How the Israel-Gaza Crisis Is Dividing American Jews | Amanpour and Company
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- As American Jews face an unprecedented surge in antisemitism, they are also grappling with division in their own communities. The debate over support for Israel is playing out among Jews across the country, with some calling for a ceasefire while others unequivocally back the Israeli government. Journalist and author Emily Tamkin explains this moment of division and highlights the importance of listening to one another during this period of pain and grief.
Originally aired on November 13, 2023
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Any attempt to equate criticism of Israel as being antisemitic is simply wrong.
in my opening...when antisemitism is weaponized wrongly as you have articulated..that itself foments antisemitism.
And highly manipulative.
@@AbuSous2000PRPalestinians are Semites too
I've been saying for years that it's not only wrong, but dangerous. Antizionist Jews are being drowned out of the conversation; called "pick me"s or "self-hating Jews" so that people can be comfortable with not engaging with valid criticisms of Israel.
So, how are Black people supposed to feel about white people, then?
The frist victim of racism in the US over Gaza war was six year boy
Correct. A Muslim child was killed.
i didn't mean that all I didn't bring up Muslim at all but you know who it was a 6 year old@@user-fy7qo2qj7d
many Muslim clildren@@cwill1223
very sad, but it wasn't done by a Jewish person.
@@auburnt2009 Arabs, Muslims, and pro-Palestinians fear Zionist violence -- not men in yarmulkes who don't eat shrimp.
Criticism of Netanyahu and the policy of Dispossession of Palestinian land is not antisemitism. That point seems to get lost in the discussion. Too many knee-jerk opinions on display in media.
Most Jewish people I know have been supporting a free Palestine for as long as I can remember.
@@markgreen4612 most decent fair-minded people I know would agree. Unfortunately a segment of Israeli society ( settlers) seem hellbent on a course of ethnic cleansing the West Bank. That's really the only issue most people have with Israel right now. We have the same problem here in America with the Republican party and Christian nationalists. Who have been historically antisemitic. Despite their claims to the contrary.
@@seanbrennan9188 One serious challenge is that most of us, most of the time, are having trouble putting those big, multi-faceted rocks in conversations first. We have to clear out the brush of imprecise and emotional language to get to the humanistic core on which all normal humans agree.
Some of this is baked into the IHRA definition of antisemitism, which many governments around the world have adopted.
Mosaic Jews, Hebrews, Palestinians, Muslims, Arabs all belong to the SEMITIC groups. What do these commenters are directing to when they say: You are anti-semitc?
Palestinians are not only feeling fear, they are feeling terror, despair, rage, anger....
Yes, Palestinians are being bombed 24/7 and if you survive then starved and denied water and medical treatment.
For more than half a century of fear, terror, despair, rage, anger, and the list goes on, from the oppression and occupation.
Yes.
As are Israelis and Jews all over the world.
A contest of Who Is More Victimized accomplishes nothing.
We must acknowledge all pain and seek compromises that minimize it.
Free the hostages!
Very true. This woman is too glib and careless in her assessment of the crimes being committed against Palestinians.
I appreciate her honesty and clarity. The Israeli government does not represent the views of every Israeli citizen or every Jewish person. I appreciate those who speak up against the wrongs on both sides.
You are correct..the Israeli government doesn't represent every Jewish person or every Israeli Jew. But you cannot deny that it is democratically elected and only a handful of Jews (Americans or not) who spoke against its apartheid Palestinians before and after Oct. 7th
Israel till I die!
Equivocation is not a virtue. And there is no apartheid in Israel. There is in Gaza. First go to Israel and tell everybody you are Muslim - nobody will care. Go to Gaza and claim to be Jewish. Then you will be an expert in what is wrong with both sides.
@@AbuSous2000PR Look up the word apartheid Abu. Sentences left to right, take Tylenol for headaches.
@@rhyslucero1400 literally every single major human rights organization recognizes Israel as an apartheid state. These include...
Human Rights Watch
Amnesty International
The U.N.
Etc...
Many Jewish human rights organizations agree, such as:
B'Tselem
HaMoKed
Mashsom Watch
Zazim
Ir Amim
Association for Human Rights in Israel
Breaking the Silence
Peace Now
And many, many more...
On top of all that, you have many notable Israeli figures saying the same thing, including:
Tamir Pardo - former head of Israel's Mossad intelligence agency
Amos Goldberg - leading professor of the Holocaust at Hebrew University in Jerusalem
Israel's Law Professors Forum - representing 120+ Israeli law professors
Daniel Levy - Israeli negotiator
Yehudit Karp - former Israeli deputy AG
Michael Benyair - former Israeli AG
And the list goes on and on and on...
But yeah, you, a random person on RUclips says otherwise so it must not be true.
THANK YOU - this is the CORRECT and fair rhetoric and type of discussion should be amplified. !!!!!
