Best advice is to try it and if you fail, learn and try again. Very few succeed first time regardless of the amount of prep and generally you learn a lot more from failure - applies to anything worth getting in life.
I work for a job recruiter in a completely different industry, and your advice is good for other professions as well. Consciously working toward making yourself a well-rounded person can be helpful on your CV, but it's also helpful for your life in general. 🙂
Thank you so much for this. It’s what I needed to hear. I’m midway through the application now, got my RITS interview (online, not even with a recruiter nowadays) in about 2 weeks. I’m Worried I don’t have enough proof of volunteering/leadership experience, but I’m hoping that everything else I have going for me will be enough to pull me through to OASC. I Can prove myself there. I have been doing what you described and building it up too much in my head. Hearing that the worst thing I can hear is just “no” is exactly what I needed to hear. Thank you again. Hope to see you around ;)
@@jameshanley9418 That's fantastic! It might have changed since I went through, but I did speak to a friend of mine the other day that went through it recently. Just remember that they are looking for leadership qualities, look to add positive input even when you are not in the leader role. Best of luck!
A quick update to the aircrew selection process. After CBAT testing at Cranwell, the filter interview has now become SHINE pre recorded interview. If your CBAT scores are good enough you will be sent a link which opens a set of pre determined questions which you then record your answers. You get between 90secs and 2 minutes to answer, you can re record an answer if you stumble. The time scale is a week from your link going active. The questions are as mentioned, current events, NATO,AirPower- what is it? General things like why do you want to join the RAF. Lots of info about SHINE on Reddit links. This has now replaced the face to face interview before OASC. Fail this interview and its goodbye and thanks for trying. Pass and its on to OASC.
Not to shit on your dream young man but the waiting time for becoming a Pilot may never come so you may become a desk jockey. If this is your dream fight for it! I'm 24 and thinking of enlisting my big age . never let anybody tell you no
In 1971, I spent a pleasant afternoon in a bar (Eddies in Wickrath) not too far from Larrbruch drinking beer with a Lightning pilot. His major observation was… “the number of landings recorded in your log should equal the number of take offs!”… he then fell off the bar stool.
Currently in uni about to start my second year but always had a dream and passion of becoming a RAF fighter pilot ,most likely will join after I finish hopefully there will be enough spaces available and genuinely hope our government invests more money into our military so more people have the opportunity
This video was quite interesting. I am 19 and just did my CBAT at RAF Cramwell I couple days ago. I am aspiring to be a pilot, however sadly I was a single stanine point off qualifying. I know I can retake the test, however you can only do so every 12 months and do not wish to delay myself joining the RAF. I am now looking at other roles as I qualify for everything besides Pilot and Pilot ISR (RPAS). I still haven't given up on my dream of being a pilot however.
Amazing. thanks, gave me more motivation. I've done aero space engineering incollege and currently doing a level physics to help me become a navy pilot. Also went air cadets so hoping they will consider me. Only have a year left until I'm too old to join :/
Amazing video! Gave me a great insight into what kind of thing I will potentially experience in years to come. I just wanted to ask whether saying you are an air cadet is credited or accounted for during the selection process as I am currently an air cadet myself and I feel like the qualities I am gaining and will continue to gain will be incredibly advantageous for when joining the RAF - please share your views if you disagree with this. Finally, may I ask why you chose the multi-engine aircraft route? I am hoping to specialize in rotary aircraft - a chinook if possible.
Hi Joseph, I was in the Air Cadets for a little while when I was younger. I am not part of the recruitment process so these are only really my thoughts, but as long as you take advantage of what the Air Cadets can offer you I think it will help. When it comes to the selection process, leadership experience or times you have worked within a team will help, and the air cadets can offer you that opportunity. You can, of course, get those experiences elsewhere, but it should help that they were within a known organisation and in a military style environment. I chose multi-engine as my first choice as it provided the best work/life balance and locations for me and my family. Rotary was my original dream but I had to put it second for those previous reasons. Best of luck on your journey!
Very helpful video! Just wondering about the part where you’re put into one of the three types (the rotary fast jet and multi engine) and how that works? Do you yourself say what you prefer or do they choose for you?
It has been my dream since I was 6 to be a fighter pilot. It all started when I saw the red arrows when I was young and seeing f-15s fly over me at the Lake District and from then on, I’ve become obsessed with aircraft. I really want this job and any more tips would be appreciated to boost my chances of being a fast jet pilot. (I am 14 now and coming up on year 10 so any school tips would be appreciated nice too!)
I’m 13 years old and I’m really interested in the airforce I hope to become a pilot I don’t think it will work out but if I don’t try then it definitely won’t this video helped me understand a lot thank you
Best advice find Doctor Who go back to 1966 join as a GD/P and be combat ready on a front line fast jet Squadron in Germany or Cyprus or Singapore within 3 years...today forget it .
Hi I’m currently at college doing a Uniformed public service course in my first year not the smartest of guys out there. Found this video very helpful and made me realise I may have a chance as I’m looking at going for pilot. Thank you best of luck with your training and which stream are you going through?
Rather than say “I’m not the smartest of guys” recognise that you are prepared to develop yourself further. You have areas of weakness which you have recognised and have a plan to improve. You clearly have strengths which you are developing further too! Don’t undersell yourself, be positive, your glass is half full not empty - best of luck 👍
I wanted to join the uniformed services since i was 14. I went and did a uniformed services college course (which was amazing btw i got to meet amazing people) i then went on and got a Level 3 personal training certificate because I've always loved training and routine and i have the most amount of grits and sheer will to win and become better. Which my supervisors loved about me, and that motivated me to give my absolute best no matter what. Now I am 18 i wanted to to apply for university in sport and exercise science but student finance does not want to fund me, i was sure that i am going to enroll eventually i just did not know when. But hey. Now i will apply as a pilot in RAF because i have always loved planes, ( and was mesmerised by Top Gun hahaha) so yeah. Thanks for the read. T minus 8 months to get in the best physical shape i can be❤.
Thank you so much for this video, genuinely helped me. I’ve wanted to be a pilot for a decade now, I’m 18 and I wanna be a pilot so bad but everyone makes it sound like it’s impossible, but I believe I can do it. But I have 2 questions, 1: if I don’t really have much extracurricular activities can I still get in or don’t I stand a chance? And 2: how hard are the aptitude tests?
Hello mate, great video. I am an inspiring pilot, hopefully to fly the P8-Poseidon or the voyager,but the problem I have is that I wear glasses. I spoke to the RAF call centre which they gave me great advise, but have you got any thoughts on this and how it may effect me when I do the interview or fitness/ medical checks.
Hi, I’m not sure on the entry requirements for eye sight but it’s perfectly normal for aircrew to wear glasses with aircrew glasses being issued. Like you have done, take advice from the most up to date source for recruitment. If you are still eligible with your current eyesight then it shouldn’t have any effect on your interview/medical checks. Just approach them as you normally would! Take advice where ever you can get it and good luck! Both P8 and Voyager are in lovely parts of the UK, one much more north than the other!
