I actually would like to remind people, that the dragon parents are such horrible parents in WOF, that Tui specifically thanked her parents for not being like them in The Lost Continent. I just find that so interesting and kinda hilarious.
Riptide’s character was COMPLETELY WASTED. He could’ve had such a better role to play but he was written as a vanilla Chad. He could’ve been so interesting. Justice for Riptide!
When you did your "ranking wings of fire characters" video and you got to riptide I had to pause the video to remember who he was and I didn't remember until I unpaused and you mentioned ripnami.
'I hate Dragonshe-' NO. NO. NO. DEATH. Also, MudWings are overhated, and they are one of my fav tribes because 6 yr olds don't understand that at least the MudWings are a decently moral and non-overpowered tribe :]
Yes, I agree, MudWings are underrated! Not to underpowered or overpowered, pretty well balanced. They are adorable little mud blobs :) Though, some of my friends are kinda... *OBSESSED* with MudWings, and I do think that their loved for the blobs are a little much, but MudWings are underrated
The non overpowered thing didn't have to come with them being so bland though let's be honest...like the only thing separat I ng mudwings from just some gators on steroids is wings. Like to balance it out we coulda gotten more into what makes mudwings mudwings, and why we should care but tui didn't do that she kinda just went "here's some himbo dragons...moving on"
The Dark Secret is honestly such a good book though. Starflights developement, the whole atmosphere.. I instantly liked it and it stood out amongst the other books of the first arc. The only thing I didn't really like was the constant presence of Fatespeaker. I know she's supposed to be Starflights "light at the end of the tunnel" but she can get pretty annoying and I feel like her personality is maybe a little much for him. She's the kind of character you'd expect Sunny to be at first. "I love Fatespeaker, sehr was great" is definetly another thing a lot of people wouldn't say lmao Oh yeah and Riptide was the squidbrain guy
i thought my sister was the only person in the world who thought fatespeaker was annoying XD fatespeaker is my second favorite character :) (peril is my most favorite)
Ok but for me the graphic novels are actually kind of good.. I don’t like how they took out some of the stuff from the regular books, but I like admiring the art because I could never draw like that-
For me they’re badly drawn, and have no consideration for charadesign or composition. Of course that does not mean everyone could draw that, but for a professional book it’s a shame. If you like the art that’s cool for you, I just wouldn’t advice to take it as a reference.
Honestly Whirlpool sorta confused me in the second book, like how everyone just hates him for how he naturally is, and I don’t remember ever reading why he attacked Tsunami, and then he dies so quickly and suddenly and no one really seems to care after his death
@@DinosaurTVOfficial He could have been great if he showed up longer, had SO MUCH potential honestly. He could have made for an almost comedic side villain, a minor foil with a lot of stage presence simply with how terrible he is.
ok, ik its completely off topic, but what rlly triggers me is the fact my favourite ship is moonbli. I mean, moonbli is basically canon now because in book 15 flames of hope Luna guessed that Qibli was 'her Swordtail' from the way they looked at each other, and the fact that they slept side by side every night on the trip to Pantala
A lot of these are actually opinions that people have. I don't agree with a lot of them, but The Dark Secret is actually one of my favorite books of WoF. Not my absolute favorite but a great book
I actually like Anemone and Anemone x Tamarin… I’ve read the whole series and still genuinely like them I feel like a lot of Anemone’s hate is undeserved when so many people LOVE Darkstalker Like- she’s not half as bad… and she’s still learning but most of her life so far has been spent in a bait-and-switch between control/abuse and pampering?
honestly i never really thought about how young anenome is and how mainly all her relationships with other dragons were incredibly toxic. you make a really good point, thank you for saying that bc it definitely needs to be said more
Thank you! I’ve seen so many fans hate Anemone because she was actually affected by the stuff she went through. The same goes for other characters who actually seemed to be affected by what happened to them, exceptions being dragonets that act like toddlers. I like to call this “Mable Syndrome,” where a young character is hated by the surrounding fans for messing up once or twice when there are clear worse characters that are beloved. Darkstalker is a horrible dragon, and yet people seem to forgive him on a whim while claiming that Anemone is a whiny, selfish brat when the only person she has ever killed was A PREDATOR THAT PLANNED TO MARRY HER WHEN SHE CAME OF AGE and Darkstalker killed his literal father, willingly traumatizing his sister, “girlfriend,” best friend, and ENTIRE TRIBE.
Personally, I love Anemone, and one of my favorite ships are Anemone X Tamarin. No I do not agree with Anemone’s behavior throughout a majority of the 2nd arc, however I love her character development and I loved to see how she changed. Also I cannot blame her, growing up as a princess who always had everything right at her talons, it kinda would become nature after it is repeated over and over again, and she got so used to it she was like that even outside of her kingdom. It took her a long time for her to discover that it was not right, and she’s probably still adjusting to it all. Anemone is young, she is learning and I love watching her grow and see her love for her brother Turtle after they came to terms after the animus battle.
