Dmills comes off a 2 pod injury and returns to his first team all pod form. Some were saying it was mikes time to add himself to the all pod conversations but after a rough stretch during the “is this a superstar” the talk of “is he a all star” come up. Kenny looks like he’s ready to add to his mvp trophy case. P after looking like the easy favorite for dpoy of pods enters the mvp conversations after making Mike look dumb for his superstar takes.
Someone who was a superstar without playoff success was Demarcus cousins. I feel like he was generally considered the best center throughout the league for a solid stretch without any success.
Superstar is a stretch imo. I don't think Cousins possessed the intangible or defensive gravity to propel a team to the next next level. Obviously he was on some bad teams but... take 2016-2017 and put him on the 2016-2017 Bulls with Rondo and Wade and Butler. Is that projected to win a title? Or even in consideration for being a title contending team?
Kenny should always have a short trivia game based on Mike's Drop the Mic question. Usually feels kinda pointless but this had a fun convo topic this week with D Mills being on his A Game guessing them all
honestly idk how you could have dame as a superstar but not AD. AD is the much more impactful player and even when he has bad shooting nights he’s impacting the game. We always complain about people like Julius Randle not doing stuff like that when they have a bad shooting night but when a guy like AD does it we still complain. Yes there’s a lot to be desired offensively but at the same time he has injury history so his passiveness can be understandable due to not wanting to bang with other centers.
What Mike was saying about Dame made perfect sense to me.. you have to take into account who someone is right now. Theres different levels and a difference between all star, star and superstar. Not sure what P was mad about lmaoo
This is contradicting, how Dame can still be regarded as a superstar if he's good offensively and atrocious defensively while AD cannot because of offensive consistency (still averaging 24, 13, 3 and 1 tho). And Mike arguing about Kawhi being a superstar while AD and Dame is not? AD Dame Kawhi
Glad to see DMills come back and pod at the same level. To all his haters, just enjoy pod. We’re witnessing one of the greatest in our generation, don’t take it for granted
How? Shai has literally been amazing the past two season is likely going to be all nba first team back to back he’s an excellent defender closer. If dame and kawhi are both still super stars then shai is for sure a super star
They were very lenient when deciding who was a superstar or not. Only superstars to me this year are Jokic, Giannis, Steph, Luka, Embiid, KD, Book, Tatum, LeBron and Shai
It gets confusing when on one hand you’re saying it gotta be how they’re playing this season vs accounting for career accolades. Probably better to just not overthink it and go with a list like yours. Think about it too much and the criteria get messy cause if they’re Paul George is not a superstar cause he’s not playing at that level anymore but Shai isn’t either cause he’s not had deep playoff runs yet I don’t get if we’re looking at this season only or career numbers. Better just go with a gut feeling I guess lol
53:20 I appreciate P calling Mike out here. These fellas get a hell of a lot of views making these videos, and it seems like Mike often gets caught contradicting himself when his statements come without any preparation or clear thought. It makes for a poor podcast and I’m glad that P calls him out when it happens.
I get what you’re saying but in this case I don’t think Mike said anything that was super off-base. He was just expressing an opinion on Dame’s current status in the league, that P took as kind of a hot take but really isn’t given everyone in the media has been worried about the Bucks fall from top tier status.
As a straight haired dude, that little band Luka wore is so nice to keep your hair off your forehead and brow. It flickin against your head can get annoying
Dmills SGA has had his playoff moment as rookie showed up . Now that he’s older , i would believe that he will show up this time around . SGA is a superstar
I don’t understand how guys like Dame or Book or Kawhi are superstars but AD isn’t? (Personally I’d say none of them are) AD’s defense is better than any of those guys’ offense. And I’d even argue that he’s more consistent on offense than they are on defense (outside of Kawhi at least)
Trae Young is a better player than Damian Lillard, we have to stop normalizing 27 ppg & 10 assists. Thats not normal to do, he gets his team to the Playoffs every year and has had a Conf Finals appearance. It just seems to be a bias against him that I really really really don’t understand.