Great video and lot's of help thanks. I hope to become a Royal Air Force fast jet pilot soon and have just started my application process (P2 presentation in a few weeks). Although for the future stages of the application, I'm struggling on current affairs I'm struggling to find some relevant / good topics and wondered if you could give me any ideas and examples if that's alright. Thanks
Hi! Good luck with your application, there are many current affairs topics out there big and small. A few that come to mind would be the ongoing conflict in Ukraine, Sweden joining NATO and Turkey's involvement in the process. There are many political events in the UK at the moment, have a quick scan around there will be tons of interesting topics.
thank you very much, it has been my dream to join the RAF and i will take all these things into account throught the rest of my education. Do you need a university degree to be an officer?
Are you a master at waiting to be trained after passing entrance? if your answer is yes then you too could become an RAF pilot someday....eventually.....20 years wait tops. Good advice though!
You probably aren’t going to read this but I’m looking to join the fleet air arm as a Merlin pilot in a few years but the main issue is I don’t have perfect vision I have to wear glasses to see . I currently am not sure if pilots can have laser eye surgery to correct this but whilst you were in training did you know any rotary wing pilots who wore glasses ?
Hello mate again, how’s your career going now. Did you use a CBAT app when learning? Because I think this will be useful for me?could you recommend any for me or anyone else watching. (If you do mention it in the vid I do apologise it been like 6 months since I watched it fully😂😂
Thank you very much. I was wondering what the selection or streaming process was after you finish the basic flight training before you are dedicated a specialised aircraft type like fast jet and multi rotor. I have searched on the internet for answers but I haven’t been able to find any. I would love to fly in a Typhoon or F35B but I have come to realise that it is not your decision in what aircraft type you go into.
Hi! You are streamed into the main roles (multi engine, fast jet and rotary) after elementary flying training (EFT). This is done based on your performance during EFT, service need and your preference. Every effort will be made to fulfil your preference but if there are those more suitable for the roles they will be given that opportunity. But ultimately, the number of spaces available will be down to the service need. So to sum up, if you perform highly and there are fast jet slots available you should be able to get it but it cannot be guaranteed. Hopefully that helps. 😬
hey, i’m currently 15 and want to become a fighter pilot. i’m currently looking to do a levels and which would u most recommend, would engineering help massively or does it not matter too much? Also do u need a degree to apply or not?
Hello, I hope you are having a good day. I am from Nepal, and i want to be an airline pilot. What can i do? I know there are gurkhas in the UK. What can I do to be an airline pilot ? Thankyou.
This has been great to watch, and I kind of want to know your thoughts and opinions on this... I am currently 15, nearly 16. And I go to RAF Cadets. I have Cs in English, Science, WBQ, Religious studies etc, a D in maths, though I am expected a C and above in Maths for my last exam this year. I am currently REALLY interested in the RAF, and being a pilot is one of my dreams. I kind of do feel the way you described, that I feel it's unattainable, and i've tried to do my best research. I understand I need A levels, but I don't think i'm gonna be able to get those... so after doing my research, I realised a few things, I could go as an aircraft technician, do my level 3 NVQ qualification, (doing level 2 in school, got a B) then do an apprenticeship, then apply for officer role, since everything else, including my length of service by then will cross out the need for A levels. I was wondering your thoughts on this, and if you could sort of point me in the right direction anymore that I can. Thanks in advance!
It sounds like you have done research into the different avenues to take. The difference between when I went through and your journey is that the age restriction was higher for me so I'm not sure how that will affect you if this path takes you beyond 23 years old. ( Something you may have already researched or it would be good to put it past one of the recruiters in the recruitment office) If you can try to bump up those maths and english results to B's, that will only help no matter what avenue you decide to take. One of the benefits of this plan would be that even at the very least you will be qualified as an aircraft technician through the apprenticeship, that is still a positive outcome. Good luck!
@@CuriousPilot90 Cheers, I spoke to one of the old Cadets in my Squadron who left in 2022 but came back to visit today, who is now an Officer in the RAF as a Weapons Systems Officer, and he also spoke about the age restrictions. He kind of told me that even if I do exceed the age limit, being an aircraft technician/engineer would be great, and told me that if I was below the age limit by then, and I really wanted it, then do it. Or in summary, he kind of said the same things you said. So uh yeah, thanks again!
How did you get a Masters without completing A-levels? I feel like i can't afford going through with a masters after undegrad - that 24 year old cut-off is looming 😂 (Currently in Year 12, maybe thinking a bit far ahead)
how do i prepare to be an officer? what kind of stuff do i need to know? attitude etc? im worried my c in maths will prevent me being able to be an officer, i have 3 A levels and will have a degree before i join
Im currently hating sixth form, Im year 12 (Just turned 17) and about to apply for an RAF apprenticeship with 2 years training and 3 years stay post training. Thats 5 years. By the time thats done I should be around 23 which is the final age to start pilot training. I would do pilot training after a levels but i am hating them a lot, and RAF apprenticeship seems like the only other options i can find. So, if i did an RAF apprenticeship and switched if i still wanted to be a pilot - after 5 years - will i be able to start that at age 23 even though that is the maximum age? I hope you reply soon as my applications are just starting :D
Hi Samantha, great question, as you know from the video I wasn't enjoying my A levels too much either, I did go a different way but if I had stayed I would have maybe got there sooner. With regards to the recruitment age, it currently stands that the age cut off is 23 (Must have entered Initial Officer Training by your 24th birthday). So as long as you are below that age, applying should be accepted (As long as recruitment is open at that time). There is sometimes a bit of time between selection and starting so it might be an option that you actually apply for the role a little earlier just as you are finishing your apprenticship/degree whichever direction you choose to go. I would keep an eye on the recuitment website, just to keep up to date of the entry requirments. It was 25 years old when I applied and now 23, it's just an example of how things can change. I hope that helps.
Hello, all I’ve ever wanted to do is fly fast jets, and I can’t get behind flying multi engines or rotors. Any advice on getting picked for a fast jet?
The only advice I can really give is to try your best. It would help to have some aviation experience before arriving as every flight is graded and these add up to your overall performance report at the end which is used to assist with streaming. But ultimately, availability of spaces when you go through will play a part. All three of the types are brilliant offering different experiences. So come into it, driving for fast jets but accepting that the other types will still be a great career.
Were you in the air cadets? What Role were you in prior to pilot and what age did you start and finish that? Should you apply as soon as you are old enough or try to build yourself first?
I'm doing sixth form and planning to try and join the raf as a pilot when i finish, with activities outside of education im not sure what to do, i go to the gym but thats about it
How much do grades matter? And does it matter if you don’t to cadets and still apply for the RAF because I want to see what like in the SAS or as an astronaut is like.
Is it better to go through uni then join or just college? Im studying Physics, Maths, Economics at college right now and am very interested in becoming a military pilot, got any tips?
Hi sir, just a couple of questions, what pilot are you training to be? Fast jet? Fixed wing? And what was your previous role? Sincerely, A fellow serviceman😎
@@CuriousPilot90how did you go for pilot while already in the RAF? I was told by my recruiter that lateral movement is highly unlikely, you can only progress upwards not sidestep into another role? I didn't meet the cbat score by one point and would like to go for it again but while I'm in the RAF is this possible?
@@jackcooper624 The recruiter will be your best source of current information. What they have said would make sense, I haven't seen many people 'sidestep', the only examples I can think of are from RPAS to Pilot but that was a specific scheme and still fairly rare. The way it worked for me was 'progress upwards' as I was a non-commissioned rank and then applied for commision under a different trade/branch.