Someone:"Mudwings ore litraly the colours of shit" Me: wow...considering they can name themselves by choice. I would be surprised if they're was actually a mudwing named "shit"
@@S0fizzy being in a roleplay with no swearing be like: "Hey, Sh***** is a bad word!" " Shit is my mudwing's name" "Bu-" "ALSO THEY HAVE THE SAME COLOURS AS SH-" *you have been banned from **-roleplay server-*
It's the fact that about half of the major problems in this book series could have been avoided if the dragons with animus powers actually stopped for a moment and thought before they cast a spell
I personally like the graphic novel. My favorite one being the one for the rainforest, I enjoy seeing the dragons I've known to love drawn in a few way :3
Lmao unpopular opinion. I don't see moon as a Mary Sue, but I can see why a lot of ppl see her that way. I have a bias cause I relate so hard with her social anxiety and fears of being hated if she is herself.
Her being unable to block other people’s thoughts reminded me a lot of overstimulation. I’m autistic and I felt exactly the same way hearing everyone talk during lunch at school
Anemone is actually my 2nd favorite character, and I think Anemarin would be a really cute couple! They're not my OTP, but they're my 2nd or 3rd :) my top 3 favorite wof ships: Qinter!!! Turtlejou
I remember drawing a fanfic where whirlpool had a sister who killed an animus because she learned he died and a nephew who has been played but is still is friends.
Graphic novels are not bad at all. I actually started Wings of Fire on graphic novel 2, which then led to me making it my all time favorite book series ever, and I wouldn't be commenting this write now without graphic novels.
The Sunlow and Dragonsheep ones- Sunlow is one of my absolute favorite ships ever, and Dragonsheep was my biggest WoF inspiration to start making digital art of it Edit: also the MudWing one, I like MudWings actually
While I wouldn't necessarily call the forth book my most favorite, I did actually really like it. The lore about the Nightwings was really interesting too. Coming from a guy who's favorite tribe is the Nightwings. Right next to the Rainwings. I'd say my favorite book was actually the 14th one. The 15th was awesome too but lacked so much potential and very much needed context that it failed to add. Very disappointing in that regard.
Yeah it isn’t that overpowerd. It just made a dragon kill almost everyone in his tribe. A dragon made his father disassemble himself infront of everyone. But you know its just harmless 😊
I LOVE STARFLIGHT he and moon and cricket are my faves. And no. Moon is not a Mary Sue. The graphic novels are honestly great for what they are. Scavengers are actually quite interesting, but come on, they’re no dragons! I do remember riptide, but I’ve read all the books FAAAAR too many times lol. Sunlow I feel crosses from “true love” into “supreme tail-kissing” and as a result I never got past the first few chapters of book 13, and read the wiki summary instead. Despite that I still love arc three though!
like, the dark secret was an over all, ok book. but as soon as you say "scavengers were my favorite part!" nah, nah, nah, we are NOT doing this today, GOODBYE
My hot takes on this wof: Willow and sundew I do not like I’m sorry I personally love the graphic novel series (but I love the regular books too) Moon watcher isn’t much of a Mary Sue (from what I’ve seen. Yes I have read all the books.) I love both winterwatcher and moonbli Arc 1 was not the best arc
Not me who actually likes Starflight's book, simply because it's from his pov... He's my favorite character. Please don't yell at me, he was very brave for what he went through and considering what a coward he seemed to be.
I don't remember if it was a thread of "What's your favorite villain?" or "What's your favorite character?" but, someone said they liked Whirlpool because he was a cunning villain and yeah.... I said "Whyyyy" and people attacked me and said "Everyone has their own opinions so shut up your attacking them for no reason!!!" and stuff like that 0.0
I sorta meant it in a way like- when people ONLY read the graphic novels and have some sort of grudge against the novels. I also found wof from the graphic novels, but I quickly read the novels. I love the graphic novels! I just don’t like it when people just assume that the graphic novels are better without reading the novels.
I read the graphic novels first cause I couldn’t find the others and wanted to know what the people around me with similar interests meant when they started talking about wings of fire. I thought I’d like it: here I am.
I think things that should be added to "Wings of Fire" fans never say. "Darkstalker shall rise again!" Because you know making earrings that cancel Darkstalkers spells and giving them to literally every Dragon in Pyrrhia isn't a recipe for disaster or anything.
1:15 I mean... if you're gonna call her a mary sue then you better call Clearsight and Darkstalker mary sues... Also at least her book is good (in my opinion,) whereas another mary sue (arguably?) Harry potter (i despise him, I dont despise the movies (i havent read the books) but i despise the character harry potter) makes the movies almost unwatchable.
I present to you: my sexuality headcannons for the jade winglet. Winter: Bisexual Qibli: pansexual Moon: pansexual (only because I feel like I’ll be killed for calling her lesbian. She just gives off those vibes y’know?) Turtle: straight Kinkajou: lesbian Umber: gay (I can not imagine him with any female dragon. At all) Peril: straight (though I think she could pull off lesbian too, she just doesn’t give off bi or pan energy) That skywing that I will forever forget the name of, carnelian or smth idk: hardcore lesbian
I mean some people like the novels and think the graphic novels are a little bit bad but in my opinion, I really just like seeing that art if it’s a novel I won’t get hooked because there’s no pictures or color
Arctic was such a good father Whirlpool should never have died I ship Anemone x whirlpool Peril is a monster Ex-Queen Scarlet never deserved to die Orca should have beat Queen Coral Queen Coral was such a great mother Thorn should never have been queen of the Sandwings If anyone says any of these their either not a true fan, want to trigger you, or have started a fan-group of all cursed Wings of Fire things and are planning to take Tui down with it
By the way, this is why animus magic is not too overpowered. I mean, Orca definitely should have beaten Queen Coral. Literally, all it took was to say I enchant this dragon to die. Instead, the overpowered animus dragon just fell on a narwal horn? Second point. Arctic was not a great father, but, oh god, I have seen worse IRL. Much worse. Third point. I think what might really have worked as a great setup for a nice story would be Darkstalker sort of teaming up with Queen Scarlet, but in fact use it for his own benefit. So much potential for great storytelling there.
