Home Made Wings | Australian Military Aircraft Manufacturing
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- In this documentary we cover the history of Australian military aircraft manufacturing as described by Michael Nelmes from his August 2023 article in Wings Magazine.
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CONTENT
00:00 Introduction
00:59 Early Days
02:16 Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation
12:13 Keith Meggs
16:12 Jet Age
18:45 de Havilland Aircraft Company
20:38 Department of Aircraft Production
23:23 Government Aircraft Factories
27:37 Ron Haack
30:05 Aerospace Technologies of Australia (Boeing Australia)
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A fantastic video of the Australian Aviation and manufacturing industry! We should be making complete aircraft and drones!
Well that was way more interesting than I was expecting it to be. Well done AMAH!
A knowledgeable engineer once said to me "Before the war there was nothing we could do in Australia. After the war there was nothing we couldn't do." We're gradually working our way back towards the former situation.
CORRECT.
An absolute tragedy, as future enslaved Australians will lament.
@@aeroearthsometimes I think our biggest enemy is our own damn government....
Rapidly going backwards. The loss of the car industry was criminal,, and blame both parties for that. These days we make little and are rapidly losing even the expertise to manufacture much at all.
Because of greed
My father was in charge of a team making Avro Ansons during the war, in Parafield, South Australia.
At the age of 15!
That is amazing
Remember the CT4 was a beefed up version of the Victa Aero Tourer, both of which I have had the pleasure of flying.
One more comment. An important and enjoyable documentary on our aviation history. Thank you.
As an Australian myself I very proud that we were able to make good planes some better then original, Dispite the fact we only a small population we were able to do so well within short time.
Man that CAC factory newsreel was great, quality footage.
An amazing history I had before knew nothing of. Thankyou.
A great article which told me far more than I already knew about the Australian, military aircraft industry. Enough information to make me even more proud to be an Australian.
Great doco!! My old man worked at GAF and ASTA (then CRC (Composite research)) during the Hornet manufacture for over 40 years. He has some stories. I remember walking through an Avalon hanger were they would complete the F/A-18A assemblies. Crazy to see as a kid.
He and his team actually refined the manufacturing process of molding the canopy, apparently during AUS/USA cross over training the US pilots were blown away with the clear visibility out of AUS manufactured canopys. AUS hornet parts were in high demand during the gulf war as our tolerances were higher which means faster fitting in war time.
I have a ton of pics..... I'd be happy to share with this channel.
Maybe we can do a short story with your pics? Email me at matt@amaha.au
@@raafdocumentaries Thanks for the reply.
I'll def get back to you
Yes well done I am quite sure that our Hornets were better built
Thank you . I only had bits and pieces of the story .A Great overview. I learnt a lot .
In your video introduction you show a B-24..I presume that from the men's uniforms Australian. My grandfather flew as a B-24 crew member out of long field near Fenton. He was 5th AAF 380th BG 531st BG. They were on longest bombing strikes of war up to that point. Grandfather was a veteran of the 1st strike on Bailikpan. Could you please 🙏 do a video about them? THE POLISTI OF THE JAPANESE EMPIRE is how my gandpa described it. Thanks much,John C.
Very enjoyable to watch. Thanks!!!
It was great to see how far we came and how much we acomplished in such a short time.
It is very sobering to see how far we've gone backwards...
Because of greed
The Moorabbin Air Museum examples of most of the aircraft featured in this video, either, on display, under restoration, or in storage for future restoration. From CAC, we have a Wirraway, Wackett, Boomerang, Mustang, Sabre, and Wackett. From DAP/GAF, we have a Beaufort, Beaufighter, Lincoln (An English-built example), Canberra, Jindivik,. Mirage, and Nomad. From de Havilland, we have a Tiger Moth and from New Zealand, we have a CT-4 Airtrainer.
Been meaning to visit, some good and very rare stuff.
Thank you.
Loved the video. A good overview.
I read that immediatly after the war Australia had the worlds third largest air force
Great video. Well done.
Go Australia! Good on you lads and lasses! You did yourselves and the commonwealth proud in your aircraft industry and its production during and after World War Two.
It has always been a source of annoyance for me that not one Lincoln bomber was kept for a museum. As the largest aircraft ever produced in this country at least one should be in a museum. When I joined the RAAF in 1961 there was at least one Lincoln at RAAF Base Wagga. Likewise with the 700 Beauforts and 300 Beaufighters - two of the most important wartime aircraft produced for the RAAF - seems like none were kept for history.
