Yes idk why but that doublelift podcast with caedrel and LS was so good (other than the fact that doublelift is pretty new to hosting). These two have fantastic chemistry
SERIOUSLY! This content has been so good recently LS feels so reinvigorated and Caedrel plays so well of the banter and just seems like a super nice and chill guy.
Fizz is male. The Lore and Rioters frequently refer to him with male pronouns. In Korea, He is seen as female by some people who have not read the lore. It's because his Korean voice actress is very feminine-sounding (and cute :D) This applies to Kennen too. As a result, It's a common misconception that both Fizz and Kennen's gender is female in Korea. I assure you, They are canonically a male in every country.
Gotta say I love this dynamic, LS and Caedrel both have in depth knowledge of the game. They also both have casting and co-streaming experience and not only are they funny and will have a laugh, but will also have these really entertaining and constructive debates on things they might disagree on, with not a hint of heat in sight. A really pleasant co-stream duo to watch!
Can we just take a minute to appreciate the concern for his well-being from those joining him on stream. Telling him to drink water next. Those are the best kind of friends to have
Also oddly enough, they were on an upward swing ever since they let Daenny go, and they kinda just hit critical mass and became unstoppable unless they self sabotage and draft themselves into the void.
I feel if T1 can beat GenG on the 3rd then its likely they will go 18-0 seeing as the rest of their games for regular season are against KT/DRX/AF/Freddit brion
@@OfficialZeuz yeah ofcourse as deft a decent player but its going to be way easier when you have a super star like chovy. As chovy is so good in that team and such a standout teams have to focus him making it easier for others to do their job. Best example If you don't understand what I'm saying is you have a van that can carry 100 crates and on that carrys 50. You need to transport 75. Chovy is that 100 crate van he can do the job and more. Where as the van of 50 has to do two journeys instead of one.
Streams like these I miss ls being a caster in Korea his knowledge of the game is superb there is literally a compilation of ls draft predictions that he got right it’s insane
@@dog1783 It's not really that amazing. It's a common trick by blitz's players. The minion is low and you can easily predict your adc will last hit it. I've pulled it off myself a few times, and the instance I saw it, I could already predict blitz's hook. It was definitely Keria's mistake walking up behind that low health minion, especially that close to the tower.
I love how during pics and band phase of this game. He's basically saying everything wrong with t1s composition and how it's going to fail and how they're getting countered and then at the end of the game when they win he backpedals is like there's actually nothing wrong with their team comp the this is why North America can't win worlds or even compete internationally cuz we actually don't understand the game like we think we do compared to the other regions. They're just leaps and bounds ahead of us
Today's stream joe also talked about how t1 were frustrated with their performance in game 1. In my opinion, maybe they feel like they can just outplay hle in game 1 which is why they are just picking comfort pick in that game and that's why the game 2 is just a stomp
LS, aka Liqueur Slurper, is a famous Korea-based beverage aficionado known for his passion for the inebriating and stirring up drama in the hydration community with controversial claims such as "Water is bad"
it's not just about stat gold efficiency, you are forgetting value of actives and passives. imo hullbreaker is mostly a solo q item, the stats work better e.g. the 450g in rejuv beads is worth more because lane sustain is arguably more important against uncoordinated play. especially in top now that less people run tp, bad sustain gives the enemy laner so much freedom to fuck your lane. it is akin to saying that if stats are all that mattered then champs like darius, who basically rely on their overtuned base stats, would be viable in proplay using gold efficiency as an argument i think hullbreaker rush is viable when you are being hard weaksided. but committing to hull and buying pickaxe at 10min vs 1.a gwen and 2. in an even lane state is a boris diff because you are better off adding more value in teamfights as gnar with a stride (look at their team, ryze aphelios blitz)
buying hullbreaker is playing for the 1v1. in competitive buying your mythic asap is pretty vital because you want to make plays as a top laner. hullbreaker does provide good stats, but mythics with less stats are always going to be better in competitive due to their actives/passives. you also dont want to buy an item that would be disabled for the majority of the game, which is why it is a solo q item. nobody is coordinated, so less plays are made by top laners.
