Shango the tease. He refuses to let us see the full cleaning footage and feel the satisfaction of him finally cleaning a chassis. 😂 Damn you, Shango. 😊
The 6W6 was designed to run at lower voltages than the 6L6 and 6V6. As such it has a 1200ma heater to get the required cathode emission while the 6V6 has a 450ma heater and the 6L6 has a 900 ma heater. Actually, the 6W6 is close to being a 50L6 with a 6.3 volt heater. The 6V6 would make a poor sub for the 6W6, I think you might have to dig up the real McCoy here. A 6Y6 would be closer, but it won't fit either! A 5881 might do it, that's an industrial midget version of the 6L6. That test tube is probably a 5FP7. It has a cascade phopher, the back is a short blue, the front is a long yellow/green. The blue excites the yellow/green, just like your phone did. You can get a decent blue picture out of it, and won't see the yellow at all, unless you crank the brightness down. Those 5" radar test tubes don't have any 'dag'. You MUST have a capacitor from HV to ground (usually one of those 'door knob' caps).
The red stuff looks like the stuff used in motor rewinding back in the 1970's. It is an insulator. A trick for building small block Cheverolets was to paint the valley of the block with that to aid oil return from the heads because it was much smoother than the cast iron of the block. It was capable of withstanding high temperature and the chemicals in the oil.
Adjusta-gap! Cool! Sony trinitron tried to nail the core down with rusty bolts. Big M decides to go with the problem and adjust it. Great video! 73 es W3IHM
Crosley used almost the identical same flyback in their 17" sets in 1954. With the same underchassis placement and horizontal width core. That radar CRT makes everything look lile it was filmed with a Vidicon tube camera with the target and beam settings off.
5FP7 tubes were used in the old 8 second SSTV monitors, I remember sitting in the dark watching SSTV pictures build on the monitor built by G3YCV around 1975. Good fun to see one of these in a regular TV.
Only Shango can get a TV picture on a tube, yoke and focus coil not meant for the set, and not blow anything by laying the EHT cap on the chassis. Love the rubber band CRT clamp.
wow, mechanical flyback core . never seen that before. ive been watching these videos for years and theres always something new to learn . Thank you shango066
sadly, real estate is so costly, have not the square footage, in this 95422, 6th street home~ am disabled, my shop and career are gone, but you impressions are kindred, as fixing everything is my specialty~
That looks like P7 phosphor. The same kind used for RADAR tubes of the time! I have a 5FP7 tube I made a circuit for displaying vector graphics on. It's a beautiful color combination. It uses a fast blue phosphor on the back and a yellow/green phosphor on the front for the persistence.
I have a 10SP7 I think it is, it works on 10BP4 sets. Same fast blue and long green. I was thinking of making an ultrasound scanner with it. I took two transducers and mounted them on a mechanical sweeping arm to an oscilloscope and it will show if a metal yard stick is in front of it to about 15 feet. Then I would need the up and down sweep to get a full image. I don't know though tests had pretty crude results.
@@SoundsLegit71 I as thinking of doing something similar since it's now an XY scope. Right now it just receives audio files from a raspi that are generated using a program I wrote called imagetovectwave
Motorola engineers design things a little differently to avoid RCA patents. Quite often a challenge to repair. Many bumble- bee and old waxy capacitors to fail or have failed. Two thumbs way up on the fella who sent you some components and a real nice B&K model 890 cap meter! 👍👍
Those P7 CRT's usually had a deep orange filter on the front to dim the blue-white flash and pass the orange afterglow. I may still have a 5FP7 or two from a couple of dismantled microwave spectrum analyzers. They needed a slow sweep speed to trace out fine spectrum details. Amazing devices but the size of a console TV.
Those Paper capacitors get leaky because of moisture that gets into them, the older beeswax caps usually don't leak because the beeswax is softer and doesnt crack as often. I have tried repairing old paper caps, boiling the moisture off in wax which took about 4 hours, afterwards the caps tested perfectly with no leakage.
Yes you can boil those caps with boiling them in wax, but only if the were wax impregnated. Most of the times (at least on European sets), the caps were in glass tubes and sealed with tar (bitumen) that gets really hard and cracks. Those cannot be saved...
Also sometimes the paper ingresses so much moisture that it physically expands and cracks the glass tubes... some caps were even put in metal boxes that were then sealed with tar. I've seen those expand so much the metal failed and cracked
*This is Truly an Art!* Raising the Spirits to come forward after years of life under Dust. Shapeshifter style of view, luring vocabulary; A Total TRIP, _magnates,_ your Focus connection.