I am an American not-jew, and yet much of what she says resonates with me, particularly the parts about being raised to believe that Israel belonged to jews by right, and every right-thinking person should support that, and also the feeling that criticizing Israel or supporting Palestine is a dangerous thing to do in my community.
the Nazis had schools that taught kind of the same thing
I strongly disagree , isreal can be given to the jews because has a biblical matter we don't settle land disputes by looking in the bible , the American colonist had same ideology when it came to manifest destiny . Isreal is a settler colonial apartheid state to say we shouldn't citizens it just because it's s jewish one is disgusting and would be like not wanting to citizens americo liberia rule out of fear of being called anti blk , we should always support colonized people facing ethnic cleansing as I would say the same during ww2 and the pograms ,why would I change my mind if the oppressor in this instance is jewish ?
Free Palestine🇵🇸
Nonsense, Osama. Same nonsense, different century. LMAO!@@yassine8935
Sadly since 1948 and Israel became a state, the stripping of Palestinians from their land began where before Jews and Arabs lived peacefully with each other, watched each other's children. Most people realize there are in every tribe good, bad and ugly people, it is important to always keep that in mind. I do think you need to look harder at who has a right by looking more into all sides with an open mind and heart, for it is truth that we should all be seeking.
Gasman are Humus,Humus are Gazan
Wow, if only mainstream media outlets were putting out this kind of content. Maybe society wouldn’t be so divided. I hope to see and hear much more from this insightful, articulate young lady
She works for CNN and broadcasts on PBS, she's about as mainstream as you can get.
Amanpour is a mainstream Jew hater.@@scottkrater2131
@@scottkrater2131 Amanpour, has been a pro-Isreal and anti-Muslim shill for many, many years !
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As someone who sympathizes greatly with the plight of the Palestinians, I was so touched emotionally to see so many Jewish people coming out to help protest the Gaza bombardment. All of Israel may be scared right now, but yet, there are many jews there who would rather live in peace with the Palestinians if they could. Right now though, Hamas and Netanyahu, as well as the Israeli far-right, seem to want to make that impossible.
Netanyahu has one goal, and that is the taking of all Palestinian land and destroying its people that he doesn't even see as human! He is a Genocidal psychopath and he deliberately brought Hamas to Palestine so he wouldn't have to deal with the PLO and a two state solution. There are many good Jews who know this and stand for a two state solution, so I stand with them and the good people of Palestine. Suggest you look here in RUclips for Professor Norman Finkelstein, his ability to see both sides is quite inspiring.
Exactly. Israel/Palestine are ruled by Fascists on both sides. Neither one wants the two-state solution, which has weirdly sometimes put them on the same side. The Israeli and Palestinian peole who want peace are also on the same side.
Excellent, thoughtful, and eloquent conversation. Thank you for featuring Emily.
Anti Israel isn't antisemitism.....
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We need to support human rights and the application of international law.
Israel has cried “ anti- semitism” every time some one criticizes them, it is no wonder that some people blame the actions of Israel on the whole Jewish religion. Israel is not the Jews, Hamas are not the Palestinians. Criticism of Israel is not anti Semitism.
Israelis who protest Netanyahu's leadership are surely not antisemitic. What are Gazans who protest Hamas's leadership?
Trying to stay alive.
@@ohallright2021 likely dead. It’s a shame that these victims are portrayed as somehow guilty.
So how come you don't like Jewish people? What's your excuse?
Criticism of Israel is not anti Semitism. Correct. Deligitimisation of Israel however is incontrovertibly anti-Semitic. Obvious difference.
This discussion feels like i can stop holding my breath. Thank you
Thank you so much for acknowledging and highlighting the fact that Gaza is going through hell, and that Muslim Americans are experiencing great fear as are American Jews during this genocide.
There appears to be rampant genocide of logic within the Islamo-Marxist camp. They have fabricated their own vocabulary in true Soviet tradition.
It's no secret which side of the argument tolerates and gives carte blanche to hate: I haven't seen one - not a single instance - of an Islamaphobic action tolerated or perpetrated by organised Israel supporters - in contrast to the criminal harassment and threats levelled openly at Jews..so please, repatriate your deranged, transparent and pathetic shot at equivocation to the appropriate orifice.
@@user-fy7qo2qj7d I don't support Hamas . IDF claimed this type of things in 2009 and 2014 too . But they didn't present any solid evidence till now . And I don't think 50% of the Gaza housing units which destroyed by IDF are Hamas base .
Yep. Anti-Muslim hate is never given the same attention.
Do mainstream Jewish organisations promote or even condone Islamophobia - or is it vice versa?
I appreciate this woman's very thoughtful outlook. May her voice be well heard.
I'm ethnically 90 percent Irish, born in the US. I had a few Jewish friends growing up on the East Coast. I was raised Catholic. I had protestant friends, too. No big deal. We just wanted to ride bikes and play baseball.
When I got older and moved to the western US, I had several Jewish girlfriends and became, by accident, part of a Jewish community. All of my Jewish girlfriends had parents with pretty interesting stories. So, I was absorbed in that community, but few of us thought about Judaism much at all. Some Jewish friends even made occasional Jewish jokes, which I never did and never understood antisemitism.
With today's conflict, I'm critical of Israel, which I always strongly supported. I'm critical online only, since I see no reason to upset certain friends. Ironically, I've been called antisemitic and ignorant several times. In response, I say those accusations are juvenile, simple minded and no longer work on me. I will continue to respond that way, and encourage others to do the same.