@@CuriousPilot90 ah thankyou for that info. I'm currently entering as a commissioned role (air ops systems) now as I was unsuccessful for pilot and couldn't do rpas due to duel nationality. Just curious with you commissioning into the role, did you still have to be under the 24 threshold?
I'm planning to enlist in the R.A.F as a Eurofighter pilot, but I'm worried that on that 2 day test I'm not going to get to be able to select to be a pilot
Can people without perfect vision fly with the RAF or AAC? I fly already, not in a professional capacity however I do have a class 2 medical and (eligable for class 1). I wear glases when I fly about -2.
Do you get to choose whether you fly fast jet or is it assigned to you? Also after you’ve committed to 12 years of service can you swap roles? (eg pilot to mechanic, or mechanic to pilot)
Hi, everyone starts flying training at ‘Elementary Flying Training’ during this course you are taught the ‘Elementary’ parts of flying but are also graded for every trip. At the end of the course there are three streams, Fast jet/Multi Engine/Rotary and you can put a preference down on which ones you would prefer. Based on your performance, preference and what is available, you will be selected for one of the roles. With regard to moving roles/trades, it is possible but some of the entry requirements will still remain,for example age. Once you have finished training you commit to a return of service, the length of which differs depending on which role you are.
Hi I was just wondering I want to fly fast jet that it was I've alwayse wanted to do and still want to do. What happens if I don't get selected for that and instead go onto another type of aircraft? Am I just stuck doing that?
Insightful and interesting video, thank you. Probably all you get asked about, but with regards to the Pilot role, are there any other indirect routes into joining or flying training you know of please? I am now 23 and have enquired about applying for an age waiver but been told they are not available for RAF- Pilot. I am sitting in the RN waiting list but have been told 2025/26 is the next viable and potential intake. With this in mind, I have come through uni and UAS and would like to know if there is a sponsorship or cadetship, recognised by the military, in order to lend myself to joining, (e.g the Euro- NATO or RAF reserves routes?). I understand this is a novel request and mechanism to enquire, however the AFCOs are short on internal info. Any advice or info would be great, thanks.
Hmmm, this is the difficulty of the age restriction being much lower now. I'm not sure of any sponsorships that provide a route. I have heard and seen in the past of a limited number of RPAS pilot's who have managed to jump across. It may be that you could enquire about the possibility of joining as RPAS (Which is still a fulfilling role) and if there is still an opportunity to transfer across later on in your career. Good luck.
RPAS does interest me, I have heard of SR’s for Airtanker, but I believe it is accessible to CPL Pilots, I will look into any other routes. Thank you for your help.
Hi mate, currently interested in a career as a pilot in the RAF. This video really helped me decide that that is what i wanted to do. Currently in a local gliding club and army cadets. What degrees do you think would help me most when becoming a pilot? I think im going to try get a degree in physics or something of that nature. Thanks
Also do you think i should go to college before joining the RAF and trying to become a pilot ‘upfront’ or should i join the RAF in a different role at first as you did? I am similar to you in that im really not enjoying school at the moment, but am willing to stick it out if it means i can become a pilot.
It's difficult to say! I wouldn't know what degree would be best. I would recommend to go for something that would interest you so at the very least it can keep you engaged. With the lowering of the intake age, it might be tight to apply for another role and transfer across. You could always try first and if you are unsuccessful then apply for another role and try again later. You need to weigh up all the options and workout a realistic timeline on where everything will fit. It might be an option to head to your 'local' AFCO and speak with one of the recruitment team in there. They might suggest a more optimal route for you. Either way, whatever you decide, good luck with it!
Not sure if you still need an answer but as a current aerospace engineering student final year, with experience in a gliding club. Engineering definitely gives you a lot more insight on how an aircraft works but no degree will ever give you enough to know proper hands on knowledge of aircraft operation, gliding is probably the closest thing that will give you *some* transferable skills to becoming a pilot because gliding is just that much more harsher than powered flight as you just can't go around. But don't worry about getting an "appropriate" degree. At the end it's just a piece of paper but if you insist, aerospace engineering is probably the one you want if you want something aircraft related. Physics is extremely generalised so you probably wouldn't learn anything about aerodynamics which would be more important to a pilot.
@@Boggler343joining college/university may be a good idea if you can join an air university squadron which is basically like joining the officer reserves. But it's very very competitive and if you can't join first year they expect you to join the second year with considerable improvement. But if that isn't possible it probably wouldn't be worth it. If you do manage to get in, you'll get a flying scholarship which needless to say is the ideal outcome. God speed
Hey! Love the video. I applied a couple days ago to join the RAF. Just got a couple of quick questions. What are your thoughts of joining at 16 years of age? and If I went into a course for a year and a half then decided to swap would they allow you? Since, I want to swap to being a pilot when i'm 17 1/2 since that is the minimum age requirement.
Hi, I was just wondering about when you spoke about leaving your initial role to change to pilot. Did you have to completely quit and restart your application process again as a pilot instead, or are there routes within the RAF that allow you to transfer roles?
Hi! Sorry for the delay! You can stay within the service and you transfer across. I went from a non-commissioned role to a commissioned one so when I moved across, I simply started the initial officer training.
Probably, the minimum requirements are grade 4 or above in English and math plus 3 other subjects but if you have only grade 5 and someone else has grade 7 then they will most likely be picked over you.
I have two questions, firstly how old can you be to join as a pilot and secondly, do you get to choose from the three different types of aircraft or not?
Just a quick question mate, do you get to choose which stream of Aircraft you would like or does it get selected for you because currently I'm nearly 14 and would like to be a Fast Jet Pilot in the future. P.S. Well done on your journey throughout the RAF, I wish you an amazing career in the future
It's a bit of both. You are able to put down your preference, which does play its part. But performance and ultimately service need play a major part. Thank you and good luck.
Quick question, if you don’t qualify to become the pilot you wanted to be, but get a job in that Air Force field, could you later on try to qualify and become a pilot later on? Possibly years later?
I hope this answers your question correctly… if you apply for the role of a Pilot but are unsuccessful, yet you join the RAF in a different role. You can still apply to be a Pilot again later on although you will still be restricted by the entry requirements. (In rare circumstances, you can be granted an age waiver if you are just past the age cut off) I can’t remember the exact amount of time but you will need to wait before applying again, I think something like 6 or 12 months. The RAF recruitment team will be able to provide you with more information on this. I followed this path, starting within the non-commissioned ranks and then applying at a later date.
Not particularly, only if you have a specific location as a preference. There are opportunities for exchange Pilot roles with other nations, not too many though. There might be a possibility of heading off to the Navy ship but that would be only on the F35.
After 'Elemental flying training', this is the initial flying training you receive. You will then be streamed onto either Multi engine, Rotary or Fast jet. (I think RPAS is coming into that but i'm not sure yet) That is chosen firstly based on your performance during the initial training, then your preference or service need. After that depending on where you are streamed you will then carry out the training relevant to those platforms and at the end you will be role disposed to the aircraft available within your streamed area, (Chinnock and Puma within the rotary stream for example). This is determined again, by your performance, preference and service need.
