I would never buy a game from China, which is the most evil regime to exist in the history of man kind. China has killed more people than Hitler and Stalin combined, and they are still killing.
Games without any prebuilt towns or NPCs really concern me. Players are a great way to enhance a game world, but it just doens't work when they have to build the entire world.
Star Wars Galaxies did a great job with player cities/housing. Then WoW came out and rather than stay the course they completely 180*d their game and pissed off the remaining players who didn't leave for WoW. RIP
If you aren’t afraid of a challenge and relearning everything you know about how to play a mmo. Try mortal online 2 if you commit to learning it’s so much fun especially if you join a guild that owns property of the map and its resources
It is possible he has mentioned some of these in other videos, I don't know, but there are several smaller games that have come out or are coming out soon, some of which I will list here. I make no promises that any of them are good, or will last, but if you're dying to play a new MMO, there are options. These are all classified as an MMO or what I would consider to be some type of MMO sub-genre by the developers. If you don't think they should be, take that up with someone else. Reign of Guilds, branding itself as a classic MMORPG, just hit early access April 4th. Sky: Children of the Light, a very casual cute puzzle-focused MMO from the creators of Journey, is coming to PC on April 10th. Age of Water (*cough* Water World *cough*) comes to early access April 18th. It also has a demo of sorts called Age Of Water: First Voyage. One of the OG Runescape creators is releasing a point and click MMORPG called Brighter Shores in Q3 of this year. Untamed Isles, Lost Isle, Earth From Another Sun, and WorldShards are all "coming soon" on Steam. Book of Travels, which the developers call a TMORPG ("Tiny"-MORPG), if following their initial release window, should be out by now. Wayfinder, another title out in early access, should also be releasing soon if following their initial release window.
I think the world is waiting to see what the new evolution of MMO looks like. Cause so many of them are still stuck in trying to be WoW and no one wants that anymore
Honestly, this is the denial phase because live service games are the new MMOs, we just refuse to believe it. Warframe, Destiny, The Division, even Fortnite. they all scratch that itch just enough while still being casual enough.
It's far easier to imitate than to innovate. Ironically, WoW itself was really just a fulfillment of much of the promises of the original Everquest (whereas the truly innovative game was actually Star Wars: Galaxies). The problem with MMORPGs is much the same as the issue that has infected Hollywood: investment is dominated by stodgy types who don't want to take risks. And, not really understanding the market (for films or MMORPGs), they invest in what they see as the 'safe bet,' even if, in playing it safe, they are actually directly damaging their chances of hitting it big by spawning a new IP. Somehow, the creative world needs to claw away from this model. I'm just not sure how they're going to do this.
@@princessofthecape2078 the issue is stupid people who think every new game needs to "break the mold" which never ends well. people are a cautious sort and stick to the things they understand and are fearful of anything thats too new and unknown. MMOs need to iterate and change slowly. its proven time and time again, anything thats too out of the ordinary will fail and people fall back into the typical WoW mold at the end of the day. I wish people would stop thinking MMOs are a sprint, instead of a marathon where the path deviates slowly over time.
I feel like this with the gaming industry in general. A lot of games are derivative and just take ideas from existing games with a twist here and there. I know it is unrealistic to expect innovation all the time, but the general idea of an MMO really hasn't changed much. Some Devs started to tackle more non-combat based MMO's but still feel like traditional MMO's with the combat taken out. I guess live service games are kind of what MMO's evolved to. I think the idea of MMO's are no longer novel like they used to.
Just heard about something interesting yesterday. EverCraft . It's basically an EverQuest inspired MMO with Minecraft style visuals. As an old-school MMO player, the idea of a return to the classic form of MMOs like EQ, DAoC, etc, is very appealing.
@@knowitall82 I just remembered that the game I was talking about was called EverQuest Next. It had a emphasis on player building and the world was voxel based and supposedly everything was destructible. But it got cancelled. I played a very early Alpha version where you could only build stufff.
There has been a lot of changes to Tarisland from the last global beta, they’ve made the best in slot gear come from dungeons/raids which can’t be traded or sold. Crafting gear can be sold or bought with gold but not BiS anymore. Basically stepping stone gear which is not a huge deal tbh. Inscriptions stones can only be earned in game and cannot be bought with gold anymore either.
I fell in love with MMOs in my first MMO...EQ. It was amazing. That experience sparked major excitement for the next MMO and what MMOs of the future would be. I participated in the majority of MMO betas going back to DAOC, Horizons (RIP), Anarchy Online, Age of Conan, Vanguard, WoW, ESO and countless others. One thing I have learned in all the betas and then their releases has been that MMOs were not living up to the hype or even just a basic level of expectation. Most of the betas have been a disaster and in almost all cases were a predictive sign of the final product. I think the only MMO that really delivered was WoW. The beta was flawed but good (and fun) and the release was also flawed (but fun) and it improved from there. Most of the others were either unplayable or just awful. Now on top of all that we throw in the F2P/MTX/pay for convenience, loot box garbage and I no longer even get excited for MMOs and have no desire to even play the betas. I already know what they will be like and it's not good. Certainly nothing like I imagined MMOs would be like when I was absolutely amazed in EQ and early WoW. Sad.
@@itatsu1 Yeah I think that is correct but it was so long ago I don't recall how it all went down. I seem to recall the original vision of Horizons never came to be but then it did get a name change in a lesser state or something. I forget the details.
Was literally thinking about something similar before checking the comments. I used to be excited for almost any MMO release back in the day meanwhile now I'm skeptical even when disinterested... Always the same questions, which I even stopped thinking about at this point, being "is it ever even going to release?", "Is it a cash grab?", "Is the company behind it going to listen to feedback and improve the game or drive it into an early grave?" and "Is it going to be a sterile, lifeless bunch of systems put together to look like a game?".
How is Dune Awakening, a game with 1000s of people on a server "maybe not an MMO", but a bunch of looter shooters with no mention of player count, no footage of multiplayer gameplay, and barely any multiplayer features are presented as MMOs without a second thought?
I know it's Nexon but... Mabinogi Eternal is a thing. Despite all the p2w stuff in Mabinogi, that game holds a special place in my soul. Pretty excited to see it's UE5 remake project come to life.
