Yes, with a "but." The tail hook and airframe structure were the same, but the main wheels on a USAF Phantom used larger, lower-pressure tires which wouldn't hold up to such repeated usage. The wing on USAF Phantoms was slightly bulged over the wheel well to accommodate the larger tire.
Interesting. So, with larger/higher-pressure tires, this should be doable. I guess, a separate issue is the qualifications of the pilot. I imagine the ship's commander is not gonna risk someone not qualified as a naval aviator to attempt to come aboard, regardless of the type of airframe they are flying.
@@Doc_3908 There may have also been a Center of Gravity issues, or wear and tear on the gun mounts, with the F-4E landing on carriers, but I think the airframes were essentially identical to the Navy version (with the exception of the mentioned main gear). The real reason F-4E's weren't provided for the Navy was probably just the standard politics of inter-service rivalry.
@@Doc_3908f5e pilots were trained to land on naval aircraft in the event of an accident. It’s the big red button, top left of the dash, press it and you can do a naval landing
actually, the Navy used the F4 phantoms during the Vietnam war and phantom pilots actually landed on their carriers routinely. so it is possible in realistically.
Yes, the navy did operator Phantoms. That is what the Phantom was originally made for. HOWEVER, the navy used different Phantom variants that had no nose mounted gun and stronger landing gear (among other things) to make it possible to operate them on carriers without breaking anything.
Right on point. I've gotten better (though far from perfect). But in bad weather (thunderstorm, high turbulence), it's still a "plop-and-pray" kinda thing. And DCS is not even modeling a pitching deck yet...
Nice to know other people like to fly for fun like I do. I know we don't always follow the proper procedures but I sure enjoy it!
Yes, with a "but." The tail hook and airframe structure were the same, but the main wheels on a USAF Phantom used larger, lower-pressure tires which wouldn't hold up to such repeated usage. The wing on USAF Phantoms was slightly bulged over the wheel well to accommodate the larger tire.
Interesting. So, with larger/higher-pressure tires, this should be doable. I guess, a separate issue is the qualifications of the pilot. I imagine the ship's commander is not gonna risk someone not qualified as a naval aviator to attempt to come aboard, regardless of the type of airframe they are flying.
@@Doc_3908 There may have also been a Center of Gravity issues, or wear and tear on the gun mounts, with the F-4E landing on carriers, but I think the airframes were essentially identical to the Navy version (with the exception of the mentioned main gear). The real reason F-4E's weren't provided for the Navy was probably just the standard politics of inter-service rivalry.
@@Doc_3908f5e pilots were trained to land on naval aircraft in the event of an accident. It’s the big red button, top left of the dash, press it and you can do a naval landing
Back when I was playing Strike Fighters, I cobbled together a Navy skin (i think VF-84) for the F-4E. It was fun having that flexibility
I hope there isn't anyone out there that actually believes you could just willy-nilly land on a carrier without talking to anybody about it first😂
Sorry, Captain, radio no-workie... LoL! :D
Of course, if you're grabbing a one-wire you're going to get a NG for that pass. Your CO and the Safety Officer is going to have a chat with you.
We need a Naval Mod for this until HB develop The F-4J
Nah, hope they develop f4J
@@TheEaglePilot Eurofighter first
Why do you have wingtip smoke on? Can you turn it off?
It's not wingtip smoke - just vapor from the positive angle of attack. If I pitch the nose down, the vapor disappears.
Power!
Dude you would’ve been waved off way before anywhere near the boat. AOA is miles off. Way too fast and low. Every time.
dcs players when you dont serve in the navy as an aviator:
@@esOwOFor real like just let this dude have fun
Wow... cool....
actually, the Navy used the F4 phantoms during the Vietnam war and phantom pilots actually landed on their carriers routinely. so it is possible in realistically.
Yes, the navy did operator Phantoms. That is what the Phantom was originally made for. HOWEVER, the navy used different Phantom variants that had no nose mounted gun and stronger landing gear (among other things) to make it possible to operate them on carriers without breaking anything.
@@TheRobeRangerwasn’t the f4E equipped with stronger landing gear while having the gun in the nose? Jw
You're WAY too fast, so the hook is higher, hence the ball not working for you. Learn to make a proper approach first :)
Right on point. I've gotten better (though far from perfect). But in bad weather (thunderstorm, high turbulence), it's still a "plop-and-pray" kinda thing. And DCS is not even modeling a pitching deck yet...