I genuinely injoy the graphic novels- i have a hard time imagining thing is the same art style and i generally get sidetracked by everything possible, my mind is just like "Oh shit i got homework- and it's Monday! I hate mondays. Im bored, am i hungry? When will i die? Where are the dogs?? Oh there they are, phew!" Etc etc.
Don’t worry I’m not mad at all 👌, (by the way I haven’t read all the books yet) I know it’s just an experiment video, I did read the video description, also your awesome Cryosphere 👏👍😎😊
Attack me if you want but my favorite book for the first arc is Starflight's book The Dark Secret. I think it expanded on Starflights character quite a bit and it let us know why the Nightwings were so desperate. I honestly feel bad for the Nightwings because almost immediately after they finally started getting their lives back on track in the rainforest Darkstalker comes in as the guy with "free candy" and baits them into dying for a war that is only for petty revenge. Also yes before you ask I am one of the people who thinks animus magic is not a born curse. You don't lose your soul by using your magic. Fathom was living proof of that since he lived a happy life in the end with Indigo. It's like what people say about video games. It's not the games causing you to do bad stuff it's your own life choices that make it that way for you. That is all I have to say.
I always want a sequel on the grown up Sunny. There are characters who develop certain traits much later in the life. Her mother is Queen now, her father is an animus. She may be timid but she is not dumb. She is descended from extremely cunning Sandwing and a Nightwing. Shame that she didn't hatch under the Moons, but what if they did shine through the skyhole under the mountain? People tend to overlook the potential, which is much higher than, say, even Glory or Tsunami.
@ I don’t like her because she is timid. If anything I don’t really like any of the characters in the five books, and the ones in 6-10 are okay and same with 11-15. I only read the books for the plot/story
@@MYSTERYFire Let me think... Typically the greatest characters are the villains - Morrowseer, Blister, Scarlet and such. I wish we knew more about Battlewinner. I also LOVE Peril and her mom.
@ got to agree with you. The villains were a lot better and I love Scarlet, she was a great first villain in the books. And the plot twist for the third arc was great I wasn’t expecting that at all. I have so much respect to the author
I can definitely confirm that you stated the entire truth. No wings of fire fan would ever say these things…except for about Winterwatcher and Moonbli. Those 2 ships have the cannon stamp of approval.
I like I do actually like the wings of fire graphic novels it's mainly because I can't really picture the descriptions that well and I can't really think it up that well so it kind of helps me out
If I made my own video like this, it would say something like 'saying that it's canon is a great reason/justification for why you ship something and should pester other people until they ship it too!'.
Okay, I have to break it.. I love the wings of fire graphic novel series. They are really cool for some reason. yes I read all the books. But seeing new dragons in Mike Holmes style is cool! I wonder how he draws arc 3 dragons. Literally the ONLY reason I got into wings of fire is because I was at my school library and I saw the first graphic novel and I was like: “Ooh cool dragon book” and I read it and here i am today.
Whirlpool is actually my favorite wings of fire character. like I’m not even joking The reason why is actually a bit more complicated but TLDR; morally complicated but still unredeemable slimy characters who you’d never want to meet in real life are my favorite. The treatment of characters like whirlpool are ten times more interesting than characters like darkstalker because trying to MARRY a child is slightly less redeemable in my heart than murder in a book series. Whirlpool and darkstalker have their morally GREY parts, if it weren’t for tiny snippets of redeemability they’d just be morally black. Whirlpool was only trying to marry anemone so that he could be king. Is that still ok? No! It doesn’t excuse his actions at all but it plays a very reasonable explanation for why he would do such a thing, he makes sense as a character. He’s fairly human, there are real life people that are like whirlpool and that’s why he’s so interesting to me. I wish we got more characters like him
I'm on the floor frothing up blood and screaming right now. Tossing in my grave and my eyes are red from excessive crying, how could wyou do this im so mad rn
STOP AT HAD MY PHONE AT FULL VOLUME AT 3 A.M. WHEN THE VINE BOOM PLAYED AT THE BEGINNING;
SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF ME
HAHAHAHA BEST COMMENT
@@CryosphereSubToMe OMDS THANK YOU FOR THE PIN 😭🙏🏽
I had never flinched so hard in my life 😭
I actually would like to remind people, that the dragon parents are such horrible parents in WOF, that Tui specifically thanked her parents for not being like them in The Lost Continent. I just find that so interesting and kinda hilarious.
True! I loved that! I laughed so hard cause I’d been wondering by then “Tui are you ok???”
Aren't sand wings ok at parenting?
@@andistansbury4366 umm, Cobra. Vulture.
@@andistansbury4366 just to let you know, thorn does not account for the rest of the entire tribe
Same bro
Riptide’s character was COMPLETELY WASTED. He could’ve had such a better role to play but he was written as a vanilla Chad. He could’ve been so interesting. Justice for Riptide!
vanilla chad 💀
I agree!
