HEAT PUMP INSTALLATION our very first under the heat geek umbrella.
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- Опубликовано: 20 апр 2024
- Our very first Heat geek heat pump installation over in Shirley near Solihull. Vaillant arotherm plus 5kw with joule 200 litre high gain cylinder with all radiators upgraded and some pipe work upgrades. Took a full week and learnt so much about the time involved and material costs. Didn’t quite go according to plan as the cylinder needed to be housed in loft due to width and extra pipe work needed upgrading that was found during the installation to make sure we had the right flow rates but nothing we couldn’t overcome.
Lovely ❤ and brilliant video going through the install... thank you 😊
Great job and good to hear it's a HeatGeek guaranteed to work, install.
Thank you 🙏
Tidy work by a top engineer
Thanks Andrew, hope you are well.
In Birmingham, you would wake up one morning to find that heat pump was gone, the running costs, then
Be zero
It is in Birmingham and if they can lift about 120kg then so be it.
Did installing the unit in front require a planning permission?
Not in this instance but for certain areas this would be the case.
We already have solar and batteries. Insulated to achieve a EPC of A. Got a EV and now we are looking for a HP and at the age of 67. It’s not to get a quick ROI but to reduce our carbon footprint.
One thing I liked was the water cylinder in the loft. We would probably need a 200Ltr tank. Do you have to do any strengthening of the joists to enable the tank to go in the loft?
As far as the loft is concerned for a cylinder it’s about spreading the load accordingly as it’s 200kg for that cylinder size.
Building regs state you need proper loft ladders and a light and a boarded floor for service and maintenance.
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Nice job. Small nitpick but maybe try filming landscape next time :-)
Yes definitely would work better .
Vaillant Arotherm... What's the refrigerant? If it's one of their new propane models how did you work around the guidance not to site it near a window?
A window above is fine, needs to be 1m from an opening door. R290 is the refrigerant. When we do a pre site survey we can superimpose the Heat pump in position with the clearance around to check for compliance.
@@smartboilercompany1983 R290 is propane, but good news about the window as it makes future install of a heat pump more feasible for my back garden.
Three phase in a 3 bed house how much electricity does it take
It’s very much overkill even with an EV charger. Not sure what the network distribution regs are with this tbh. My house has the same setup but I’m only single phase with 80amp fuse.
It looks to me that someone has seriously devalued the price of their house.
The workmanship and engineering look great and well thought out but the location at the front of home is never going to be accepted by my wife. An overview of why the owner was upgrading and ball park costs and anticipated savings, years to pay back. I think a lot of people are looking at these systems and are struggling justifying the capital outlay, the fact the government are pushing it is even more worrying as they don’t have to pay when it doesn’t work out, like the depreciation a lot of people are suffering with their EV’s.
Thank you, we try our best to do a quality job. Homeowner wanted to go full electric with battery storage and pv panels and reduce his carbon footprint, also has electric car and EV charger.
The outlay can be larger than a gas boiler 100% agreed. Depends on your reason for changing from gas I suppose whether you deem that worth it. I don’t understand the payback people talk about. Most spend 5-10k on a bathroom and in excess of 20k on a kitchen with no payback, so why do we view spending money on our (essential) heating system gas or electric as an investment we should expect a return on or recoup our outlay?? Everything we own is depreciating in value in our home, and I think that homes that have renewable energy/heating will actually be more valuable as we move forward with the technology.
@@smartboilercompany1983Well said and I totally agree with your comment. It really irritates me when people say you’ll never get your money back from this?
Most people have uglier cars than these heat pumps...hahah!
Here's my personal real world data of the running costs throughout a whole winter.
ruclips.net/video/GM2MCaYyaHE/видео.html
For us, we needed a new boiler anyway, so the capital investment was a non issue in our specific case.
If any neighbours hear it they’ll know where to look
It makes less noise than most gas boilers that’s for sure.
Why on earth would you put that at the front of your house
The only location available on this property and customer wanted to go full electric and reduce his carbon footprint.
He will be getting a cover for it I believe.
Most people have uglier cars than these heat pumps...hahah!
@@smartboilercompany1983 Might be worth recommending the vinyl wrap solutions instead of a cover to maintain optimum air flow and efficiency.
@@UpsideDownFork good point, I have seen them tbh and they definitely have a place for heat pump aesthetics.
@@smartboilercompany1983 just last week I saw a plain anthracite wrap on a Vaillant and it really helped the heat pump disappear.
Ours is kind of hidden away from sight but I am considering the anthracite wrap myself.
That looks awful, couldn't you have put it at the side or back?
Let us know how much it cost to supply and fit and how much it costs to run every day for a month or two.
That will put moat people off.
People refuse to give these figures, especially running costs.
No other locations it could go to meet the clearances.
Unfortunately that’s the only location with the correct clearances.
Cost all depends on so many variables and if you can get the bus grant of £7500 to help with the initial outlay.
These type of jobs cost between 3-7k depending on what’s needed first the design criteria.
Estimated running costs for the whole year of £1200 with an overall scope of 3.7.
It’s already running at a higher scop than that and with the customer using solar, batteries and smart tariffs I would be amazed if his bill costs him more than £500 a year max total.
You can calculate running costs from various dashboards of installs. Heat Geeks have a 'leaderboard' of sorts for a lot of their installs. You can see the kWh used per day, and we know the cost of electricity on various tariffs plus the standing charge.
Maybe this is something that could be added to the heat geeks website? It'd be cool if you could pick an install and ask, "how much does this one cost per month on X tariff?" and perhaps even "Compare this to gas?"
If you check a recent collaboration video with SkillBuilder, Adam (from HeatGeeks) does a breakdown of comparative costs and the heat pump is substantially cheaper. The only difference is they put some extra loft installation in before fixing up the heat pump install.
Most people have uglier cars than these heat pumps...hahah!
Here's my personal real world data of the running costs throughout a whole winter.
ruclips.net/video/GM2MCaYyaHE/видео.html