The electric boating industry should get together with the Caravan/Camping industry and develop a standard to deliver energy from the boat/caravan into the car so the boat/caravan battery can act as a secondary battery and extend the range while trailering. Because that’s what it will take to keep both alive, but especially caravans while we’re transitioning to EVs Because even as an EV-Enthusiast, I would still rent a combustion car to tow a caravan down to Italy… cause I ain’t stopping every 150km to unhitch the trailer/caravan to charge
Just an input for you Björn, both combustion engine and electric boats (around this size) has crusing speed at around 20 knots or 5 knots, so it is not so unusual that it consume the same amount at higher speed. This is where the boat is most efficient. Because between 8-15 knots (depending on boat size) the boat is starting to planing, and uses way more fuel/nm. Ex our boat (150hp) is running 5knots at around 0,9l/nm and around 1l/nm at 18-25 knots.. So it would be more interesting to know the different in consumption when the fan is off/on in 20 knot cruising speed.
Back when hydrofoils were the cool thing in the late 60s early 70s someone would have thought of this. Now I wish someone would make a lightweight metal air battery that could be swapped or recharged quickly.
@@courcheval Generally, surface effect ships are less weight sensitive than hydrofoils. That means we can carry more batteries and travel approximately the same distance in 20 knots.
For the same size, weight and powerlevel though? I think this is slightly larger and much heavier vs the candela. What's interesting is ice boats in the candela size and cruising speeds can use 7-10kwh per mile vs just 1kwh per mile. Which matches with candelas claims of about 1/10th the cost to cover the same distance as a similar marine diesel boat costs. 😎
i got to about the same figure, roughly 0.5km/kwh. That being said though, i looked up consumption on fossil motors, and at 10knots, its about 1 liter per km! Significantly more at higher speeds (for V hulls). So i mean consumption on boats is just ridiculously high.
@@youtubebob123 Not surprising, with cars you have to deal with air and road friction (small contact area). With boats it's air and water, with the contact area with water being very large.
depends on size and purpose of course. I used to be more on sailingyachts and this is of course not an extended trip boat with no cabin. Maybe I am being too harsh.I think if its a proper cruiser with a small cabin and a place to lie down/rest then Id expect 120 - 150nm minimum. I'd personally be more interested in boats which are solar powered with a much smaller battery. @pascaltechnologies
Wow that look like a ruff ride on flat to light chop water. You would be better off moving to Catamaran hull. No need for the fan in the front let the Cat design due its job funneling air under the boat to raise the boat out of the water.
That's how every tech starts off smh. An apple original computer from the 1980s in today's dollars would be almost 28k for comparison. Thanks to economies of scale and competition an equivelant premium desktop TODAY is about a grand. 😀
Thats what "larger" (not that this is very big but, in comparison to a row boat) boats cost sometimes. Considering the EV drivetrain, its about the same ratio as a normal ICE car vs an EV.
the cells themselves are the same, but at pack level the cost is 4-5X car batteries per kWh. Once economy of scale and marine standards are more developed the difference will hopefully reduce fast.
Nice idea. Almost like a hovercraft, but with better maneuverability since we are not completely out of water.
*grabbing popcorn and waiting for the livestream 1000km challenge
Could take quite some time given the Ripple boat has a range of 45 nautical miles (about 83km)
solid staye bates 49 nm too 50 nm rangfe
Very elegant piece of engineering.
Haha gotta love a heavy norwegian accent. I love my Norwegian brothers and their complete joke of a tone in their language
Very interesting video. Never thought that something like this is possible.
The electric boating industry should get together with the Caravan/Camping industry and develop a standard to deliver energy from the boat/caravan into the car so the boat/caravan battery can act as a secondary battery and extend the range while trailering.
Because that’s what it will take to keep both alive, but especially caravans while we’re transitioning to EVs
Because even as an EV-Enthusiast, I would still rent a combustion car to tow a caravan down to Italy… cause I ain’t stopping every 150km to unhitch the trailer/caravan to charge
wrong
All future boats need this
Just an input for you Björn, both combustion engine and electric boats (around this size) has crusing speed at around 20 knots or 5 knots, so it is not so unusual that it consume the same amount at higher speed. This is where the boat is most efficient. Because between 8-15 knots (depending on boat size) the boat is starting to planing, and uses way more fuel/nm. Ex our boat (150hp) is running 5knots at around 0,9l/nm and around 1l/nm at 18-25 knots.. So it would be more interesting to know the different in consumption when the fan is off/on in 20 knot cruising speed.