JUSTICE FOR RIPTIDE!!
@@_TreeDragonFury_ JUSTICE 4 RIPTIDE!!! He should at LEAST be a blueberry chad!!!
He’s not a Chad though, he ‘s just a hopeless dork lmao😂😂😂😂. What do you expect from the offspring of Webs though?
To be fair the Graphic Novels aren't too bad in my opinion. Getting the first GN at my 5th grade book fair is the only reason I'm here today!
I agree, my only problem is if you read the graphic novel before the original just because you’ll miss out on whatever was cut from the graphic novel
@@aidenl.6702 I've read through pretty much all the books now so I've got everything down for when the gns come out
@@artisticgarbage708 👍
same!
Same
"Book 4 is my favorite book in the series"
Me, after reading the Title: *sweats profusely*
Fr it's probably my favourite
Lol
I love that book 😭
I actually hate the book 😂 not really tho. I just don't really like it. And I'm a huge fan of wings of fire.
"Oh yeah, I remember who Riptide is" had me in TEARS. This video was hilarious!
When you did your "ranking wings of fire characters" video and you got to riptide I had to pause the video to remember who he was and I didn't remember until I unpaused and you mentioned ripnami.
"Oh right wasn't he Tsunami's love interest or something"
Yay dogloverlikesdoge
Oh hi moon
IM A FAN!!
'I hate Dragonshe-' NO. NO. NO. DEATH.
Also, MudWings are overhated, and they are one of my fav tribes because 6 yr olds don't understand that at least the MudWings are a decently moral and non-overpowered tribe :]
Mudwings are underrated! Justice for mudwings! Also, Dragonsheep is love, dragonsheep is life.
I think people don’t like mud wings bc they are underused in the series and barely get any screen time but yeah I wish they got more recognition
Yes, I agree, MudWings are underrated! Not to underpowered or overpowered, pretty well balanced.
They are adorable little mud blobs :)
Though, some of my friends are kinda... *OBSESSED* with MudWings, and I do think that their loved for the blobs are a little much, but MudWings are underrated
The non overpowered thing didn't have to come with them being so bland though let's be honest...like the only thing separat I ng mudwings from just some gators on steroids is wings. Like to balance it out we coulda gotten more into what makes mudwings mudwings, and why we should care but tui didn't do that she kinda just went "here's some himbo dragons...moving on"
My main oc is a mudwing ^^
Dark Secret really is criminally underrated
AGREEEEEED
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT,DARK SECRET IS TOOOOO UNDERRATED--
AGRREEEEEEEED
EXACTLY, STARFLIGHT CHANGED SO MUCH- I’m sorry but I’m unhealthily obsessed w that scene where Glory saves Deathbringer… couple goals.
Im almost done it and i love it
“It wasn’t even that violent”
*also shows a scene where Kestrel is stabbed in the chest all the way through her body* 1:28
The Dark Secret is honestly such a good book though. Starflights developement, the whole atmosphere.. I instantly liked it and it stood out amongst the other books of the first arc.
The only thing I didn't really like was the constant presence of Fatespeaker. I know she's supposed to be Starflights "light at the end of the tunnel" but she can get pretty annoying and I feel like her personality is maybe a little much for him. She's the kind of character you'd expect Sunny to be at first.
"I love Fatespeaker, sehr was great" is definetly another thing a lot of people wouldn't say lmao
Oh yeah and Riptide was the squidbrain guy
I would say I love Fatespeaker.because I do.y o u u n d e r r e s t I m a t e m y p o w e r .
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS!!! Besides the Riptide part, though --- I literally painted Riptide on a T-shirt.
It is was my favorite book but then I got the 5th book but it will always be second 🥈
i thought my sister was the only person in the world who thought fatespeaker was annoying XD
fatespeaker is my second favorite character :)
(peril is my most favorite)
Starflight!!! And I really like starspeaker.
Ok but for me the graphic novels are actually kind of good..
I don’t like how they took out some of the stuff from the regular books, but I like admiring the art because I could never draw like that-
ssaame i remember whipping out the gn book and take references from it
@@howtodrinkwaterin5simplesteps girl same, also I havent read past book 8 yet oops
For me they’re badly drawn, and have no consideration for charadesign or composition. Of course that does not mean everyone could draw that, but for a professional book it’s a shame. If you like the art that’s cool for you, I just wouldn’t advice to take it as a reference.
@@marougusthedragon it looks fine when it's anything other than dragons. the dragons just simply look too humanoid
Honestly, the fun part was whenever the opposite of what you say got me triggered.
I feel I'm The only one who loves The Dark Secret. Also RIPtide.
BRO THE DARK SECRET IS ONE OF MY FAVS TOO. Made me kin Starflight...
Nah i also like The Dark Secret
I like Riptide and the dark Secret too. I felt so bad for Starflight when he was blinded...
Ur not
@@ExploreTheWorld_9-c3u I still try not to cry when I think about it.
Whirlpool is by far my favourite character, his arc was amazing, he learned a lot when he got zapped by eels!