"...permananently retired into the incinerator." LMAO! Thank you for brightening up my day. Great job on this oddball set especially with the experimental use of a energised focus coil, and radar CRT. Interesting application of a mechanically adjustable LOPT/flyback transformer to control width.
You MacGyver like I MacGyver! You had me rolling with the focus coil with a variac shunt supplied from the field coil supply. The picture on the radar tube was all worth it. Keep up the great work.
It's all about ' make it go in time for the evening news ' I used to play with tvs and didn't know diddley squat. Now I still don't know squat but I wish I had known the squat I know now back when I had a bunch of junk to play with. I would love to still have that 1949 spartan mirror - on - lid , I would be all over it changing out everything.
52:25 actually im really good at fixing 50's 60's BW sets and learnt from here....cant learn anything with bob anderson, he just changes every out of spec resistor and cap...if an amateur does that, there is very slim chance the set will ever work again...i learn how the set works little by little from watching videos like this and also reading books about tv receiver servicing
I’m in love! 2 Shango videos at the same time….winning tonight. ❤👌🏼 So trippy & cool with the green glowage on that little round CRT. Does remind you of those glow sticks.
Kool video to watch on my Saturday Morning with coffee, got up and was just excited to enjoy one of my favorite show The Shango channel always something new to learn and nice humor too you don't that extra bonus on other channels either it was a great experience to watch wish I could get that TV but too far to go to drive down there. Thanks for sharing this me and wow girl friendly jeans too. thanks Mike you made my day.
A fascinating resurection. I have a thing for Motorola. I remember a few Motorola products from long ago that were, well, above average all around imo.
That capacitor sorting meter is very interesting to me. In the 1980s. I work for a company that did active filters using LM1458 OP AMPS,and we sorted 820 pF capacitors using a similar but cheaper meter.
That tube has two phosphor coatings. The "White" one is normal persistence, they add a yellow one for the long persistence, maybe as you said, radar likely the use for it (they do use these kinds of CRTs for that reasons, to make an image from a rotating line).
If you can obtain 6P1P, make an adapter for the octal 6V6. Same tube, much lower prices and many stockpiles of brand new ones in the former USSR. There's also the chinese 6P1 clone of the 6P1P. The military version (6П1П-EB / 6P1P-EV) should be a fairly decent as an inexpensive replacement, while the non "EV" version or the chinese ones should be a decent throwaway test tube as they are very cheap.
Resurrection is much much more interesting to me than restoration. Restoring these is just a matter of hucking parts at it until it works and that's just not the right way to do things. Edit: really cool to see that 6AX4 doing it's thing
The ultimate vintage gaming CRT, same type the PDP-1 used to play Spacewar in 1962. The animation programs they made were pretty mesmerizing on that thing.
Those of us in this hobby are fortunate that Phosphorus coatings inside these old crt's are very durable. Imagine if they degraded after 15 years well that would be it for the hobby.
Beware the potential Motorola Menace: Motorola was famous for using Autotransformers. I would rather they just had used a series string in there so your guard is up from the get-go.
That’s just a 60s thing, my dad did that up till 2010, he was the same age as Falk. He had a couple old hats too, and sometimes wore those, many men were NOT trendy lol.
Since WWII resistors for the most part followed the E system, for what ever reason capacitors hung on to the old (RMA) system for years after. I have a few hundred .047 630V boxes for you if you want them (Private message to follow)...Caveat being they are PC mount with short legs.
You can probably opt for a current production JJ 6v6. I have one in my guitar amp. Some say it's more like a "6VL6" as a joke. Other words, in between like that 6W6 you're describing.
"I don't ever expect to retire from fixing things until I'm permanently retired into the incinerator". My respects, sir. That's the spirit
Shango066, ''This is even too dirty for me to work on''.
Can you imagine???
“This is too dirty for me to even work on”. Words I’d never thought I’d hear you speak!
Shango the tease. He refuses to let us see the full cleaning footage and feel the satisfaction of him finally cleaning a chassis. 😂 Damn you, Shango. 😊
The 6W6 was designed to run at lower voltages than the 6L6 and 6V6. As such it has a 1200ma heater to get the required cathode emission while the 6V6 has a 450ma heater and the 6L6 has a 900 ma heater. Actually, the 6W6 is close to being a 50L6 with a 6.3 volt heater. The 6V6 would make a poor sub for the 6W6, I think you might have to dig up the real McCoy here. A 6Y6 would be closer, but it won't fit either! A 5881 might do it, that's an industrial midget version of the 6L6.
