Heel up ankle ve heel up regular farkını bu kadar iyi gösteren başka video bulamadım. Thank you for incredible and genuine information, much appreciated. Awesome content sir
It is cool that you include James Payne as a swivel master! It is nice to see that not everything has to be a competition! I greatly enjoy both of your videos and have learned so much from them. Thank you!
Nice covering all the techniques. Just a clarification though on Wanja (if it hasn't already been pointed out) - He isn't doing RR LL like the other heel toe guys, he is alternating RLRL (Right heel, Left heel, Right toe, Left toe).
Great video, I’ve been using the heel toe for a while now. No one ever taught me heel to o just mimicked what I was doing on my right foot for fast 16th note hits and that’s how that happened years ago. I am currently working on the raised heel ankle technique which is challenging to control but every day I see progress in control and with control comes speed. I never even knew about several of these other techniques.
Metal drummers have amazing technique and speed. It’s a form of drumming with it’s own category. I would like to play more heel up (single pedal) but it creates a balance problem. I feel like I want to fall forward unless I have my left foot planted on the hi hat. Any tips and methods for balance control would be appreciated. Excellent video, well explained.
@@ErceArslan hi, really good video, but I would like to practice heel toe technique, it s not easy because we dont know if the springs pedals must be very tight or loose, and I dont have the first stroke with the heel, it s more the middle of the foot than the heel, is it normal? Thank you for yor help. It s strange as movement ! Have you got a leg movement with this technique ?
@@pelvismc thank you! I am not a master of this technique so it would be much better if you ask this question to the guys doing this pricesly on the video. They can help you🤘🏼
Çok özenli her yönüyle inceleyen bir ders olmuş. Merak ettiğim bir şey var ben hep çalarken tokmağı deriye yapışık tutuyorum ve daha rahat oluyor ama tokmağı deriye yapıştırmadan çalarken daha rezonanslı bir ses alıyorum.Siz çalarken hiç yapışık tutmuyorsunuz bunu nasıl sağlıyorsunuz? İşin sırrı nedir :)
Çok teşekkür ederim:) tokmağı, çalarken eğer deriye yapıştırabiliyorsanız bu pedal yayını bir hayli gevşek olarak kullanmaya alıştığınızı gösterir, aksi takdirde gergin yaylı bir pedalı bu şekilde kullanmak pek mümkün değil. Yayı bu şekilde kullanmanın kuvvetli tuşe elde edebilmek, groovy ritimleri daha rahat çalabilmek gibi avantajları olsa da, hızlı, slideları ve tripletleri vb. çalabilmeyi zorlaştırması gibi dezavantajları da vardır.12. dersim pedal ayarları ile ilgili olacak. Ses olarak; deriye baskı yapılıp titreşimi engellendiği için rezonanssız ses almak çok normal tabii.
Hey erce! Thanks for the detailed information! But i have to say it is not easy to find your way with that many techniques! Which techniques do you use/recommend for which tempo? I am struggling to get just past 120 bpm and i am trying to build up speed with heel up ankle technique
You are welcome:) For around these tempos I recommend you to use leg motion mainly (like around 100-150 bpm) Of course continue working with heel up ankle motion technique too in these tempos as an exercise but you will feel more comfortable with leg motion
So where should you adjust your drum seat?... I have very long legs... so I tend to adjust it fairly high... but is there a rule or something? Like where should your knees go? Above o below your weist height?
I play with heel up ankle motion using calves. But I feel it's very hard to get my left foot into that technique. It's hard to start out at pretty much all tempos. I can sometimes get a few consistent 8th note hits in with the left at around 190-210bpm but it's not that consistent and sometimes the beater doesn't go all the way. Got any tips on how to get my left foot to play it properly?
Hello, sorry for late answer. Slave foot is all of our problem:( you can do the main exercises for the left foot which I have explained on my first tutorial video of this serie. I will make a separate tutorial video for this topic too.
