The Fierce Deity's Identity - Zelda Theory
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- We have some ideas for Majora, but what about its nemesis? Is it possible to identity the Fierce Deity?
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I always just assumed that the Fierce Deity Mask, since every transformation mask in MM has a soul inside of it, (the Zora's mask being Mikau, the Goron's mask being Darmani, and the Deku mask being suggested to being the Deku Butler's son) and since the Fierce Deity mask only appears in Termina, it has the spirit of that world's version of the fallen Hero of Time, or whatever he'd be called there.
This is supported due to that fact that everyone in Termina has a Hylian doppelganger, EXPECT for Link, and the Mask's close resemblance to him.
-seriously its like every theory on this game seems to forget this game is in an alternate universe or something-
its not an alternative universe tho just tons of characters are basically doppelgängers.
Hope im not mistaken but other theories resolved around that too, pointing out how the 4 kings of the various tripes were all plagues by the 4 stages of death.
I heard there was originally some explanation from the Happy MAsk Salesmen about Links doppleganger traveling to another world the same time he did, but playtesters found it too confusing so they left it out of the final script. But I dunno if that's true.
There’s also the fact that everyone in Termina DOESN’T have a counterpart. Kafei, mayor Dotour, most of the Zora band, the Goron elder and his son, the deku king and his court, Darmani, and Mikau and many more don’t have Hylian counterparts and Darunia, Naborou, Impa, Rauru, Saria and all the Kokiri don’t have Termanian counterparts. It’s possible Link is just one of a number who doesn’t have an opposite number in Termina.
@@quinnsinclair7028 umm, Darunia has a counterpart.
V1G4M1 No he doesn’t. The point of the doppelgängers in MM was to reuse assets from OoT. Daruni’s model is never reused in the game. The closest you could get to saying Daruni has a counterpart is Darmani but their models are starkly different beyond hair style.
The answer is out there already. Who is the Fierce Deity? From an interview:
"Whose soul is inside the Fierce Deity Mask?
Aonuma: The best I can give you is just a suggestion. The best way to think about it is that the memories of all the people of Termina are inside of the Fierce Deity Mask."
It's basically all the hopes of Termina's people to kill the Moon. Something like that.
Google the interview if you don't believe me.
That is the literal opposite of the will inside Majora. You could say it's the collected despair felt by all of Termina after skull kid+mask decimate the world with monsters and curses, though.
"Whose soul is inside the Fierce Deity Mask?
Aonuma: The best I can give you is just a suggestion. The best way to think about it is that the memories of all the people of Termina are inside of the Fierce Deity Mask."
IS JUST A SUGGESTION! This is by no means a 100% truthful fact! Not at all! He is suggesting it - what us! As readers and gamers, to think more on it see if we like the suggestion ourselves. If not, then no harm done, as it is not confirm - canon fact!
Pay attention to wording guys...
Sounds good to me.
NintenFan It's probably skyward sword link
Shannon Petrou your response has me thinking what if his suggestion is fact just not the way we think it to be instead of this mask being the direct manifestation of the hope of all of termina it is instead the hope they had of one person in the past. explains why it's their "memory"
I believe there needs to be a return to Termina. A sequel to Majora's Mask, it goes into the origins of the mask and Fierce Deity. Making it official canon. I love this theory....
Jennifer Pruitt This.
Jennifer Pruitt I don't like prequels because it takes the mystery out of some characters and can be really disappointing because of this. Most of the time it's more fun to make theories then to truly know
Jennifer Pruitt a Spinoff that isn't connected to the timeline, but hold a lot of lore would be great
Jennifer Pruitt probably will happen in the BoTW new story mode DLC this holiday
Jennifer Pruitt if they decided to make the unexplorable part of Hyrule in breath of the wild,Termina that would be incredible
The fierce deity’s real identity is actually LINK IN A MASK
If that is TRULY the case,then this reminds me of the game "Soul Reaver."
ohhhh myyyyy godddd
Or his termina counterpart
Ya I agree With the counterpart but I think this one has more evidence
@@Digitalhdwmn how did you know my secret
I'm thinking with all of that time for Girahim to create a false perception of Link, perhaps Girahim created an image and version of Link so powerful, that it HAD to be too powerful for him to defeat, since it's all he can remember happening. Maybe after centuries of insanity and isolation, deep down, he WANTED Link to fully and finally end him, which is why Link's Oni form was so powerful. Girahim wanted a challenge and to win, though maybe to him, winning was being simply put out of his own misery. Insane people can only truly be defeated by themselves.
I watched the majoras mask theory and I was stunned with amazement. Girahim could very well have created the mask to make sense out of something that doesn't. This is a great theory and should be canon in my opinion well done sir.
Rick Grimes I think I can improve this videos theory. Before Skyward Sword the Goddess Hylia was aided in sealing Demise by an unnamed hero. The fierce deity could be that hero or his spirit.
IF the theory that Majora was Ghirahim can hold its own, then the Feirce Deity could simply be a hyperbolic depiction of what Majora (Ghirahim) perceived the Skyward Sword Link to be: a very overpowered hero that is unbeatable. The Fierce Deity's ranged slashes are similar to the Skyward Strike ability for example.
