Royal Air Force Application Process 2017 - Officer and Aircrew applicants
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- Опубликовано: 26 дек 2017
- P2 Pres - 2:13
CBAT - 4:21
Filter Interview - 10:29
Capita Medical - 21:16
OASC - 22:25
PRTC - 45:40
308 Interview - 46:51
I hope this video will give an insight of my experience going through the RAF application process in 2017. It covers the P2 Presentation, CBAT, Filter Interview, Medical, OASC, PRTC and 308 Interview.
I initially applied for the role of Pilot, due to a medical issue I was unable to continue pursuing this role so subsequently went for the role of Weapons System Operator (WSOp) and received my offer of service!
Please note by the time you are watching this video the application process may have changed. Make sure you contact your careers office for the most up to date information.
Feel free to ask a question - samfitzi98@gmail.com
Update: Halton was a great experience, made lots of friends and enjoyed my time there.. well.. most of it! Unfortunately WSOp didn’t work out in the end and I’m re-trading to GenTech M. Thank you for all the comments, I will continue to answer them as they come along :D
How soon after the CBAT did you have to have a fitness test? Also, after taking the CBAT are there any interviews on day 2 post results? Last but not least, must i be clean shaven when attending CBAT?
Thank you
Mark Felt Fitness test was at OASC which for me was around 7-8 months after CBAT I believe. But will differ depending on how quick they’re trying to get you through. After the CBAT, they will speak to you regarding the results. And no you don’t have to be clean shaven, but if you are going to have a beard.. make sure it’s at least very neat.
Fitzi have you any tips for CBAT in the context of mental maths? Preparation to aid you with preparation.
Thanks for info Fitzi.
Loved this video and had been a big help through my application process. I have just returned after completing OASC, I now have the anxious wait to hear back! I am hoping to join as WSOP myself and just interested as to why you have now re-traded to Gen Tech. Many Thanks
Your lack of grievance regarding your height disadvantage is commendable
Great video, I can see me watching this again and again over the next few months.
What an excellent video. You are clearly a very intelligent and motivated young man.
Hey man, this is great. You have really set me up for the RAF.
This is video is very informative and gives a good insight into the process. it’s also admirable how you took the news about your height and just got on with things.
I am very glad I found this video, it is excellent. Got my P2 Presentation tomorrow. Best of luck in your training!
hows it going now, 3 years later ?
Really helpful video. All that seems to be on RUclips at the moment are Royal Navy recruitment videos so this is so helpful
hope your service is going well your calmness and mental strength about not making pilot is incredible, deserve a fantastic career
probably one the best detailed videos about the RAF i am currently transferring from the army to the raf and only have to do 10 days at Halton its taken a while but worth it.
Brilliant video, very informative! Wish I had seen this before I did OASC!
I’m about to do my medical for the raf, this video has helped a lot thanks man
Great video i havw my P2 presentation in next 2 weeks and this has been really usefull for the commission element.
I’ve still got few years before I sign up for the RAF but this is going to help me out big time so a big thanks for this. :)
ProGaming _DJ Try to get a Flying Scholarship through the ATC beforehand,it will drastically help.
Hi (sorry, unaware of your name), very informative video- good job and thanks. Hoping to join myself in the near future. I hope your basic training is going well and you are enjoying yourself (no doubt). Start of a very fulfilling journey! Myfanwy
Off to my P2 presentation tomorrow. Thanks for making this video! Really helped put my mind at rest about what to expect. Hope your new trade training works out.
Alexander Keen applied on Wednesday to join the RAF, roughly how long does it take to get a reply back?
DeepF1ASH how did it go
Just passed my AST's. This vid has been a big help in revision and prep, thank you.
Hi guys, I'm an applicant in the process of joining the Royal Air Force.
I'll be covering the entire application process on my channel. I just posted a video about the Selection Interview on my channel which I think may interest some of you!
I'd appreciate it if you had any feedback too.
Thank you.
This video was incredibly useful, thank you!
Great video. My son is considering the RAF. I will send it to him. Thanks for making it and answering all of the questions.
Very helpful! I’m hoping to apply for WSOP, looks great fun as a career! Keep us posted about everything. Very interested to know!
Thanks
Great video very helpfull, good luck for your future RAF career you will have loads of fun.:D
Just had my formal interview, this helped massively!
hows your career going ?