Erce I'm loving this series. I actually noticed that I tend to use more hip flexor with my left foot while my right foot is almost exclusively ankle. Would you say this is a bad thing? Would it make sense to learn to use the same muscle groups in both legs?
Hey, I have a Ludwig double pedal, and its right pedal is fine, but the left pedal is very sluggish (hope that's the right word). I have to kick it very hard to get a sound. I think the problem is in the articulations (again a word I had to translate from Google, hope it's right). I tried to oil it but it didn't help anything. Should I just buy a better double kick like that Tama Speed Cobra? I'd appreciate any tips. Btw this is the best double bass drum tutorial series ever! PS. Jaska Raatikainen mainittu torilla tavataan ja R.I.P. Children Of Bodom.
This problem occurs in low quality twin pedals. Even the high quality ones have almost always lag because of the friction force in the connection unit, but it doesn't effect playing that much. You can check out my 19th lesson for further information.
Shin splints is about bones, not muscles. None of these techniques causes shin splints. Can you describe what and how you are doing with detailed information?
Erce Arslan thank you :) I was practicing double kicking an hour a day in sock feet and now am getting pain up the front of the legs. I have taken a break and am doing shin stretches and am drumming in good shoes now.... wondering if my chair angle is off as well? Using alot of ankle...
@@heidikorte8948 i need to see how you are doing to answer this question but if you feel 'burn' in your shin muscles, it's normal. Because these are the muscle groups in human body which lactic acid accumulates the most.
I tryhard heel up technique but my legs are tired when i raise them from the pedals and then it is all about the pain while i try to play it. What is the problem?
I find heel toe frustratingly impossible on regular sized foot pedals. The long pedals I can nail it all day in my sleep. Get on my normal set of dw3000 and I can't do it if I had to
Dude you should take up tap dancing bro. You would definately be the world's greatest. In any case first time I heard anyone call it the swivel technique. Also glad you mentioned it last because.... I think you eventually get to this after you hit the wall of your speed with leg motion or technique 3. Some of these guys are nauseously fast. Maybe that's the point for some of the satanic death metal I don't know.
Some kick drum heads have this from their manufacturers. In this video i use remo powersonic. But they are down and kinda off.. and i have totally forgot about them😄 you can check out some product demo videos on youtube about it. And yes, they are for dampening purposes but not so effective.
You have to know the exact microphones and where to exactly put them for your kick drum. Needs lots of testing.. Also preamps, cables, AD/DA, compression and EQ settings very important.
@@ErceArslan Is there any way to get it to sound like that just as the drum itself without any microphones? I also made this comment expecting to be ignored and i literally have a thousand other questions, could i hit you up on say instagram?
@@mookibois9784 Without any microphone unfornutately not. You can use just triggers instead of microphones but it sounds not like on this video, i mean it doesn't sound natural and organic. I have just opened a new patreon page for your questions. You can check it out. I will create content related to your questions, plus there will be lots of recording, mixing lessons too which I will not publish anywhere just patreon.
Easiest way to improve speed with the flat foot is with ankle weights. Here’s how it works. Find where your limit is with flat foot (for example, 130 bpm) and then subtract 30 bpm. Now strap some ankle weights on and play at your new bpm for 24 bars. After that, take a 30 minute break, then do the same but up the click by 10. Repeat this until you can play at your original limit while wearing the ankle weights for 24 bars. After that, take the weights off, and now you’ll be able to play at your former limit with ease.
So funny how you mention how it’s unnatural feeling (heel toe) while I have the heel toe down pretty much up to like 220 plus bpm but I want to learn the swivel and it’s impossible for my feet to do that motion.
@@ErceArslan Yes agreed. The main reason I want to learn either ankle motion or swivel is because there’s such a stigma behind the heel toe technique. I do play loud doubles but still get so much shit from other people who think it’s cheating in a way lol
@@25stealthshooter nothing is cheating.. it's ridiculous:) you can even stroke weaker on fast tempos but you are hitting every single note. And it doesn't matter how and with which part of your body you hit it.. Everybody's musicality, technique, point of view is different for music. Don't listen haters🤘
Thank you! It's a song from my band Ronnin's upcoming album. Album is totally finished but not released yet. Now we are working on video clips to deal with a record label and publish. Thanks for the interest:)🤘🏼🙏🏼
Heel toe is a very good technique for when you don’t have the money for a good direct drive pedal. You’d be amazed by how fast you can get a single chain going with heel toe.