In other words, the Feirce Deity mask is as strong as Majora, a powerful being, perceives it to be, therefor making it way more powerful than he himself is.
Both the Majora's Mask theory AND this Fierce Deity theory SHOULD BE CANON.
Angry Falcon Shark but that unnamed hero is still Skyward Sword Link. Demise calls him that in a way that was as if he saw him for the first time. And Link travelled back to that time too. It’s a different type of time traveling than OoT, so he could’ve written his own history in that way
@@angelhernandezvega6064 The Ocarina of Time, The Master Sword, and (I think) The Gate of Time, are all constructed out of the time stones in Skyward Sword, so it is all the exact same kind of time travel, a self-consistent time loop. The only instance of time travel seen in the games that is different is in OoT when Zelda (who is the goddess Hylia in human form) sent Link back in time to create a new timeline, instead of a consistent time loop. (And maybe Oracle of Ages.)
you know....the fierce deity looks like a....Sheikah just saying....
heh, dunno... I personally don't think he looks like one: His hairs are more steel grey than the pure white we can see on sheikahs, and he doesn't have the usual dark skin tone showed in OoT...
Plus the face paints and armor aren't quite sheikah-like (they use to have small white face paints and reinforced light armor, while the Fierce Deity has an outright heavy armor, moreso than adult Link)
And finally, he doesn't seem to wear Sheikahn symbols (the breast plate represents a triforce piece, and seeing the character I'm inclined to think it _isn't_ for once the Courage one, rather the Strenght; and a crescent moon, which I'd associate with Gerudos... And the fact both may refer to Ganon may be coincidental x) )
How about the fact he shares a few coloration choices with Girahim?
Like a combination of Link and himself.
That is not completely out of nowhere, but I'm not sure these similarities are enough, after all the main tint in Girahim is red and Link's is green whereas Fier Deity's is different shades of... blue...
Fierce Deity linked with Nayruor the Wisdom Triforce, maybe?
OK that's a totally stupid and out of nowhere hypothesis, but what if... the Fierce Deity was the Hero of the Triforce? I mean, general appearence of Link, the Hero of Courage, and an outfit reminding of their different incarnations [let's remember, the protagonist is the character with the most consistent design thorough the series]; A color scheme of blues, linked to Nayru and the Triforce of Wisdom, plus the white hairs generally assimiled to old age and wisdom. And as per the Strength... Well he is quite more buffier than even Adult Link, wears an armor and wields a quite big sword, all of those characteristics generally found in Ganondorf through the series, plus some war marks for good mesure...
I'm not saying it's flawless, I really wish I had more elements for the Wisdom part, but there may be something to dig (and while we're at it, what if the Tetraforce if it exists were some kind of combination of the three, huh?)
@@NWolfsson could it be the alternate version of the sheikah?
I mean he has face paint, but his armor reminds me of a samurai
ARE YOU GOING TO FINISH ON THE "point the sword skyward... hm.... maybe..." SENTENCE?!
ERROR he was insinuating that since the fierce deity is always holding his sword towards the sky, he is skyward sword link.
@@mango.frucht Do you think some peanut brains like us would know that? No no, not you. Does HE think we'd get that when we're asking the question?
I love the theory behind Majoras mask. I honestly haven't found any other theories that I genuinely could agree with. But I have a different theory about the fierce deity mask. If the Sheik really did create a mask based off a spirit that resided in Gannons sword (that we know was eventually to strong to control), it's entirely possible that the Sheik in turn created a mask from a spirit that they knew they could control, Fi. What if the sheik created a mask with power that the hero of time wielded in the master sword. Once Ghirahim possessed skull kid he may have returned to where his mask was being hidden by the Sheik, took the deity mask knowing that it was the only other being that could truly challenge him (or relate to his tortured existence as a being sealed away from it's master). This would also explain the masks appearance. Fi resembles her master in a lot of identifying features, although her ears are never shown. But being a spirit created to do the will of the goddess, it's not exactly a stretch that she would have pointed ears like the Hylians. This would also explain why Majora hands over the mask as a representation of the hero that once defeated and abandoned it. It's just a thought, but found it to be at the very least plausible if we are we working from the idea that Ghirahim is Majora.
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Since Fi's voice came from the Master Sword in Breath of the Wild, I'd say that sounds pretty unlikely.
I liked his majora voice, but if he added like a demonic dark version under it, that woulda been epic
I messed around with that idea during editing, but ended up not using it for the sake of being closer to the in-game voice. There are some remnants of it still in the video, but they're very quiet.
Razanak ooooooooh, also i did NOT expect you to reply, aka: HOLY SPAGHETTI COVERED IN DARK MAGIC A FAMOUS RUclipsR REPLIED TO MY COMMENT!