Something probably a lot of people have wondered, do you need 20/20 vision to be a pilot? I've heard lots of opinions on that and seen extracts from RAF documents but also heard lots of experiences
Hi, I’m not 100% sure. I would recommend messaging an AFCO and asking the question. The recruitment website isn’t too specific ‘Eyesight requirements vary for different roles. A requirement to wear glasses or contact lenses may be allowed for aircrew.’ But there are definitely Pilots that wear glasses, I cannot guarantee whether a new applicant requires good eyesight and then once in the ‘system’ is allowed glasses or you can apply with them. Sorry I couldn’t help more.
The current age cut off is to have applied before your 23rd birthday. This is for direct entry pilots. It may be that you could join as another branch and work your way across. I’m not sure if that would be possible at the moment but definitely something you would speak with the recruitment team about.
Hi, not exactly. You can have a preference, initially that preference will be with the type of aircraft (Fast Jet/Rotary/Multi engine) then once you are streamed into one of those you will again have a preference on the specific aircraft within that group but ultimately the choice comes down to service need and availability.
Not having joined a UAS I can’t really say. There were several people who joined up with me who came from a UAS. If you are heading to University anyway it seems like a good option to at least get exposure and experience to flying and the RAF system. There will probably be more information on student forums or official websites that can provide you with more information. It will help having some flying under your belt before starting training or even applying for the role. But still possible without, I applied with no previous experience but I did have experience within the wider RAF.
hello there i have a question regarding cbat and having not so long ago getting to oasc for pilot. I got 134 for pilot but people are telling me for the future they are looking for at least 150 or more and for oasc from what im told by my recruiters i did very well. but for cbat that seems quite a big jump for me so im bit in the mud as to what to do im also 20 and theres the risk the role wont open before im 23. Thank you very much for your time. And for reference I attended oasc in November 2021
Hi, thanks for your comment. There were rumours when I went through that the threshold was going to increase to 150, I don’t think that it ever did, even temporarily. Even if it was to, you should have an opportunity to retake the cbat depending on your progress and result of your previous time at OASC. From what I remember I think there was a time delay attached to that. With regards to age, yes it is crazy that the new cut off is 23 (24 by IOT) BUT! when I applied I was at the age cut off and had to apply for an age waiver. So although that would not be ideal, if you have what they want there are examples (me included) who have been successful after the age cut off. From what it sounds like, you are doing all the right things. Hopefully they will open up more slots soon, there was a similar action in 2010 where they paused recruitment but that caused more issues so hopefully this will be more temporary and you hear something soon!
@@cargoraygaming9274 they only pick the best of the best though so i'd assume they want high achieving individuals. there were 10,000 applicants last year and only 60 got in and 50/60 of those we're university graduates with top grades
Being good at maths will help you massively, if you can process numbers quickly and can do equations in your head, you will find a lot of stuff much easier, to apply to be a pilot you will need English (Language) and Maths GCSEs along with 3 other subjects, all at Grade C/4 or above. A-Levels are really there to show the RAF that you are somewhat educated and are willing to work. You need at least 2 A2 Levels/3 Highers at Grade C or higher, if I was you I would pick mathematics and english, or to impress also something like history, geography or physics as all of those can come in handy in pretty much any situation in the RAF. Good luck!
Military are too restricting. I lived overseas on account of my dads job, then returned UK. Raf said not eligible to apply, despite being born in UK and british passport holders. Having lived overseas shouldnt restrict you. Seemingly due to vetting process
It is something it irritated me when I was trying to be qualified for the army. Why was this, when was that. Questions that had nothing to do to becoming a soldier. You already guessed: I did not qualify.
Hi, hope all is well. Adding to this question, do you know of any occasions where someone has been retrained onto another type of aircraft?- eg(multi engine to fast jet/rotary)-possibly after serving many years on the previous aircraft.
@@Robby-gill I have heard of that its just that there is a burden on the service to retrain you and it usually happens when transferring between branches
Best advice is to try it and if you fail, learn and try again. Very few succeed first time regardless of the amount of prep and generally you learn a lot more from failure - applies to anything worth getting in life.
A philosophy to live by!
As an aspiring RAF Pilot, This is the best advice. Thank you very much!!!
Good luck!
@@CuriousPilot90I know this is an odd question but as a Canadian I seem to have a extremely hard time on finding the career path to becoming a pilot
I work for a job recruiter in a completely different industry, and your advice is good for other professions as well. Consciously working toward making yourself a well-rounded person can be helpful on your CV, but it's also helpful for your life in general. 🙂
Good luck with your flying career mate. You’re a good bloke for sharing. 👍
Thank you. It always better to learn from someone else’s mistakes 😁
Thank you so much for this. It’s what I needed to hear. I’m midway through the application now, got my RITS interview (online, not even with a recruiter nowadays) in about 2 weeks. I’m Worried I don’t have enough proof of volunteering/leadership experience, but I’m hoping that everything else I have going for me will be enough to pull me through to OASC. I Can prove myself there.
I have been doing what you described and building it up too much in my head. Hearing that the worst thing I can hear is just “no” is exactly what I needed to hear. Thank you again. Hope to see you around ;)
Wish you the best of luck, im not even in uni rn but im hoping that i will go through uni and come out to train and fly a typhoon.
Just practice for the CBAT most important first hurdle and is damn tricky
I hope it went well James.
@@CuriousPilot90 it did! Just passed fitness. OASC next, any tips? 😅
@@jameshanley9418 That's fantastic! It might have changed since I went through, but I did speak to a friend of mine the other day that went through it recently. Just remember that they are looking for leadership qualities, look to add positive input even when you are not in the leader role. Best of luck!
Don’t let the long odds stop you applying. If you don’t make it for pilot do consider other roles. It’s a great career.
The RAF has a great history. Thank you for this wonderful video.
They don't hire white men
A quick update to the aircrew selection process. After CBAT testing at Cranwell, the filter interview has now become SHINE pre recorded interview. If your CBAT scores are good enough you will be sent a link which opens a set of pre determined questions which you then record your answers. You get between 90secs and 2 minutes to answer, you can re record an answer if you stumble. The time scale is a week from your link going active. The questions are as mentioned, current events, NATO,AirPower- what is it? General things like why do you want to join the RAF. Lots of info about SHINE on Reddit links. This has now replaced the face to face interview before OASC. Fail this interview and its goodbye and thanks for trying. Pass and its on to OASC.
thx man im 14 and this is my dream , i thought i would never be able to make it but you gave me hope and i will do my best
Not to shit on your dream young man but the waiting time for becoming a Pilot may never come so you may become a desk jockey.
If this is your dream fight for it! I'm 24 and thinking of enlisting my big age .
never let anybody tell you no
@@mradrianmac yeah anyway the entire world has a lack of pilots you got this man
In 1971, I spent a pleasant afternoon in a bar (Eddies in Wickrath) not too far from Larrbruch drinking beer with a Lightning pilot. His major observation was… “the number of landings recorded in your log should equal the number of take offs!”… he then fell off the bar stool.
Such a cool story! Would love to hear more!