Been watching y’all since kenny basement days and even when it was just audio. Super unlucky for me y’all stopping the bday shout-outs day before mine (Jan 2) but I’ll send you 50 cents P!! My name is Jon, 😂 next year tho when y’all slide to all star here in Indy Ima tap in w y’all! Glad Dmilly back.
P's right, now of course no one would believe me, a stranger on the internet, but back in 2014 you can look at Giannis and just know he has the mentality and the gifts and the "it" factor to be something special, Coulibaly got that same spark
AD is a superstar. we also have to start acknowledging Darvin Ham’s lack of offensive schemes. He runs zero plays for AD. all his buckets come from p&r, 2nd chance points, or free throws. so when they play teams that pack the paint he doesn’t score as much. if he had a coach that knew how to get him involved more, I think the discussion around his offensive game would be much different
You can't be a top 10 player and not be a superstar. I've never heard of such a thing. AD is a superstar WITHOUT QUESTION! He averaged 26 and 13 last season, so that whole "inconsistent offensively" argument isn't strong enough. JT is an inconsistent scorer at times as well and the whole panel agreed he fits the superstar criteria.
@@jeremiahsmith7706 is availability not part of being a superstar?? A large part of the reason why kawhi is no longer viewed as one is the constant unavailability. You don’t win games soley because you have AD , he’s not even of a difference maker to be called a superstar, he’s a great complimentary peice to a lebron , but that’s as far as it goes
@@DJJ616 I don't disagree with JT being better than AD necessarily. My whole point was you can't say AD isn't a superstar because he's inconsistent as a scorer, but then say JT is without a doubt a superstar when he's also inconsistent
@@jeremiahsmith7706 he’s clearly better than AD tho , that’s the point, AD is significantly more inconsistent that Tatum as well as being just a much worse offensive player Also superstars don’t have entire down years , AD had 2 , compare that to the occasional bad stretch for Tatum and you have you answer
Yall could do 1 year rebuilds vs each other on stream. fantasy draft and have rules for trading. Make sure yall can meet in the finals and winner gets something.
Trae young last 12 games: 30 and 11 on 45/38/85 with 1.7 steals a game solid defense I just really wish people would watch hawks games and realize it’s not Trae’s fault they’re losing. Listen to quin Synder. He’s doing everything the hawks want him to do. Dejounte is not the defender or passer people expected him to be. Trae plays better defense than him half of the games and that’s good as far as Trae’s improvement but awful for the Hawks. Ya’ll gotta start watching before y’all judge Trae man. He’s a better player now than in 2021.
Nah man AD is not a superstar. D Mills hit it right on the money. You should know what you're getting from a Superstar. So many players could "raise a ceiling or floor," but that doesn't make them a Superstar.
When was the last time Dame really lifted his team though like a superstar. Is he perennial all NBA? He definitely hasn't been top 3 at his position the last couple years either. Steph Luka Fox the last 2 years. The one year with Trae. Etc
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Dmills back after his 2 pod suspension for leaving crumbs on the couch
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Nah that’s crazy😭
Lmaoooo
are all marcos funnny?
this the one 😭
Dmills comes off a 2 pod injury and returns to his first team all pod form. Some were saying it was mikes time to add himself to the all pod conversations but after a rough stretch during the “is this a superstar” the talk of “is he a all star” come up. Kenny looks like he’s ready to add to his mvp trophy case. P after looking like the easy favorite for dpoy of pods enters the mvp conversations after making Mike look dumb for his superstar takes.
This is crazy 🤣🤣
P is a piece of shit, always wayyy too agressive for no reason. Kawhi has 2 finals mvp, lillard has a bread. They are not on the same tier
I love these storylines yall narrate😭
Glad to see Dmills playing at an all-podcast level after his 2 game suspension
Someone who was a superstar without playoff success was Demarcus cousins. I feel like he was generally considered the best center throughout the league for a solid stretch without any success.