I'm always playing with "leg motion" technique now i know why i'm always tired after playing drum.
This is my favourite tutorial series for double bass improvement. I love the details! Thanks, Erce, this must've been a shit ton of work :)
Adam sonsuz mütevazi. Kimse RUclips'da aratıp senden daha iyisini bulamaz! :)
This is the best video about pedal techniques. Congratulations!
Forgot to say your ankle lessons are awesome.thanks for helping
Just got my double bass pedal today. A lot of the videos I initially went straight into exercises with very little technique discussion. Thank you
私は英語を喋ることはできませんがあなたの言葉は自動翻訳ではっきりと日本語に変換されるので簡単に理解できます。とても綺麗な英語の発音をしているのでしょう。素晴らしい！
DUDE!!!!! You are the man!!! Thank you so much for these videos
Heel up ankle ve heel up regular farkını bu kadar iyi gösteren başka video bulamadım. Thank you for incredible and genuine information, much appreciated. Awesome content sir
It's new. I've been developing that for 5 years now I'm ready to show you
where has this been all my life! love it!
Same here, thank the mighty lords for Erce and RUclips(‘s right algorithm :p)
Excelentes vídeos explicativo saludos amigo desde Argentina me salvaron los subtítulos.
The best channel ❤️🖤❤️
It is cool that you include James Payne as a swivel master! It is nice to see that not everything has to be a competition! I greatly enjoy both of your videos and have learned so much from them. Thank you!
James Payne is the man!:) you are welcome bro🙏🏼
Nice covering all the techniques. Just a clarification though on Wanja (if it hasn't already been pointed out) - He isn't doing RR LL like the other heel toe guys, he is alternating RLRL (Right heel, Left heel, Right toe, Left toe).
Great vid dude, want to improve my playing and showing clips of drummers using them are a nice feature.
Wow, that was incredibly thorough! Thanks for the detailed explanations and examples, I didn't know a couple of these existed 😅
Your videos are the best.
Great video, I’ve been using the heel toe for a while now. No one ever taught me heel to o just mimicked what I was doing on my right foot for fast 16th note hits and that’s how that happened years ago. I am currently working on the raised heel ankle technique which is challenging to control but every day I see progress in control and with control comes speed. I never even knew about several of these other techniques.
Thank you for this course. It's very clear and methodical. I find it very useful and helpful. And special respect for design of your studio.
Thank you so much for many great exercies! You are my inspiration and motivation. I love weightlifting too
Great lesson !
Great video very full you did a very nice work
Thanks
perfect lesson!!!
thankyou so much!!
Very helpful man. Thanks a lot.
Brilliant videos man. Well laid out and lots of great example clips. Thank you for making these!
Çok büyük hizmet bee... :) Seviliyorsun Erce abi
This is the video I have been looking for. Thanks a lot for making such amazing work with this compilation. :D You get a new subscriber.
You are welcome:) 🙏🏼
Great videos. So inspiring and helpful. Thank you so much brother. Cheers from India.
Can you make a lesson about playing with ankle only for faster tempos, 160-210, please?
I like you channel, thank you for your job.
What drums is will Ferrell playing at 17:49 they sound noice
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
very good video! Thank you!
Thank you so much！
Great video, really appreciate it.
Metal drummers have amazing technique and speed. It’s a form of drumming with it’s own category. I would like to play more heel up (single pedal) but it creates a balance problem. I feel like I want to fall forward unless I have my left foot planted on the hi hat. Any tips and methods for balance control would be appreciated. Excellent video, well explained.
Thank you!🙏🏼
Did you ever tried sitting a bit higher to solve this problem?