@@diqital_aviator The story is old and told by basicaly everyone who served in the air force or even as a civilian pilot
@@JustAnOrdinarySimmerMy point still stands
Currently in uni about to start my second year but always had a dream and passion of becoming a RAF fighter pilot ,most likely will join after I finish hopefully there will be enough spaces available and genuinely hope our government invests more money into our military so more people have the opportunity
im exactly the same, studying aerospace engineering
same here guys mechanical engineering and hoping to apply for fighter pilot after
@@Kzasssss are you in university air squadron?
Thanks so much for this insight, best video on this topic out there!
This video was quite interesting. I am 19 and just did my CBAT at RAF Cramwell I couple days ago. I am aspiring to be a pilot, however sadly I was a single stanine point off qualifying. I know I can retake the test, however you can only do so every 12 months and do not wish to delay myself joining the RAF. I am now looking at other roles as I qualify for everything besides Pilot and Pilot ISR (RPAS). I still haven't given up on my dream of being a pilot however.
Interesting journey, thanks for sharing!
No problem, I hope it helps.
Amazing. thanks, gave me more motivation. I've done aero space engineering incollege and currently doing a level physics to help me become a navy pilot. Also went air cadets so hoping they will consider me. Only have a year left until I'm too old to join :/
I'd be happy just to part of their service and ground crews. Greetings from the Philippines mates 🇵🇭
Amazing video! Gave me a great insight into what kind of thing I will potentially experience in years to come. I just wanted to ask whether saying you are an air cadet is credited or accounted for during the selection process as I am currently an air cadet myself and I feel like the qualities I am gaining and will continue to gain will be incredibly advantageous for when joining the RAF - please share your views if you disagree with this. Finally, may I ask why you chose the multi-engine aircraft route? I am hoping to specialize in rotary aircraft - a chinook if possible.
Hi Joseph, I was in the Air Cadets for a little while when I was younger. I am not part of the recruitment process so these are only really my thoughts, but as long as you take advantage of what the Air Cadets can offer you I think it will help. When it comes to the selection process, leadership experience or times you have worked within a team will help, and the air cadets can offer you that opportunity. You can, of course, get those experiences elsewhere, but it should help that they were within a known organisation and in a military style environment.
I chose multi-engine as my first choice as it provided the best work/life balance and locations for me and my family. Rotary was my original dream but I had to put it second for those previous reasons.
Best of luck on your journey!
Very helpful video! Just wondering about the part where you’re put into one of the three types (the rotary fast jet and multi engine) and how that works? Do you yourself say what you prefer or do they choose for you?
Hi! It’s a bit of both. You put your preference order and based on that, your performance and spaces available, it is selected.
I'm doing work experience in RAF Valley, which has reminded me about how I wished to become a pilot.
Thanks for this video it's very informative.
Could you tell me more about this work experience opportunity
It has been my dream since I was 6 to be a fighter pilot. It all started when I saw the red arrows when I was young and seeing f-15s fly over me at the Lake District and from then on, I’ve become obsessed with aircraft. I really want this job and any more tips would be appreciated to boost my chances of being a fast jet pilot. (I am 14 now and coming up on year 10 so any school tips would be appreciated nice too!)
I’m 13 years old and I’m really interested in the airforce I hope to become a pilot I don’t think it will work out but if I don’t try then it definitely won’t this video helped me understand a lot thank you
Best advice find Doctor Who go back to 1966 join as a GD/P and be combat ready on a front line fast jet Squadron in Germany or Cyprus or Singapore within 3 years...today forget it .
You are doing great sir! Bugger on! Respect!
Thank you so much very informative video 👍
Hi I’m currently at college doing a Uniformed public service course in my first year not the smartest of guys out there. Found this video very helpful and made me realise I may have a chance as I’m looking at going for pilot. Thank you best of luck with your training and which stream are you going through?
Hi Josh, thanks for the comment, I selected the multi engine stream, good luck with everything!
Rather than say “I’m not the smartest of guys” recognise that you are prepared to develop yourself further. You have areas of weakness which you have recognised and have a plan to improve. You clearly have strengths which you are developing further too! Don’t undersell yourself, be positive, your glass is half full not empty - best of luck 👍
I wanted to join the uniformed services since i was 14. I went and did a uniformed services college course (which was amazing btw i got to meet amazing people) i then went on and got a Level 3 personal training certificate because I've always loved training and routine and i have the most amount of grits and sheer will to win and become better. Which my supervisors loved about me, and that motivated me to give my absolute best no matter what. Now I am 18 i wanted to to apply for university in sport and exercise science but student finance does not want to fund me, i was sure that i am going to enroll eventually i just did not know when. But hey. Now i will apply as a pilot in RAF because i have always loved planes, ( and was mesmerised by Top Gun hahaha) so yeah. Thanks for the read. T minus 8 months to get in the best physical shape i can be❤.
Hey! I'm 15 years old at the moment, looking to be a pilot in the RAF, I'm working hard to get into the RAF ASAP.
Good luck
Thank you so much for this video, genuinely helped me. I’ve wanted to be a pilot for a decade now, I’m 18 and I wanna be a pilot so bad but everyone makes it sound like it’s impossible, but I believe I can do it. But I have 2 questions, 1: if I don’t really have much extracurricular activities can I still get in or don’t I stand a chance? And 2: how hard are the aptitude tests?
I’ve been dreaming about flying the Mach loop ever since I did an outward bound course 😂
Thanks for this video, my dream is to become a Eurofighter Pilot
Hello mate, great video. I am an inspiring pilot, hopefully to fly the P8-Poseidon or the voyager,but the problem I have is that I wear glasses. I spoke to the RAF call centre which they gave me great advise, but have you got any thoughts on this and how it may effect me when I do the interview or fitness/ medical checks.
Hi, I’m not sure on the entry requirements for eye sight but it’s perfectly normal for aircrew to wear glasses with aircrew glasses being issued. Like you have done, take advice from the most up to date source for recruitment. If you are still eligible with your current eyesight then it shouldn’t have any effect on your interview/medical checks. Just approach them as you normally would! Take advice where ever you can get it and good luck! Both P8 and Voyager are in lovely parts of the UK, one much more north than the other!
@@CuriousPilot90 thank you mate, I hope you enjoy being a pilot, maybe see you in the future. 😁
@@thenobleduke1758 Hopefully! Good Luck!
Fascinating! Thank you!
Great video and lot's of help thanks. I hope to become a Royal Air Force fast jet pilot soon and have just started my application process (P2 presentation in a few weeks). Although for the future stages of the application, I'm struggling on current affairs I'm struggling to find some relevant / good topics and wondered if you could give me any ideas and examples if that's alright. Thanks
Hi! Good luck with your application, there are many current affairs topics out there big and small. A few that come to mind would be the ongoing conflict in Ukraine, Sweden joining NATO and Turkey's involvement in the process. There are many political events in the UK at the moment, have a quick scan around there will be tons of interesting topics.
@@CuriousPilot90 Cheers for the advice. A bit strange but do you have a social media? I'd love for any extra advice from you if that's ok?
thank you very much, it has been my dream to join the RAF and i will take all these things into account throught the rest of my education. Do you need a university degree to be an officer?
Currently I don't think you do, just up to A levels. I would double check that though :)
Are you a master at waiting to be trained after passing entrance? if your answer is yes then you too could become an RAF pilot someday....eventually.....20 years wait tops.
Good advice though!
Thanks man really helpful.