My favourite center of all time. Still just based off those superstar years
Superstar is a stretch imo. I don't think Cousins possessed the intangible or defensive gravity to propel a team to the next next level. Obviously he was on some bad teams but... take 2016-2017 and put him on the 2016-2017 Bulls with Rondo and Wade and Butler. Is that projected to win a title? Or even in consideration for being a title contending team?
Bro you can put joker shaq or wilt on that team they wouldnt have been projected to do anything
He was good. He was NOT a superstar he was the best by default. Who else was there? His second best comp was Marc gasol who was a low volume guy.
@@Perk30-bw7pkdefinitely would compare Jokic playoff teams from 2021-22 to that team it’s comparable
36:25 NAHHH KENNY NOT SLICK. HE JUST CONFIRMED THROUGH THE WIRE LEAVING BLEACHER REPORT WITH THAT SLICK COMMENT. 😂
yall joking but we would love watching you guys play board games. D Mills pictionary moments are iconic for a reason
Kenny should always have a short trivia game based on Mike's Drop the Mic question. Usually feels kinda pointless but this had a fun convo topic this week with D Mills being on his A Game guessing them all
“I’m back”- Michael Jord- nah DMills 💯😂
Dmills is back and dressed like an Expo marker 🔥💪🏿
He lookin like a king size sharpie 😂
Aye he came dressed to make a point, pun intended
He looks like he’s about to rob a food joint
I’m itching for the pod to drop each time, 3 episodes during the season would be so nice
Brother is an addict
@@abscinding im at work all day listening to podcasts 3 a week would be amazing
I thinks that's why Kenny and p made their own pod. To get more stuff out
Yeah it has taken a long time for them to do more. Tuesday to Saturday takes forever
honestly idk how you could have dame as a superstar but not AD. AD is the much more impactful player and even when he has bad shooting nights he’s impacting the game. We always complain about people like Julius Randle not doing stuff like that when they have a bad shooting night but when a guy like AD does it we still complain. Yes there’s a lot to be desired offensively but at the same time he has injury history so his passiveness can be understandable due to not wanting to bang with other centers.
I thought it was more crazy how unanimous and quick it was decided for dame and ad was a no pretty quick
Dmills with the all-podcast fit and performance. Them contract talks really have been settled.
When P said “don’t ask me his college” someone should’ve for all the times he asked Derrick or Mike when he knew they didn’t know
D Milly just robbed a bank
29:48 nahhh Dmills out here writing fanfic😭 generational glazing 🗣️
That AD take aged like milk😂😂
What Mike was saying about Dame made perfect sense to me.. you have to take into account who someone is right now. Theres different levels and a difference between all star, star and superstar. Not sure what P was mad about lmaoo
This is contradicting, how Dame can still be regarded as a superstar if he's good offensively and atrocious defensively while AD cannot because of offensive consistency (still averaging 24, 13, 3 and 1 tho). And Mike arguing about Kawhi being a superstar while AD and Dame is not?
AD
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Naz and Rudy’s confidence is off the charts, it’s so much fun to watch
Glad to see DMills come back and pod at the same level. To all his haters, just enjoy pod. We’re witnessing one of the greatest in our generation, don’t take it for granted
As a Wiz fan I almost cried tears of joy hearing P bring up Bilal. The last time a rookie popped like this for us is Wall or Beal
D Mills back and coming with the come !
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Great reference
“Is he related to Mike[Hunt]” by Kenny is wild that Mike didn’t catch that😭
The boys never fail to fill my cheeks with joy when they upload❤
Crazy
You thought this was gonna get buried in the comments huh
This comment is crazy. 5 game suspension for this incoming
this shit wild
This some young Gary Harris shii
Hard to believe Halliburton is doing all this and he’s only 5 years old
“ why don’t you get yourself a f*ckin book “ 😂😂😂 dawg
Druski unfollowed Pierre😭😭😭
kenny defending shai being a superstar right now gotta be the most casual shit ive seen him do
How? Shai has literally been amazing the past two season is likely going to be all nba first team back to back he’s an excellent defender closer. If dame and kawhi are both still super stars then shai is for sure a super star
AD deserve an apology RIGHT NOW
Can he sustain it?