*insert death by happiness here*
if you cant tell i like ur vids m8
OH GOD HE'S DEAD
THEY TOLD ME THERE WOULD BE CASUALTIES BUT I DIDN'T BELIEVE THEM
It's possible Majora/Ghirahim put their power into the Fierce Deity Mask to ensure their survival. This could also go on to explain the darker timeline where Young Link went on this adventure in Termina and brought back a powerful mask which slowly corrupted him.
I love how your voice blends at first with Majora's, and then Majora takes over the narrative seamlessly
"Great editing, great sounds, solid theories... I'm gonna estimate 150k subs"
*scrolls up*
"what"
that happens in to many cases
150k views, is that enough?
Harry Manocha Ik
its his branding. His logo and name are meh...
in the fight against demise in skyward sword you shoot beams of lightning, could be why the fierce deity, his twisted perception of link, shoots beams from his sword
Micky Hopson Secret Skyrim boss? TBH, that'd be awesome.
Or maybe the Fierce Deity is links termina counterpart
“Why would he create this all-powerful mask and give it to his nemesis?”
So Link can kill him. Some aspect of the dragon is left alive in the mask. It wants to die.
That would tie it into the manga, anyway. I know the manga isn’t canon but I think that’s the simplest, logical explanation.
I like how you actually used the psychology of insanity in this.
Also being majora makes Girahim even more FABULOUS!
i think the fierce deity is the original hero.. like how zelda was hylia i think link was originally the fierce deity..??
in the hyrule historia states that the original link was just a normal person whp died from injuries after sealing demise and hylia made him reincarnete
well the original link might have been a normal person but that doesn't mean that he could have come from the fierce deity in some way?
I buy the theory that the Fierce Deity Mask represents everything about the Hero. Much like how the Zora mask or the Goron mask, while made from individuals, don't exactly replicate that individual. Those masks represent the perfect version of each of those races and individuals. Someone like the Fierce Deity could never exist, yet when imbued with the raw unrefined concept of a hero, the mask becomes the perfect unreachable version of the hero: The Fierce Deity.
Of course this would mean that at some point in the past, possibly a Link we've never even heard of was compressed into a mask via the song of healing or some other method we're unaware of.
Brad Malone i think so too
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That isn't canon. The most likely scenario is that Skyward Sword Link is the original Link. As he goes to the past to seal away Demise then returns to the present essentially creating his own history in a way. But that's just what I think. The manga at the end of Hyrule Historia remains non canon.
5:43-6:03 that is the PERFECT voice for majora’s mask! I love it
Awesome theory, I just always thought Fierce Deity was the terminal equivalent to link, therefore suggesting that link reincarnated from some God in the world of hyrule, similar to how Zelda is the reincarnation of Hyla, and Ganon is the reincarnation of demise. However this theory seems very plausible also, I never would've come up with something like this. Good Theory dude!
Brandon James maybe the fierce deity is the very first link
Miles The Balloon Popper you mean skyward sword link?
I loved that part where majora is talking that was great.
Alvin! And the chipmunks...
I really enjoyed and am convinced with your first theory about Majora's Mask, but I have a different theory for why the Fierce Deity Mask was made. Over the hundreds, maybe thousands of years being trapped, a part of Girahim wanted to be freed and made an ultimate mask to ensure that the reincarnation of Link, the hero of time, would defeat him, freeing him from the evil insanity that the mask trapped him in. I agree that Girahim based the mask on the Link from Skyward Sword, as both the Fierce Deity and Skyward Sword Link are taller, have swords that shoot beams, and Girahim has only seen this Link.
This is a really unique idea, both the identity of Majora as well as of course the Deity. I prefer this to other theories.
I think that Fierce Deity is the goddess Hylia's guard and it actually makes sense since Fierce Deity is a god or a fierce god.. Deity or something.. But I don't know really..
Oh, and like Zelda is a reincarnation of the goddess Hylia, so maybe Link is the reincarnation of the Fierce Deity??..
This would make a lot of sense! They often say link is the "reincarnation of the hero" so he has to have come from a "hero"...whether that is hylias personal guard, or the first "hero" in the series who kills the first ever "evil" (demise/ganon etc) ie skyward sword link (following the timeline)
Yea that is very true I mean look at him looks just like link but more badass
Then what is the double helix? That’s the more important thing to figure out.
Cody Blevins termina’s version of the master sword perhaps?
Hylia had a choosen hero before the events of Skyward Sword. Which is who we play as, Link is the recarnated hero. That is why he is connected to Zelda (Hylia) and Ganondorf (Demise).