Just like the pommies, they had to drag a Wellington out of Loch Ness to restore to make two complete aircraft out of the 11,000 made. We are lucky Vickers decided to buy one back from the MoD before it was scrapped, otherwise that Loch Ness plane would be the only one extant, its delivery was the last flight of a Wellington.
Only one Tiffy exists and that is because it was sent to the USA for testing during the war, otherwise there would be none. There are many types of British aircraft used during the war that are extinct, not even substantial bits. Rolls-Royce scraped all their experimental engines after the war. As the British aircraft industry did all their mergers, they just threw out so much stuff, even the document archives were discarded.
Fortunately, the Americans are far better at preserving their military history.
Such a shame.
I loved the Lincoln as a teenager in the 50s.
My guy would agree with you 100%...and I certainly can't disagree with you.
@@Changelingheart in some ways i agree. and some ways i shrug and... so what? its all irrelevant in a millenium... aeon...
its sad, to see the old stuff left abandoned, unwanted. yet unobtainable behind fences.
i know of at least a hundred excavators and bulldozers, that sort of thing, wasting away under vines, rusting rams, havent moved in decades... yet you cant seem to just grab one and give it a good home.
and then when you do... go to your old mates... all these things...rotting away, too much stuff, never had the time. go home. see the same. know that one day, the inevitable will happen, and all those bits of junk i cherish and cant bear to part with will be thrown in a bin as most people just see JUNK. they dont see a 1932 flypress made in mascot, they dont see the howard terrier from northmead thats 80 years old and runs fine, they dont see the tube radio with the rewound OPTs and the rolls of copper wire and the NOS in boxes scattered around. they just see junk, that has to be sifted through... and we all have our own junk to sift through... never ending...
they opened up a shed around here a few years back... the big score of spitfires. theyre hiding around but... where? who? and then... they wont part. then they die. then the kids sell it for scrap.
had a sachs km48, old vintage rotary. completely junked. scrapped a few bits. keep the rotor and housing. guy was like "had a complete one in here the other week, sold it in ten minutes for $500"...
the thing about this i find the most painful, was the line i just heard as i type. ironic... "tireless australian workmen..."
all the machine tools? what about THEM? gone.
like going to eveleigh. breaks my heart. walk into one building, big fat machine there in the foyer.... no plaque. thats because none of the yuppies would have a freaking CLUE what a "gleasson bevel gear generator" IS.
sitting there, unloved, next to the vertical turret mill labelled as a lathe...
damn i wanna make some bevel gears... think theyd let me do it in the middle of the cafe? lol... (yeah "kachoonk" just gimme "kachoonk" a latte with "kachoonk" rust dust and "kachoonk" some iron filings, "kachoonk" thanks...)
it hurts to see the old australia i only experienced the tail end of. when we had industry. made things. had some purpose. hadnt been corrupted and divided and fed sugar coated BS.
what was it all for? so sad to see these guys and the dreams of a future they had, what it actually became today... what was the fight for? so we can enjoy the "freedom" of throwing two coins in the air on ONE day of the year only? doesnt that actually seem hypocritical? that two-up is BANNED in a "free society"? was that what my grandfather and father fought for? that banning things is somehow called freedom? cus we sure seem to like banning things in this country now! why am i ousted as being unpatriotic or unaustralian for feeling like this?
havent seen anything of this country to be proud of since before i was born, honestly. just the vestiges of a former glory being held up as some sot of symbol, like parading around a decaying corpse... we starved the bitch in her prime, bled her dry, rode her arse, and preserved her for all to see!
do they still sing the national anthem at primary school? both verses?
i wonder how many of them can even point out the radiant southern cross...
wow. this ended up being longer than i thought...
I think that there is a Beaufighter at the Moorabbin Air Museum, Moorabbin, South East Melbourne.
Mark from Melbourne Australia
Mention of the Kelly and Lewis built Renault V8 would have been worthy of a mention too. Good video
Fabulous effort. Great video! Thanks! 🇦🇺
Excellent.....simply excellent.
Les Griffiths
Bravo...........wow......great they vedeo that stuff.......alwise impressed with airplane and engines......Hats off.......cheers
Well done. A well-told story of the Australian endeavours to create a viable aircraft industry which sadly did not develop owing to a number of factors like lack of domestic demand, capital and government will.
Thanks for the plug for Wings Magazine, whose Managing Editor, Ron Haack, appears relating his test pilot experience at the end of the video.
If it didn't develop, then how did we build our own F/A-18's
Really good doco.