Air cadets would help aswell wouldnt it? Surely the training it similar, (drill,fieldcraft,teamwork skills,thought processes etc)
You probably aren’t going to read this but I’m looking to join the fleet air arm as a Merlin pilot in a few years but the main issue is I don’t have perfect vision I have to wear glasses to see . I currently am not sure if pilots can have laser eye surgery to correct this but whilst you were in training did you know any rotary wing pilots who wore glasses ?
Crazy I turned 15 and want to join the raf
Hello mate again, how’s your career going now. Did you use a CBAT app when learning? Because I think this will be useful for me?could you recommend any for me or anyone else watching. (If you do mention it in the vid I do apologise it been like 6 months since I watched it fully😂😂
How are the holds at the moment? Will it get any better or is it just a part of the MFTS experience now?
Thank you very much. I was wondering what the selection or streaming process was after you finish the basic flight training before you are dedicated a specialised aircraft type like fast jet and multi rotor. I have searched on the internet for answers but I haven’t been able to find any. I would love to fly in a Typhoon or F35B but I have come to realise that it is not your decision in what aircraft type you go into.
Hi! You are streamed into the main roles (multi engine, fast jet and rotary) after elementary flying training (EFT). This is done based on your performance during EFT, service need and your preference. Every effort will be made to fulfil your preference but if there are those more suitable for the roles they will be given that opportunity. But ultimately, the number of spaces available will be down to the service need. So to sum up, if you perform highly and there are fast jet slots available you should be able to get it but it cannot be guaranteed. Hopefully that helps. 😬
@@CuriousPilot90thank you very much. I was thinking that you had no choice on what you get. Thank you for clearing that up.
hey, i’m currently 15 and want to become a fighter pilot. i’m currently looking to do a levels and which would u most recommend, would engineering help massively or does it not matter too much? Also do u need a degree to apply or not?
Do you have to go to university? And also at what age do you need to be for the interviews and stuff?
Hello, I hope you are having a good day. I am from Nepal, and i want to be an airline pilot. What can i do? I know there are gurkhas in the UK. What can I do to be an airline pilot ?
Thankyou.
This has been great to watch, and I kind of want to know your thoughts and opinions on this...
I am currently 15, nearly 16. And I go to RAF Cadets. I have Cs in English, Science, WBQ, Religious studies etc, a D in maths, though I am expected a C and above in Maths for my last exam this year. I am currently REALLY interested in the RAF, and being a pilot is one of my dreams. I kind of do feel the way you described, that I feel it's unattainable, and i've tried to do my best research. I understand I need A levels, but I don't think i'm gonna be able to get those... so after doing my research, I realised a few things, I could go as an aircraft technician, do my level 3 NVQ qualification, (doing level 2 in school, got a B) then do an apprenticeship, then apply for officer role, since everything else, including my length of service by then will cross out the need for A levels. I was wondering your thoughts on this, and if you could sort of point me in the right direction anymore that I can. Thanks in advance!
It sounds like you have done research into the different avenues to take. The difference between when I went through and your journey is that the age restriction was higher for me so I'm not sure how that will affect you if this path takes you beyond 23 years old. ( Something you may have already researched or it would be good to put it past one of the recruiters in the recruitment office) If you can try to bump up those maths and english results to B's, that will only help no matter what avenue you decide to take. One of the benefits of this plan would be that even at the very least you will be qualified as an aircraft technician through the apprenticeship, that is still a positive outcome. Good luck!
@@CuriousPilot90 Cheers, I spoke to one of the old Cadets in my Squadron who left in 2022 but came back to visit today, who is now an Officer in the RAF as a Weapons Systems Officer, and he also spoke about the age restrictions. He kind of told me that even if I do exceed the age limit, being an aircraft technician/engineer would be great, and told me that if I was below the age limit by then, and I really wanted it, then do it.
Or in summary, he kind of said the same things you said.
So uh yeah, thanks again!
How did you get a Masters without completing A-levels? I feel like i can't afford going through with a masters after undegrad - that 24 year old cut-off is looming 😂
(Currently in Year 12, maybe thinking a bit far ahead)
how do i prepare to be an officer? what kind of stuff do i need to know? attitude etc? im worried my c in maths will prevent me being able to be an officer, i have 3 A levels and will have a degree before i join
raf is topnotch!
Im currently hating sixth form, Im year 12 (Just turned 17) and about to apply for an RAF apprenticeship with 2 years training and 3 years stay post training. Thats 5 years. By the time thats done I should be around 23 which is the final age to start pilot training. I would do pilot training after a levels but i am hating them a lot, and RAF apprenticeship seems like the only other options i can find. So, if i did an RAF apprenticeship and switched if i still wanted to be a pilot - after 5 years - will i be able to start that at age 23 even though that is the maximum age? I hope you reply soon as my applications are just starting :D
Hi Samantha, great question, as you know from the video I wasn't enjoying my A levels too much either, I did go a different way but if I had stayed I would have maybe got there sooner. With regards to the recruitment age, it currently stands that the age cut off is 23 (Must have entered Initial Officer Training by your 24th birthday). So as long as you are below that age, applying should be accepted (As long as recruitment is open at that time). There is sometimes a bit of time between selection and starting so it might be an option that you actually apply for the role a little earlier just as you are finishing your apprenticship/degree whichever direction you choose to go. I would keep an eye on the recuitment website, just to keep up to date of the entry requirments. It was 25 years old when I applied and now 23, it's just an example of how things can change. I hope that helps.
Wich plane do you fly? Love your videos.Thanks...
Hello, all I’ve ever wanted to do is fly fast jets, and I can’t get behind flying multi engines or rotors. Any advice on getting picked for a fast jet?
The only advice I can really give is to try your best. It would help to have some aviation experience before arriving as every flight is graded and these add up to your overall performance report at the end which is used to assist with streaming. But ultimately, availability of spaces when you go through will play a part. All three of the types are brilliant offering different experiences. So come into it, driving for fast jets but accepting that the other types will still be a great career.
Were you in the air cadets?
What Role were you in prior to pilot and what age did you start and finish that?
Should you apply as soon as you are old enough or try to build yourself first?
I'm doing sixth form and planning to try and join the raf as a pilot when i finish, with activities outside of education im not sure what to do, i go to the gym but thats about it
What Alevels do you take?
Cdt williams?
there is a guy that i know called max williams
How much do grades matter? And does it matter if you don’t to cadets and still apply for the RAF because I want to see what like in the SAS or as an astronaut is like.
Is it better to go through uni then join or just college? Im studying Physics, Maths, Economics at college right now and am very interested in becoming a military pilot, got any tips?
Hi sir, just a couple of questions, what pilot are you training to be? Fast jet? Fixed wing? And what was your previous role?
Sincerely,
A fellow serviceman😎
Hi Kieran, I streamed multi engine and I was in the RAF Police previously 👮♂️
We have a lot of similarities. Didn’t get the scholarship, joined the MP’s then pilot training lol @@CuriousPilot90
@@CuriousPilot90how did you go for pilot while already in the RAF? I was told by my recruiter that lateral movement is highly unlikely, you can only progress upwards not sidestep into another role? I didn't meet the cbat score by one point and would like to go for it again but while I'm in the RAF is this possible?