PART ONE:
My theory is that termina's version of link/ fierce deity sealed majora would in the mask, but that alone wasn't enough. He turned himself into a mask to enter the mask realm (the realm all people or things turned into masks go to, I may have created this realm) and keep majora at bay, having a forever continuing battle in the mask realm. But if someone were to put on the fierce deity mask it would pull deity link out of the mask realm making it so majora could escape. So that would answer the question of why majora gave link the deity mask, he was hoping that restored to his full power he might be able to get his revenge on deity link for sealing him in the mask realm. As for how the happy mask salesman came to get it. Impa, the apprentice of deity link was told to hide the mask, she went to Hyrule (as in this video it says termina is an actual place, I agree) and hid it in the shadow temple. She established the Sheikah tribe to protect the secret of the mask... and eventually many many more secrets. With all this knowledge of secret stuff they became the highly advanced shiekah tribe. Now back to Mr. happy mask, kind of, part of the Sheikah tribe betrayed the rest, becoming the mysterious garo/yiga clan. This would make sense as the when entering the land the garo are in with the death mask, (or whatever it's called) they talk about a people who spied on hyrule. I think this was the garo/ evil sheikah. They could do this easily with gossip stones and other Sheikah instruments. Anyway, the garo (later to be called the yiga clan in breath of the wild) told the happy mask salesman about the mask, and it's whereabouts. He set up an innocent shop and after a couple months leaves after he had stolen the mask. This explains why he left Hyrule market so soon after he set it up. His mask was stolen by skull kid and he decided to follow link knowing he was a hero. He witnessed skull kid stealing links ocarina. He sees this as an opportunity to get link to get the mask back for him. The events of majora's mask pass. I also say Majora's lied when he said the fierce deity mask was of dark origin. He doesn't want you to have this power forever, he hopes you'll get rid of it if he is defeated again by it. Further, happy face lied when telling link all of majora's dark power is gone from the mask.
MAJORA WILL RETURN!!!
HA, HA, HA, HAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
Now for PART TWO a.k.a.
MAJORA'S MASK 2:
Another reason Majora's gave link the deity mask is because it was a trap. In the mask was a special stone capable of splitting the timeline/ creating an alternate demension. Majora's could not activate this stone in his mask form. So he tricked link into activating it. Any way, when link wore the mask (thus giving Majora his full power as explained in part one) and destroyed majora, it created enough energy to activate the timeline stone. In that timeline created by the stone, Majora flees the scene instead of fighting because he has the memories of the alternate timeline because he was the reason it was activated, (the energy of his full power disintegrating into the air activated the stone) thus knowing he would be defeated. This is majora's intelligent and cunning backup plan. You find out he fled to Hyrule joining the armies if ganondorf who was in war with Hyrule while link was in termina which is proved in twilight princess. Link has to defeat both Majora and ganondorf.
Earned my sub, because of the everloving MIND BLOW that occurred, right before it all got wrapped up.
Good job, sir.
Good job.
Okay, I just watched both Majora's Mask theory episodes and I'm incredibly impressed. Subbed and ready for more! (All in your own time of course). You know, just a random thought; the observations of there being the five stages of grief tie in quite well to your Ghirahim being Majora's mask. That could also be reflective of his mental and emotional state by the time the game rolls around.
It's quite possible.
+Raz wow just wow
+Razanak i want to see come back maby in another timeline or somthing and see what the reincarnate rage of his master has made only for him to freak out kill gannon instantly monologe about how much more power full he is now, drag fi out of the master sword instantly rusting it trapping her inside of her cristal and then teleport away telling link "oh but you cant fight me again yet you havent ruined my attept at some justice yet, although looking foward to the challenge again." in breath of the wild would make so many people be like wtf
Close, but the last theme is acceptance. What would Ghirahim be accepting?
Brendan Wolff his fate once he gives the mask to link it’s like saying/asking for one final match and accept the outcome idk how It’s how I see it 🤔
I like to think when Demise and Ghirahim first tried to wage war on Hylia and the world, Fierce Deity was there and helped to put Demise down for the first time.
It just would add to it. Ghirahim lost to him, then SS Link, then lastly, when he sees the hero of time, the young kid, he would be humiliated beyond belief if he lost to a kid, so he wants the final battle to be with the godlike being who saved the world the first time (I think this but it's only my personal theory. the blue glow thing on Fierce Deity's sword REALLY isn't close to SS links sword glow... Maybe N64 couldn't render it further. And the way he holds the double helix sword REALLY shouldn't count as evidence, since it's a LARGE two handed sword, and the Goddess Blade/Master Sword is a small one handed blade)
You have an excellent skill set for deconstructing and reconstruction of a new story that easily intertwines. Well done on both videos
I'm not terribly qualified to theorize, having technically never played the game myself, but the theory that makes the most sense to me is that the Fierce Deity is simply... Link. Or rather, the idea of Link. The Hero of Courage, counterpart to the goddess Hylia and the demon god Demise. The epitome of a single hero that can stand against gods and monsters and overcome them through sheer guts and martial prowess.
This ideal, this hope and memory is carried by all those Link has saved. When Link puts on the Fierce Deity mask, he is empowered by the admiration... dare I say the worship all those people give and have given to him in all his incarnations throughout time. He accepts it, accepting in the process the idea of being more than just a simple man. And in so doing, is no longer merely a courageous, fierce man... but a courageous, fierce deity.
It is a common theme in many works that gods can be created where there are none, if people simply place enough faith in them. Heck, it's an actual thing in Shinto belief, which is deeply ingrained in the culture of Japan where the LoZ games were written. The Fierce Deity being "a deity based on Link," whom Link could potentially be empowered by (such as with the mask) and might one day retroactively become is perfectly in theme.