I made a WOF oc that's literally just Whirlpool's dad. His name is Tidepool and he's basically Cave Johnson as a dragon
Honestly Whirlpool sorta confused me in the second book, like how everyone just hates him for how he naturally is, and I don’t remember ever reading why he attacked Tsunami, and then he dies so quickly and suddenly and no one really seems to care after his death
@@DinosaurTVOfficial He could have been great if he showed up longer, had SO MUCH potential honestly. He could have made for an almost comedic side villain, a minor foil with a lot of stage presence simply with how terrible he is.
ok, ik its completely off topic, but what rlly triggers me is the fact my favourite ship is moonbli. I mean, moonbli is basically canon now because in book 15 flames of hope Luna guessed that Qibli was 'her Swordtail' from the way they looked at each other, and the fact that they slept side by side every night on the trip to Pantala
@@Coconuttty3 So what's the triggering part? Isn't it good that your favorite ship pulled through?
Someone who says Starflight’s book, The Dark Secret is their favorite. Deserves nothing else except respect, a truly underrated book in the series.
Really? Thank you, I felt attacked by this video.
Yay someone appreciated my boi starflight
A lot of these are actually opinions that people have. I don't agree with a lot of them, but The Dark Secret is actually one of my favorite books of WoF. Not my absolute favorite but a great book
I actually like Anemone and Anemone x Tamarin…
I’ve read the whole series and still genuinely like them
I feel like a lot of Anemone’s hate is undeserved when so many people LOVE Darkstalker
Like- she’s not half as bad… and she’s still learning but most of her life so far has been spent in a bait-and-switch between control/abuse and pampering?
Sammmme
It’s one of the best ships
honestly i never really thought about how young anenome is and how mainly all her relationships with other dragons were incredibly toxic. you make a really good point, thank you for saying that bc it definitely needs to be said more
Thank you! I’ve seen so many fans hate Anemone because she was actually affected by the stuff she went through. The same goes for other characters who actually seemed to be affected by what happened to them, exceptions being dragonets that act like toddlers. I like to call this “Mable Syndrome,” where a young character is hated by the surrounding fans for messing up once or twice when there are clear worse characters that are beloved. Darkstalker is a horrible dragon, and yet people seem to forgive him on a whim while claiming that Anemone is a whiny, selfish brat when the only person she has ever killed was A PREDATOR THAT PLANNED TO MARRY HER WHEN SHE CAME OF AGE and Darkstalker killed his literal father, willingly traumatizing his sister, “girlfriend,” best friend, and ENTIRE TRIBE.
Yeah I also don’t think Anemone and Tamarin are bad, I think Tamarin would actually be good for Anemone and Anemone would be good for Tamarin :]
Personally, I love Anemone, and one of my favorite ships are Anemone X Tamarin. No I do not agree with Anemone’s behavior throughout a majority of the 2nd arc, however I love her character development and I loved to see how she changed. Also I cannot blame her, growing up as a princess who always had everything right at her talons, it kinda would become nature after it is repeated over and over again, and she got so used to it she was like that even outside of her kingdom. It took her a long time for her to discover that it was not right, and she’s probably still adjusting to it all.
Anemone is young, she is learning and I love watching her grow and see her love for her brother Turtle after they came to terms after the animus battle.
Someone:"Mudwings ore litraly the colours of shit"
Me: wow...considering they can name themselves by choice. I would be surprised if they're was actually a mudwing named "shit"
lol good one
Omg lol
Shhh...
Do you hear that?
*~new oc time~*
@@S0fizzy being in a roleplay with no swearing be like:
"Hey, Sh***** is a bad word!"
" Shit is my mudwing's name"
"Bu-"
"ALSO THEY HAVE THE SAME COLOURS AS SH-"
*you have been banned from **-roleplay server-*
I have a mudwing seawing hybrid named newt, i forgor she existed 💀
...I actually think that the dark secret is ok. It's my favorite book in the first arc. The graphic novels aren't that bad either...
It's the fact that about half of the major problems in this book series could have been avoided if the dragons with animus powers actually stopped for a moment and thought before they cast a spell
Yes. I also love how you can tell when writing arc three Tui had a sudden panic over animus magic and immediately deleted it.
*"Think before you act"*
Half the wof characters: That sign can't stop me because I can't read!
there are no wolves in wof
@@dtheall86 Sorry haha! I meant wof, autocorrect
@@dtheall86 there most likely are wolves, actually
I personally like the graphic novel. My favorite one being the one for the rainforest, I enjoy seeing the dragons I've known to love drawn in a few way :3
Lmao unpopular opinion. I don't see moon as a Mary Sue, but I can see why a lot of ppl see her that way.
I have a bias cause I relate so hard with her social anxiety and fears of being hated if she is herself.
Yes! I was looking for this comment!
Her being unable to block other people’s thoughts reminded me a lot of overstimulation. I’m autistic and I felt exactly the same way hearing everyone talk during lunch at school
@@normalhuman9878I just re-read and can say Moon really resonates with me as an autistic person as well!
I like Moon the most because I feel like she is the only character I can really relate to
The things I do say from this:
Oh Yeah I Remember Who Riptide Is
No, Moonwatcher Is Not A Mary Sue
Anemone is actually my 2nd favorite character, and I think Anemarin would be a really cute couple! They're not my OTP, but they're my 2nd or 3rd :)
my top 3 favorite wof ships:
Qinter!!!
Turtlejou
Yeah I also love Anemarin, but Qinter is my one true OTP.
Don't hate on mee T-T
@@potatowofawrk SAME I LOVE QINTER
@@Hepoxni :DDDDDD
YESS TEAM WINTER AND ANEMARIN
I remember drawing a fanfic where whirlpool had a sister who killed an animus because she learned he died and a nephew who has been played but is still is friends.