Gnar lowkey a Viego counter, Gnar dies after the engage Viego gets reset but get instantly one shot because he possesed mini Gnar. Also the CC chain Gnar has really fucks Viego a lot
Just for the sake of it, We in Korea just pronounce zeus as ze-us, and since korean casters obviously pronounce zeus like that I think western casters and others have just come on board with saying his name that way
thanks for the content love these co streams not too sure about the "spoiler" in the title, yes I know the games happen couple of days ago or w/e but kind of wish you made it like your other titles
I absolutely love having two very knowledge peolpe invidiuals, with pretty different fundamental take on the game, discuss League. This is way better than echo chamber analysis desks etc, I love this stuff.
Im the same way LS. I have alot of walls built up from day to day life, and by keeping myself busy I stop thinking about my emotions and how I feel. When I drink, Im able to think and feel those things, and decompress everything Ive built up, if only for a moment. I also have a solid alcohol tolerance so, it takes quite a few to get me goin as well.
I like that LS is judging the game through the draft and team compositions. That makes the judgment fair and gives each team their due diligence. He judges them not based on nameplates but by the game itself. If we base it on skill and names, T1 still win. But if its drafting and team comps, HLE have an advantage.
In this video, he's using "vacuum" to mean "1v1 matchup." For example, there are certain lane matchups, where, if the rest of the game didn't matter and all you were trying to do was play the entire game in one lane, 1v1, no teammates, no neutral objectives, etc., one champion is favored to win against another. "In a vacuum" is a common idiom which basically means "disregarding everything else." In physics, lots of laws of motion are thought about as in a vacuum, i.e. disregarding friction or air resistance and other effects which wouldn't be present in a vacuum.
@@markovchainz8314 Most of the time the devoured person ends up running from the fight. You can count on your hand how many times they keep fighting after being devoured in pro games.
Why cant you hear LS in the background? I mean, he asked Caedrel who he thinks wins draft and the game and why would he do that if he already saw&commented the game ?
They're drafting bad comps and is trying to win with bad comps, if they win with a bad comp, that would mean that they are better. They have done this the first time they fought against Zeri
As a coach who has gotten rated the worst coach in my league, simply because ive done things like actively draft blitzcrank, super great to hear LS's opinion be one of my own as well.
Can I just say - no one calls soda pop - we just say soft drink or fizzy drink but no one really calls it that either, we just say the exact drink we wanna have
I always kinda find it hard to watch whenever LS is casting games as he always talks over actions and moments during the game and it kinda seems like it is just a background to his discussion at some point. No shade tho, just a small critic from someone who genuily wants to regularly watch his stream. But it seems like his audience don’t mind it so I get why it's been like this.
Amoranth is a flower. Soda is said almost everywhere. I only hear pop in rural places like PA. Texas says coke for everything. (ie I want a coke. What kind? Grape.)
You buy the hullbreaker as the backup but its not the main goal. Or the sea biscuit mentality to let them think they have the advantage or they know your plan via build path only.
I don't feel weird about Zeus' name pronunciation. I am bilingual and the way they pronounce it, is exactly how you pronounce it in Spanish. It actually sound better for me than its pronunciation in English.
It's so refreshing to see two different, equally well thought out and reasoned opinions on draft/game
Same
especially when they are from strong draft philosophies
I watched the stream and the 2 are very good together. Very respectful and u understanding of each others opinions
@@youngcitybandit just from this vid, I can feel mutual respect in eachothers opinions and takes on the game. Very nice to have such a thing😁
Yy same
Caedrel talking about how he'll have a slipup soon, just minutes before he calls fizz a shemale is really funny to me
Love the costreams and synergy between LS & Caedrel. Both are very knowledgeable and it’s exciting to watch them discuss draft and game states.