After watching your two videos about majoras mask and the fierce deity mask, I've subbed for more! Really enjoyed your videos, awesome solid theories and great editing ^^
Perhaps the helix of the feirce deities blade also draws a further connection. The sword Link uses to defeat demise is two part after all, something "Majora" would definitely understand.
ever since I started watching a LOT of zelda theories,it's kinda putting doubts in my head.It's making me question everything.Now zelda seems even bigger to me now
what's interesting is that the fierce deity mask and ghirahim have a similar color scheme. game-wise, it's probably a coincidence, but following your theory, it's an interesting little note.
They really don't.
The entire segment around 5:33 with Majora trying to rationalize Link stuck in my head all these many years and it took me far too long to re-find this video.
I was always under the impression that The Fierce Deity was the Terminian Link, one who held the Triforce of Power and the curse of Terminian Demise's Hatred.
Me personally i think the Fierce Deity is a title given to multiple people that wear the mask much like every reincarnation of Link is given a different title like Hero of Time/Wind also its been said that the mask has the memories of the people of Termina so it would make sense that if multiple people have worn it, it would have many memories of many people
image was too blurry at the end to understand your point.
Though it has been officially stated - however vaguely - who the Fierce Deity is, I still believe that this theory as well as your Majora's Mask theory makes a lot of sense.I am so glad I remembered this theory after all this time. So worth searching for!! :D
In buddhism if you look the name up they take the form of wrathful and inverse versions of other gods to lead people to enlightenment. Destroying every obstacle in their way to make it happen. In the interview, if you take the sentace and replace the word memories in "the memories of all the people in termina" with "fear", it will make alot more sense. We dont have to theorize, its right in front of us. But awesome video by the way
Double helix sword, you mean DNA sword JK! Lol.
You know,if you look at his sword closely. The Infinity Symbol looks a LOT like the blade of Fierce Deity Link's sword. At least it does to me anyway...🤔
Love how you used Ninetails from Okami at 1:26.
I'd like to repeat my comment on the last video. I enjoyed watching this video and this theory is very interesting to me. It's the only thing I've seen on the Fierce Deity Mask that I truly believe could be the case. I agree with you quite a lot on both this theory and the one before it!
it's links true form
Ultra instinct Link
I feel like the fierce deity is actually a combination of the two people who stopped ghirahim.Link and The Sheikah
Fierce deity has links hair style, body and face, while having The Sheikahs' hair color, face painting and clothing style/color.And if the theory about the sheikah turning ghirahim into the mask is true, he must resent the sheikah on equal terms as Link.
I hope we get a "game hopping" semi open world combination of all games, ending in link learning secrets to masks and that you need an equal power in opposition in order to live forever in a mask. He does the comic and carves a mask out of the corpse of the dead dragon, preserving it and himself in a mask.
Whenever a new game comes out, they can lace it into the adventure
You put a lot of good work into your videos! I don't quite accept your theories as headcanon from what I've seen, but I wouldn't say that's your measure of success. I like your videos.
6:30 Wow! Finally! Somebody who makes a zelda theory video actually includes characters from the cartoon when they show multiple incarnations of the character.
I think the the mask gave link the fierce deity mask in a brief moment of clarity in hopes that link would use it to finally kill him and end the torture he had been through. At the same time because he was demented he was also bent on keeping his power and defeating link.
I never understood why people use references from other games when this game takes place in a completely different universe. Eonuma stated (that's not even in the game, TBF) that the mask itself combines the power of every Terminan resident. My theory is that both THE Majora's Mask and Fierce Deity's Mask aren't masks of actual people, but power inside of them.
I believe that what Eonuma said was true, and it's transforming Link because of the great power that it has, and "Majora" to me is the name of the tribe that created it, "THE Majora". And transformation masks don't have to come from a specific spirit of a person or even fully transforming them into a different person, i.e. the Giant's Mask and even Majora's Mask. Also on a side note it's weird how tribe-like Odowla looks...
here's my theory:
He's the emotions god in termina
it's true, in the original game even a gossip stone tells you that too and
the mask is obtained after giving all other mask to Majora's moonchilds,
and as we know the mask we obtain can keep or be incarnations of the emotions, as the Gorman crying mask, the gibdo mask, and the stone mask.
so when Majora tells you that you don't have any mask, Majora actually makes it,using what it learned from the exagerated perception about link (and those are the emotions they claim, the perception they have about link) from all the people as base, but "demonized" because those mask filled with their thoughts about you where obtained after foiling some disasters caused by it too, the adult appearance comes from the emotions of the girl that gives you the cow mask aknowledging you as an adult, or maybe the manga where that dragon appears and die after raving non stop 3 days is a fairy tale in termina, and they think "that boy looks like the hero from the fairy tale"
Great theory that supplements the awesome Majora theory. Also, I am really impressed with the editing.
Editing is by far the most time consuming part of any of these. Even this shorter one took more time to edit than writing all four of my theory videos combined.