That test tube is probably a 5FP7. It has a cascade phopher, the back is a short blue, the front is a long yellow/green. The blue excites the yellow/green, just like your phone did. You can get a decent blue picture out of it, and won't see the yellow at all, unless you crank the brightness down.
Those 5" radar test tubes don't have any 'dag'. You MUST have a capacitor from HV to ground (usually one of those 'door knob' caps).
"I don't plan on retiring from fixing things until I retire permanently to the incinerator."
Amen Shango! I feel the exact same way.
The red stuff looks like the stuff used in motor rewinding back in the 1970's. It is an insulator. A trick for building small block Cheverolets was to paint the valley of the block with that to aid oil return from the heads because it was much smoother than the cast iron of the block. It was capable of withstanding high temperature and the chemicals in the oil.
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Adjusta-gap! Cool! Sony trinitron tried to nail the core down with rusty bolts. Big M decides to go with the problem and adjust it. Great video! 73 es W3IHM
1:14 It's amazing that the term "OLD SET" even existed in 1953, given that TVs for the U.S. market had only been mass-produced since about 1948.
I restored a 17 table top version of that TV. The cabinet on mine is all Bakelite and has the same bezel around the CRT. Mine is a 17T5A.
Crosley used almost the identical same flyback in their 17" sets in 1954. With the same underchassis placement and horizontal width core.
That radar CRT makes everything look lile it was filmed with a Vidicon tube camera with the target and beam settings off.
5FP7 tubes were used in the old 8 second SSTV monitors, I remember sitting in the dark watching SSTV pictures build on the monitor built by G3YCV around 1975. Good fun to see one of these in a regular TV.
Only Shango can get a TV picture on a tube, yoke and focus coil not meant for the set, and not blow anything by laying the EHT cap on the chassis. Love the rubber band CRT clamp.
wow, mechanical flyback core . never seen that before. ive been watching these videos for years and theres always something new to learn . Thank you shango066
Agreed well said
That radar tube was a trip, no need for drugs :-D
Exactly, who needs drugs when you can play with that CRT all day long. 😂
Even better if you are on drugs and then you start playing with this CRT.
@@albinklein7680 How did you know i was on drugs.... Ok they are prescribed medication from my doctor 😀
I'm boring now lol.
Glad you got it working. Very creative focus solution. P7 is wild to watch - sounds like you were having a lot of fun :)
sadly, real estate is so costly, have not the square footage, in this 95422, 6th street home~ am disabled, my shop and career are gone, but you impressions are kindred, as fixing everything is my specialty~
I think you should leave the radar tube in it and put it back into the cabinet that way. It would make a great prop for a horror movie set.
after watching for so long, I finally had to look up what "décolleté" means. it means "having a low cut neckline".
That looks like P7 phosphor. The same kind used for RADAR tubes of the time! I have a 5FP7 tube I made a circuit for displaying vector graphics on. It's a beautiful color combination. It uses a fast blue phosphor on the back and a yellow/green phosphor on the front for the persistence.
I have a 10SP7 I think it is, it works on 10BP4 sets. Same fast blue and long green. I was thinking of making an ultrasound scanner with it. I took two transducers and mounted them on a mechanical sweeping arm to an oscilloscope and it will show if a metal yard stick is in front of it to about 15 feet. Then I would need the up and down sweep to get a full image. I don't know though tests had pretty crude results.
@@SoundsLegit71 I as thinking of doing something similar since it's now an XY scope. Right now it just receives audio files from a raspi that are generated using a program I wrote called imagetovectwave
They're easier to burn-in than short persistence phosphors, so it's not the most ideal as a test tube
@@EdgarsLS I added a circuit just because of that actually. The circuit monitors the X and Y inputs and if there is no signal it turns the beam off.
Motorola engineers design things a little differently to avoid RCA patents. Quite often a challenge to repair. Many bumble-
bee and old waxy capacitors to fail or have failed. Two thumbs way up on the fella who sent you some components and
a real nice B&K model 890 cap meter! 👍👍
Those P7 CRT's usually had a deep orange filter on the front to dim the blue-white flash and pass the orange afterglow. I may still have a 5FP7 or two from a couple of dismantled microwave spectrum analyzers. They needed a slow sweep speed to trace out fine spectrum details. Amazing devices but the size of a console TV.