Any advice? I might apply to be a pilot next year, hopefully to become a multi engine of something like an A400M
This is the motivation I needed
Can you make more videos on the raf because theres barely any people doing raf videos
jessbrooks000 I will try and make another video in the future yes!
Thanks, it will help a lot of people wanting to join the raf out. You're doing good work!
I’d really appreciate some more videos as a new recruit
Very useful, much appreciated for uploading this
Thanks for this video as someone who is just about to apply this is very informative. Would be great if you made some more of these as RAF vids are quite hard to come by.
Ive gone through the application process recently so if you have any questions feel free to ask me
SJC2000 I applied on Wednesday ,roughly how long does it take to get a reply back?
Good job on getting the raf 100 hero saw your vid then saw you on insta so well done mate
Arthur Hayhoe Thank you :D
Thank you for this video buddy its helped me out a fair bit. I've got my CBAT in the next few days. Just seen your comment below that you're a GTM (TG5?). I hope it's going well for you 👍
Fair play buddy awesome video with some great insights as to what to expect. Currently waiting for my CBAT, hoping to get in as a WSOp 🤞
do u already have ur CBAT booked? mines booked for june 10th so if urs is anytime before that some insight on anything i should know would be very helpful.
@@nathanlloyd5502 Sat mine last week. There's a very useful app that has scaled-down versions of the tests. You can't really revise that much, as it is a test of natural ability after all. Just prepare as much as you can and don't stress about it.
@@nathanlloyd5502 sorry mate didn't see your comment originally. Mines booked in for the 13th of July funnily enough. As Jadduck and a few others have said there's not much you can do to prepare, although I'm sure practicing your mental arithmetic can only help. Good luck 🙂
@@technowelliebobs4779 iv got mine booked for September. If you don’t mind would you be able to give me an insight into the distance speed and time questions? Are the numbers easily divisible or will there be decimal answers? Thank you.
Hope holton went well for you mate, thanks for the guide!
This video was very interesting and informative. I'm thinking of maybe joining the RAF when I'm a little older but I'm indecisive and don't have a clue as to what to do in my future after GCSEs.
Great video!!
Wow Sir! Cracking video, thanks for the detailed info! You've helped my prep a lot!
I’ve applied for the pilot role and it’s been about 2 weeks, at the moment I’m just preparing so thanks for some insight on what I need to work on 👌🏾
I did my aptitude test at the beginning of December. I applied in may. Be patient and phone them once every two weeks for updates they’re going through applicants as quick as possible however ‘COVID’ as they say
how'd It go
withdrew my application got cold feet; am currently waiting on results on my police interview now@@strikeeaglee15
Super presentation. All the very best. Alan ex RAF
Congratulations on your selection. I have applied to the RCAF for a pilot position. I passed my aptitude test, was one of only 2 or 3 people out of 20 from our aircrew selection test that qualified for pilot and have my first interview tomorrow morning. This video was a great help on getting prepared for that and working on answers to odd or difficult questions.
Devin Wells what type of pilot as I want to be a pilot? Don’t quite understand what to do
Tracey out his dish Dylan not sure what type of pilot yet. You won’t know until the end of phase 1 training to know what you’ll fly in the future. Visit your local recruiting office and apply online
Devin Wells I want to be a fighter pilot, what will need to happen for that?
Tracey out his dish Dylan you have to pass everything I mentioned before. Aircrew selection is insanely difficult. My CFASC was 20 people and the only people that passed were me and a woman who was already in the Australian Air Force. In your phase 1 training, you will be selected for your aircraft and only 22% get fast jet aka fighter pilot
Devin Wells what could I do to prepare for this?
Im just about to do my a-levels and am an aspiring Pilot, ive kept coming back to this video for the past two years and i dont doubt this will be the last time. How is your career in the RAF going
howd the a levels go
I remember my time in the RAF well. Air Traffic Control officer. Best days of my life. Word of warning........
Take this seriously, dont arse around trying to look cool, they spot idiots a mile off. After that best of luck in your career. It will serve you well if you serve them.
Christine Lamin I'm applying for this role too! My CBAT is on the 12h of September
Christine Lamin should I have to know how to fly a plane If I want to become a fighter pilot? Or does the RAF give You training for flying fighter jets?
Ashton Abranches it's great to have a heads up. It'll make it easier for when you enter EFT, but they give you full training. Thats my 2p worth. I have friends in the military who are pilots.
DGAFTV Thank You very Much for the Information.
DGAFTV is it free? Or do I have to pay?