I actually really do love Moonbli, The Dark Secret and Anemone 😭
Fr, moobli is one of my favorite ships. It just feels right (and I love how we get a little bit of info on them in arc 3
Fr! I liked The Dark Secret :C
Same
Moonbli is the BEST
I also love Moonbli
Graphic novels are not bad at all. I actually started Wings of Fire on graphic novel 2, which then led to me making it my all time favorite book series ever, and I wouldn't be commenting this write now without graphic novels.
I don't know why everyone hates on Riptide he seems really cool🤔
what triggered you the most lol
“Wait, you actually like Sunlow? 🤨😐”
I adore these lesbians so much for no reason omg-
@@FinnTheBin I know I felt like I was sinning as I was saying it 😭😭
The Sunlow and Dragonsheep ones- Sunlow is one of my absolute favorite ships ever, and Dragonsheep was my biggest WoF inspiration to start making digital art of it
Edit: also the MudWing one, I like MudWings actually
“WoF book 4 was the best book”
As that was supposed to be false, book 4 is actually my favorite book go sue me
@@mazewingo I enjoyed Book 4, but my favorite is Book 14
I have a hard time reading the normal books cause how tf do people imagine how thr characters look without pictures
While I wouldn't necessarily call the forth book my most favorite, I did actually really like it. The lore about the Nightwings was really interesting too. Coming from a guy who's favorite tribe is the Nightwings. Right next to the Rainwings. I'd say my favorite book was actually the 14th one. The 15th was awesome too but lacked so much potential and very much needed context that it failed to add. Very disappointing in that regard.
I agree the dark secret is good, I never understood why it’s hated
The graphic novels are actually easier for me to read, that's why I prefer those.
As a wings of fire fan who only reads the graphic novels this offended me
Bro, read the main novels. You are missing half of the books
I mean Kestrel did try to save both of her children, Wren and Scarlet are the problems…
Yeah i don’t really like Wren
@@SemiQuiet26 finally someone says it
Yeah
Kestrel still sucks, remember how she treated the dragonets?
@@umbrellaisaac indeed
I’m gonna say smth, I actually really like whirlpool, yes he’s a jerk and yes he sucks but that’s why I like him, THEY MADE HIM SUCH A GOOD VILLAIN
Yeah it isn’t that overpowerd.
It just made a dragon kill almost everyone in his tribe.
A dragon made his father disassemble himself infront of everyone.
But you know its just harmless 😊
I’m only part of this community bc of the graphic novels, I couldn’t bring myself to read the first book in words
can I tell you a secret? I only read the graphic novels and then listened to the series on audio book. Never picked up the novels
I nearly had a heart attack at "i hate dragonsheep"
Whirlpool is by far the best character in ALL of the books. It’s so tragic how nobody likes him! I mean, he’s SOO charming. Who couldn’t love him?
I LOVE STARFLIGHT he and moon and cricket are my faves. And no. Moon is not a Mary Sue. The graphic novels are honestly great for what they are. Scavengers are actually quite interesting, but come on, they’re no dragons! I do remember riptide, but I’ve read all the books FAAAAR too many times lol. Sunlow I feel crosses from “true love” into “supreme tail-kissing” and as a result I never got past the first few chapters of book 13, and read the wiki summary instead. Despite that I still love arc three though!
The one reason I like the graphic novels: I like the artstyle. They also gave Qibli his earring, unlike his book cover.
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO HAVE A GOOD DAY AFTER WATCHING THIS???!!!
sorry 😞
like, the dark secret was an over all, ok book. but as soon as you say "scavengers were my favorite part!" nah, nah, nah, we are NOT doing this today, GOODBYE
A lot of the beginning for me : kalm
“Winter wasn’t that much of a jerk to moon”: PANIK
Dragonsheep is bad:
Legit DIES RIGHT ON THE SPOT
HOW DARE YOU WITH THE WHIRLPOOL AND ThE SCAVENGERS AND THE SHIPS AND THE CHILDS BOOK AND THE LAST ONE MADE ME SO MAD
I’m a really big fan of the series
My hot takes on this wof:
Willow and sundew I do not like I’m sorry
I personally love the graphic novel series (but I love the regular books too)
Moon watcher isn’t much of a Mary Sue (from what I’ve seen. Yes I have read all the books.)
I love both winterwatcher and moonbli
Arc 1 was not the best arc
SUNLOW? WHY😭
Not me who actually likes Starflight's book, simply because it's from his pov... He's my favorite character. Please don't yell at me, he was very brave for what he went through and considering what a coward he seemed to be.
I actually really liked the Rainforest, and Rainwings in general- I wish we had another Rainwing or Mudwing POV
Bruh I read the graphic novel because I like useing my imagination
Video: "I love WinterWatcher/Moonbli"
You're right, that's because Qibli and Winter are meant to be together!
No, No, AND FAWKING NO
NOOOOOOO
They should be a throuple
they ARE meant to be,and then she goes and says:I HATE Moonbli
I don't remember if it was a thread of "What's your favorite villain?" or "What's your favorite character?" but, someone said they liked Whirlpool because he was a cunning villain and yeah.... I said "Whyyyy" and people attacked me and said "Everyone has their own opinions so shut up your attacking them for no reason!!!" and stuff like that 0.0
I fought to not throw my phone out the door
I failed
That triggered me most was wings of fire is meant for kids there’s literally hundred plus deaths in the entire series
If it weren't made for kids, the proceedings and the endings would be very much different, very much more fun and very much darker.