@@jackcooper624 The recruiter will be your best source of current information. What they have said would make sense, I haven't seen many people 'sidestep', the only examples I can think of are from RPAS to Pilot but that was a specific scheme and still fairly rare. The way it worked for me was 'progress upwards' as I was a non-commissioned rank and then applied for commision under a different trade/branch.
@@CuriousPilot90 ah thankyou for that info. I'm currently entering as a commissioned role (air ops systems) now as I was unsuccessful for pilot and couldn't do rpas due to duel nationality. Just curious with you commissioning into the role, did you still have to be under the 24 threshold?
I'm planning to enlist in the R.A.F as a Eurofighter pilot, but I'm worried that on that 2 day test I'm not going to get to be able to select to be a pilot
Just give it a go and see. You won't know if you don't try.
Can i ask what role did you have in the RAF before becoming a pilot?
Can people without perfect vision fly with the RAF or AAC? I fly already, not in a professional capacity however I do have a class 2 medical and (eligable for class 1). I wear glases when I fly about -2.
Do you get to choose whether you fly fast jet or is it assigned to you?
Also after you’ve committed to 12 years of service can you swap roles? (eg pilot to mechanic, or mechanic to pilot)
Hi, everyone starts flying training at ‘Elementary Flying Training’ during this course you are taught the ‘Elementary’ parts of flying but are also graded for every trip. At the end of the course there are three streams, Fast jet/Multi Engine/Rotary and you can put a preference down on which ones you would prefer. Based on your performance, preference and what is available, you will be selected for one of the roles.
With regard to moving roles/trades, it is possible but some of the entry requirements will still remain,for example age. Once you have finished training you commit to a return of service, the length of which differs depending on which role you are.
Hi I was just wondering I want to fly fast jet that it was I've alwayse wanted to do and still want to do. What happens if I don't get selected for that and instead go onto another type of aircraft? Am I just stuck doing that?
The talent air forces across the world have missed out because some don't have a degree is hindering these air forces
Insightful and interesting video, thank you.
Probably all you get asked about, but with regards to the Pilot role, are there any other indirect routes into joining or flying training you know of please?
I am now 23 and have enquired about applying for an age waiver but been told they are not available for RAF- Pilot. I am sitting in the RN waiting list but have been told 2025/26 is the next viable and potential intake.
With this in mind, I have come through uni and UAS and would like to know if there is a sponsorship or cadetship, recognised by the military, in order to lend myself to joining, (e.g the Euro- NATO or RAF reserves routes?).
I understand this is a novel request and mechanism to enquire, however the AFCOs are short on internal info.
Any advice or info would be great, thanks.
Hmmm, this is the difficulty of the age restriction being much lower now. I'm not sure of any sponsorships that provide a route. I have heard and seen in the past of a limited number of RPAS pilot's who have managed to jump across. It may be that you could enquire about the possibility of joining as RPAS (Which is still a fulfilling role) and if there is still an opportunity to transfer across later on in your career.
Good luck.
RPAS does interest me, I have heard of SR’s for Airtanker, but I believe it is accessible to CPL Pilots, I will look into any other routes.
Thank you for your help.
Hi mate, currently interested in a career as a pilot in the RAF. This video really helped me decide that that is what i wanted to do. Currently in a local gliding club and army cadets. What degrees do you think would help me most when becoming a pilot? I think im going to try get a degree in physics or something of that nature. Thanks
Also do you think i should go to college before joining the RAF and trying to become a pilot ‘upfront’ or should i join the RAF in a different role at first as you did? I am similar to you in that im really not enjoying school at the moment, but am willing to stick it out if it means i can become a pilot.
It's difficult to say! I wouldn't know what degree would be best. I would recommend to go for something that would interest you so at the very least it can keep you engaged. With the lowering of the intake age, it might be tight to apply for another role and transfer across. You could always try first and if you are unsuccessful then apply for another role and try again later. You need to weigh up all the options and workout a realistic timeline on where everything will fit. It might be an option to head to your 'local' AFCO and speak with one of the recruitment team in there. They might suggest a more optimal route for you. Either way, whatever you decide, good luck with it!
@@CuriousPilot90thank you!
Not sure if you still need an answer but as a current aerospace engineering student final year, with experience in a gliding club. Engineering definitely gives you a lot more insight on how an aircraft works but no degree will ever give you enough to know proper hands on knowledge of aircraft operation, gliding is probably the closest thing that will give you *some* transferable skills to becoming a pilot because gliding is just that much more harsher than powered flight as you just can't go around. But don't worry about getting an "appropriate" degree. At the end it's just a piece of paper but if you insist, aerospace engineering is probably the one you want if you want something aircraft related. Physics is extremely generalised so you probably wouldn't learn anything about aerodynamics which would be more important to a pilot.
@@Boggler343joining college/university may be a good idea if you can join an air university squadron which is basically like joining the officer reserves. But it's very very competitive and if you can't join first year they expect you to join the second year with considerable improvement. But if that isn't possible it probably wouldn't be worth it.
If you do manage to get in, you'll get a flying scholarship which needless to say is the ideal outcome. God speed
@Curious Pilot which A Levels did you do? And how much does that influence the chance of being selected? Cheers
If your white they won't hire you. They don't want useless white men ... their words not mine
What was the other job in the RAF you did?
Hey! Love the video. I applied a couple days ago to join the RAF. Just got a couple of quick questions. What are your thoughts of joining at 16 years of age? and If I went into a course for a year and a half then decided to swap would they allow you? Since, I want to swap to being a pilot when i'm 17 1/2 since that is the minimum age requirement.
Are you a white male ?? If you are good luck they only hire blacks or women.
Hi, I was just wondering about when you spoke about leaving your initial role to change to pilot. Did you have to completely quit and restart your application process again as a pilot instead, or are there routes within the RAF that allow you to transfer roles?
Hi! Sorry for the delay! You can stay within the service and you transfer across. I went from a non-commissioned role to a commissioned one so when I moved across, I simply started the initial officer training.
@CuriousPilot90 Hey, could I ask what role you previously had?
(Nevermind, I've found it out with a quick check of the comments)
Education wise, do they prioritise people with better education over others?
Probably, the minimum requirements are grade 4 or above in English and math plus 3 other subjects but if you have only grade 5 and someone else has grade 7 then they will most likely be picked over you.
I fly everything in VR these days and I don't have to sell my soul to do it!
They don't hire white men anyway
I have two questions, firstly how old can you be to join as a pilot and secondly, do you get to choose from the three different types of aircraft or not?
For RAF it's 17.5 you can opt for one l, but there's no guarantee you get it
Just a quick question mate, do you get to choose which stream of Aircraft you would like or does it get selected for you because currently I'm nearly 14 and would like to be a Fast Jet Pilot in the future.
P.S. Well done on your journey throughout the RAF, I wish you an amazing career in the future
It's a bit of both. You are able to put down your preference, which does play its part. But performance and ultimately service need play a major part.
Thank you and good luck.
@@CuriousPilot90 Thank you mate
Quick question, if you don’t qualify to become the pilot you wanted to be, but get a job in that Air Force field, could you later on try to qualify and become a pilot later on? Possibly years later?