Yeah, and I can definitely tell by how quality it is. I see videos from channels with hundreds of thousands of subscribers and a team of editors that are not as fluid as these. Also, I have to say, adding the in-game sound effects to accentuate your words was pretty funny
I'm glad the time is paying off.
5:34 I love it when you do things like this
1:05 THAT WAS ROSS' LUGIA FROM POKEMON ART ACADEMY I LOVE YOU
More like Fart Academy am I right?
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I mean, if you follow the Aonuma article, it gets a lot simpler. Maybe Majora or Ghiraham gets stronger from the suffering of others. That would explain the hexing rituals backstory and would explain why Ghiraham almost randomly became sentient inside the mask. And all Fierce Deity is is the manifestation of all the suffering the Mask has caused in the game and that’s why it’s imbued with dark power because it’s made by actual suffering. But that’s just a theory, a half baked theory! Thanks for reading
So hear me out here. Oni link, or Demon Link, was the original. A fierce force of nature, and growing ever powerful, his power had to be diluted. The goddesses themselves may have had to do this act, but I believe He was split in two. His dark interloper side, and the good from within. Both sides retaining some of his original immortality. The dark interloper wouldn't have to reincarnate because it could go back to the shadows. To keep the hero spirit humble and true, he would have to have the illusion of mortality, so he would die and be reincarnated whenever and wherever he was needed next.
There's one little problem with your theory; if Majora really WAS Girahim, and the Fierce Deity really WAS his twisted image of Link, which he wanted to die fighting, he'd give the Fierce Deity Mask to Link REGARDLESS of whether or not Link got all the other masks in the game. This was still an interesting video though.
PS: Congrats on getting that part of Ganondorf's Wind Waker speech right; whenever I watched videos in which other people read that speech, the speaker always said frigid PALE, even though the subtitles said frigid GALE; but YOU got it RIGHT. Nice job.
I LOVE THE ENDING TO YOU THEORY VIDS ON MAJORA
Dude your story telling is on point and editing i fucking love you
I think that the four Boss masks represent the stages of Girahim’s decent into madness. Odalwa(?) represents his restlessness and boredom. Goht represents his fear and doubt. As for Gyorg and Twinmold... I have no idea. Sorry.
The Fierce Deity mask represents his fury, and will to hurt and destroy. Have you ever been angry with someone and wanted to punch them? Or if you’ve been mad at game, and you want to smash the control? Imagine that times a thousand. He’s so angry, he doesn’t just want to hurt Link, he wants to hurt EVERYONE.
both this theory and your majora theory was amazing and I think they are the best and should be Canon they're just so awesome
I thought the theories for Majora's Mask and the Fierce Deity Mask is pretty impressive. :)
Never played these games but you do a good job I'm excited about these games
My personal theory is the the Fierce Deity is the Terminian counterpart of Hylia, as Termina is a byproduct of Hyrule being created (not sure where that comes from though)
Nah, Fierce Deity is a Fierce Deity, not Shinto God.
I was more thinking that the fierce deity mask was created by Ghiarahim as a means to kill himself if he went too far. It's a bit loose given both personas being evil but maybe it could be the case. It would also explain majoras pure and child like appearance when he gives link the mask. Like maybe that's the one good part of him left or something. Idk just an idea.
Guess this works with your theory, but do feel like leaving a comment again(Sorry if I sound too harsh by the way):
It is again my interpretation, but I would say the fierce deity is more a Termina equivilant to Link, like Majora is to Demise/Ganon/Ganondorf. Something that might have had its own physical form to safe Termina from when Majora first rose to power and the goddess of time(Equivilant to Zelda and Hylia) noticed and send her own chosen hero or made them. Granted, the oni is a good point, though one can also look into buddhism and what a fierce deity is there, as for maybe not taking Majora's word for granted. A being without morality driven by someone elses inner demons and issues would see an enemy as something far worse than it might actually be. And in buddhism for what I heard(Might be incorrect), fierce deities lead people to enlightenment. So who's to say the deity didn't stood up to Majora before, maybe died in the progress and like the other transformation masks was turned into one?
Again, its just my take and I sure might be wrong big time, but just wanted to share this little bit.
Link being "it" makes a whole lot more sense than him being the bad guy, I wonder if that was a mistranslation.
Fierce Diety is powerful
And he does look like an Oni
Ghirahim is crazy and made Link into a fierce monster.
Good vid! Could you do one about the Zora Sapphire and Lanayru Desert symbol?
Well obviously hes the legendary hero, the one sometime before skyward sword. Meaning he didnt have the master sword because it wasn't made yet. In Japan the oni is not just some evil being but a demi god (hence the name deity. He is an incarnation of the God of justice that once freed majora of his immortality. I'm inclined to believe that majoras mask was made before skyward sword due to this. It was one demigod vs another. By that time majoras mask was made and hidden by the sheika.