@@mrbushido7187 Only time'll tell, I hope so
@@RosesInTheDark1996 me too tbh he probably is my favorite all around player when healthy
@@mrbushido7187 Mine too
They were very lenient when deciding who was a superstar or not. Only superstars to me this year are Jokic, Giannis, Steph, Luka, Embiid, KD, Book, Tatum, LeBron and Shai
It gets confusing when on one hand you’re saying it gotta be how they’re playing this season vs accounting for career accolades. Probably better to just not overthink it and go with a list like yours.
Think about it too much and the criteria get messy cause if they’re Paul George is not a superstar cause he’s not playing at that level anymore but Shai isn’t either cause he’s not had deep playoff runs yet I don’t get if we’re looking at this season only or career numbers.
Better just go with a gut feeling I guess lol
You right, no way lillard who couldn’t make the play in is a superstar
What has shai done in the playoffs to get that label?
dmills looking swaggy for the return
I’m sorry but you guys didn’t mention luka at all when naming superstars??
53:20 I appreciate P calling Mike out here. These fellas get a hell of a lot of views making these videos, and it seems like Mike often gets caught contradicting himself when his statements come without any preparation or clear thought. It makes for a poor podcast and I’m glad that P calls him out when it happens.
I get what you’re saying but in this case I don’t think Mike said anything that was super off-base. He was just expressing an opinion on Dame’s current status in the league, that P took as kind of a hot take but really isn’t given everyone in the media has been worried about the Bucks fall from top tier status.
Mike love him a lil ahh quarter zip 😂😂
2:50 Kenny I see you wit the Mike Hunt joke
THROUGH THE WIIIIIIRE, DMILYYYY BACK
As a straight haired dude, that little band Luka wore is so nice to keep your hair off your forehead and brow. It flickin against your head can get annoying
WELCOME BACK DMILLY
DMILLS GOT A NEW CONTRACT. THE LOCKOUT IS DONE.
Shoutout Tsohonis getting 28 points off the bench for Long Beach State University and besting USC
Yall really saying Davis isn't a superstar but Dame is?
Mike I be on the same thing, I just need snow on Christmas, and it can leave afterwards 😂😂
Dmills SGA has had his playoff moment as rookie showed up . Now that he’s older , i would believe that he will show up this time around .
SGA is a superstar
Felt like DMills been gone 9 episodes god does answer prayers yall 🙏🏼
Pierre is much better on his own platform. That Heliocentric pod is quality. Polarizing performances based off watching this
33:50 y’all didnt see everything i guess.. coach said he never even left the arena and you shoudnt believe the first report u see🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dmills came fitted tf up 😭
MOOOOOM DMILLZ BACK DMILLZ BACK
Dmills was gone for a miiiiiin he must hit that Shohei money😂
I don’t understand how guys like Dame or Book or Kawhi are superstars but AD isn’t? (Personally I’d say none of them are)
AD’s defense is better than any of those guys’ offense. And I’d even argue that he’s more consistent on offense than they are on defense (outside of Kawhi at least)
Derek got the full Rick fit
Good to see Dmills back.
Welcome back Dmilly !
Embiid is a superstar. But we gotta hold him accountable for his playoff failures injuries or not.
The boys are back in town
THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN
I just clicked to see if d mills was there. Now I'm hyped for when I watch it later
Trae Young is a better player than Damian Lillard, we have to stop normalizing 27 ppg & 10 assists. Thats not normal to do, he gets his team to the Playoffs every year and has had a Conf Finals appearance. It just seems to be a bias against him that I really really really don’t understand.
Welcome back Dmilly
Mike was right about lillard, no way you can call a him a superstar when he couldn’t even make the 10th seed last year
1:06:47 Doc Rivers lyin his a** off we just gonna forget about Isaiah Joe??😂
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31:21 giannis. Tf yall on today? 😂
2020 Lebron had a top 3 pg season ever
Been watching y’all since kenny basement days and even when it was just audio. Super unlucky for me y’all stopping the bday shout-outs day before mine (Jan 2) but I’ll send you 50 cents P!! My name is Jon, 😂 next year tho when y’all slide to all star here in Indy Ima tap in w y’all! Glad Dmilly back.