Back in '91 i got to work at Hawker - Siddley House at Ludgate Circus in London. The building was being converted to an archive for the court's behind, i remember having access to the original drawings for the hurricane and other hawker aircraft......im a draftsman, this was the age of manual drafting crossing over to CAD and having these original drawings was far more exciting than my own drawings of sewerage and water services. Nearby there was a Wolff Blass wine "Emporium", i converted so many people to Australian Shiraz i should have been given shares. Back then in '91 an excellent Shiraz was the incredible price of £15......a bottle of Dewar's "white label" or a bottle of "Black Bush" was £11-£15, so it was expensive Wine, but there were other Australian Wine's and Wine lover's could cross the continent from the Margaret River to The Mc Laren Vale to The Hunter Valley. Good Day's, Aussie's, Kiwi's, Scot's and Irish all living and working/living/partying together in Old London Town together. Hawker - Siddeley House became the Archive for the?......."The Hanging Courts"!, Lol, No more hanging but more than a few traitors. That was "The Old Bailey" just up Ludgate Hill.
Good video, and it's very good to see the roles of Essington-Lewis and Wackett given the prominence they deserve. It's astonishing to consider that from the low base of 1935, by the end of WWII the RAAF was the fourth largest airforce in the world. On a slightly snarky note, I don't think much of your last sentence. I reckon the old workers would wonder where our aero industry has gone. The decline has been so rapid: well into the 2000s, Qantas in Brisvegas was doing most of the maintenance work for airlines in the Pacific. Now they all go to Singapore.
@Splattle101 I hope that you are not questioning Alan Joyce's leadership of Qantas 🤨/😁
@@rsfaeges5298 To be honest, my criticism is of successive Australian governments since the 1980s behaving as if the 1930s never happened. The Anglophile Australian governments of the 1930s crippled our national defense and recognized no independent Australian interests outside the Empire. Since then we've had two brief periods where we focused on continental defense (1942-52 and 1987-2000). At all other times we've systematically humped the leg of our great and powerful friends, often humping air while waiting for the leg to turn up. The last hilarious straw was Hocky daring the auto industry to pack up. Which they did. 🙄 National interest? Wassat?
@@Splattle101 don't worry! If it all hits the fan America and Britain will save us! Maybe.. hopefully.. possibly...
@@Splattle101 The problem is that Western countries cannot compete in the world market by manufacturing goods (like cars) at home. US carmakers are sending their plants south to Mexico. Most of the imported cars we drive in Oz (e.g. Toyotas - not made in Japan anymore) are made in SE Asia - by cheap labor and virtual additional subsidy by massive tax breaks and other incentives. All of the former "Australian" carmakers only remained here so long as the taxpayers subsidised their operations. When that stopped, they left. ALSO (and we can't evade this) Oz car workers were slow, rough and expensive. The recall rate of the last Holdens was appalling. Oh, and check out the COLLINS class submarines we built in SA. They spend more time in "refit" than on operations, have massive problems and now we reckon the same people who "couldn't build a canoe" are going to knock out nukes! Christ only knows what they will end up costing us.
@@andywilson2406 So much to talk about on this topic! On the Oz based car manufacturers needing to be subsidized: the subsidy (eg $150 m per annum for Holden) allowed the companies to maintain large skilled workforces. For Holden at its peak that was more than 20,000 workers. If you multiply out average weekly earnings - and these people were earning more than AWE - that $150 m enable an industry that paid >$1.5 billion in wages. More like $2 billion. So it was a good economic multiplier, which is why most governments kept it going until 2014. In addition, there's a national interest in having a large industrial base in light engineering. That's why Australia subsidised GM Holden in the late 40s.
Perhaps in the future. you could cover how remarkable 'Point Cook' was in the scheme of things. Significantly, as either the first military aerodrome, or the second, following the establishment of the Royal Flying Corp in the UK
Where i live in Laverton Victoria and all of the street names are dedicated to our pilots/designers etc, in fact, Wacket street is simply a few hundred metres from where I sit, and several of the police airwing are stationed there. It such a pity that our children and grandchildren will never know much of this.
interesting did not know half of it.
Was Australia really self sufficient in aircraft production during the war? What about the necessary accessories that go into an aircraft? Such as radios, navigation equipment, instruments, toolings, hydraulic pumps. When producing later aircraft & engines in the 1960s, 1970s & 1980s were the aircraft and engines supplied in a knocked down condition and assembled in Australia?
All good questions.
Radios should not have been a problem in WW2 and the 1950's. Australian electronics company AWA was then the largest electronics manufacturer in the southern hemisphere, with a cross-licensing agreement with Marconi in Britain and RCA in America, giving them access to the latest technology. They could make anything.