The traveller who slayed the original majora the dragon in the manga looks really really similar to Fierce Deity Link which is really cool since Fierce deity link slays majora so quickly and the traveller is the only one who successfully slayed thedragon, in the manga he satiated the mask by playing tag and in the past he satiated the dragon by playing music and allowing him to die like he wanted
Hey here is a thought that expands on your theory Razanak. Now we don't really know where Termina is. Could it be the crack in the ground that released Demise back to the world? Or is it another realm, like the Twilight Realm, that was created to hold prisioners, or was it a parallel realm that always existed since Hyrule's creations. So the thought is this ok. As far as we know it both the lost woods and the Great Deku Tree didn't exist in skyward Sword. So what if after Link and Zelda went back to the future, Ghiriham showed his face again and like u said Impa faced him and used the song of healing to turn him into a mask. However she didn't stop there. Being a Shiekah and thus servant of Hylia she knew about the parallel world of Termina so without anyone knowing, she got help from the Great Fairy Queen to open a rift to Termina and went there and left the mask in the empty region that would later become stone Tower and then returned to Hyrule. Then to make sure to hide the existence of Termina and keep anyone from finding it or bringing it back the Great Fairy Queen and Impa give life to the lost woods to guard the doorway to Termina and the Great Deku Tree to watch over and Guard the Lost Woods. However unfortunately for Impa the mask was found by a dark tribe that used it in their heking rituals those giving it more power and transforming Ghiraham to Majora and giving the mask back its awareness but not all its memories. Now as to Fierce Deity Mask. What if that mask holds the Spirit of Hero Link also from SS. So 100 years later after Impa seals Ghiraham's body into the Majora's Mask, Link shows up. He gets stronger, has a kid, and explores the world of the surface. Eventually he comes upon the Great Deku Tree and The Lost woods. The GDT tries to warn him of the curse but he disregards it and is affected by it. Eventually he stumbles upon the entrance to Termina and travels there. However while there he begins to sucomes to the curse and begins to transform his mind warping with each minute that goes by. However just before his body transforms somebody who knows the song of healing, plays it and transforms him into the mask thus saving him. That is why the mask has the description of having terrible power rivaling Major's. Then the fierce deity mask passes thru time in Termina until the Skull Kid, mind controlled by Majora's Mask, finds it and keeps it by its side. Till Link shows up and stirs Majora's memories causing it to remember its days as Ghiraham. With its memories restored, he seeks a final fight with Link and after he loses he is satisfied at last and finally feels free thus his spirit and magic leave the mask for good, his soul finally at peace.
Fierce Deity is the Link from Termina. He sacrificed himself in such a way that it destroyed him forever, no more reincarnation. Thus setting termina down a darker path than Hyrule.
No, Fierce Deity is Link's form after he becomes a Bodhisattva.
I wonder how power fierce diety link would be against ganon. Keep in mind that fierce diety link does not have the master sword so no power to cast down evil but still op. An intersting fight i believe that would be.
Probably the same as against Majora.
Aunoma confirmed that the fierce deity mask was the souls of everyone inside it. Also, before you say it was a suggestion, make sure you understand that he said "the best way to think about it" meaning it most likely is canon
He said memories, not souls.
Honeslty I think the mask is just that version of the hero in termina, we know that link reencarnates, maybe the actual soul of the hero, a deity if you will was trapped in that mask, hence the need of link having to go to termina and act as the hero, because there wont ever be another hero in termina due to it being sealed in the deity mask.
This piece and its companion are seriously good think pieces. Again, perhaps not good enough for head canon, but a lot of fun to consider.
Then again, it is the "Legend" of Zelda. Perhaps all of these theories are wonderful reinterpretations of mythology.
As much as I like to think the Fierce Deity is Link’s counterpart in Termina, this is awesome to think about too!
Fierce Deity is Termina's version of Link and tick by Majora and trap in the mask.
Fierce Deity is a form of Link that pops up when he becomes a Bodhisattva.
I have my own little theory. That is that the 'Oni' doesn't actually exist yet. Instead it is Link far in the future after something happened that made him turn into this being. Forced him to ascend capable of manipulating time to force himself into the past
What if the fierce deity IS Link. Kind of like the Avatar spirit/Avatar State in Last Air Bender. There are different Links, but maybe the soul is the same. Originally the Avatar was supposed to be the spirit of the earth incarnate, that lived human lives over and over and could draw on the power of past lives. Perhaps the diff versions of Link are the Hero of Time spirit reincarnated, and the Fierce Deity is the "Avatar State" for Link?
That doesn't really fit with the fact that Majora('s Mask) gives Link the power to turn into the Fierce Deity. If it's a power Link has innately, why would he need a mask for it? And even if so, why would Majora('s Mask) (be able to) give it to him?
the hero in the manga who makes the mask from the dragon is clearly based off the mask or even the other way round. the hero is related to the mask so it makes sense he could have been turned into a mask if he died before relinquishing the mask. especially if he carried the mask around for years as a partner
The fierce deity has its own consciousness. The other masks Link puts on don’t have pupils during the transformation. But the fierce deity mask does
FD is just a form of Link.
I don't necesarily buy either theory, however I wanna let you know that it's still really cool to theorize about it like that anyway. Good content. :)
nice this is a very good fallowup in ghirahim being majora
This theory (and majoras video) are the best theorys i have ever heard/seen!