Yes idk why but that doublelift podcast with caedrel and LS was so good (other than the fact that doublelift is pretty new to hosting). These two have fantastic chemistry
SERIOUSLY! This content has been so good recently LS feels so reinvigorated and Caedrel plays so well of the banter and just seems like a super nice and chill guy.
LS is quite dumb here. Draft doesnt matt3r with this roster gap... its not like players dont matter lol
Fizz is male. The Lore and Rioters frequently refer to him with male pronouns.
In Korea, He is seen as female by some people who have not read the lore. It's because his Korean voice actress is very feminine-sounding (and cute :D) This applies to Kennen too. As a result, It's a common misconception that both Fizz and Kennen's gender is female in Korea. I assure you, They are canonically a male in every country.
r/fizzmains
@@utkarshsh you dont have to main fizz to know that. In other languages Fizz has male voice.
Yeah it's weird
Fizz in anywhere around the world sounds like gremlin lol
caedrel later googled it and told LS that fizz is male. And then they started blaming each other for creating the confusion xD
It's the same issue with Poison from street fighter. Was originally made female. Western Karen's changed it to male but kept the model. All the menes.
the alcohol leaving his body when he starts to explain hle's draft edge
Gotta say I love this dynamic, LS and Caedrel both have in depth knowledge of the game. They also both have casting and co-streaming experience and not only are they funny and will have a laugh, but will also have these really entertaining and constructive debates on things they might disagree on, with not a hint of heat in sight. A really pleasant co-stream duo to watch!
Caedrel is so good for LS. I could feel the calm perspective he brings. The boss voice doesn't hurt haha.
Someone like caedrel engaging with LS in a good faith and respectful discussion is refreshing
Can we just take a minute to appreciate the concern for his well-being from those joining him on stream. Telling him to drink water next. Those are the best kind of friends to have
12-0 not surprised. Last year we were talking about how this team just needed experience. They got it and are showing out as a result
Also oddly enough, they were on an upward swing ever since they let Daenny go, and they kinda just hit critical mass and became unstoppable unless they self sabotage and draft themselves into the void.
Canna and Cuzz were trash
I feel if T1 can beat GenG on the 3rd then its likely they will go 18-0 seeing as the rest of their games for regular season are against KT/DRX/AF/Freddit brion
@@erkkadzai8226 this, 200%
@@m4ng4n I would not say Canna was trash lmfao
8:28 I'm more impressed with the Faker dodge than the hook honestly.
I love how the second HLE loses chovy they sink like the titanic
Boi, who would of known losing a world class tier player on a sub optimal team would cause such a downfall. I never.
@@maskedkitsune9774 nobody knew
well deft did half the work too
@@OfficialZeuz yeah ofcourse as deft a decent player but its going to be way easier when you have a super star like chovy. As chovy is so good in that team and such a standout teams have to focus him making it easier for others to do their job. Best example If you don't understand what I'm saying is you have a van that can carry 100 crates and on that carrys 50. You need to transport 75. Chovy is that 100 crate van he can do the job and more. Where as the van of 50 has to do two journeys instead of one.
@@maskedkitsune9774 the worst analogy ever
As much as I loved c9 ls I'm happy costreams are back
We've won... but at what cost ?
Based
The fizz-talk at the end was hilarious
T1 is known to int draft and games when up against weak teams.
when they be be for funning the 1st game and demolish the 2nd
Streams like these I miss ls being a caster in Korea his knowledge of the game is superb there is literally a compilation of ls draft predictions that he got right it’s insane
They totally ignore the fact that blitz hooked thresh because he killed a minion with DeMat in the perfect moment. That play was crazy! 5:50
I noticed that because of your comment!