I'm afraid many Jews, including TV "journalists," are behaving in self righteous, arrogant ways. That is not helping Jews, and only will strengthen antisemitics and create even more.
That truth highlights a value I've found useful from de-escalation training received for street protests. Particularly in these times of heightened division and siloing fostered by social media platforms' commerce-serving programming code, we can often defuse knee-jerk reactivity by first acknowledging the party's sense of justice and, in this case, inherited historical trauma, then pivoting to the nuances of the issue which let them see who the real enemy is. My go-to pivot on this is the difference between leadership decisions and the will and needs of the people on both sides. One sad difference between Israelis and Palestinians is that Israelis can express their will without fear of reprisal. Of course, every rule has exceptions; a few instances of speech expression (about the war) have drawn potentially draconian punishments. In the U.S., we had Manzanar. War is always hell.
Please spare us with your “some of my friends are Jewish” lies. You’re just a plain old Jew hater. Am Yisrael chai!!
Wow! What a profound, intelligent and heart-felt interview. I wanted to listen to her some more when the interview ended...and then realized! I'd just subscribed to the WashPost. I need a lot more of Emily in my intellectual life, and I'll be getting it.
Thank you! What a lovely and loving person.
It's not just Islamophobia. A six year old, innocent little boy was fatally stabbed by a racist hater of humanity, their landlord. The child was a Palestinian.
That attack had nothing to do with that boy being a Palestinian.
It had everything to do with the child being Palestinian!
@@davidreidenberg9941 [The attack is now being investigated by the Department of Justice as a hate crime.
“This incident cannot help but further raise the fears of Muslim, Arab, and Palestinian communities in our country with regard to hate-fueled violence,” US Attorney General Merrick Garland said in a statement.]
-CNN
@@stephensaines7100 great. Now name one other anti Muslim incident in the U.S. in the last 6 weeks.
So the Jews that saw the horrors of what Hamas did to the 1700 jews on Oct 7 and are scared is Islamophobia? No it is what happened and the reality.
Great interview! I feel we all need to remember our humanity. I support the Palestinians because of the way Israel has treated them. Now that does not mean I am anti Jewish. I am really pleased that there are some Jewish people against this war and support Palestinians. There is no one people better than another.
This is a lesson to all, what a far-right government is capable of. Despicable behaviour fuelled by hate!
At least Palestine has never engaged in despicable behavior fueled by hate.
At least the Hamas founding document does not call for the elimination of the Jewish people.
Oh wait
It does.
You don’t know any real Jews do you? The vast majority of us are proud Zionists. And if you don’t like that, too damn bad!
I come from a family that was one of the only Jewish families in the town i grew up in in upstate New York. We lived in the middle of the woods, and about a mile down the dirt road from us there was a gun club which we suspected, and later understood it to be true, that the kkk operated out of. But in the middle of nowhere that gun club, to me as a kid, being a mile away might as well have been in another county. I would still walk all day everyday through the woods with my dog. It was the place i loved the most, the deep woods. One day i was walking in a part of the woods i rarely walked in, it was across a street and was unclear where the property lines were over there. But this day i was feeling adventurous and walked out of earshot, down a path, over a hill, around a shale cliff, all in all probably 1/8 of a mile until i came up on all these no trespassing signs. I was 10 so i passed them and almost immediately was looking art the back of a two story house. And there in the back yard that was a giant flag pole with an enormous red flag flapping in the wind. I looked up trying to process what i was looking at. When it hit me that i was looking at a massive na$ee flag i spun around and ran home and frantically told my father. His jaw dropped when i explained where i was because it was the home of one of our town’s cops. A man we had to interact with regularly. A man who we know was the law and 100% had access to an arsenal.
We were basically surrounded - the kkk behind us at a literal gun club, a na$ee cop to our right, in the middle of 200 acres of woods. For my entire childhood. Who knows all the flags in all the houses beyond my 10 year old walking distances!
It breaks my heart to hear that im not jewish when im called out for fighting for a free Palestine. I wonder, would these same people who tell me im not jewish, or worse, that im a jew-hater, claim me as a fellow jew if me and my family, who all have been fighting the israeli apartheid, had been killed by these people who were surrounding our house growing up? I bet they would have.
To me that sounds like theyre saying, at least when it comes to me and my family, that the only good j is a dead j. And that feels very antisemitic.
SUCH a wise discussion regarding just how nuanced and complex this situation is for so many! Thank you SO much for airing this! So incredibly important. Great work!
Thanks for tuning in. We appreciate you!
It's neither nuanced nor complex. You have right and wrong, and it's extremely black and white here. Israel has turned into its prior oppressors
H.L. Mencken, on quick fixes, “Every complex problem has a solution which is simple, direct, plausible - and wrong.”
Rejection of apartheid and occupation is not antisemitism
....And rejection of Islamists and their murder is not Islamophobia right?
@@aaronfriedman8201 who is rejecting Islam ??? Not me , read again my friend 👀
Amazing writer! Thank you for hosting her.