There were P12 orange phosphor radar CRTs.
Those Paper capacitors get leaky because of moisture that gets into them, the older beeswax caps usually don't leak because the beeswax is softer and doesnt crack as often.
I have tried repairing old paper caps, boiling the moisture off in wax which took about 4 hours, afterwards the caps tested perfectly with no leakage.
Yes you can boil those caps with boiling them in wax, but only if the were wax impregnated. Most of the times (at least on European sets), the caps were in glass tubes and sealed with tar (bitumen) that gets really hard and cracks. Those cannot be saved...
Also sometimes the paper ingresses so much moisture that it physically expands and cracks the glass tubes... some caps were even put in metal boxes that were then sealed with tar. I've seen those expand so much the metal failed and cracked
*This is Truly an Art!* Raising the Spirits to come forward after years of life under Dust.
Shapeshifter style of view, luring vocabulary; A Total TRIP, _magnates,_ your Focus connection.
Two Shango videos in one day? Super cool.
20:48 Dead spider stuck on flyback transformer looks like facehugger from Aliens 😄
"...permananently retired into the incinerator." LMAO! Thank you for brightening up my day. Great job on this oddball set especially with the experimental use of a energised focus coil, and radar CRT. Interesting application of a mechanically adjustable LOPT/flyback transformer to control width.
Two Shango066 videos in one day? WOO HOO!!!!
That long-persistence phosphor CRT, is very cool!
You MacGyver like I MacGyver! You had me rolling with the focus coil with a variac shunt supplied from the field coil supply. The picture on the radar tube was all worth it. Keep up the great work.
It's all about ' make it go in time for the evening news '
I used to play with tvs and didn't know diddley squat. Now I still don't know squat but I wish I had known the squat I know now back when I had a bunch of junk to play with.
I would love to still have that 1949 spartan mirror - on - lid , I would be all over it changing out everything.
Wow, I didn't think you were going to get any kind of image on there but you pulled it off. Good work.
This might be the coolest thing I’ve ever seen someone do with antique electronics! Very neat. What a great reward for your efforts
As a California native, does Columbo wearing a raincoat year round make any sense whatsoever?
Yes because it fit the look.
Coincidentally Columbo is now on tv as I am writing this 😂
Where would he keep his cigars, raisins, candy, clues, etc.?
52:25 actually im really good at fixing 50's 60's BW sets and learnt from here....cant learn anything with bob anderson, he just changes every out of spec resistor and cap...if an amateur does that, there is very slim chance the set will ever work again...i learn how the set works little by little from watching videos like this and also reading books about tv receiver servicing
I’m in love! 2 Shango videos at the same time….winning tonight. ❤👌🏼
So trippy & cool with the green glowage on that little round CRT. Does remind you of those glow sticks.
It's is a lot of fun seeing TV pictures on a radar tube, also love your solution on the focusing. Thank you for all the great content!
The A.I. doesn't calculate me
I lost it there
Video latency a stoners delight! Maybe the burnt spot on the fly back coil was the spider that got cooked...
That's a pretty cool radar CRT! It was probably originally intended to be used by NORAD and the Pentagon for detecting incoming Soviet nuclear ICBMs.
A modern TV picture in a radar display tube, the most fallout thing i ever seen in real life
Skills beyond measure. Way to go Shango!
Cool radar tube!
Amazing that you got a pretty good picture even with that radar tube and minimal capacitor changes.
Great entertainment, would love to see it back together and running!
The final result is fantastic.
It is a great study with several important details.
Very good !
still love your videos they're stlll my dinner meals and bed time stories. btw hey from Ottawa, Ontario Canada!
I’ve built a TV glitch box I’d ❤ to use with that Radar tube…👍
I wish you were closer. I would get it. Someone in SoCal will be happy to have this. Thanks.
When your money is good you feel good.
So true.
Kool video to watch on my Saturday Morning with coffee, got up and was just excited to enjoy one of my favorite show The Shango channel always something new to learn and nice humor too you don't that extra bonus on other channels either it was a great experience to watch wish I could get that TV but too far to go to drive down there. Thanks for sharing this me and wow girl friendly jeans too. thanks Mike you made my day.
Thank you sir, appreciate the content.
The medicare bit was funny. Thanks for the awesome video!
I would love to see a clip from Dr. Strangelove on that CRT!