A someone who read the rest of Wings of Fire because of the graphic novels, the seventh one annoyed me in the opposite way.
I sorta meant it in a way like- when people ONLY read the graphic novels and have some sort of grudge against the novels.
I also found wof from the graphic novels, but I quickly read the novels. I love the graphic novels! I just don’t like it when people just assume that the graphic novels are better without reading the novels.
@@CryosphereSubToMe Thanks for clearing that up.
I read the graphic novels first cause I couldn’t find the others and wanted to know what the people around me with similar interests meant when they started talking about wings of fire. I thought I’d like it: here I am.
the graphic novels are good if you want a quick rundown of what happens in each book. assuming you don't want a play by play.
I think things that should be added to "Wings of Fire" fans never say. "Darkstalker shall rise again!" Because you know making earrings that cancel Darkstalkers spells and giving them to literally every Dragon in Pyrrhia isn't a recipe for disaster or anything.
Im now realizing that if peacemaker just happens upon one of those then everyone is screwed
I love the wings of fire graphic novel series that’s the only way to read it because I would like to know what the dragons actually look like
1:15 I mean... if you're gonna call her a mary sue then you better call Clearsight and Darkstalker mary sues...
Also at least her book is good (in my opinion,) whereas another mary sue (arguably?) Harry potter (i despise him, I dont despise the movies (i havent read the books) but i despise the character harry potter) makes the movies almost unwatchable.
Oki but the dark secret wasn't too bad and I am speaking truthfully when I say this
1:32 moon x quibli is great
Things WOF fans never say *procedes to say things I've seen hundreds of times before*
I’d like to here some of YOUR hot takes
“I love Winterwatcher. I love Moonbli.”
Ok but consider Quinterwatcher.
I present to you: my sexuality headcannons for the jade winglet.
Winter: Bisexual
Qibli: pansexual
Moon: pansexual (only because I feel like I’ll be killed for calling her lesbian. She just gives off those vibes y’know?)
Turtle: straight
Kinkajou: lesbian
Umber: gay (I can not imagine him with any female dragon. At all)
Peril: straight (though I think she could pull off lesbian too, she just doesn’t give off bi or pan energy)
That skywing that I will forever forget the name of, carnelian or smth idk: hardcore lesbian
@@FatherOfCabin7_ItsApollon I think Peril would be Omni
@@Eclipse-x6z now that I think about it, probably
I mean some people like the novels and think the graphic novels are a little bit bad but in my opinion, I really just like seeing that art if it’s a novel I won’t get hooked because there’s no pictures or color
I have a friend. And my friend's favorite character is none other than Wh*rlp**l.
lmao you censored Wh*rlp**l
This friend of yours has bad taste.
@@ExploreTheWorld_9-c3u I mean he's a pretty good punching bag for the WoF fandom ngl.
@@Bry-Guy909 Yeah, such a good one. But it's a crime to like him.😂
The back of my hand is now covered in black marker, this stands for the agression this video brought to my soul
i dont really mind whirlpool. hes an awful person and is a total creep but thats the point. hes not my favorite, but hes a lil underrated imo
*_breathed heavily while lighting 7,40,134 houses on fire_*
I KNOW right?! MudWings are just so interesting and cool! Idk why people give them so much hate🥺. And Whirlpool? He's legit my fav character 🥰
I threw a old useless cup so hard it broke. I feel better
Arctic was such a good father
Whirlpool should never have died
I ship Anemone x whirlpool
Peril is a monster
Ex-Queen Scarlet never deserved to die
Orca should have beat Queen Coral
Queen Coral was such a great mother
Thorn should never have been queen of the Sandwings
If anyone says any of these their either not a true fan, want to trigger you, or have started a fan-group of all cursed Wings of Fire things and are planning to take Tui down with it
I mostly agree with you
By the way, this is why animus magic is not too overpowered. I mean, Orca definitely should have beaten Queen Coral. Literally, all it took was to say I enchant this dragon to die. Instead, the overpowered animus dragon just fell on a narwal horn?
Second point. Arctic was not a great father, but, oh god, I have seen worse IRL. Much worse.
Third point. I think what might really have worked as a great setup for a nice story would be Darkstalker sort of teaming up with Queen Scarlet, but in fact use it for his own benefit. So much potential for great storytelling there.
@ I feel like Animus magic is overpowering to redlect real world overpowered-ness
@@u.v.s.5583 she didn't want to reveale herself as an animus. Many forget this.
@@Arxtxc i really do like Whirpool and Arctic was really not an awful father. Not at all. He did CARED of Darkstalker.
I genuinely injoy the graphic novels- i have a hard time imagining thing is the same art style and i generally get sidetracked by everything possible, my mind is just like
"Oh shit i got homework- and it's Monday! I hate mondays. Im bored, am i hungry? When will i die? Where are the dogs?? Oh there they are, phew!" Etc etc.