The First Descendant is supposed to be coming out in the next few months but it's more of a lobby based MMO in the vein of Destiny 2. They delayed by 6 months to implement feedback but who knows how it will turn out.
What's crazy is that they're releasing it around the same time as Destiny 2: The Final Shape, the biggest expansion in Destiny history and the conclusion of its decade-long story. Not a great time to release a direct competitor 😅
@@Asian_Import I don't think it's an issue because the most dedicated dropped the expansion money already and they have too much invested to leave. I can see it pulling the people waiting on the fence or who feel burnt by Bungie. There are also people who just can't afford Bungie's bizarre pricing structure.
The problem with games focused on community is that there are more hackers, trolls, griefers, elitists, and otherwise awful people than there are genuinely friendly, helpful, team-focused players in the world. So, games with community/group play in mind always deteriorate because of that imbalance.
For my tastes : Dune, Ashes of Creation, Pax Dei. It is obvious any 2024 release of those three would be a rather early release, half-baked, hopefully more developed than was Conan Exiles for example. Yes, I know Ashes of C. is not aiming for 2024 at all.
Dune devs have said on discord that they are denying early access in 2024 and early access at all.. what is quite likely is an open beta before the year ends though, the game is currently in closed NDA invite only beta testing..
Pax Dei is developed by Finnish company. So if they've stated that Early Access around spring, then month & half to go until turns to summer. Here's to hoping 🤞
With CorePunk I agree, than maybe LoL online 2025/6... and Project LLL could be my Duna ;) ... Throne of Liberty is maybe 100% pvp... so not sure rn. We'll see. :)
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I think Dune will be worse with the survival mechanics and I do agree with you, but I'll try it and hope it doesn't suck because survival mechanics in a mmo are just tedious and annoying
@@MoistYoghurt Well its a survival game at the base, the mmo aspects come into the later game, and server size. its not just a mmo with survival aspects.
It's annoying that Amazon keeps buying up MMO titles and claims to be releasing them under their Amazon game studio, but New World was a failed game, and Throne & Liberty will become a failed game. If Amazon publishes Blue Protocol it will fail, why? Because Amazon is becoming a video game monopoly and destroying MMOs to push their P2W garbage, as we have seen with games such as Destiny 2, the player base will continue to pay money if they can win. Gaming used to be about more than just the money, but now that's all anyone cares about. We gotta stop money-hungry gaming and return to making actually great games.
Sorry Force, you have Tarisland all wrong and are about 5 months behind in news. There is no P2W anymore, all raid loot is BiS and can't be bought. The combat is smooth and fun, sure easier then WoW...but go to the wow forums and all you see is people upset about having to have 10 addon and 40 button bloat. War Within is going to just add more. Tarisland is going to have a big crowd due to mobile and going to be a sleeper....and I don't like anything really about the dev is came from...which is saying something.
I thought Blue Protocol has been long dead and it's not even released yet. Well, it's their own fault by handling the publishing rights to amazon in the first place.
lol some of these MMORPGs have been in your previous every new MMO you can play in *insert year here* for the last few years. I'm pretty sure most if not all of these MMORPGs, do not actually have publicly stated intentions to release this year. Some of them may still, but many of these will still stay in development well into 2025 and beyond.
How have you skipped over Brighter Shores!? It's been in development for the last 10 years by the creator of RuneScape, and is scheduled to release Q3 2024
To be fair, when an MMO is scheduled to launch in 2024, it will probably be in the beta stage by 2029. I remember when Ashes of Creation was scheduled to launch in 2019.
None of these look groundbreaking, just more of the same. If pax dei and Dune pull it off that would be great but one is an unknown studio and the other make Conan exiles, which while fun is STILL filled with bugs and no real story or questing.
I know it's not your style, but I believe Brighter Shores will hit their target of Q3 2024. The game they want to release is pretty small, so I imagine it's already basically ready.
I feel with Throne and Liberty it's important to note that everything you can purchase with the premium currency (aside from cosmetics) you are purchasing from a player who farmed that item. Everything a whale buys from the shop gives premium currency directly to another player, who can then use it (minus the tax to keep the currency valuable). There is no purchasing P2W items directly from a cash shop, so it's a lot easier to stomach the P2W as, technically, multiple people are benefiting from a single person swiping.
@@BigJambu no. Aside from cosmetics still existing and essentially being a currency sink, there are also taxes on every market transaction. The same way every MMO keeps tabs on its economy.
I will have you know 2025 will be absolutely insane but not because of gaming, there will be almost completely human looking animatronics or like robots, for various needs, finally some actual progress on hovering cars and some medical breakthroughs, and yes ofc games, but its all being held back by a year or two due to covid, woke agenda politics, and random wars around the globe. But it was originally predicted to start headway around 25 so hopefully that still happens to some extent.
That's literally the only reason they are making it. Funcom has cool original IPs. Like Anarchy online or dreamfall. But they choose to buy up ips instead. Like Conan or now.. Dune.
@@Fren69420 i dunno if original is the right word to use when describing an IP with the word fall in it... Greedfall Cryofall Irisfall Overfall Dark Fall Light Fall Freedomfall Ardein.Fall Counterfall Moonrise Fall Aefen Fall Glare Fall Crown Fall Sky Fall Star Fall Ground Fall Goldenjar Fall Infinity Fall Godfall Crowfall Ironfall Daggerfall Redfall Planetfall Dreamfall Titanfall Firefall
@@martinmikkelsen-yd8sn Dreamfall came long, long before all the "fall" games you just mentioned. By around 20 years. Also, having fall at the end of the title of your game has nothing to do with the intellectual property contained within the game. Funny thing actually, the borderlands games take much of their background lore from Anarchy Online. You can see all the similarities if you've played AO.
Tarisland DoA Once Human DoA Throne & Liberty DoA Dune Awakening - probably not even an mmo, but still DoA Pax Dei DoA Ashes of Creation DoA Quinfall DoA
I'm not tired of you talking about MMOs, man - it's why I'm subbed to the channel. And I don't think this is really necessarily about you, either. I think most of us are just kind of exhausted with these pie-in-the-sky game models where developers shoot for the veritable moon, and it takes TEN FUCKING YEARS for them *MAYBE* to release a game. I don't think a 5-year development cycle is that big an ask - even if that means a slightly less dynamic product at launch. What I think most of us want are more releases that are a bit tighter in focus, but at least lay the groundwork for exciting expansion and growth moving forward. Too many MMORPGs are far too swept up in this "WE GOTTA HAVE EVERYTHING AT LAUNCH" mindset, and it's killing the genre.