Thank you so much for your videos! 👍
A fascinating resurection. I have a thing for Motorola. I remember a few Motorola products from long ago that were, well, above average all around imo.
Another great upload, thanks. And those low flying planes just love buzzing over your place don't they.
First time I ever heard you laugh out loud but is kinda funny .....cheers.
Cool tube ....some artistic shot there !!!!
That capacitor sorting meter is very interesting to me. In the 1980s. I work for a company that did active filters using LM1458 OP AMPS,and we sorted 820 pF capacitors using a similar but cheaper meter.
Two videos in one day? Very cool. The radar CRT was very cool to see with a video signal.
Who needs shrooms when you have long persistance phoshpor (get me my LPPs). Ghosts in the machine man.
Actually, that AI got it spot-on: it figured out that it can’t sell you anything, so it promptly hung up.
Excellent video thank you!
Well Done, as always!
Shango066, with that radar CRT, it makes you wonder how much X radiation is being emitted by it. Gotta be off the charts.
i love the radar crt! the high voltage tube had a lot of green corrosion ;-)
That's a great job buddy 👍
@shango066, you're having wayyyyy too much fun! 🤣😂
That tube has two phosphor coatings. The "White" one is normal persistence, they add a yellow one for the long persistence, maybe as you said, radar likely the use for it (they do use these kinds of CRTs for that reasons, to make an image from a rotating line).
Using a radar tube to watch TV, now that is innovative. Nice
Just like a WOLED at low brightness 🔅 😮, thanks for the video
You are a GENIUS!!
Really cool crt! I'm amazed that you get all this crap running. "Stay free"!
Learned a new word today ... "nastacular" (but no 🐀 nest in the TV though).🤔
If you can obtain 6P1P, make an adapter for the octal 6V6. Same tube, much lower prices and many stockpiles of brand new ones in the former USSR. There's also the chinese 6P1 clone of the 6P1P. The military version (6П1П-EB / 6P1P-EV) should be a fairly decent as an inexpensive replacement, while the non "EV" version or the chinese ones should be a decent throwaway test tube as they are very cheap.
That RADAR CRT is awesome.
Resurrection is much much more interesting to me than restoration. Restoring these is just a matter of hucking parts at it until it works and that's just not the right way to do things.
Edit: really cool to see that 6AX4 doing it's thing
Excellent stuff m8
The ultimate vintage gaming CRT, same type the PDP-1 used to play Spacewar in 1962. The animation programs they made were pretty mesmerizing on that thing.
The smearing in the picture reminds me a lot of the old tube cameras
I thank you for the 'double shot' today.
That was impressive!
Those of us in this hobby are fortunate that Phosphorus coatings inside these old crt's are very durable. Imagine if they degraded after 15 years well that would be it for the hobby.
Beware the potential Motorola Menace: Motorola was famous for using Autotransformers. I would rather they just had used a series string in there so your guard is up from the get-go.
That metal shield on the CRT may have been because it originally used that antenna in the ceiling of the cabinet
The James Dean era CRT. Looks really cool
That’s just a 60s thing, my dad did that up till 2010, he was the same age as Falk. He had a couple old hats too, and sometimes wore those, many men were NOT trendy lol.
Since WWII resistors for the most part followed the E system, for what ever reason capacitors hung on to the old (RMA) system for years after. I have a few hundred .047 630V boxes for you if you want them (Private message to follow)...Caveat being they are PC mount with short legs.
The same with me, I will continue to be an electronic technician until I can't do anything, anymore!
1:10:57 Everyone loves a good amoeba wash!!
6K6s and 6F 6s are in that family too.
That phosphor would instantly restore anyone’s declate and erase anyone’s crepes.
That radar CRT looks like it could be turned into a very cool Fallout-esque computer terminal.
You can probably opt for a current production JJ 6v6. I have one in my guitar amp. Some say it's more like a "6VL6" as a joke. Other words, in between like that 6W6 you're describing.
You probably take your expertise for granted but wow dead chassy, radar tube, make shift focus ring and voila TV!
That must be an absolute dream set for Fallout fans.
Danny DeVito has vertical problems, too.
That high latency phosphor latency effect looks a lot like a filter you can apply to VLC media player, I think it's called motion blur
I burst out laughing here 9:43 😂
I have a 1951 AMC console tv that has kind of the same sort of crt and appearance. I also has at least the 2nd crt in it that is also just about done.
12:00 - it’s like comet tailing on 1980s TV shows and music videos.