Thank you for this conversation. And thank you to Michelle Martine for allowing time to explore feelings. There is so much more than….good/bad or right/wrong. But social media pushes towards a black & white conclusion which is hardly ever right.
Actually, there isn't "so much more, " and none of this is rocket science... If you're a decent human being, then you should feel disconcerted about 5000 children having been MURDERED!!! That is not a "complexity" ... If you're a decent human being, then "good/bad" isn't difficult to figure out here... Let me help you out ... your focus in all of this is VERY SIMPLE .... THIS CARPET BOMBING HAS TO STOP FORTHWITH!!! FREE PALESTINE!!!! Everything else is BULLSHIT!!! Not complex at all, and there's no, "so much more" about any of this!!!!!!
Begin with, "What does it mean to be human?" It's the only "real" thing that we are.
This is not the first time that significant numbers of Diaspora Jews have disagreed with Israeli (Zionist) policies. There has been serious Jewish dissent from the beginning.
Apparently, ultra-Orthodox Jews feel that Zionism distracts from the undisturbed practice of religion. This type of religiosity frustrates and hampers humanity from the existential effort to overcome its current limitations.
This is different. Yes, it is.
What an excellent interview. Kudos to Michele Martin. And this was a lot of new information and analysis for me. This sounds like a book that a college professor may put on their reading list, even if it has been said already. This seems to be a very fresh and detailed and thoughtful analysis.
“The biggest insult to the memory of the Holocaust is not denying it, but using it as an excuse to commit genocide against the Palestinian people
“ - Norman Finkelstein.
“Most Zionists don’t believe that God exists, but they do believe that he promised them Palestine.” - Ilan Pappe (Israeli historian)
She is such a skilled, smart, thoughtful interviewer, and always has conversations with those equal. It feels almost cleansing to listen to such a discussion after the schlock we get bombarded with. I feel a little bit more civilized, a little more informed, and I'm glad.
My Jewish friends are being brave. Speaking out and educating. They are afraid, but they are brave simultaneously.
Perhaps some of us are unaware that your Jewish friends are committing a crime against humanity by pretending to be Israelites ie Shemites ie E1B1A ie Black people. You don't think a book that starts with Genesis ie human origins is about so-called white people do you?
Educating?
It is so refreshing to hear these words of sanity in what seems to be a world gone completly crazy
.... POWER and BLESSINGS to the vocal Jewish Peace Activists.
I am completely confused why if you oppose War, or the concept of collective punishment, or opposing colonialism or racism by what is going on in Israel and Palestine is immediately termed "anti Semetic" or hatred of Jews.
Israel is a State, it has a government and it's government has its own policy for it's people.
For me, killing or waging war on innocent people by any government is horrific and insane, and ultimately only results in more hatred and bloodshed.
People have to get to the point that "all human life and lives are valuable and all human beings deserve the right to exist and live in peace.
Its Jews dude, you cant trust them. All of these are acting, Stealing peoples lands killing babies and then having the audacity to call Hamas "Terrorist" lol The Jews specially supporting Israel are the real terrorists
Ive seen many You Tube videos where the Jewish people say they are the chosen ones. I’ve also seen a lot of former Israeli soldiers saying that they were taught to look at the Palestinians as sub human. ( even taught that as young kids). The atrocities that the Israelis soldiers had to commit against the Palestinians were hard to listen to…killing and torture on the Palestinians. So, when you have to combination of the Jewish people thinking they are the chosen ones…maybe it’s hard to have empathy for the Palestinians and can commit genocide and apartheid against them for 75 years.
I don't think anyone is saying simply being critical of Israeli government is antisemitic- but antizionism, and saying that it is not antisemitism, is different.
@@msbluejay3Yes,and they are not chosen anyways.
Wonderfully calm, lucid, and perspective. Love how measured you are in respecting ever-evolving perspectives and the need to talk and question without bad-mouthing and over generalizing.
Thank you Amily for being brave. It's very well said. You shall not be afraid 😢. Much respect for you you
I like this woman. Smart and less stuck in identification than many Jews. Intelligent and wise woman.
She is as wise as you. Most of the murdered were peace activists. They seemed to have gotten NO consideration. There are people who are brought up to hate and murder and they could not care what you think.
@@aaronfriedman8201
My friend, you need to recover from your personal trauma and hopefully explore why this crisis is going on and has been going on for decades with no end in view.
Of course, you are free to hate Hamas and call them by all sorts of names.
You are free to overlook your own hatred and project it onto others.
Many people are playing the blaming game. People play the blaming game in their marriages, in their work relationships, everywhere.... It is an escape mechanism.
It doesn't bring you the peace you seek.
take a look.
Thank you for this interview 👏
As a child in grade school a new girl who wanted to be my friend asked what Nationality I was. I said I was part German. She said she had to ask her parents if she could be friends with me because she wasn't supposed to be friends with German people. I was about 11. I look forward to the time when people aren't taught by their parents their culture to label people as enemies. But when you make grievance central to your being you never get past it. Israelis and Palestinians have done it for decades, Jews and Muslims for centuries. Neither side will allow the other to live the way they do in peace on their own land.