Once Human looks pretty great, I love the inspiration and the style and the genre. The only thing that bugs me is it looks like this is 100% a rifle-shooting experience. Is that right? I personally don't like that style of combat when I'm forced into it as the only option. I still might check out the game, just sad it's like that.
I like the style but I dont think ill play it simply because its mobile compatible. Not because i dont want mobile gamers to have fun, but because mobile compatibility will inevitably ruin the full PC experience - especially for something like an MMO. I understand that the mobile gaming market is much larger and more profitable than PC, and i really resent it.
This is so click baited. Every game you mentioned, your answer was it’s up in the air or unlikely to come out in 2024. New title closest games to releasing with no dates announced yet.
The best gameplay that i've ever experienced in a mmorpg was Blade n Soul. Pvp was hard, exclusive combo skills (can use the next only if certain conditions are met), pve was hard too, a pve where you had to move a lot, it was like you were pvping the boss.
Just to clarify, Tarisland is developed and published by subsiduary companies of Tencent, a company that has consistently failed to any success in the MMO market, but keeps trying. World of Warcraft and Blizzard in China was dealing with Netease, a different company. Netease has been the top MMO company in China for over two decades, including multiple MMOs which are bigger in China than WoW. Which is part of the reason they were okay with losing the deal. I'm pretty confident Tarisland, whilst clearly heavily inspired by WoW, isn't actually in reaction to or related to WoW in any way at all. But the comment abou the floaty combat is on point. It's generic MMO that does nothing wrong, but probably won't do anything good enough to stand out and hold onto players.
It's fun . And u can just make a shit square base like.most of the clowns or go deep. It's gotten way better for pve solo in the beta 3 test and still so.much to come
Soulframe is more suposed to be a solo game with few multi player element like crimson desert, Dune Awakening got its number of player drasticly decreased
Quite simply, Ashes of Creation is the most exciting out of all of these upcoming MMOs. (Hahaha 2077 LAWWWL DUDE) Sick and tired of these P2W, cookie-cutter, disconnected MMO regurgitation that comes out every year. I'll happily wait for AoC to come out, it can take it's time as long as it continues to listen to community feedback, have zero Pay2Win, and stick with it's core innovative ideas to shake up the genre. It's not guaranteed to be good, but it's already continually showcased MASSIVE improvements especially for a game of its scale and scope.
Ya but again I'm looking to talk about games playable soon with this video. We're not getting Alpha 2 until Q3 this year, let alone Beta testing. Ashes is at least 2-3 years from launch.
@@ForceGamingYT Fair enough, that's my bad then. I guess I took "playable" to include Alphas and Betas, not just full releases. Could be even longer than that before Ashes fully releases lol.
@@ForceGamingYT Alphas and Betas are still paid access, yeah. I can see why some people hate that, but it makes sense to me as they as an indie company need funds to continue production on their massive scope, grow their team, etc. As well as it being opt in, people just see that price tag and immediately think it's shady, but it's essentially made for people who want to support the production and believe in the vision. Intrepid Studios have said themselves that if people are opting to purchase in to the Alphas, without the mindset of trying to provide critical feedback or just to mess around, it's better to just wait till Launch, and just have the $15 subscription fee to play.
You should consider giving Monsters & Memories some attention. Now, it probably isn't your speed but I feel strongly is worthy of recognition as a good MMO that is on the horizon.
I'm tired of games requiring guilds to complete end-game content. I want to be able to play something on my own and still get the most powerful stuff without needing others. Not everyone has other people who play the same things they do, and I don't want to have to meet people online just to progress. Just let me play the game at my own pace and actually be able to do all the content.
That's not the reason why it's died. The reason why it's died is because of terrible business models. Guild Wars 2 has been thriving for quite a long time in the initially had a buy to play model. There was absolutely nothing locked behind any Guild. If a game is good enough on its own, people will join guilds they will play with Guild members and they will do activities . There's a difference between locking game content or progression behind PVP that people don't want to do or forced to join a guild that you can't 100% commit to and get kicked out of. Guilds should be an incentive to complete content exclusive to the guild, a way to get extra materials, etcetera. Not a way to be able to do content in general. That's what his point was which you guys totally missed
Magical thing called pugging, you should try it. It's completely unfathomable to actually type in chat or throw up a PF or LFG. It's a crazy concept it just became known in 2024
In my crystal ball i see...you'll encounter your arch nemesis in-game and after TEN YEARS of battling, you learn that the player is your WIFE! And then this will somehow strengthen your marriage and give guidance to your child, most likely some sort of global hero, I wanna say. Okay, are we writing this down, guys? This is gold, someone call Netflix!
I've got an Alpha 2 key for AoC, so I'm excited for that most. Unfortunately you can no longer get A2 keys, so if you don't have one already you're out of luck.
I think people seem to forget that not every game is meant for you and its ok to not play or gatekeep other for playing a game they enjoy when it doesnt affect your life one bit
the dune game looks pretty great, wasnt really a fan of conan exiles but this looks more like a more finished polished version of what that type of game should be
Throne and liberty really seems strange. For a seemingly P2W title the fact you can sell items on the auction house for that P2W currency is pretty cool actually but its a shame that the currency is there in the first place. Hopefully the gear grind doesn't become borderline impossible after a certain amount of time spent.
Any time he talks about MMO quests, NPCs, and such, what he's actually talking about are RPG quests, NPCs, and such. MMOs, are not a genre, it's just a description that means the game is provided as an online service, and allows for a "large" number of people to play together at once. This also means a lot of the games people, and companies try to call "MMOs," aren't MMOs, they're just multiplayer online games. It should also be noted that MMO is a term Japanese companies try to avoid like the plague, as they don't tend to be received well by many Japanese players. This includes Blue Protocol, a game developed in Japan, that the developer does not label as a MMO.
PaxDei is the one I'm most excited about. Seems more unique than the others. Also looks gorgeous. But honestly, I just wish old MMO's would remake them in UR5. EQ, City of Heroes, DaoC are all superb MMO's just suffering of old tech.
