a normal binding
@@EyItzTiNNie but if you fold it forward it locks the binding, so you can't step in without extra steps... See the issue yet?
@@Noobochok No it doesn't, the highback has its own hinge so you can just fold/kick it forwards and fold/ kick it back when you're ready to step in again. (just bought these, can't wait to try them next week.)
@@Noobochok Eric is right, there are actually to hinges in there, so the highback can be freely folded back / forward without any real actuation of the ratchet
@@ericdrenthe my bad, didn't know about that. Still, it's an extra step compared to both step on and clew systems.
Base on this first look I feel the Clew binding system might be easier to get in and out. Look forward to your binding test video. Keep up the great work and that is some awesome snow fall in the video.
I just got some clew bindings and took them out today and it was awesome never had a problem and never really had to clear off snow… in the mid west so not really good snow but still worth it not having to bind up every time
Review comparison vet Owen Supermatic and Steep On bindings please!
you should tryout the clew bindings
Hmm wonder if brands will add brakes like skis in the next iteration. I've seen too many runaway boards
Try the Flow NX2 carbon hybrid strap please.
I had the Cinch bindings a while back and they were heavy and some boots would get stuck. My son used them and ended up ripping the heel off his boot. Boots appear to come out pretty easily. Anybody have any problems with that for these?
Are you going to review the clew bindings?
You should do the clew step on bindings 😊
I'll be testing the Clew and the Nidecker's next week at Brian Head to see which one I like better, as far as ease of use. I am not really looking for how they respond or weight, etc., just wanting something for ease of use. I also plan to get the Burton step-ons and/or K2 Clickers.
See you there!
What do you like better? Clew or Nidecker ??? If you were to ride freestyle park?
Do you know if they are coming out with an xl version?
Can you Please tell me how it works with that board (k2 Excavator)?
Nice man 🙂
Can you Please tell us more about this set? K2 Excavator with Supermatic ?
I just bought the Excavator :) and …. I’m considering Supermatic as well (having Union Falcor right now)
Can you test the clew step ins
Where did you get them I’ve been looking for them for months
This is kind of similar to the Flow system I used when starting out. It wasn't good... every time you put your legs in it would be different. And you had to tighten everything to much making it really uncomfortable for me with my unusually high instep. After that I got stiffer Burton boots with the cartel bindings... it was a revolution for me in terms of responsiveness and how well the boots fitted with the bindings. It improved my comfort level significantly even if moving from softer boots to much stiffer ones. If the system is good you don't have to tighten it like crazy to get a responsive feel. With that said I think this Supermatic system looks much better built than the Flow system used to be and it could really be much better. But to be honest I think the traditional snowboard binding system in general is quite stupid anyway... Using soft boots and choking your feet with several kinds of tightening systems is ridiculous, inefficient at performing the very thing they need to do and super annoying to mess around with in the snow. The new Burton step on system is the direction where things should be moving to. Ultimately I want a super stiff boot that is comfortable inside and binds directly to the board, like the alpine snowboard system but with a normal stance. (Free style and park riders might need the soft boot system.. but I don't, with a stiffer boot I can ride harder and longer)
"No need for two clicks one click is enough" someone has been reading the comments on the last video 😂🤙
These are competing with rear entry bindings, not the Burton step ons
They are trying to solve the same problem, why aren't they in the same competition?
Hello Kevin you can try binding CLEW step in if possible thanks.Regards Piotr, a beginner and I am looking for different solutions
I have the excavator. Yet to use it in powder but it destroys groomers such a fun board.
forget that. all step ins. i had a regular strap break once in whistler. went to a shop they had a strap to fit. threw them some cash and went on my way. i don’t want to have to buy a set of bindings when something breaks
Longevity and control?
Every time he unboxes something lately he is getting dumpon 🤣🤣🤣
Now you got to test the Clew bindings too! 👍🏼
for me clew are the best step in bindings :)
@@okno1122 Doesn't the extra permanent Clew attachment to the boot make average travelling between the slopes / hotel weird?
@@zoltanpetrik897 Hello Zoltán 🙂
Egy fél nap után már kb. észre sem veszi az ember hogy van még valami a bakancson. Arra a legjobb ha pl. csak gyorsan beszaladsz a hüttébe pössenteni, továbbá természetesen a beülős lifteknél… a síelős haveroknak így már nem kell várni rám 😀
Betonon inkább ne használja az ember, mert az a piros gumicsík gyorsan lekophat. Ha meg gondolába száll az ember úgyis teljesen le- meg felcsatol, úgy mint a síelők.
Using this binding for 1 month , only issue- you need a time to train you leg to insert in this bindings , still cant do this as fast as on video
Just check out the clew bindings
Are you using them currently?
These are almost exactly like the Burton step-ons except you can use your own boots and not worry about them coming off. I would definitely try these over the step-ons.
Did gou have Step Ons coming off?