I watched the documentary on You Tube called “ Parents reaction when Jewish and Arab children meet”. Near the end you will see that the Arab girl and the Jewish girl want to continue as friends, but the Jewish family said that she couldn’t because she was a chosen one ( all Jewish people are the chosen people…I didn’t know that) and she couldn’t communicate with the anyone but Jewish kids. I did not realize that Jewish people called themselves the chosen ones and had no idea before watching this documentary that Jewish kids are told to only play and be friends with other Jewish kids. I had heard where Jewish families will excommunicate with a family member if they marry a non Jew.
Sad and wrong though not universal. Religious extremism is the cause of so much suffering and evil in the world. Amazing how there are so many different "chosen" people who say the same. My Dad was Catholic my Mom Protestant he was told he shouldn't date, couldn't marry her. She converted but still I don't know if they were able to marry in the Church. He later switched to Protestant. I had a Baptist as a teacher who told me if you're not baptized you don't go to heaven. I asked what if you're a baby and he said doesn't matter unbaptized babies go to purgatory. I always thought what kind of God would damn a baby only loving some not others. Not one I'd believe in.
Excellent interview! Thank you for speaking out in such a constructive way. As a (happen to be secular) American Jew, i learned a critical Jewish teaching is that one must make an effort to understand and ameliorate others' pain.
Hmmm, say more. I appreciate the interviewer and her questions. This is the second interview of hers I’ve watched where I’ve been impressed.
I feel for this lady. Walking on egg shell while explaining the obvious to an audience with an emotional maturity of a 9 years old narcissist toddler(And no, i am not talking about Jews, i am talking about Pro Israel folks, regardless of their religion)
Ezra Klein expressed "shame" a few weeks ago about how critics of the Israeli government, like him, threw up their hands and "detached" from the Palestinian issue.
My cat is a better Jew then self hating Ezra Klein. What a pathetic pos
Understandably...but too many people have. If we can't resolve this, we don't need to go to space and drag our bs with us.
Well said.
Very mature and thoughtful lady. She sees the big picture.
She is very similar to the type of peace activists that were murdered on OCT 7th.
You are a beautiful soul.
Thank you for this. It’s important that we all are aware of this. I’m in a very white, homogeneous area (upstate NY) where kids readily scrawl nazi signs around town.
This was *never* the case when I was in HS (90s) here. My 16 yr old sees it at school CONSTANTLY and there are zero Jewish students there, which may be why they are so emboldened?
We need to all stand up to this, EVERY TIME. Every mom, dad, person, bystander. It’s not acceptable.
This is a time where intelligence and intellect will rise to the surface.
Thank you.
The divide between Jews who understand that genocide is morally wrong and those who think it is just terrific. Such a divide...
thank you so much for this intelligent commentary! will share!
well put. nice to hear voices of moderation and nuance at this moment.
Thoughtful, compassionate and eloquent. Thank you.
I love the bravery and balance in this ladies thinking. British Jew Yuval Noah Harari said 'you can be victim and perpetrator at the same time' which I believe is very profound. We are encouraged at times by an overly simple and binary analysis of people and events in the media and by politicians. Reality is more complex with genuine fears, pain and grievances for all of us.
Extremely well thought out and spoken. Its important to remember that the Israeli government is responsible for these horrors, not the Jewish people themselves (especially non israeli jews). Its important that we dont silence these voices because diversity of thought and experience is the natural enemy of racist thinking.
Im baffled this wasnt taught in schools.
It always good to listen to intelligent people that care about everyone. We're all humans and we all should stick together. Everyone has the right to live in piece. Unfortunately, there are always those cannot benefit from poece and that's why we should say enough is enough and send that message loud and clear.
I agree Emily Tamkin, it's important for the Jewish people need to heal the deep deep generational trauma or the victim will become the perpetrator.
Right now Israel is creating fear and hate with this war.
I also thought religion is suppose to be about love and getting along and seeing self in another.
Religion arose out of efforts to understand a pre-science world. Like everything organized, it also attracts power seekers. I need to note, too, that, while fear and hate is coming out of Israel, it's principally coming from rhetoric and decisions made at the top - not by Israelis, so many of whom live and work with Arabs, as well as helping them with medical needs because they do see themselves in those friends.
What about the kids in GAZA
Thank you for great journalism where you assess all sides of a conflict and story with professionalism. I can’t watch any of the mainstream channels now just sensationalism. It must be hard for the Jewish community to live through the fear now. Let’s hope for a free Palestine we’re people can live in dignity and a peaceful Jewish community world wide. Hate only fosters more hate
Insane how criticism of the killings and endangerment of civilians is so controversial. It really breaks the illusion of a civilized western civilization and culture.
It is the enlightened steed like this intelligent and thoughtful lady that should provide hope for a troubled area of the world 😢
Israel is such a terrifying force of nature. We need to be able to criticize its actions, as we are with USA and Russia. Otherwise that fear and anger will be directed towards the Jews as a race instead.