During WW2, up to date radar systems were made by people you might not expect, such as the NSW Government Railways Workshops, including radars supplied to Macarthur's US forces.
I have a Beale upright..... Never knew that...
Great video.
wow they used to redline them before they were broken in. that's brutal 13:00
As a New Zealander I'm proud that im not Australian, that being said tho you Aussies were legends for your field modifications etc and in the creation of what would have been a contender with the mustang varient.
Anzac fury 💪
great show. at 1:00 it is mentioned that laskin built an airport at coode island. the names coode island and fishermans bend were interchangeable once upon a time. was this establishment at fishermans bend where the west gate park now is? i have seen photos of buildings at the f.b. areodrome of about this time but they are all different so it might have been on coode island itself which i do not think would have been large and firm enough for aircraft to land on. it seems there was an aircraft landing location within a few hundred yards of princes pier. a history of port melbourne website also mentions that there were deaths resulting from a bad landing there. ive seen a ww2 era japanese-made map of port melbourne on a facebook page to do with port melbourne history especially noting the harbour features but they have not recorded any details of the f.b. aerodrome. rather important oversight.
You failed to mention the best of all the fantastic F111.
Wasn't built here.
Yay!
If I remember correctly both the 51 and the F 86 were longer in the by 15/18 inches longer
AND NOW (THANKS,TO OUR WONDERFUL POLITITIONS !")--YES !!!-WE CAN'T EVEN MAKE A FRYING-PAN !!THANKS "BRO !!"--
Now we make paper towel
After the region’ distinguished history of manufacturing capability, now the plan is to bring Disneyland…….prophetic.
This is like a,V,I series great planes of 80 I used to watch on US TV on discovery channel 😔
If you look at the Australian built Beaufort have a hump in front of the pilot it's a early autopilot it wa needed because of the vast differences of flying over the pacific
Bob A /USA
No mention of the Australian Aircraft Consortium and the Wamira A10?
Interesting. I guess Michael didn't mention it for the sake of space - the piece was getting lengthy as it was. I see the consortium was CAC + GAF + HdH, so no new players here, just another project by the same large entities, but didn't make it to production. I'm sure there are a stack of design ideas that may have made it someway to prototype but didn't get any further. Anyway, interesting side note. Thanks John.
Here's the story from adf-serials www.adf-serials.com.au/3a23Wamira.htm
@@raafdocumentaries Thank you, I was the expediter in charge of the nose and main undercarriage at HdH
Let’s not forget that population numbers at the time.
My friend Peter Dymond served his engineering apprenticeship at CAC
He worked on the Avon Sabre building the gun mounts for the 30 mm Aden guns7:00.
He laments the passing of the Industry
I dont think that the RAAF was that supportive of the industry especially following the ill fated trainer the Wamira that they thought they wanted
i keep telling people we made beautiful mosquitos and no-one even knows and they just give me blank stares. "THEY'RE MADE OF WOOD DUDE!!"" -- nothing
Great doco but I don’t think the early workers would be happy with the state of the aircraft industry in Australia today ! As ex aircraft work from HDH at Bankstown plant it’s disappointing to see such a small aircraft industry . But must be said that what we do have is of would stranded
In a round about way, it actually makes me concerned about how much manufacturing power we've actually lost as a nation. I would think that would be a priority to try and remedy, but I guess not.
Distances
CAC effort was really wasted on obsolete aircraft designs. Other than trainers it was more like propaganda. Taking on the Luftwaffe with Wirraways is good laugh tho.
Indeed. Wirraways instead went up against top tier Japanese fighters - a very sobering and lopsided affair.
Just one slight thing to mention, at the time the wirraway was chosen we couldn't build anything more advanced, which was why we chose the thing in the first place!
Great story
It is such a shame that the Australia of the past is indeed past. Two generations later Australia stopped making ordinary cars. What happened. Cry the beloved country
Trojan was not this aircraft.
clickbait not made in anyone's home.
Australia ysed to be a smart country, producing surcraft. I worked at CAC at ine time. . No we cant orofuce snythjng, thanks to the pathetic governments
Australian Government: Sell our assets. Send our money overseas...
72 F35 American aircraft will cost Australia more than the entire GDP of our country for a full year, $1 trillion...
GAF sold to ensure bankruptcy...
Very far from the truth.
My friend Peter Dymond served his engineering apprenticeship at CAC
He worked on the Avon Sabre building the gun mounts for the 30 mm Aden guns7:00.
He laments the passing of the Industry
I dont think that the RAAF was that supportive of the industry especially following the ill fated trainer the Wamira that they thought they wanted