P's right, now of course no one would believe me, a stranger on the internet, but back in 2014 you can look at Giannis and just know he has the mentality and the gifts and the "it" factor to be something special, Coulibaly got that same spark
Finally everyone back 🐐🐐🐐🐐🙏🏾
Consistency = superstardom
Solid fit today Derrick
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I feel so full now that the boys have dropped it on me 🙏
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I beg your pardon?
Boogie was a superstar before he ever even sniffed the playoffs
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welcome back dmills
26:13 why is P’s bron impression so good? 😭
DMills back with 4 different blacks on 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Mike had me crying bro 😭😭 1:28:21
Im sorry but if booker is a superstar trae gotta be one too. Those career stats too similar.
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AD is a superstar. we also have to start acknowledging Darvin Ham’s lack of offensive schemes. He runs zero plays for AD. all his buckets come from p&r, 2nd chance points, or free throws. so when they play teams that pack the paint he doesn’t score as much. if he had a coach that knew how to get him involved more, I think the discussion around his offensive game would be much different
To be fair to mike, if we're going off reputation and "the last 4 years" like P said then Trae is definitely a superstar, and so is Kawhi
good ep
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dmilly came back fitted up
1:31:32 - P talking crazy 😂
You can't be a top 10 player and not be a superstar. I've never heard of such a thing. AD is a superstar WITHOUT QUESTION! He averaged 26 and 13 last season, so that whole "inconsistent offensively" argument isn't strong enough. JT is an inconsistent scorer at times as well and the whole panel agreed he fits the superstar criteria.
Tatums clearly better than AD tho , he’s been better the past 3 seasons, look at Ads numbers the 2 years before the 22/23 season.
@@DJJ616 yeah. AD's been injured
@@jeremiahsmith7706 is availability not part of being a superstar??
A large part of the reason why kawhi is no longer viewed as one is the constant unavailability.
You don’t win games soley because you have AD , he’s not even of a difference maker to be called a superstar, he’s a great complimentary peice to a lebron , but that’s as far as it goes
@@DJJ616 I don't disagree with JT being better than AD necessarily. My whole point was you can't say AD isn't a superstar because he's inconsistent as a scorer, but then say JT is without a doubt a superstar when he's also inconsistent
@@jeremiahsmith7706 he’s clearly better than AD tho , that’s the point, AD is significantly more inconsistent that Tatum as well as being just a much worse offensive player
Also superstars don’t have entire down years , AD had 2 , compare that to the occasional bad stretch for Tatum and you have you answer
Love this pod but yall really really disrespect AD
Yall could do 1 year rebuilds vs each other on stream. fantasy draft and have rules for trading. Make sure yall can meet in the finals and winner gets something.
Dmilly back LFFFGGGG
Trae young last 12 games: 30 and 11 on 45/38/85 with 1.7 steals a game solid defense
I just really wish people would watch hawks games and realize it’s not Trae’s fault they’re losing. Listen to quin Synder. He’s doing everything the hawks want him to do.
Dejounte is not the defender or passer people expected him to be. Trae plays better defense than him half of the games and that’s good as far as Trae’s improvement but awful for the Hawks. Ya’ll gotta start watching before y’all judge Trae man. He’s a better player now than in 2021.
That will never happen. They have their narratives and they will stick to them.
Mike know he messed up on that dame superstar take but didn’t want to back track
Mike put Kenny on to the kicks
Nah man AD is not a superstar. D Mills hit it right on the money. You should know what you're getting from a Superstar. So many players could "raise a ceiling or floor," but that doesn't make them a Superstar.
Dmills got a fit on lowkey
When was the last time Dame really lifted his team though like a superstar. Is he perennial all NBA? He definitely hasn't been top 3 at his position the last couple years either. Steph Luka Fox the last 2 years. The one year with Trae. Etc
call dmills the dark knight with that fit 🔥
2:09 home run hitter today is a stretch lmao