Excellent interview. Going to order this book
When I was a young boy who knew nothing, I saw a picture of a swastika, an ancient symbol. My brother came in, watching me draw it and ripped it up. From that day forward, I learned what "never again" means, genocide should never happen again. It shouldn't happen to Israelis and it shouldn't happen to Palestinians. For that matter, it shouldn't happen to Ukrainians, to Uighurs in China, to Muslims living in India, to the Rohingya in Myanmar, to Eritrean Muslims, to the Yemenis or to anyone else.
And yet again, Jews are being told to "Stop being so dramatic! Stop making it all about you!" 🙄
But more importantly, we are being told NOT to reduce it to our fear. What do you want to reduce it to then?? Tell us! We may be ok with it! And, we may not! If you have experienced
Every form of ethnonationalism cultivates hatred of others. This is a great contribution.
My father didn't like Jews. He grew up in Poland in the 20s and 30s where that feeling was rife. I grew up in Canada and didn't know any Jews until my late teens. I had a Jewish girlfriend in Montreal for a while and learned that Jews were not much different from anyone else. The current situation in Gaza must be very difficult for North American Jews.
Thank you, Emily, for being open-minded. Unfortunately, all Jewish people will bear the guilt of this genocide against Palestinians, even though it's the Israelis committing it.
Occupation and Apartheid is the real reason.
I’m neither Jewish or Muslim, believe Israel has a right to exist and to defend itself and have zero hatred towards Jews, but that its treatment of Palestinians has been oppressive. How is it that I’m labelled anti semitic for thinking this, its not even anti Zionist?
Thank you!
What a sensible human being! very reflective
Thank you .
Antisemitism is a very real thing, but creating a whole movement let alone nation built on fear or defense from antisemitism, does not solve antisemitism. If anything it amplifies it, especially if obliterating other peoples is your way of defending your people.
I am wondering if you are considering a follow up along the lines of: “why the Gaza attack and Israeli retaliation divides the American Jewish community but does not appear to much divide the Palestinian American community ?“.
Stop the war!!!
Sounds like a reasonable person.
Interesting discussion...thanks!
LOVE IS THE SOURCE
PaulTeich 10/31/2023
This poem is about talking to God about love
Love is the source of all things
You are the source of all things
We can feel your love
Can you feel ours?
We can see examples of your power
Can you see ours?
Are ours destruction or planting flowers?
How do you view us from your ivory tower?
What keeps evil at bay?
Is it a spell and apple and leaf of bay?
Is it an old fashioned ruler who thinks she’s a Bey?
Or is it the simple acts of simple people taking care of each other day by day?
You have given us love to turn Earth into Eden
You let us know we were without true gnosis with the apple Adam had eaten
Letting us know we get intrinsic worth from giving a rib and not from beating
Please take away indifference, give us peace and make us care if everyone is eating
Love is the source
Whether it comes from you or me, love takes us to heaven on a winged horse
May peace, love and poetry save the world!!!
What's happening on Gaza can't not explained with word's, shame on the world seeing that happening and trying to cover it
Not another dime to Israel
I agree. All international aide to the Zionist government of Israel needs to end NOW. Israel's government has no regard for international law and should not be supported by the international community.
You see the Palestinians as distinct from Hamas.
But the people of Israel won’t get your help because …. Some right wing idiots let Netenyahu run the country.
Inconsistency anyone?
My issue as a Jew sympathetic to Palestinian innocents was that on day one, before there was even an Israeli response, some people didn’t waste a single beat to protest against Israel as a response to the newly Jewish dead. Countless non-Jews amongst my Facebook friends on that first day were calling out Israel and expressed no sympathy for the dead and their families. I have no issue with criticisms of governments, I have an issue when you feel the pain of one people and not for another.
Unfortunately America is a deeply Racist/Anti-Semitic Anti-Other than Whyt Qhristian Cuntry.
tRump only EXPOSED the Worst of the Worst.
Netenyahoo and his Likud Party Have To Be Stopped and ground into the dirt.
The Israeli People have been Marching and Protesting for Over a Year to Get Netenyahoo OUT.
NOT IN MY NAME!!!!!
Not friends I'd want - I immediately felt heartbroken for the Israelis and angry when I saw some people celebrating, then I immediately felt heartbroken for the Palestinians being killed and suffering - I always feel sorry for innocent victims and have no tolerance for anyone who has no empathy. I must say among my online friends I saw the opposite response. I had a lot who denied the people in Gaza were suffering dead claiming they were actors or worse deserved it - there was propaganda Israel put out saying they were fake. THAT really made me angry and I had to unfollow or block them. It was on both sides but I didn't have any friends who denied the Israeli deaths only the opposite. Ex friends.