Age of Water is just World of Warships but slight post-apoc themes and less war game mechanics. It doesn't look like it's going to be a bad game if you like it... but it's insanely niche and will probably die very quickly because of that. I don't know many gamers who want to just BE a boat basically.
I'm basically tuned out of MMOs until Ashes of Creation comes out, and even that game still looks super rough. The MMO landscape is in a weird spot... We all know that a good MMO can take close to a decade to develop, and all the big studios are right in the middle of that development timeframe right now. In the meantime we're getting a bunch of low-budget cash grabs that either completely fail or hold our attention for a month or two. It looks bleak right now, but I think by 2026 we'll start to see the light again. Hold strong my fellow MMO enjoyers.
I'm most excited for Corepunk, but I'm certainly skeptical. Other than that I'm really looking forward to Monsters & Memories which just recently announced their beta and release date, but we'll need to wait until early 2026 to try it out. Their progress has been incredible to watch. For a small team they're very passionate, committed, humble and hard working and have really earned trust by being very transparent with their development. I also fully agree with their philosophy of making a smaller niche game, building an audience and expanding upon it, rather than trying to build a massive game that caters to everyone. I think the Helldivers 2 studio said it best "A game for everyone is a game for noone."
I really would love for a studio to remake Anthem and make it better. It has so much potential. It was fun to play for a hot minute. But I still think it has potential.
Have to wonder why make an MMO these days. This is a tough market. The hardcore MMO player has his universe of choice. Sure some folks will try the new game, but what's the percentage of MMOs that actually last 5 years? I'd like to try Dune. That would be cool imo.
Thanks for the heads up on the new MMOs. Sad to say none of them really look all that appealing. The game I am rooting for the most this year is No Rest For The Wicked. You also gave me the heads up on that one.
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The state of mmos is heartbreaking
That's facts
so bad
I would never buy a game from China, which is the most evil regime to exist in the history of man kind. China has killed more people than Hitler and Stalin combined, and they are still killing.
the state of gaming in general is heart breaking tbh
@@a2daj83 what do you mean? There are so many good games to play.
I dont understand how people still believe Eastern Devs when they claim their game wont be P2W like obviously its gonna be monetized like crazy
Outside of ffxiv debatably, all mmorpgs have some kind of P2W . It's basically the standard at this point.
Asian MMOs can look good, but gameplay wise they are trash not worth investing time in.
Monetized like crazy ≠ P2W.... I thought that'd be an obvious thing, but I guess not....
@@ATLsF1N3ST91 as practice shows, it is the same
@@ATLsF1N3ST91 are there any Eastern MOMs that don't have really annoying p2w elements? other than FF?
Games without any prebuilt towns or NPCs really concern me. Players are a great way to enhance a game world, but it just doens't work when they have to build the entire world.
That's interesting many complain repetitive towns with ai generation.
Fallout 76 vibes 😖
It’s really difficult to coordinate large groups of people
Star Wars Galaxies did a great job with player cities/housing. Then WoW came out and rather than stay the course they completely 180*d their game and pissed off the remaining players who didn't leave for WoW. RIP
@@maofria1452fallout 76 has NPCs lol
I am convinced there will never be another quality and traditional MMO that is not P2W.
If you aren’t afraid of a challenge and relearning everything you know about how to play a mmo. Try mortal online 2 if you commit to learning it’s so much fun especially if you join a guild that owns property of the map and its resources
@@CS-kj8nx It does look good but not traditional in any sense.
New world
It is possible he has mentioned some of these in other videos, I don't know, but there are several smaller games that have come out or are coming out soon, some of which I will list here. I make no promises that any of them are good, or will last, but if you're dying to play a new MMO, there are options. These are all classified as an MMO or what I would consider to be some type of MMO sub-genre by the developers. If you don't think they should be, take that up with someone else.
Reign of Guilds, branding itself as a classic MMORPG, just hit early access April 4th.
Sky: Children of the Light, a very casual cute puzzle-focused MMO from the creators of Journey, is coming to PC on April 10th.
Age of Water (*cough* Water World *cough*) comes to early access April 18th. It also has a demo of sorts called Age Of Water: First Voyage.
One of the OG Runescape creators is releasing a point and click MMORPG called Brighter Shores in Q3 of this year.
Untamed Isles, Lost Isle, Earth From Another Sun, and WorldShards are all "coming soon" on Steam.
Book of Travels, which the developers call a TMORPG ("Tiny"-MORPG), if following their initial release window, should be out by now.
Wayfinder, another title out in early access, should also be releasing soon if following their initial release window.
I don't think you know what an MMO is.
@@whanethewhip talk to the developers then.
@@TheLamppost444 That won't repair YOUR ignorance.
Brighter Shores also coming on 2024, hopefully!
I think the world is waiting to see what the new evolution of MMO looks like. Cause so many of them are still stuck in trying to be WoW and no one wants that anymore
Honestly, this is the denial phase because live service games are the new MMOs, we just refuse to believe it. Warframe, Destiny, The Division, even Fortnite. they all scratch that itch just enough while still being casual enough.
It's far easier to imitate than to innovate. Ironically, WoW itself was really just a fulfillment of much of the promises of the original Everquest (whereas the truly innovative game was actually Star Wars: Galaxies).
The problem with MMORPGs is much the same as the issue that has infected Hollywood: investment is dominated by stodgy types who don't want to take risks. And, not really understanding the market (for films or MMORPGs), they invest in what they see as the 'safe bet,' even if, in playing it safe, they are actually directly damaging their chances of hitting it big by spawning a new IP.
Somehow, the creative world needs to claw away from this model. I'm just not sure how they're going to do this.
@@princessofthecape2078 the issue is stupid people who think every new game needs to "break the mold" which never ends well. people are a cautious sort and stick to the things they understand and are fearful of anything thats too new and unknown. MMOs need to iterate and change slowly. its proven time and time again, anything thats too out of the ordinary will fail and people fall back into the typical WoW mold at the end of the day.
I wish people would stop thinking MMOs are a sprint, instead of a marathon where the path deviates slowly over time.
exactly. WoW cant be copied tbh. Do something new, or go home.