Love the video! Could you make some more informational videos if you get the time please?
Adam Charles If I can then I will Adam :)
Hey, just wanted to say, great video. A real insight into the application process. I, myself will be applying for Pilot (with RAF Police Officer as 2nd choice if things don't go well) in a few years as I have just started university. Sounds like I'll have to do the initial application process just after i start my final year of university. Anyways, hope things go well for you.
Kevin Smith Thanks Kevin, hope all goes well for you also!
how'd it go?
Hey, currently waiting to “come of age” to join up as a pilot. Thanks for this vid was very helpful and a good and well needed insight!
Maison I doubt you will make it
how'd it go?
Great video of the application process, just arrived at st athan 2 weeks ago. Gen tech e training for next 16 months 😅
Joe Giles Cheers! I’m on the senior Mech course so will see you about
Great video 👍
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Fitzi - sorry to hear WSOp didn't work out, what was the reason, if you don't mind me asking? Great video btw. S
Thanks for this video, I'm doing my filter interview next week at some point which is all recorded answers rather than in person now but I assume the questions are the same. Gonna need to reach hard to find examples of leadership as I haven't had much experience in all honesty. I was self employed previously so haven't had a "real" job, I wonder what kind of impact that'll have on my application
Just did my CBAT a couple days ago, if anyone was wondering the test is still basically the same as described in the video, my test lasted from 7am to 3:20pm however will change depending on how fast you answer questions. Remember that there are going to be others in the accom block with you who will have already done CBAT for various reasons, they will help you with any questions and will probably give you some hints and tips. 👍
Hiya, I was wondering what type of questions came up in the test and what are the main areas you need to focus on for revision? Thank you :)
@@Maryam-jj7rr Get the CBAT app from the AppStore it was very helpful, documentation outlining every test will be supplied to you when you apply and are given a CBAT date. There were over 20 tests.
Hi there Nick ,
Thanks for your comment, I have mine in a few weeks. Please could I ask how many people passed on your intake? I am also using the app but wondering how much It is really going to help. How much preparation did you do if you don’t mind me asking? Thank you!
harry kirby yeah I did a fair bit on the app personally I think it was an excellent help we’ll worth the few pounds it was. To be honest I don’t remember how many passed because I was was one of the first 4 or 5 to finish but I saw two others fail, but qualify for other roles so it wasn’t complete failiure.
Hi, just wondering. What did you wear to the CBAT. I know it says smart but did you wear a full suit or just chinos with a shirt
Superb video. Well done. I hope you are enjoying your time in the RAF.
Quick query, did you come across any older guys going through the recruitment process.
I'm thinking about joining, but at my age I'm at the upper end of the age limit.
Again, thanks and well done.
Sturrock Family There were a few people on my course at Halton who were around 30 years old.
At Cranwell there were lots of older individuals going through officer training, some between 40 and 50.
If you want to join, do it!
Thanks for the info
I know I'm a bit late but can you do a video running down what goes on at the basic training
This a very informative video and I appreciate it greatly. Just accepted my CBAT to go to Cranwell on the 12th of October. Do you have any advice on what to revise and how to do it? Like what sites did you use to get experience on the questions that could come up, it would be greatly appreciated. Hope your career is going well in the services
How was it?
This video is great, I’ve been using it a lot for my prep. Can I ask, where did you find most of your research for your filter interview? Any particular websites you used?
ThisisDan Thanks Dan! No websites in particular, just general searches online and the information provided at the careers office
This is great. I'm putting my application in once I am certain I can smash my press ups. Currently training 4 times a week, I think I will have my app in by the end of the month.
Tara Chesworth Keep it up!
I think a guy I know is at Halton same time as you he’s doing WSOp too... Good luck! Keep us updated how it’s going
Hiya mate, this is a great video. Really helpful. Applying for pilot myself; sorry to hear about your medical issue. Wish you all the best in your future career!
Lee Gallagher Thanks Lee! I hope your application goes well!
Just curious as to what you know yourself (etc whether you know every part of an aircraft , a levels , history of the RAF and more)
Great video man, I’ve got my filter interview in 5 days time so doing a lot of prep now and this video was great, I’m struggling to find a clear definition of commissioned vs non-commissioned officer so any help on an answer for that would be much appreciated!
Search ‘Raf - nco vs officer - The Student Room’ on Google, look at that post on the Student Room as it gives a good explanation 👍
Thank you for this great video not many like this please make more as I am wanting to join the raf even tho I’m only going into year nine soon any advice how to get the best involved and into it 🙂🙂
Love the video man, shall be in touch soon if that’s ok!