Maybe because Palestinians have been dispossessed from everything, oppressed, raided, kidnapped and killed at Israeli-will for the last 75years....and when the Hamas attack happened on Oct 7th, while Israelis and their sympathizers saw in it a barbarian act, many others saw in it an act of defiance by the oppressed voiceless Palestinian raising and fighting back, and they cheered for that small act of defiance and resistance despite the approach being wrong (killing some civilians)! If you cannot understand why some pro-Palestinians people felt happy for the Hamas attack then you cannot sympathize with the Palestinian grievances in anyway! we could agree that targeting Civilians is wrong...but for Palestinian militants, what else can they target? they dont have F16, nor the fancy American weaponry that Israel has! they kidnapped an IDF soldier (Gilad Shalit), and have been called terrorist for doing so....Palestinians protested peacefully in their own Gaza territory few months earlier and have been killed by IDF snipers (and the world didn't give a shit)....now when they do the only thing that could attract attention to their cause, mounting a large scale attack which caused among other civilians casualties, you re not happy? remember that military service is mandatory in Israel, so many of these civilians have indded participated in enforcing the colonization and oppression of Palestinians! remember also that some of the civilian Israeli casualties have been killed by IDF itself, and not by Hamas. Anyway, while I dont agree with Hamas attack, I fully understand it...and cannot lecture Palestinians on how to fight back....if you really believe in the peaceful resistance, then go support BDS...if u really care!
@@salimaddi1513 Yes to all of this! And let's not forget to mention that Israel's involvement in those attacks was evident if not obvious from the beginning.
Great interview and very well put Emily. I can understand what your message is. Keep it up.
The clash between Jews with some semblance of humanity left and those with none. How does anti-semitism in the US compare with anti-Palestinian feelings in the West Bank?
How much do you think Anti-semitism might decline if Israel were to seek a real, just and non-violent settlement with the Palestinians rather than building illegal settlements on Palestinian land?
I would give anything yo hear this discussion but from the arab side. Anything
Agreed.
Watch more Amanpour. They've been bringing folks from both sides daily since Oct. 7, and they have plenty of relevant historical interviews online as well.
Google search.
You’ll find it.
Really easy.
Combatting antisemitism would require addressing the hate defined in doctrine of a few morally broken religions. All they need is an event to trigger the rise in hatred. We keep focusing on the events, not the root problem.
Semite refers to arab language??
@ justoneman 3916 When Jewish people & Arabs lived under the Ottoman rule for many centuries, they managed to lived along side each other fine, so if what you'er saying is true, then that couldnt happen, so how would you explain it?
@@itseveryday8600 it’s true there were centuries when jews were considered second class citizens and not systematically murdered. Sultans ruled with an iron fist. That changed in the 1800’s when there was a reformation to create equality between muslims and non-muslims which led to an uprising and subsequently started a string of massacres of jews. All it takes is a sick minded religious leader and the problems start.
@@peaceearth3961 language of decedents of Shem (son of Noah). Genesis 10:21-31.
Interestingly, there was a time when antisemitism was ignited by establishment Jewish support for Germany prior to 1918. Most establishment Jews were German-American and most poor or lower middle class-class Jews were refugees from Czarist Russia Empire.
Do you have a interview with the mom stabbed and her six year son is killed in front of her with 26 times stabbed
A lot of jews are anti islamic,anti christian in the first place..time to be honest with yourselves😢❤
Stop the genocide
I think everyone should realize that most groups have had racial hate directed at them. Try to put yourself in other people's shoes. I'm glad you offered this perspective. I pray for all innocent lives from all marginalized communities.
Wow! I am glad she thinks and articulates the crisis of U.S. Jewish ambivalence.
Everyone should be, and feel safe, regardless of what ethnicity, religion, gender, or whatever you are.
Anti Semitism, and all forms of prejudice mostly comes from ignorance, however, there are those who are anti Semites, racists and bigoted, because of hate.
Saying that anti Semitism is on the rise is not exactly true, because, in the light of the situation at hand, there are many protesters, or others with opinions, wrongly being accused of being anti Semitic and even called "Hamas supporters," while there are many Jewish people who have joined the protests for exactly the same reason others did, and do.
And there is another side to the coin as well.
And that is the extremely manipulative Israeli lobby.
People's careers have been ruined because they refused to be manipulated directly, and/or indirectly by the Israeli lobby.
That is, of course extremely undemocratic, to say the least, and therefore also un American.
People on both sides are sometimes quick to jump on a bandwagon, and lose perspective of what is truth and what is right(ious).
Think how frightened no ! Terrified Palestinians feel right now!!! Free Palestine 🇵🇸
At least Israel is not terrified
Oh wait
They are.
American Jews have always been divided. The religious Jews have much distain for Zionist Jews, who seem to be Jews in name only, or when it benefits them. Unfortunately, it's the extremes of religions that cause problems. I've said for many years that the Zionists in Israel would cause the religious people great harm. Sadly, I think we will soon all see just how much trouble.
Like Trump Netanyahu has tried to make HIM representative not only to being Israeli but to being Jewish. You can't be American if you don't like Trump. You can't be Israeli or Jewish if you don't support Netanyahu. That's what Autocrats do. Netanyahyu had a huge role in the attacks on Israel. Israelis were protesting him now they are protesting to back him. Same as the Mullahs Iranians were protesting them, some Gazans protested Hamas starting a few years ago not that Israelis will admit it they like to paint every man woman and child not even born the last election and Hamas - now people are protesting in support of Hamas and Iran. Those who caused this are benefiting from it - most of all Russia, who Netanyahu supported.
Starting from 15:20...Emaily stated that "American Jews created a version of Israel that is divorced from reality"...This is a VERY nice way of saying American Jews are lying to defend Israel.