I feel like this with the gaming industry in general. A lot of games are derivative and just take ideas from existing games with a twist here and there. I know it is unrealistic to expect innovation all the time, but the general idea of an MMO really hasn't changed much. Some Devs started to tackle more non-combat based MMO's but still feel like traditional MMO's with the combat taken out. I guess live service games are kind of what MMO's evolved to. I think the idea of MMO's are no longer novel like they used to.
Just heard about something interesting yesterday. EverCraft . It's basically an EverQuest inspired MMO with Minecraft style visuals. As an old-school MMO player, the idea of a return to the classic form of MMOs like EQ, DAoC, etc, is very appealing.
Thanks for letting me know about this, seems promising
Didn't they already try this about 10 years ago? I think it was EverQuest but voxel Minecraft mechanics but it got cancelled before it released.
@@Gnomesmusher Possibly. I'm not sure. As far as I'm aware EverCraft is a brand new project in very early alpha.
DAoC Could of upgraded the engine bought it back alive was good game.
@@knowitall82 I just remembered that the game I was talking about was called EverQuest Next. It had a emphasis on player building and the world was voxel based and supposedly everything was destructible. But it got cancelled. I played a very early Alpha version where you could only build stufff.
There has been a lot of changes to Tarisland from the last global beta, they’ve made the best in slot gear come from dungeons/raids which can’t be traded or sold. Crafting gear can be sold or bought with gold but not BiS anymore. Basically stepping stone gear which is not a huge deal tbh. Inscriptions stones can only be earned in game and cannot be bought with gold anymore either.
I fell in love with MMOs in my first MMO...EQ. It was amazing. That experience sparked major excitement for the next MMO and what MMOs of the future would be. I participated in the majority of MMO betas going back to DAOC, Horizons (RIP), Anarchy Online, Age of Conan, Vanguard, WoW, ESO and countless others. One thing I have learned in all the betas and then their releases has been that MMOs were not living up to the hype or even just a basic level of expectation. Most of the betas have been a disaster and in almost all cases were a predictive sign of the final product. I think the only MMO that really delivered was WoW. The beta was flawed but good (and fun) and the release was also flawed (but fun) and it improved from there. Most of the others were either unplayable or just awful. Now on top of all that we throw in the F2P/MTX/pay for convenience, loot box garbage and I no longer even get excited for MMOs and have no desire to even play the betas. I already know what they will be like and it's not good. Certainly nothing like I imagined MMOs would be like when I was absolutely amazed in EQ and early WoW. Sad.
isn't horizons just Istaria now?
@@itatsu1 Yeah I think that is correct but it was so long ago I don't recall how it all went down. I seem to recall the original vision of Horizons never came to be but then it did get a name change in a lesser state or something. I forget the details.
Was literally thinking about something similar before checking the comments. I used to be excited for almost any MMO release back in the day meanwhile now I'm skeptical even when disinterested... Always the same questions, which I even stopped thinking about at this point, being "is it ever even going to release?", "Is it a cash grab?", "Is the company behind it going to listen to feedback and improve the game or drive it into an early grave?" and "Is it going to be a sterile, lifeless bunch of systems put together to look like a game?".
Most stoked for Dune MMO.
I don't trust it
So many survival games out there already.
I’m also most stoked for dune but I will say it kinda looks exactly the same as Conan
@nickb5635 becausr it's made by funcom and most likely using 90% of the mechanics from conan. Old motto. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
@doomslayerforever2858 why? Funcom is reliable. They did fine with conan exiles.
How is Dune Awakening, a game with 1000s of people on a server "maybe not an MMO", but a bunch of looter shooters with no mention of player count, no footage of multiplayer gameplay, and barely any multiplayer features are presented as MMOs without a second thought?
He is excited by Throne and liberty, what do you expect?
All games he is sponsored to say this B's@@IgnizNova
I know it's Nexon but... Mabinogi Eternal is a thing. Despite all the p2w stuff in Mabinogi, that game holds a special place in my soul. Pretty excited to see it's UE5 remake project come to life.
The First Descendant is supposed to be coming out in the next few months but it's more of a lobby based MMO in the vein of Destiny 2. They delayed by 6 months to implement feedback but who knows how it will turn out.
Based on the developer/publisher, it will likely contain some form of P2W.
Looking forward to this one, i played the beta.
What's crazy is that they're releasing it around the same time as Destiny 2: The Final Shape, the biggest expansion in Destiny history and the conclusion of its decade-long story. Not a great time to release a direct competitor 😅
@@Asian_Import I don't think it's an issue because the most dedicated dropped the expansion money already and they have too much invested to leave. I can see it pulling the people waiting on the fence or who feel burnt by Bungie. There are also people who just can't afford Bungie's bizarre pricing structure.
The problem with games focused on community is that there are more hackers, trolls, griefers, elitists, and otherwise awful people than there are genuinely friendly, helpful, team-focused players in the world. So, games with community/group play in mind always deteriorate because of that imbalance.
Got into the closed beta for PC on Throne & Liberty starts April 10th.
When is full release though?
For my tastes : Dune, Ashes of Creation, Pax Dei. It is obvious any 2024 release of those three would be a rather early release, half-baked, hopefully more developed than was Conan Exiles for example. Yes, I know Ashes of C. is not aiming for 2024 at all.
Dune devs have said on discord that they are denying early access in 2024 and early access at all.. what is quite likely is an open beta before the year ends though, the game is currently in closed NDA invite only beta testing..
Pax Dei is developed by Finnish company. So if they've stated that Early Access around spring, then month & half to go until turns to summer. Here's to hoping 🤞
Dune, Corepunk, and Ashes of Creation
With CorePunk I agree, than maybe LoL online 2025/6... and Project LLL could be my Duna ;) ... Throne of Liberty is maybe 100% pvp... so not sure rn. We'll see. :)
Dune looks like by far the best thing on this list.
Exactly! Once Human, the supernatural multiplayer open-world survival game, Close Beta Test 3 has begun! Thanks for the attention of Force Gaming! We wish to see your exploration in the Once Human world！
Thanks for the video! I think "The First Descendant" should also make the list since "Once Human" and "Project LLL" are included.
Their using a phone but can't communicate, sums up modern society.
what about the First Descendant? is that still happening?
6:05 "You are thirsty"
Oh no, thats giving me survival game flashbacks. Makes me even less likely to play this game.