L_Tillett No problem! Don’t expect a reply straight away because training is busy! But I’ll try my best :)
I'm applying for the Intelligence Analyst (Linguist), I so hope to god it works out, seen so many people get messed around by Capita !
ALAW how did it go?. I applied on Wednesday ,roughly how long does it take to get a reply back?
@@DeepF1ASH How long did it take lol?
@@ciarenbunt306 bloody ages mate, about 6 months
Do they choose if you go through based on A-levels and GSCEs? Like as in if you’ve got mostly 6s in your GCSEs you have a lower chance? Whereas if you have 8s its better. Also what is included in the aptitude tests?
Just done my prtc, and got my offer of service interview, any tips for that? Or is it literally about the knowledge of the trade your applying for?
Best of luck pal, you seem like a great candidate. I am having a look myself at what kind of preparation I'll need to undertake to deal with each stage of the application, and I have gotten myself worried about showing examples of leadership in my life. How crucial did you find this point and any advice on what might qualify as leadership examples?
I am also interested what your previous experience was prior to applying.
Thanks in advance.
Any thing where you have led something really, I don’t know your life story so you’ll have to remember what you’ve done! Before I joined I worked in a pet shop haha
Thanks for the rapid response Fitzi!
Just watched your video, (it was great by the way) but I'm going for my CBAT in a month, so what is the best advice you could give me. Thanks.
m.j bain how did your CBAT go mate?
Im still waiting on capitas medical review results, thats been almost 8 months, and the recruiting seargent says that CAPITA hasn't recieved anything from my GP, this is ridiculus waiting!
I found this helpful as I want to go in to the RAF as an officer.
Are you allowed to bring in notes for the interview and can you bring a paper and pen into CBAT Test. Also what tips do you recommend a young person wanting to join the RAF as a pilot and what they should be doing now to maximise their success. Thanks for this great vid, hope your doing well.
No notes in the interview, you won’t need a pen and paper for the CBAT as everything will be provided for you. I would speak to the careers office and they can put you in contact with people who would be useful in your preparation. Get in the habit of exercising regularly as it’ll be easier for you when you do the fitness tests. Practise lots of speed distance time calculations and look online for the CBAT tests, there are apps that will help with CBAT preparation aswell. Hope this helps!!
You can always get your commercial license in the civvy world ……if you really want to do that later !
Good video. Do u know about medical waivers for some cases? Is it possible? For professional qualified people .
Thanks for the breakdown, for the 5 UK and Global topics in the filter interview, did you choose which topics were discussed or did you just learn 5 and then they chose which to talk about?
Simon Thompson I learnt 5 global topics and 5 uk topics as best as I could in as much detail as possible, the Officer interviewing me said ‘list your topics’ so I did and then he chose one out of each :)
How hard is OASC? I’m not great speaking Infront of people and I was just wondering if anyone else has this problem and still found it doable
Can I also ask what happened with WsOP as that’s the position I’m transferring too (currently in service)
You want to be a pilot? By pass the RAF, go to the airlines and earn some serious dosh while flying heavy metal. There is a global shortage of commercial pilots. CTC at Bournemouth are a superb organisation that will help with the finance and also job placement when you have a frozen ATPL. Option is, 800 hours a year flying a large aircraft or 250 sitting in the back while someone else flies.
How long did you have to wait to hear about the PRTC after the PJFT, it's the last step to BRTC, btw im joining up as an ASOp
I literally came back from CBAT today and god was it the hardest thing I have ever done and im 29 haha. But luckily I passed :)
Is the RAF the same as the AAC if not what are the differences?
I would appreciate a reply.
Hey, not sure if you would see this but I hope you do. First of all, thank you for this detailed video on how the entire recruitment process works. Just out of curiosity, what do you do now? I saw your pinned comment on how WSOP didn’t work out for you, did you switch your trade after that? Or did you decide to leave the RAF completely? I am actually planning on joining the RAF after university as I believe I need more life experience before I join the RAF, alongside university I am also planning on joining the University Air Squadron next year (doing a foundation year for the first year and they don’t allow that). The main role I was really considering was the role of being a pilot and my backups being either a Weapons Systems Operator or a Air Operations (Systems) Officer. Now I know how demanding the pilot role is and how competitive it is, it is probably likely that I won’t get it so I am really preparing to look at all my options. Anyways, I was just wondering, what was the case with wsop that it didn’t end up working out for you? Also, would you know how much officer training differs from NCO training?