I just have one question. Where did girahim get the power to just make the fierce deity and to make the moon fall?
I NEED A PART TWO TO THIS!! AND TO MM!!
I´m speechless by your videos and it really made incredibly impressed, excellent job! Majoras mask is my favorite game and I coulndt think of its origin with such precision.
BRO what if fierce deity is his form purified to BECOME his own hero of time? what if he created it to destroy his weaker half? he watched the hero triumph like in legend and wanted it himself so what if he manifested the mask from his own spirit rendering him insane but willingly giving the mask away to destroy the evil in himself?
there would have to be a trace of goodness in him first and, unfortunately, we never see it
If anything, what girahim has made Link into, has all been watered down.
I have an idea that the fierce deity itself was god-like being like Hylia.
Hylia is a Shinto Goddess, Fierce Deity is a Fierce Deity.
incredibly interesting theroy I absolutly love it
I would add to all that the fact that Fierce Diety Link looks very much like a Sheikah... and it would still fit the theory that Majora's Mask was made by the Sheikah. If Majora wanted to fight the extreme personification of all his enemies wouldn't an adult version of Link combined with the power of the Sheikah be the ultimate enemy of Ghirahim? Also wasn't Ghirahim dressed in a white tunic with silver hair and armor? Wouldn't there also be a good probability that after locked away and seething in his own hatred also contain some self hatred? Wouldn't Ghirahim's ultimate nemesis be a combination of everythin, he hates? Skyward Sword Link that destroyed his master, the Sheikah that imprisoned him, and including himself for his own weakness and failure or maybe a memory of his old self that is so different than what he is now that he despises it?
Maybe Majora fought another hero (another link) years ago that was/looked like the Fierce Diety mask, possibly an alternate time line or ancestor of the link we know now. And after fighting him, and years of self reflection, channeled that dark energy into a mask.
Fierce Deity isn't all that old. He pops into existence when Link proves to be a Bodhisattva.
It actually blows my mind.... because the discs from the helix blade look just like the skyward strikes.
And just like every other Zelda game where you shoot beam from your sword.
One guy i dont remember the name of said how Termina saw it hero: A young unkown kid comes out of nowhere and fixes everyones problems aka side quests and when getting all the mask, you are given the Fierce Deity mask, with all the memorys of those you have helped, seems to fit well right?
I think it's the person you stated a person that made majors mask when he granted him his wish maybe he made a mask to stop majora just incase things got out of hand or majora ticked him with his power locking him into them mask like we seen with the other three masks
If that makes sense
I can't believe how some people act over this... Good lord. Anyway! Love your theory, it's the most convincing yet! You've clearly done your research. You've earned a subscriber.
The only thing I'd say (from the other video) is that I wouldn't discount the Twili's involvement based on the rounded design of MM. Remember, Majora's Mask comes from [before] they became the Twili, so the more blocky styles found in the Twilight Realm are god knows how many centuries later. Art styles change! Just a thought.
I also have a hunch that the Twili were once a sect of the Sheikah. My theory is that way before the events of Skyward Sword they disagreed with each other about the use of certain types of shadow magic, which lead to a major schism. The sect that embraced the dark magic were later banished to the Twilight Realm (and may even be responsible for Demise), while the rest of the Sheikah were forced to spread thin and remain in the shadows to quell any desire to use that magic again.
The Zelda fanbase is nothing if not passionate, so it's bound to happen. Anyway, that's a valid point. I suppose it doesn't really work to switch between in-universe and meta reasons for something the way I did in the first part, but I would also argue that I really doubt the Twili changed anything between then and now. Considering how few there are and what little space they have, I can't imagine them disassembling giant castles like that. Even the Twilight Realm was originally much larger and parts broke off, it seems to me like that would make them value the old architecture and styles much more; in real life, small communities are much more apt to holding on to traditions.
As for the Twili being Sheikah, it could work. That would probably be a theory in itself, though.
I LOVE the crazy mask talking about link bit in this
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I havent played botw, but i hope green tunic wearing LINK appears in a future console game. Botw link was awesome... but the green hat and tunic is my favorite
It is in there, the tunic of the wilds. its just optional.
If the Sheikah were indeed the ones who transformed Ghirahim into the mask, then perhaps the Fierce Deity could be an amalgamation of his hatred for both Link and the Sheikah. The Fierce Deity has white hair and white clothes, two features that weren’t apart of the Skyward Sword Link, but were most likely a significant aspect of the Sheikah. The Impa from Skyward Sword and Ocarina of Time both have white hair, and combined with the white colors on Sheik and Impa’s outfits from Ocarina of Time, white is clearly shown to be a sigficant color for the Sheikah, so this could have been carried over to the Fierce Deity. The red eyes of the Sheikah may have also inspired the red coloring around the eyes of the Fierce Deity.
The Fierce Deity is a form of Link. Just as actual Fierce Deities are foms of Devas and Bodhisattvas.
In german the fierce deity is called „grimmige gottheit“ what means „angry goddess“.