I think Dune will be worse with the survival mechanics and I do agree with you, but I'll try it and hope it doesn't suck because survival mechanics in a mmo are just tedious and annoying
Not every game is for everyone I’m sure they’ll be just fine without you playing it 😂
@@MoistYoghurt Well its a survival game at the base, the mmo aspects come into the later game, and server size. its not just a mmo with survival aspects.
@csahaas as I see it it's literally a mmo with survival mechanics because I feel a single player game with survival mechanics plays FAR better
@@MoistYoghurt the creative director of the game disagrees with you
Soulframe is currently doing testing right now. You can get into the Preludes right now if you luck out.
It's annoying that Amazon keeps buying up MMO titles and claims to be releasing them under their Amazon game studio, but New World was a failed game, and Throne & Liberty will become a failed game. If Amazon publishes Blue Protocol it will fail, why? Because Amazon is becoming a video game monopoly and destroying MMOs to push their P2W garbage, as we have seen with games such as Destiny 2, the player base will continue to pay money if they can win. Gaming used to be about more than just the money, but now that's all anyone cares about. We gotta stop money-hungry gaming and return to making actually great games.
Sorry Force, you have Tarisland all wrong and are about 5 months behind in news. There is no P2W anymore, all raid loot is BiS and can't be bought. The combat is smooth and fun, sure easier then WoW...but go to the wow forums and all you see is people upset about having to have 10 addon and 40 button bloat. War Within is going to just add more.
Tarisland is going to have a big crowd due to mobile and going to be a sleeper....and I don't like anything really about the dev is came from...which is saying something.
I thought Blue Protocol has been long dead and it's not even released yet. Well, it's their own fault by handling the publishing rights to amazon in the first place.
Is bad, already played on jp servers😢
Tarisland question: Is the pvp standardized? Does everybody have the same gear or does gear matter
@@Nace_Gw2 all same gear epic gem also free its more like Costume game so far i dont see any P2W just for now
lol some of these MMORPGs have been in your previous every new MMO you can play in *insert year here* for the last few years. I'm pretty sure most if not all of these MMORPGs, do not actually have publicly stated intentions to release this year. Some of them may still, but many of these will still stay in development well into 2025 and beyond.
How have you skipped over Brighter Shores!?
It's been in development for the last 10 years by the creator of RuneScape, and is scheduled to release Q3 2024
Congrats on 1mil, brother. Great video, as always!
Cheers.
"Once Human" is so fking incredible idea holy shet that should be game of the year
Very surprised Brighter Shores wasn't mentioned here, given the popularity of runescape and likelihood it will release this year
yes! i was expecting this as well, crazy he didn't mention it specially with no MTX mmo
Rather cover Tarisland a literal piece of shit mobile p2w lazy game with races that are gender and class locked
Same for new League of Legends MMO,... but yeah it's maybe 2025,6
To be fair, when an MMO is scheduled to launch in 2024, it will probably be in the beta stage by 2029. I remember when Ashes of Creation was scheduled to launch in 2019.
Hyped about Dune Awakening & Pax Dei. Once Human may be cool too.
Yeah I'm interested in the same games.
Pax Dei is a scam.
@@SleepySatellite It's a joke for sure. I got into the Alpha 2 after my comment here and man the game was in bad shape then.
Pax dei sucks
Refunded it last night
Barely runs
Didn't see any other players
Once human
Although is very good
They will have wipes every six weeks. Found that out after wasting a week playing. No thanks
None of these look groundbreaking, just more of the same. If pax dei and Dune pull it off that would be great but one is an unknown studio and the other make Conan exiles, which while fun is STILL filled with bugs and no real story or questing.
Once Human is THE cosmic horror game I've been wanting to play.
I absolutely love it.
I know it's not your style, but I believe Brighter Shores will hit their target of Q3 2024. The game they want to release is pretty small, so I imagine it's already basically ready.
I feel with Throne and Liberty it's important to note that everything you can purchase with the premium currency (aside from cosmetics) you are purchasing from a player who farmed that item. Everything a whale buys from the shop gives premium currency directly to another player, who can then use it (minus the tax to keep the currency valuable). There is no purchasing P2W items directly from a cash shop, so it's a lot easier to stomach the P2W as, technically, multiple people are benefiting from a single person swiping.
Won't that mean a massively inflated economy though? That'll have it's own problems
@@BigJambu no. Aside from cosmetics still existing and essentially being a currency sink, there are also taxes on every market transaction. The same way every MMO keeps tabs on its economy.
I’m in on Dune man. I love Conan Exiles.
2025 gonna be crazy
You say this for 10 years now....
copium bro
crazy for what? Ancient MMOs that flop?
2025 Idc about mmos anymore. I'm playing GTA. Every other game will get dropped.
I will have you know 2025 will be absolutely insane but not because of gaming, there will be almost completely human looking animatronics or like robots, for various needs, finally some actual progress on hovering cars and some medical breakthroughs, and yes ofc games, but its all being held back by a year or two due to covid, woke agenda politics, and random wars around the globe. But it was originally predicted to start headway around 25 so hopefully that still happens to some extent.
I'm loving the white beard hairs! exuding wisdom, gratz on 1M!
I really dig how Dune Awakening takes a lot of visual inspiration from the recent films.
That's literally the only reason they are making it. Funcom has cool original IPs. Like Anarchy online or dreamfall. But they choose to buy up ips instead. Like Conan or now.. Dune.
@@Fren69420 i dunno if original is the right word to use when describing an IP with the word fall in it...
Greedfall
Cryofall
Irisfall
Overfall
Dark Fall
Light Fall
Freedomfall
Ardein.Fall
Counterfall
Moonrise Fall
Aefen Fall
Glare Fall
Crown Fall
Sky Fall
Star Fall
Ground Fall
Goldenjar Fall
Infinity Fall
Godfall
Crowfall
Ironfall
Daggerfall
Redfall
Planetfall
Dreamfall
Titanfall
Firefall
@@martinmikkelsen-yd8sn Dreamfall came long, long before all the "fall" games you just mentioned. By around 20 years. Also, having fall at the end of the title of your game has nothing to do with the intellectual property contained within the game.