I hope this answers your question correctly… if you apply for the role of a Pilot but are unsuccessful, yet you join the RAF in a different role. You can still apply to be a Pilot again later on although you will still be restricted by the entry requirements. (In rare circumstances, you can be granted an age waiver if you are just past the age cut off) I can’t remember the exact amount of time but you will need to wait before applying again, I think something like 6 or 12 months. The RAF recruitment team will be able to provide you with more information on this.
I followed this path, starting within the non-commissioned ranks and then applying at a later date.
@@CuriousPilot90 awesome thank you so much! That really helped me with my situation :D
Does where you live affect what raf base you go to and can raf pilots be assigned in other countries or navy warships?
Not particularly, only if you have a specific location as a preference.
There are opportunities for exchange Pilot roles with other nations, not too many though. There might be a possibility of heading off to the Navy ship but that would be only on the F35.
Are you able to have any input on what type of aircraft youre steamed to? If not, how is it determined? Thanks
After 'Elemental flying training', this is the initial flying training you receive. You will then be streamed onto either Multi engine, Rotary or Fast jet. (I think RPAS is coming into that but i'm not sure yet) That is chosen firstly based on your performance during the initial training, then your preference or service need. After that depending on where you are streamed you will then carry out the training relevant to those platforms and at the end you will be role disposed to the aircraft available within your streamed area, (Chinnock and Puma within the rotary stream for example). This is determined again, by your performance, preference and service need.
Something probably a lot of people have wondered, do you need 20/20 vision to be a pilot? I've heard lots of opinions on that and seen extracts from RAF documents but also heard lots of experiences
Hi, I’m not 100% sure. I would recommend messaging an AFCO and asking the question. The recruitment website isn’t too specific ‘Eyesight requirements vary for different roles. A requirement to wear glasses or contact lenses may be allowed for aircrew.’ But there are definitely Pilots that wear glasses, I cannot guarantee whether a new applicant requires good eyesight and then once in the ‘system’ is allowed glasses or you can apply with them. Sorry I couldn’t help more.
@@CuriousPilot90 that's fine, for myself it's just a small error in my left eye, I don't wear glasses to correct it
What role did you originally have in the RAF?
How old were you when you joined the raf? I’m guessing close to or 18, I have alot of questions due to the fact that my dream is to be an raf pilot.
I was! I turned 18 shortly after joining.
If u don’t mind could u tell me a bit abt rotary wing and multi-engine pls?
Im currently 25, is it too late for me to become an raf pilot?
The current age cut off is to have applied before your 23rd birthday. This is for direct entry pilots. It may be that you could join as another branch and work your way across. I’m not sure if that would be possible at the moment but definitely something you would speak with the recruitment team about.
Do you get to choose what aircraft type you go in and how is is it asessed.
Hi, not exactly. You can have a preference, initially that preference will be with the type of aircraft (Fast Jet/Rotary/Multi engine) then once you are streamed into one of those you will again have a preference on the specific aircraft within that group but ultimately the choice comes down to service need and availability.
My parent don’t support me any advice 😢 ?
Can a American join
I have adhd am 18 I can do basic math could a join
Thinking of joining through a UAS , what do you think? is it doable ?
Not having joined a UAS I can’t really say. There were several people who joined up with me who came from a UAS. If you are heading to University anyway it seems like a good option to at least get exposure and experience to flying and the RAF system. There will probably be more information on student forums or official websites that can provide you with more information.
It will help having some flying under your belt before starting training or even applying for the role. But still possible without, I applied with no previous experience but I did have experience within the wider RAF.
Is your aircraft type picked randomly ?
What aircraft do you fly ?
Do you get any choice in what aircraft you get streamed into?
From what I’ve heard at recruitment stands no i dont think you get to decide
hello there i have a question regarding cbat and having not so long ago getting to oasc for pilot. I got 134 for pilot but people are telling me for the future they are looking for at least 150 or more and for oasc from what im told by my recruiters i did very well. but for cbat that seems quite a big jump for me so im bit in the mud as to what to do im also 20 and theres the risk the role wont open before im 23. Thank you very much for your time.
And for reference I attended oasc in November 2021
Hi, thanks for your comment. There were rumours when I went through that the threshold was going to increase to 150, I don’t think that it ever did, even temporarily. Even if it was to, you should have an opportunity to retake the cbat depending on your progress and result of your previous time at OASC. From what I remember I think there was a time delay attached to that. With regards to age, yes it is crazy that the new cut off is 23 (24 by IOT) BUT! when I applied I was at the age cut off and had to apply for an age waiver. So although that would not be ideal, if you have what they want there are examples (me included) who have been successful after the age cut off. From what it sounds like, you are doing all the right things. Hopefully they will open up more slots soon, there was a similar action in 2010 where they paused recruitment but that caused more issues so hopefully this will be more temporary and you hear something soon!
@@CuriousPilot90 thank you for your response I'll take it on board as to what you have said hopefully it opens back up soon.
What did you get in your GCSE's and A levels? if you don't mind me asking
Why does that matter? The minimum requirements are listed on the raf website
@@cargoraygaming9274 they only pick the best of the best though so i'd assume they want high achieving individuals. there were 10,000 applicants last year and only 60 got in and 50/60 of those we're university graduates with top grades
I found this very helpful , i would love to have a chat with you privately if possible?
It would be best to contact me via email and I will get back to you when I can. :)
Did you went past the minimum age (23) when you applied for pilot again?
At the time when I applied the age cut off was 25 (26 during Initial Officer Training)
Is it too late at 19. I've got 9 gcses but no a levels. I'm willing to study and sit the a levels exams
What’s stopping you
I’m only 14 but I want to be a fighter pilot but what can I do to build knowledge early on
just mainly focus on your studies. they want individuals who are academically proficient since it demonstrates discipline and intellectuality
Hey quick question, is it required to be good at maths and science to get a pilots job, and what A levels are good to choose.
Being good at maths will help you massively, if you can process numbers quickly and can do equations in your head, you will find a lot of stuff much easier, to apply to be a pilot you will need English (Language) and Maths GCSEs along with 3 other subjects, all at Grade C/4 or above. A-Levels are really there to show the RAF that you are somewhat educated and are willing to work. You need at least 2 A2 Levels/3 Highers at Grade C or higher, if I was you I would pick mathematics and english, or to impress also something like history, geography or physics as all of those can come in handy in pretty much any situation in the RAF.
Good luck!
Military are too restricting. I lived overseas on account of my dads job, then returned UK. Raf said not eligible to apply, despite being born in UK and british passport holders. Having lived overseas shouldnt restrict you. Seemingly due to vetting process
It is something it irritated me when I was trying to be qualified for the army. Why was this, when was that. Questions that had nothing to do to becoming a soldier. You already guessed: I did not qualify.
What's the chance of being streamed into fast jets? I've heard the pilot role is starting to open up again.
It all depends on what spaces are available (which fluctuate throughout the year) and your performance.
Hi, hope all is well. Adding to this question, do you know of any occasions where someone has been retrained onto another type of aircraft?- eg(multi engine to fast jet/rotary)-possibly after serving many years on the previous aircraft.
@@Robby-gill I have heard of that its just that there is a burden on the service to retrain you and it usually happens when transferring between branches
@@bundat267 yeah that makes sense
@@CuriousPilot90 Have you possibly heard of occasions like this?
What did degree did you do please ?