How lying doesn't foment "antisemitism"? Note I am using quotes since most American Jews have equated anti-Zionism with antisemitism (something that evolved only in the last 2+ decades), and expect me to love rather than hate those who dispossessed & replaced me! It is stunning how American Jews in mass are engaged in a feedback loop that is a self-defeating strategy.
Honestly, I cannot agree with Emily more; we've researched this point at Palestine Remembered. American Jews repeat big ridiculous lies about Palestine & its people that Zionist Jews in Israel abandoned a long time ago, and Ms. Tamkin is correct: it all evolved after the 67 & 73 wars, but why not before? This is a BIG mystery! I hope she can elaborate on this timing; I have found no one tackling this point.
Anyhow, let's hope the American Jewish community does gang upon her as they did to Hannah Arendt after she exposed the KAPO files in 1963 during Eichmann's trial. They have very little tolerance to dissent.
I have to watch this interview several time
Many thanks Amanpout & Co
Your initial premise is incorrect. Have a great day
I guess I am divorced from reality as some people!@@chuckm1961 have a nice day😉
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She hit the nail on the head.......................................................People are divorced what Israel is and what it is like on the ground. My personal experience, living out in the M.E and being an eyewitness to the injustices Israel inflicts on Palestinians, was a wakeup call to my own moral compass.
This led me to research Israel's background. Not using Jewish resources, but Palestinian, which to my horror I opened a pandora's box of shocking crimes Israel had/has inflicted since 1947. The Palestinians lived in a peaceful, thriving society, with excellent infrastructure. There were booming export markets, busy ports, railways which weaved its way down to Egypt and to Mecca. The university was the vision of a Palestinian woman who was known in the intellectual and artistic circles. Shops were stocked with goods from far away as Europe, India and China, The Palestinians had festivals, poetry recitals, art fairs, singing contests, fashion draped the bustling rural centres, such as Jaffa, Haifa and Jerusalem. The many cafes served Turkish coffee, sweets, which locals played board games, listened to live music and storytelling. There were many industries including metallurgy, soap, furniture, oil refineries (which came from Iraq), leather factories, arts and craft industries, large farms, orchards, beautiful residences as modest too. Well stocked hospitals, military such as their Navy, beauty salons, various markets to buy local and exported produce. Then the British arrived, followed by the Europeans. Initially, the Palestinians welcomed the Europeans with open arms, as having international guests was different, exciting and the loved it. Yet, under British Mandate was there first societal earthquake and when more ships of Europeans kept arriving and the British Mandate expired, the Zionists raised their iron fist and smashed it down on Palestinian society with such force and shock, it forever shattered a once, beautiful, peaceful, thriving society and its Christian and Muslim Palestinians.
The Zionists were massacring many locals, that is, stripping the women and teens who were then inflicted by systematic torturing, mutilations, rapes, shooting and throwing them in pits. These included some men, bullet ridden babies and kids. The total for this incident was around 130.
Another example, is in May 1948, lining up these little kids, and blowing their brains out. Another historic crime the Zionists should face is rounding up 700 locals, shooting them and throwing them into pits. Today, there are still eyewitnesses to these atrocities. that live in the diaspora.
There are 1000s of cases of crimes from the Zionists. More recent are sporadic murders by private citizens who go around shooting farmers or the case of that Palestinian family who were burnt alive and when one of the culprits married, they held up a photo of the very badly burnt baby. Its legs had fallen off, due to the fire and the horrific photo was celebrated, with cheers and dance. This actually is a fairly normal reaction amongst the citizens. There are so many cases that run into the 1000s, which include torture chambers, abducting, jailing and caging little children.
The conclusion is this...the Zionists should be bought to the Hague to face horrific crimes going back to 1947 onwards.
As what Palestinian academics told me, " When a bully keeps smashing you, over and over again, the victim will eventually lash back. Hense the rise of the grandsons and nephews of those who were beaten, stabbed, shot, jailed, burnt alive, thrown in pits, having their homes overtaken. These grandsons and great nephews have appeared over the decades in terrorist attacks, such as the German Olympics, high jacking planes, bombing cafes or 7/10.
The Zionists refer the Palestinians as animals, yet the Zionist animal behavior has proven there is a very deep sociopathic behavior amongst a lot of the population. Even Professor llan Poppe says, "there is something sick in the nation". They take no accountability and have no remorse in torturing, shooting, spitting, kicking, punching a Palestinian or bulldozing their homes, land, roads, farms. Who steals and takes over a well-functioning society in the 20th c, with absolutely no remorse and all self-entitlement .... the Zionists. The have become monsters and if one dares coitizes Israel and speaks the truth against them, you are called the usual victimhood line, being antisemitic.
I am so done with Israel and Zionism.
They have for decades misguided, lied and distorted the truth not only to the Jewish people but the world. As far as I am concerned, I totally wash the filth of Israel from my hands as I realized they are not only murderers and thieves, but they contaminated the beauty of the Torah and what Judaism stands for.
THERE IS NO DIVIDE, IT IS THE OLD PROVEN TECHNIQUE OF CARROT AND STICK