@@ErceArslan hi, really good video, but I would like to practice heel toe technique, it s not easy because we dont know if the springs pedals must be very tight or loose, and I dont have the first stroke with the heel, it s more the middle of the foot than the heel, is it normal? Thank you for yor help. It s strange as movement ! Have you got a leg movement with this technique ?
@@pelvismc thank you! I am not a master of this technique so it would be much better if you ask this question to the guys doing this pricesly on the video. They can help you🤘🏼
I have a new an never before double bass drum techniques
It is a great stuff! Thank you for your contribute!
Çok özenli her yönüyle inceleyen bir ders olmuş. Merak ettiğim bir şey var ben hep çalarken tokmağı deriye yapışık tutuyorum ve daha rahat oluyor ama tokmağı deriye yapıştırmadan çalarken daha rezonanslı bir ses alıyorum.Siz çalarken hiç yapışık tutmuyorsunuz bunu nasıl sağlıyorsunuz? İşin sırrı nedir :)
Çok teşekkür ederim:) tokmağı, çalarken eğer deriye yapıştırabiliyorsanız bu pedal yayını bir hayli gevşek olarak kullanmaya alıştığınızı gösterir, aksi takdirde gergin yaylı bir pedalı bu şekilde kullanmak pek mümkün değil. Yayı bu şekilde kullanmanın kuvvetli tuşe elde edebilmek, groovy ritimleri daha rahat çalabilmek gibi avantajları olsa da, hızlı, slideları ve tripletleri vb. çalabilmeyi zorlaştırması gibi dezavantajları da vardır.12. dersim pedal ayarları ile ilgili olacak. Ses olarak; deriye baskı yapılıp titreşimi engellendiği için rezonanssız ses almak çok normal tabii.
Hey erce! Thanks for the detailed information! But i have to say it is not easy to find your way with that many techniques! Which techniques do you use/recommend for which tempo? I am struggling to get just past 120 bpm and i am trying to build up speed with heel up ankle technique
You are welcome:) For around these tempos I recommend you to use leg motion mainly (like around 100-150 bpm) Of course continue working with heel up ankle motion technique too in these tempos as an exercise but you will feel more comfortable with leg motion
This one is so helpful thanks 🙏 cheers from mongolia
Interesting as always. I am not sure now what exactly I am doing, but it is heel-up xD
Extremely good video. I'm having a lot of problems with full leg, heel down anything slow really. Need all the help I can get.
Thank you! You can watch my 'Strength' lesson. It may help
Awesome thank u so much for sharing amazing video.
So where should you adjust your drum seat?... I have very long legs... so I tend to adjust it fairly high... but is there a rule or something? Like where should your knees go? Above o below your weist height?
would give more thumbs up if i could, thanks for the video
I play with heel up ankle motion using calves. But I feel it's very hard to get my left foot into that technique. It's hard to start out at pretty much all tempos. I can sometimes get a few consistent 8th note hits in with the left at around 190-210bpm but it's not that consistent and sometimes the beater doesn't go all the way. Got any tips on how to get my left foot to play it properly?
Hello, sorry for late answer. Slave foot is all of our problem:( you can do the main exercises for the left foot which I have explained on my first tutorial video of this serie. I will make a separate tutorial video for this topic too.
1:13 what is this rubber black remo thing in front of the pedal used for?
Oh wow! You have a picture of Nikola Tesla!
Great tutorial man !!!!
Erce I'm loving this series. I actually noticed that I tend to use more hip flexor with my left foot while my right foot is almost exclusively ankle. Would you say this is a bad thing? Would it make sense to learn to use the same muscle groups in both legs?
Thank you! That's because your left ankle is much weaker than your right. I recommend you to strengthten the slave side's weakness as much as you can.
@Erce Arslan what is your speed limit?