A response would be greatly appreciated. Once again thanks for making this video.
Hey can I get your Instagram account handle?
In my opinion, I think passing the aptitude test can be a bit challenging, hopefully when I apply for being a pilot I will pass it
how'd it go?
Hi what is the maximum age for being a pilot in Royal Air Force? What features should we have?
The RAF do like you to wear a matching waistcoat in addition to your suit I don't know why. I was accepted for Navigator not Pilot 1979 during "A" Levels at Boarding School so I walked away. I passed all Pilot Exams at the first attempt commercially(including Instrument Rating) but the money was better working in an Oil Refinery as an Oik.
Brilliant video - Do you know where you got all the information about the RAF for your interview? Did you use online resources? I'm not sure whether to look online because obviously the credibility of some websites is always a bit dodgy!
marveldinosaur Yes it was all online resources, depending on what you’re looking for you can tell if the website is credible or not. Plus if a forum post is from 2003 then you might want to do a bit more digging to find info on that subject a bit more up to date haha!
Hi Sam, thanks for making this video it is really helpful. I'm applying as a pilot but I haven't finished my A-Levels yet. I was wondering what results you got and how important they were for you in the application process?. Obviously the RAF website states the educational requirements but I heard stories of people who got high As or A*s and were quickly accepted for officer roles.
ParallelWorld I would try to get the best grades you can of course, as long as you hit the required standard then that’s all that matters. It’s more your performance in the interviews, CBAT and OASC that’ll really count. For myself I got 10 GCSEs (8B’s and 2C’s) and achieved distinction triple star for my college BTEC. Hope this helps :)
Hi Fitzi! I've got my final interview coming up shortly and I was wondering what questions do you get asked? I just want to ensure that I have the correct information!
How did to go mate
Do you have any tips to prepare for both the physical fitness and other tests?
Im thinking about applying . Can you do a video on the 10 week basic training
kjbm kjbm : Concentrate on getting a good Honours Degree first otherwise they won't even look at your application Old Boy !
what wouldve you done before to prepare before you entered your interest and went into the training
Hi mate, I've done loads of arithmetic, speed distance time, and others, but how to practice angles and bearings?
thanks
JBMP get a GCSE revision book
Great video, really informative! :) I am applying for the role of Intelligence Officer in the RAF and I have my p2 presentation soon but am slightly concerned about the aptitude tests and preparing for them? Are there any books/resources you would recommend at all?
Charlotte Morse you’ll get an email regarding the aptitude tests that’ll tell you what to revise for. Go online and look for mental maths, speed distance time, bearings and angles questions and that’ll cover the majority. A lot of the CBAT is natural ability so just do the best you can!
Fitzi Brilliant thank you! Good luck with your career in the RAF :)
Hi! What are the swimming tests like? Not the best swimmer but having 1-1 lessons. Thankyou! X
I heard from an officer at my ATC squadron that you have to be able to swim 100m with no rest. I'm not sure about the other swimming tests
do you have some links to maths revision and or nearings/ angle? please kindest regards mickT
With the medical, was it any different to the Capita medical? i.e. read the bottom lines for eyes. Sit in a booth and do the hearing test, or was there more thorough tests?
Thanks
ryan westerman The capita medical was a general medical whereas the medical at OASC is the more in depth aircrew specific one.
Are the tests all about maths and science or are there more?
how tall are you?
Is it possible to put your filter interview notes online it would be a great help
Can u pls make more raf videos and also nice video mate
matthew mcdonagh I’ll try my best to in the future yes
If you don’t mind me asking, how come WSOp didn’t work out? It looks very difficult to get into which is worrying me slightly
lewmar321 I’ll be honest, I wasn’t mentally strong enough while going through the training. My advice to you is to just go for it, give it ya best and you won’t regret it
very helpful video thanks so much, just a question, how tall are you/what is the upper limit?
Chris Christensen I am 6ft6, it goes off specific measurements of the body rather than purely height. I can’t remember the limits now, I’m sure you could find them online.
if you can remember what were the height requirements
What type of questions where on the CBAT, Im applying for ATC and don't really have and idea of what the aptitude test will be about
If you look up RAF aptitude tests on google there is plenty of resources that take you through what sort of tests will be included :)
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