Funny thing actually, the borderlands games take much of their background lore from Anarchy Online. You can see all the similarities if you've played AO.
I like that they use visuals from the book and the movie
Tarisland DoA
Once Human DoA
Throne & Liberty DoA
Dune Awakening - probably not even an mmo, but still DoA
Pax Dei DoA
Ashes of Creation DoA
Quinfall DoA
I'm not tired of you talking about MMOs, man - it's why I'm subbed to the channel. And I don't think this is really necessarily about you, either. I think most of us are just kind of exhausted with these pie-in-the-sky game models where developers shoot for the veritable moon, and it takes TEN FUCKING YEARS for them *MAYBE* to release a game.
I don't think a 5-year development cycle is that big an ask - even if that means a slightly less dynamic product at launch. What I think most of us want are more releases that are a bit tighter in focus, but at least lay the groundwork for exciting expansion and growth moving forward. Too many MMORPGs are far too swept up in this "WE GOTTA HAVE EVERYTHING AT LAUNCH" mindset, and it's killing the genre.
I couldn't agree with this more.
No mention of 2024 releases such as: The First Descendants, Kindred Fates, Perfect New World, Fera:The Sundered Tribes?
Dune Awakening and Pax Dei give me hope.
I find aurcus online pretty relaxing and the player base is growing at a healthy rate.
Once Human looks pretty great, I love the inspiration and the style and the genre. The only thing that bugs me is it looks like this is 100% a rifle-shooting experience. Is that right? I personally don't like that style of combat when I'm forced into it as the only option. I still might check out the game, just sad it's like that.
anyone else leave as soon as he said "The only one on the list with a date"? lol
You didn't mention Reign of Guilds. New early access. Its actually really good Sandbox style MMO.
Dune and throne of liberty are the games I'm excited for.
This is why i keep going back to Baldurs 3, GW2 etc.
tarisland was supposed to be mobile WOW, but they quickly (or planned it) converted it to a new MMO thats still plays like WOW-ish.
I like the style but I dont think ill play it simply because its mobile compatible. Not because i dont want mobile gamers to have fun, but because mobile compatibility will inevitably ruin the full PC experience - especially for something like an MMO. I understand that the mobile gaming market is much larger and more profitable than PC, and i really resent it.
Eastern MMO saying there's no P2W mechanics will be the end of the world when it happens.
Can't believe people still play pay to win these days 😂😂
Can't believe you're still too poor to spend a few bucks to catch up to the nolifers and to recover the time lost by actually having a life 😂
You forgot Brighter Shores from Andrew Gower the Runescape developer.
This is so click baited. Every game you mentioned, your answer was it’s up in the air or unlikely to come out in 2024. New title closest games to releasing with no dates announced yet.
I'm sorry this is happening to you, thoughts and prayers 😢
so did you get into the Closed beta for Throne?
it's possible he was, those part of the cbt are under a nda
Soulframe, Dune: Awakening are games im really hyped about it. I have my doubts about Throne and Liberty, but might jump in regardless.
The best gameplay that i've ever experienced in a mmorpg was Blade n Soul. Pvp was hard, exclusive combo skills (can use the next only if certain conditions are met), pve was hard too, a pve where you had to move a lot, it was like you were pvping the boss.
Not sure why anyone would support these p2w games
cus the alternative is to support even more p2w games (world of warcraft) or pve only games (gw2, ff14)
@@Zulgen123how tf is WoW p2w idiot?
MMOs are coming out this year?
Just to clarify, Tarisland is developed and published by subsiduary companies of Tencent, a company that has consistently failed to any success in the MMO market, but keeps trying.
World of Warcraft and Blizzard in China was dealing with Netease, a different company. Netease has been the top MMO company in China for over two decades, including multiple MMOs which are bigger in China than WoW. Which is part of the reason they were okay with losing the deal.
I'm pretty confident Tarisland, whilst clearly heavily inspired by WoW, isn't actually in reaction to or related to WoW in any way at all.
But the comment abou the floaty combat is on point. It's generic MMO that does nothing wrong, but probably won't do anything good enough to stand out and hold onto players.
Blue Protocol in VR would look so nice...
Once human sounded interesting until he mentions survival elements and base building 😑
It’s basically the division meets rust, kinda sick if u like those games
It's fun . And u can just make a shit square base like.most of the clowns or go deep. It's gotten way better for pve solo in the beta 3 test and still so.much to come
??? how come you dont like survival and base building lol
What i dont like are puzzles, im stupid as f. :P
@@csahaasother people
Soulframe is more suposed to be a solo game with few multi player element like crimson desert, Dune Awakening got its number of player drasticly decreased
Quite simply, Ashes of Creation is the most exciting out of all of these upcoming MMOs. (Hahaha 2077 LAWWWL DUDE)
Sick and tired of these P2W, cookie-cutter, disconnected MMO regurgitation that comes out every year. I'll happily wait for AoC to come out, it can take it's time as long as it continues to listen to community feedback, have zero Pay2Win, and stick with it's core innovative ideas to shake up the genre.
It's not guaranteed to be good, but it's already continually showcased MASSIVE improvements especially for a game of its scale and scope.
Ya but again I'm looking to talk about games playable soon with this video. We're not getting Alpha 2 until Q3 this year, let alone Beta testing. Ashes is at least 2-3 years from launch.
@@ForceGamingYT Fair enough, that's my bad then. I guess I took "playable" to include Alphas and Betas, not just full releases. Could be even longer than that before Ashes fully releases lol.
@@FearHype They locking next Alpha behind $200+ packages again? Or is Alpha 2 going to be more open?
@@ForceGamingYT Alphas and Betas are still paid access, yeah. I can see why some people hate that, but it makes sense to me as they as an indie company need funds to continue production on their massive scope, grow their team, etc. As well as it being opt in, people just see that price tag and immediately think it's shady, but it's essentially made for people who want to support the production and believe in the vision.
Intrepid Studios have said themselves that if people are opting to purchase in to the Alphas, without the mindset of trying to provide critical feedback or just to mess around, it's better to just wait till Launch, and just have the $15 subscription fee to play.
For guaranteed access yes. They will be doing key giveaways though. Content creators with large audiences will probably be more likely to get a key.
You should consider giving Monsters & Memories some attention. Now, it probably isn't your speed but I feel strongly is worthy of recognition as a good MMO that is on the horizon.