Not true. Thresh uses demat not blitz. Aph kills the minion with an aa
@@dog1783 It's not really that amazing. It's a common trick by blitz's players. The minion is low and you can easily predict your adc will last hit it. I've pulled it off myself a few times, and the instance I saw it, I could already predict blitz's hook. It was definitely Keria's mistake walking up behind that low health minion, especially that close to the tower.
@@Secret_Moon true
It was cool but as stated above that's basic blitz mechanics, Keria fault (or maybe Keria trying to block it for Guma but I doubt it)
10:11 "This game is over" (he means over for T1)
12:19 "This game is over" (he means over for HLE)
like wtf, make up your mind LS xD
Thanks for the T1 content as always LS! keep up the good work and looking forward for more T1 contents in the future!
I love this dynamic literally the definition of. Thesis and anithesis coming together to perform synthesis .
LS aka Liquor Shot is the former C9 head coach who the holy book of Morello to NA.
I love how during pics and band phase of this game. He's basically saying everything wrong with t1s composition and how it's going to fail and how they're getting countered and then at the end of the game when they win he backpedals is like there's actually nothing wrong with their team comp the this is why North America can't win worlds or even compete internationally cuz we actually don't understand the game like we think we do compared to the other regions. They're just leaps and bounds ahead of us
Yeah I noticed that too. As soon as they’re about to win he’s like “well T1 win this from draft”…
LOL FINALLY someone exposing him instead of going “oh I love how they give opinions on the game blah blah blah” LS isn’t an analysis god rofl
He covers his ass by saying oh it’s not the comp gap but player gap. Like …???
love that caedrel actually challenges LS takes, leads to genuinely good conversation.
Today's stream joe also talked about how t1 were frustrated with their performance in game 1. In my opinion, maybe they feel like they can just outplay hle in game 1 which is why they are just picking comfort pick in that game and that's why the game 2 is just a stomp
Caerdel + LS is a dream team for me thanks for bringing it to life!
Caedrel LS I love you so much together MY FAV DUO PLS STAY TOGETHER KEEP IT UP KEEP EDUCATING US BRONZIES
This duo is awesome!!! More LS / Caedrel
LS, aka Liqueur Slurper, is a famous Korea-based beverage aficionado known for his passion for the inebriating and stirring up drama in the hydration community with controversial claims such as "Water is bad"
LS, aka "Loves Soju"
9:10
Hull breaker is 116% gold efficient without passive, it’s stats are still good with other people around.
it's not just about stat gold efficiency, you are forgetting value of actives and passives. imo hullbreaker is mostly a solo q item, the stats work better e.g. the 450g in rejuv beads is worth more because lane sustain is arguably more important against uncoordinated play. especially in top now that less people run tp, bad sustain gives the enemy laner so much freedom to fuck your lane. it is akin to saying that if stats are all that mattered then champs like darius, who basically rely on their overtuned base stats, would be viable in proplay using gold efficiency as an argument
i think hullbreaker rush is viable when you are being hard weaksided. but committing to hull and buying pickaxe at 10min vs 1.a gwen and 2. in an even lane state is a boris diff because you are better off adding more value in teamfights as gnar with a stride (look at their team, ryze aphelios blitz)
buying hullbreaker is playing for the 1v1. in competitive buying your mythic asap is pretty vital because you want to make plays as a top laner. hullbreaker does provide good stats, but mythics with less stats are always going to be better in competitive due to their actives/passives. you also dont want to buy an item that would be disabled for the majority of the game, which is why it is a solo q item. nobody is coordinated, so less plays are made by top laners.
“Amouranth is like a liquor” was easily the best part of the stream
Loved the subplot of Cadreal being the older brother taking care of LS
18:50
Caedrel: I'm gonna have a slipup one day
30 seconds later
Caedrel: Fizz is shemale
I live for these LS Caedrel casts.