Back when hydrofoils were the cool thing in the late 60s early 70s someone would have thought of this. Now I wish someone would make a lightweight metal air battery that could be swapped or recharged quickly.
WOW 126 kWh. This is a floating battery
Wow. This is definately a great idea! 👍
their consumption is more than 3 times the consumption of the Candela you showed last time. It s a huge difference!
However this technology, i believe, is more versatile than the Candela
@@verygoodbrother What do you mean by "versatile". What can it do that the Candela couldnt?
@@courcheval Generally, surface effect ships are less weight sensitive than hydrofoils. That means we can carry more batteries and travel approximately the same distance in 20 knots.
@@pascaltechnologies so the cost advantage goes to foiling since it needs 3 times less batteries for the same distance at the same speed, doesnt it?
For the same size, weight and powerlevel though? I think this is slightly larger and much heavier vs the candela.
What's interesting is ice boats in the candela size and cruising speeds can use 7-10kwh per mile vs just 1kwh per mile.
Which matches with candelas claims of about 1/10th the cost to cover the same distance as a similar marine diesel boat costs. 😎
Would be good for fishing. Nice and quiet so it wouldn’t scare the fish away.
Very clever idea
cool video. Here in Lund Sweden they have changed most city busses to full electric ones. I would like to know more about them maybe worth a video? :D
Great idea 👍
Buy eltric bus
Brilliant idea 👍👍
For the same boat, electric vs this air cushion, the range iincreased by how much? What constant speed produces what range on a given boat?
Amazing design
Sounds like a good idea!!
Is my math right that consumption is in the ball park of ~2000 wh per km?
i got to about the same figure, roughly 0.5km/kwh. That being said though, i looked up consumption on fossil motors, and at 10knots, its about 1 liter per km! Significantly more at higher speeds (for V hulls). So i mean consumption on boats is just ridiculously high.
Yes about that. Which oddly is very efficient for boats.
So what does long range mean in this context? - 50km?
@@youtubebob123 Not surprising, with cars you have to deal with air and road friction (small contact area). With boats it's air and water, with the contact area with water being very large.
@@DigiDriftZone 50-70km, something like that
as a man you just gotta love boats
Nice and quiet compared to liquid fuelled craft.
Very interesting video!
3kwh/nm is quite a bit. 40nm isnt particularly far. Though presumbly it gets more range at slower speeds...
Interesting comment, what would be your expectation for an electric boat?
depends on size and purpose of course. I used to be more on sailingyachts and this is of course not an extended trip boat with no cabin. Maybe I am being too harsh.I think if its a proper cruiser with a small cabin and a place to lie down/rest then Id expect 120 - 150nm minimum. I'd personally be more interested in boats which are solar powered with a much smaller battery. @pascaltechnologies
It's half to a third of the cost for a similar marine diesel ice boats consumption and the "fuel" for it is much cheaper to though.
im sure the arguments for it are similar to EVs vs gas cars@@4literv6
1990 top 2000 solar jrrc boat 117 NM range 135 mile rsnge
Wow that look like a ruff ride on flat to light chop water. You would be better off moving to Catamaran hull. No need for the fan in the front let the Cat design due its job funneling air under the boat to raise the boat out of the water.
Do you have a plan to retest an iX xDrive 50 during the summer?
No
Buy it
Buy it
Banana box test?
We forgot! Coming in the next video :)
Still like 10x power usage of a road vehicle on wheels, no?
So when is the 1000 km test 😂😂
E foil is the only way for boats,
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So, it became a catamaran?
Like a good mullet! V-hull in the front, catamaran in the back.
Consumption of those boats are disgusting.
3kwh for 1.85km!
Consumption for fossil boats are even more disgusting...
Wrobg
Wow.. 300.000 euros...
Its a nice boat but a toy for a very few people at that price..
We totally agree, but no one would be happier if marine grade batteries would reach cost parity with car batteries than us!
That's how every tech starts off smh. An apple original computer from the 1980s in today's dollars would be almost 28k for comparison.
Thanks to economies of scale and competition an equivelant premium desktop TODAY is about a grand. 😀
Thats what "larger" (not that this is very big but, in comparison to a row boat) boats cost sometimes. Considering the EV drivetrain, its about the same ratio as a normal ICE car vs an EV.
@@pascaltechnologies how much more per kwh are marine grade cells vs automotive grade?
the cells themselves are the same, but at pack level the cost is 4-5X car batteries per kWh. Once economy of scale and marine standards are more developed the difference will hopefully reduce fast.
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