I'm tired of games requiring guilds to complete end-game content. I want to be able to play something on my own and still get the most powerful stuff without needing others. Not everyone has other people who play the same things they do, and I don't want to have to meet people online just to progress. Just let me play the game at my own pace and actually be able to do all the content.
So..dont play MMO's? It's like saying :" i dont want to shoot" in Call of Duty...
This comment right here is why mmos died or became the same
That's not the reason why it's died. The reason why it's died is because of terrible business models. Guild Wars 2 has been thriving for quite a long time in the initially had a buy to play model. There was absolutely nothing locked behind any Guild. If a game is good enough on its own, people will join guilds they will play with Guild members and they will do activities . There's a difference between locking game content or progression behind PVP that people don't want to do or forced to join a guild that you can't 100% commit to and get kicked out of. Guilds should be an incentive to complete content exclusive to the guild, a way to get extra materials, etcetera. Not a way to be able to do content in general. That's what his point was which you guys totally missed
Magical thing called pugging, you should try it. It's completely unfathomable to actually type in chat or throw up a PF or LFG. It's a crazy concept it just became known in 2024
Age of Water is meant to be out on the 18th and now is pushed out to the 25th. And meant to come out this year.
Do we have any updates on light no fire?
Sick! I can use a new game so I can ignore my wife and miss the childhood of my children, let's go!
That’s the plan
In my crystal ball i see...you'll encounter your arch nemesis in-game and after TEN YEARS of battling, you learn that the player is your WIFE! And then this will somehow strengthen your marriage and give guidance to your child, most likely some sort of global hero, I wanna say. Okay, are we writing this down, guys? This is gold, someone call Netflix!
I've got an Alpha 2 key for AoC, so I'm excited for that most. Unfortunately you can no longer get A2 keys, so if you don't have one already you're out of luck.
I legit don't get the hype behind Once Human.
Tried the beta and it's trying to be too many things at once to possibly succeed.
I think people seem to forget that not every game is meant for you and its ok to not play or gatekeep other for playing a game they enjoy when it doesnt affect your life one bit
the dune game looks pretty great, wasnt really a fan of conan exiles but this looks more like a more finished polished version of what that type of game should be
from what i understand tarisland is actually not p2w cuz best gear is locked behind play from what i saw crafting gear was nerfed
Throne and liberty really seems strange. For a seemingly P2W title the fact you can sell items on the auction house for that P2W currency is pretty cool actually but its a shame that the currency is there in the first place. Hopefully the gear grind doesn't become borderline impossible after a certain amount of time spent.
If throne or liberty new server is count as new release, does albion online europe server release count the same too?
Any time he talks about MMO quests, NPCs, and such, what he's actually talking about are RPG quests, NPCs, and such.
MMOs, are not a genre, it's just a description that means the game is provided as an online service, and allows for a "large" number of people to play together at once. This also means a lot of the games people, and companies try to call "MMOs," aren't MMOs, they're just multiplayer online games.
It should also be noted that MMO is a term Japanese companies try to avoid like the plague, as they don't tend to be received well by many Japanese players. This includes Blue Protocol, a game developed in Japan, that the developer does not label as a MMO.
that taris land is actually wow with a bit of minor changes
it's more like if a generic browser based mmo called Mmo Land was created for a school project
PaxDei is the one I'm most excited about. Seems more unique than the others. Also looks gorgeous. But honestly, I just wish old MMO's would remake them in UR5. EQ, City of Heroes, DaoC are all superb MMO's just suffering of old tech.
Why'd you say the Throne and Liberty test starts on the 14th when the text you linked shows the 10th. I'm in the test and it's the 10th for us.
Great video! What about Blade and Soul Neo?
Ashes of Creation, and Star Citizen deserve the support. Particularly Star Citizen is at the forefront of gaming and will set the standard for decades
Still no mention of - Age of Water? A Water World MMO releasing in 8 days on steam?
Age of Water is just World of Warships but slight post-apoc themes and less war game mechanics.
It doesn't look like it's going to be a bad game if you like it... but it's insanely niche and will probably die very quickly because of that. I don't know many gamers who want to just BE a boat basically.
I'm basically tuned out of MMOs until Ashes of Creation comes out, and even that game still looks super rough. The MMO landscape is in a weird spot... We all know that a good MMO can take close to a decade to develop, and all the big studios are right in the middle of that development timeframe right now. In the meantime we're getting a bunch of low-budget cash grabs that either completely fail or hold our attention for a month or two. It looks bleak right now, but I think by 2026 we'll start to see the light again. Hold strong my fellow MMO enjoyers.
Corepunk has just today pushed back the next test by a month. Just so you know. Corepunk is unlikely to come out this year. Sadly. Very sadly
I'm most excited for Corepunk, but I'm certainly skeptical. Other than that I'm really looking forward to Monsters & Memories which just recently announced their beta and release date, but we'll need to wait until early 2026 to try it out. Their progress has been incredible to watch. For a small team they're very passionate, committed, humble and hard working and have really earned trust by being very transparent with their development. I also fully agree with their philosophy of making a smaller niche game, building an audience and expanding upon it, rather than trying to build a massive game that caters to everyone. I think the Helldivers 2 studio said it best "A game for everyone is a game for noone."
19:50 You gotta love when the AI thinks the best course of action is to jump in front of their cover to then slowly start aiming at you.
All I want is another solid MMO and it doesn't look like that's happening any time soon.
I really would love for a studio to remake Anthem and make it better. It has so much potential. It was fun to play for a hot minute. But I still think it has potential.
the last time there was to be a "player driven game with no NPCs" that I remember was Fallout 76... and we all know how that went.
Have to wonder why make an MMO these days. This is a tough market. The hardcore MMO player has his universe of choice. Sure some folks will try the new game, but what's the percentage of MMOs that actually last 5 years? I'd like to try Dune. That would be cool imo.
Thanks for the heads up on the new MMOs. Sad to say none of them really look all that appealing.
The game I am rooting for the most this year is No Rest For The Wicked. You also gave me the heads up on that one.
I love the art style of Corepunk. Also looking forward to Dune. Plan to play the beta of T&L.
MO2 UE5 Relaunch just happened, way to miss it.