Gnar lowkey a Viego counter, Gnar dies after the engage Viego gets reset but get instantly one shot because he possesed mini Gnar. Also the CC chain Gnar has really fucks Viego a lot
Just for the sake of it,
We in Korea just pronounce zeus as ze-us, and since korean casters obviously pronounce zeus like that I think western casters and others have just come on board with saying his name that way
thanks for the content love these co streams not too sure about the "spoiler" in the title, yes I know the games happen couple of days ago or w/e but kind of wish you made it like your other titles
It's uploaded a day later. No spoilers rly
@@Money_2030 still a spoiler if you only watch this channel
Pretty concerned I hope LS is okay, he looked pretty well drunk there ...
i doubt he drinks a lot. getting drunk every once in a while is fine, unless you have untreated depression.
Hey ls what do you think about press the attack on fizz
I absolutely love having two very knowledge peolpe invidiuals, with pretty different fundamental take on the game, discuss League. This is way better than echo chamber analysis desks etc, I love this stuff.
Watching HLE vs T1 makes me feel like my silver teammates aren't that bad
Just based on the beginning aspect of the video, I think they should consider the skill aspect of each pro as well. That’s just how I see it.
Plz more LS/Caedrel, best viewing experience to date bar none
Im the same way LS. I have alot of walls built up from day to day life, and by keeping myself busy I stop thinking about my emotions and how I feel. When I drink, Im able to think and feel those things, and decompress everything Ive built up, if only for a moment. I also have a solid alcohol tolerance so, it takes quite a few to get me goin as well.
13:12 you stated T1’s draft wasn’t a problem but during draft phase you said they lose because of their draft 00:30. Confuse.
Notice me senpai and respond to your words.
with no Khan in DK anymore, this is definitely gonna be T1 year to win worlds.
I like that LS is judging the game through the draft and team compositions. That makes the judgment fair and gives each team their due diligence. He judges them not based on nameplates but by the game itself. If we base it on skill and names, T1 still win. But if its drafting and team comps, HLE have an advantage.
hello i have a question. What does LS mean with "vacuum" when it comes to LoL termini
In this video, he's using "vacuum" to mean "1v1 matchup." For example, there are certain lane matchups, where, if the rest of the game didn't matter and all you were trying to do was play the entire game in one lane, 1v1, no teammates, no neutral objectives, etc., one champion is favored to win against another. "In a vacuum" is a common idiom which basically means "disregarding everything else." In physics, lots of laws of motion are thought about as in a vacuum, i.e. disregarding friction or air resistance and other effects which wouldn't be present in a vacuum.
which mythic do you recommend on fizz?
I’ve really began to love both y’all’s co-streams, refreshing takes and just all around comedic as well ❤️
The setup and payoff for the slip up conversation killed me lmfao
lmao that drunk rant 14:00
This is genuinely refreshing and enjoyable to watch.
16:18 a rare time when the shield from tahm kench R actually matters.
Why do you say this is rare? I feel like the shield often is very helpful
@@markovchainz8314 Most of the time the devoured person ends up running from the fight. You can count on your hand how many times they keep fighting after being devoured in pro games.
what does vacuum mean the way they are using it?
On its own. Without external influence
@@Luckyshoo thanks
More LS Cathedral plz, two different analysts with two different play style having a healthy debate about the game is what we need rn.
Don't apologize for what you classified Fizz as, that was amazing
Drunk LS in the later half of the video made my heart all warm ❤️
Caedrel: "Amaretto is really nice"
LS: *Loses his shit*
Idk where Caedrel is from in the UK. But no one calls it pop 🤣
Love you LS keep it up. I play Fizz with Zhonyas Lich bane and Liandry, burn is good with his W passive and lots of cdr.
Why cant you hear LS in the background? I mean, he asked Caedrel who he thinks wins draft and the game and why would he do that if he already saw&commented the game ?
Much love to you, wherever you go, Good Luck!