0:58 Mudwings are my actual favorite tho ;-;
Same 😥
Noice
You didn’t have to do Mudwings dirty like that
Don’t worry I’m not mad at all 👌, (by the way I haven’t read all the books yet) I know it’s just an experiment video, I did read the video description, also your awesome Cryosphere 👏👍😎😊
BOOO I LOVED THE GRAPHIC NOVEL SERIES I LOVE THE ARTSTYLE SM
I hate the fact that I agree with like half of those
I actually like the graphic novels
Attack me if you want but my favorite book for the first arc is Starflight's book The Dark Secret. I think it expanded on Starflights character quite a bit and it let us know why the Nightwings were so desperate. I honestly feel bad for the Nightwings because almost immediately after they finally started getting their lives back on track in the rainforest Darkstalker comes in as the guy with "free candy" and baits them into dying for a war that is only for petty revenge. Also yes before you ask I am one of the people who thinks animus magic is not a born curse. You don't lose your soul by using your magic. Fathom was living proof of that since he lived a happy life in the end with Indigo. It's like what people say about video games. It's not the games causing you to do bad stuff it's your own life choices that make it that way for you. That is all I have to say.
Well written!!
FINNALY SOMEBODY WHO REALISES THAT HALF TEH FIRST ARC HAPPENSE IN THE RAINFOREST IT ANNOYES ME
i actually loved The Dark Secret. its not as good as Darkstalker but its definatley up there! Starflight is no doibt my favorite character!
I kind of like The Dark Secret. It isn't my favorite book, but it's pretty high up.
I will be honest i read all the books and i don't like sunny. and i meat someone who liked book four which was their fav.
I always want a sequel on the grown up Sunny. There are characters who develop certain traits much later in the life. Her mother is Queen now, her father is an animus. She may be timid but she is not dumb. She is descended from extremely cunning Sandwing and a Nightwing. Shame that she didn't hatch under the Moons, but what if they did shine through the skyhole under the mountain? People tend to overlook the potential, which is much higher than, say, even Glory or Tsunami.
@ I don’t like her because she is timid. If anything I don’t really like any of the characters in the five books, and the ones in 6-10 are okay and same with 11-15. I only read the books for the plot/story
@@MYSTERYFire Let me think... Typically the greatest characters are the villains - Morrowseer, Blister, Scarlet and such. I wish we knew more about Battlewinner. I also LOVE Peril and her mom.
@ got to agree with you. The villains were a lot better and I love Scarlet, she was a great first villain in the books. And the plot twist for the third arc was great I wasn’t expecting that at all. I have so much respect to the author
Ok but the child version of me used to have a crush on whirlpool 💀 WHY 😭😭
He is handsome and smart, and has a high position in the Seawing Ministry of Education, Culture and Enlightment, AND he is single.
I can definitely confirm that you stated the entire truth. No wings of fire fan would ever say these things…except for about Winterwatcher and Moonbli. Those 2 ships have the cannon stamp of approval.
No im literally so sad now cuz i tried to read one of the not graphic novels and i couldn't understand like half the words i feel hurt😭
*commits arson*
I like I do actually like the wings of fire graphic novels it's mainly because I can't really picture the descriptions that well and I can't really think it up that well so it kind of helps me out
If I made my own video like this, it would say something like 'saying that it's canon is a great reason/justification for why you ship something and should pester other people until they ship it too!'.
I like most of the canon ships, but like i dont _really_ try to force people into shipping them
@@randomgirlontheinternet1735 I'm not saying that most people do, it's just that there are a few people who do
@@DineroEater oh, okay
Okay, I have to break it..
I love the wings of fire graphic novel series.
They are really cool for some reason. yes I read all the books.
But seeing new dragons in Mike Holmes style is cool! I wonder how he draws arc 3 dragons.
Literally the ONLY reason I got into wings of fire is because I was at my school library and I saw the first graphic novel and I was like:
“Ooh cool dragon book” and I read it and here i am today.
Yea I don't like dragonsheep, kinda boring :|
The graphic novels are amazing, I love them, but not as much as the real books. Mike worked very hard on those drawing and it all paid off!
Whirlpool is actually my favorite wings of fire character. like I’m not even joking
The reason why is actually a bit more complicated but TLDR; morally complicated but still unredeemable slimy characters who you’d never want to meet in real life are my favorite. The treatment of characters like whirlpool are ten times more interesting than characters like darkstalker because trying to MARRY a child is slightly less redeemable in my heart than murder in a book series. Whirlpool and darkstalker have their morally GREY parts, if it weren’t for tiny snippets of redeemability they’d just be morally black. Whirlpool was only trying to marry anemone so that he could be king. Is that still ok? No! It doesn’t excuse his actions at all but it plays a very reasonable explanation for why he would do such a thing, he makes sense as a character. He’s fairly human, there are real life people that are like whirlpool and that’s why he’s so interesting to me. I wish we got more characters like him
I'm on the floor frothing up blood and screaming right now. Tossing in my grave and my eyes are red from excessive crying, how could wyou do this im so mad rn
I actually choked when they said "the graphic novel" and the audacity to say i hope u have a good day after all that
But, I love Whirlpool.
The graphic novel series is my favorite part about wings of fire
Um am I the only one who prefers graphic novels
*sigh* …Whirlpool is actually my favorite character, I am inspired by him.
They did starflight so dirty 😭
Oh please.. the graphics novel os really made for me who not good on english...
*ME BURNING MY PHONE AFTER THEY CRITICIZED SUNDEW X WILLOW*