RUclips’da bu konu hakkındaki en açıklayıcı video
thank you erce
Hey, I have a Ludwig double pedal, and its right pedal is fine, but the left pedal is very sluggish (hope that's the right word). I have to kick it very hard to get a sound. I think the problem is in the articulations (again a word I had to translate from Google, hope it's right). I tried to oil it but it didn't help anything. Should I just buy a better double kick like that Tama Speed Cobra? I'd appreciate any tips. Btw this is the best double bass drum tutorial series ever!
PS. Jaska Raatikainen mainittu torilla tavataan ja R.I.P. Children Of Bodom.
This problem occurs in low quality twin pedals. Even the high quality ones have almost always lag because of the friction force in the connection unit, but it doesn't effect playing that much. You can check out my 19th lesson for further information.
@@ErceArslan Thanks very much, I go watch that one :)
müthiş faydalı işler.. çok teşekkürler!
If I am getting shin splints from practicing double Bass- what am I doing wrong? which technique would you recommend using to avoid shin splints?
Shin splints is about bones, not muscles. None of these techniques causes shin splints. Can you describe what and how you are doing with detailed information?
Erce Arslan thank you :) I was practicing double kicking an hour a day in sock feet and now am getting pain up the front of the legs. I have taken a break and am doing shin stretches and am drumming in good shoes now.... wondering if my chair angle is off as well? Using alot of ankle...
@@heidikorte8948 i need to see how you are doing to answer this question but if you feel 'burn' in your shin muscles, it's normal. Because these are the muscle groups in human body which lactic acid accumulates the most.
I tryhard heel up technique but my legs are tired when i raise them from the pedals and then it is all about the pain while i try to play it. What is the problem?
Problem may be if you are sitting low and trying to raise your leg. Your legs must be relaxed while you are doing heel up ankle techniques.
I find heel toe frustratingly impossible on regular sized foot pedals. The long pedals I can nail it all day in my sleep. Get on my normal set of dw3000 and I can't do it if I had to
Wanja so nice drumer
Hello, your tutorial are awesome, ist's possible to have french subtitles ? There are no many tutorials in French on youtube
Thank you for your nice comment! I didn't think to put French subtitles but why not.. I can work on it later I finish the series👍🤘🏼
@@ErceArslan Thanks a lot ! And I love Tama too :)
Teşekkürler. Emeğine sağlık...
Sean reinert ripping it up on the legs
Teşekkürler Erce :)
I don't play the drums, but here I am!
Great tutorial! What's the song Samus plays at 4:56?
Nevermind, I found it: Fear Factory - Self Bias Resistor
Hey, whats the matt that you have on the bottom of your bass drums?
It's Evans EQPAD Kick Muffler
@@ErceArslan Thanks, also these videos are super useful! Im using them everyday.
That intro be so goddamn much at 5 in the morning 😂
I think that Nicko Mc Brain from Iron Maiden has his own technique to play doubles with just a single pedal!!
Heyy, your intro sounds like "Manufaktur Replika Baptis" by Deadsquad
Dude you should take up tap dancing bro. You would definately be the world's greatest. In any case first time I heard anyone call it the swivel technique. Also glad you mentioned it last because....
I think you eventually get to this after you hit the wall of your speed with leg motion or technique 3.
Some of these guys are nauseously fast. Maybe that's the point for some of the satanic death metal I don't know.
What are the pads in front of the pedals? Are they for dampening purposes?
Which pads?
Erce Arslan the pads in front of the bass drum pedals
@@lostrhino73 do you mean bass drum patches?
Erce Arslan
The foam pieces between the bass drum pedal footboard and bass drum heads...
Some kick drum heads have this from their manufacturers. In this video i use remo powersonic. But they are down and kinda off.. and i have totally forgot about them😄 you can check out some product demo videos on youtube about it. And yes, they are for dampening purposes but not so effective.
I think u forgot to mention chris adler on heel toe technique rite???
No I didn't
How do you get your bass to sound like that?
You have to know the exact microphones and where to exactly put them for your kick drum. Needs lots of testing.. Also preamps, cables, AD/DA, compression and EQ settings very important.
@@ErceArslan Is there any way to get it to sound like that just as the drum itself without any microphones?