They're drafting bad comps and is trying to win with bad comps, if they win with a bad comp, that would mean that they are better. They have done this the first time they fought against Zeri
Caedral: ill have my slip up every caster has one
Later in video
Caedral: shemale
I feel better now that your back also same on the drinking stay happy you’re amazing
What name were they talking about being changed? Is there a Korean name that is close to an English cuss word?
i love that other regions actually play more than bo1
welcome back to the lck, sry i was late on this
yo that inner emotion talk is me when drinking
LS I get exactly what you mean regarding alcohol it's always reminds me of this drake bar "Never get sloppy drunk, but alcohol is problem solvin'"
LS values viego a lot but he doesn't seem to work so far. Resets are good but can't reset if you can't kill the enemy.
the brits call it Fizz/fizzy drink not pop. Pop was like 60 years ago XD
As a coach who has gotten rated the worst coach in my league, simply because ive done things like actively draft blitzcrank, super great to hear LS's opinion be one of my own as well.
thanks for the daily uploads, i oftently cant watch the stream cuz of the timezone
I like this style LS the best
Tbf it is not only faker that is 12-0, the entire T1 is 12-0
T1 Zeus Gnar is Maybe the Best in the world. This guy is a Menace. If u see some clips with him on gnar it's like watching a Robot
13:29 when your uncle goes through his 3rd divorce and you’re sitting on the couch at 13 years old while he rants to you
We here for you homie !
Fizz's build order that would make him competitive in pro play is 6 stopwatches into 6 deathcaps.
I can't understand why guma would go for kraken instead of galeforce (i mean, just because i don't know). And why you would go each of them xd
In case anyone is wondering: The name change argument is about Nuguri.
"Fizz is a shemale" I laughed so fucking hard lol. Especially when you think about that one emote of fizz waving his hand XD
Love this video! Hoping to see LS, Caedral, and Dom!
Hey LS, it's everyone.
Can I just say - no one calls soda pop - we just say soft drink or fizzy drink but no one really calls it that either, we just say the exact drink we wanna have
Im pretty that depends on the region. Two of my friends call soda "pop", and I call soda "fizzys" lul
@@markwalden2433 Fair, Im from Essex and in london for a while - no one speaks like that here it seems. Maybe a granny back in the day
ls said 30 times "It´s over". I hate that so much. It´s like playing soloq and your team loses it at min 10.
gold and draft differences are much more important when you know how to use them
yeah it gets really annoying,
after every play they just scream it's over no matter which team is on the winning end
its because not many team can throw like G2
1:00 lmao i was jokingly thinking he talks like he's drunk, and turns out he's actually drunk!
I always kinda find it hard to watch whenever LS is casting games as he always talks over actions and moments during the game and it kinda seems like it is just a background to his discussion at some point. No shade tho, just a small critic from someone who genuily wants to regularly watch his stream. But it seems like his audience don’t mind it so I get why it's been like this.
Amoranth is a flower.
Soda is said almost everywhere. I only hear pop in rural places like PA. Texas says coke for everything. (ie I want a coke. What kind? Grape.)
They call it pop because when you open the can it goes *POP* -Sincerely, midwestern guy.
LS should do reaction game more often since he is not coaching NA anymore.
From Faker himself - "If you play good, then it's good"
Just like a title I saw on a channel I watch a lot, I'll say it here too.
*T1 haters in shambles KEKW*
You buy the hullbreaker as the backup but its not the main goal. Or the sea biscuit mentality to let them think they have the advantage or they know your plan via build path only.
No one in the UK says Soda or Pop its a "soft drink", "fizzy drink" or just usually the exact name of the drink lol.
I don't feel weird about Zeus' name pronunciation. I am bilingual and the way they pronounce it, is exactly how you pronounce it in Spanish. It actually sound better for me than its pronunciation in English.
we do a little trolling
This is pretty neat but Faker in the end is the only person that wears different shoes for his outfit.
Meanwhile in Australia we call pop/soda 'fizzy'
Australia represent!