I also made this comment expecting to be ignored and i literally have a thousand other questions, could i hit you up on say instagram?
@@mookibois9784 Without any microphone unfornutately not. You can use just triggers instead of microphones but it sounds not like on this video, i mean it doesn't sound natural and organic. I have just opened a new patreon page for your questions. You can check it out. I will create content related to your questions, plus there will be lots of recording, mixing lessons too which I will not publish anywhere just patreon.
@@ErceArslan alright thank you!
Easiest way to improve speed with the flat foot is with ankle weights. Here’s how it works. Find where your limit is with flat foot (for example, 130 bpm) and then subtract 30 bpm. Now strap some ankle weights on and play at your new bpm for 24 bars. After that, take a 30 minute break, then do the same but up the click by 10. Repeat this until you can play at your original limit while wearing the ankle weights for 24 bars. After that, take the weights off, and now you’ll be able to play at your former limit with ease.
So funny how you mention how it’s unnatural feeling (heel toe) while I have the heel toe down pretty much up to like 220 plus bpm but I want to learn the swivel and it’s impossible for my feet to do that motion.
such kind of things are never impossible for human body i guess:)
@@ErceArslan Yes agreed. The main reason I want to learn either ankle motion or swivel is because there’s such a stigma behind the heel toe technique. I do play loud doubles but still get so much shit from other people who think it’s cheating in a way lol
@@25stealthshooter nothing is cheating.. it's ridiculous:) you can even stroke weaker on fast tempos but you are hitting every single note. And it doesn't matter how and with which part of your body you hit it.. Everybody's musicality, technique, point of view is different for music. Don't listen haters🤘
@@ErceArslan you’re the man. Honestly I agree as long as with whichever technique you use it’s precise you’re doing well. So much hate in this world
Where's that kollias video from pls ?
It's from ''Blast Beats Explanation with George Kollias (OnlineLessons.tv)''
Cual seria la tensión para los pedales ? al usar la tecnica heelp up ?
It depends. My 12. lesson will be about pedal settings
20:53 Nice. What song is it?
Thank you! It's a song from my band Ronnin's upcoming album. Album is totally finished but not released yet. Now we are working on video clips to deal with a record label and publish. Thanks for the interest:)🤘🏼🙏🏼
Do not you have a picture of Carl E. Sagan?
I have his books:)
baaaaaabb bırak davulmuş bateriymiş strüktrüyel ceoloci daha iyi, çok tebrikler harikasın.
I want to share it with you
Abi bir dyers eve cover görebilir miyiz acaba senden ?
Bir ara çalacağım :)
U myst have a long axix board paddle,, or speed cobra
I use Tama Speed Cobra
13:02 looks like a fish flopping on the ground
Can I have glass of Heel-Toe please. Shaken, not stirred.
Top!
Aquiles Priester ❤️🤟🏻🤟🏻🖤🖤 66samus
4:37 this guy has the same pedal dw9000
I like you so much... 🙏🙏..
what is the song in the intro?
It's a song from one of my band called Ronnin from the upcoming album.
19:10 THIS IS A EXHAUSTIVE COMPREHENSIVE STUDY OF THIS TOPIC ❓️👍👀
👍👍👍👋👋👋
Heel toe is a very good technique for when you don’t have the money for a good direct drive pedal. You’d be amazed by how fast you can get a single chain going with heel toe.
Yeah I’ve seen some drummers kill it on a pearl eliminator
You forget about Gene Hoglan flat foot master.
nowdays he is heel down
Can you share me a video of that technique please?
@@ErceArslan ruclips.net/video/i_L-cIT2sug/видео.html
It looks like heel down but it's way easier to play faster.
In what band did Nikola Tesla play, did he favor heel toe over traditional blast beat... :D :D
He had his own 'Tesla Blasts' 😁
Here's a challenge - pretend he's not sitting on a chair, and imagine him standing up when giving the examples of just feet. You're welcome
Made me lol.
TBH, I have no idea what I’m doing down there
Hazine
9:15
No shirt can contain him