What Prosperity Preachers Hide From You
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2024
- We do not lose heart, but though our outer man is decaying, yet our inner man is being renewed day by day. For momentary, light affliction is producing for us an eternal weight of glory far beyond all comparison, while we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen; for the things which are seen are temporal, but the things which are not seen are eternal.
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I have severe disabilities-spinal damage,heart blockage,COPD,lung tumor(just learned) I was a smoker, drug addict, adulterer, liar and more. I asked God to come into my heart 3 years ago. If I wouldn’t have gotten so sick I would have never taken time to study and pray everyday. I see my illness as a blessing. That’s what it took for me to change my ways. One day all my pain will be gone.
I’m so glad you got saved and that you are growing through your pain. God is faithful.
Constant pain? I've heard this can be healed by Jesus
Wow this word is for you. I will pray that the Lord will strengthen you and your spirit man will bloom. Know always this earthly suffering is making you closer to Jesus. I pray for grace for you.
Thank God for His mercy - keep looking to Him.
Glad you found Jesus, but that sickness is not from God. He is a good father, has no joy in your suffering
I will likely never meet you in person on this side of Eternity, Mike, since I live in Australia. Yet in my heart you are a true brother because of Jesus. You are also the kind of friend I would choose if I had the privilege.
Thank you and God bless you always 😊
Same here!
I grew up with the "health and wealth gospel" that promised me that if I followed God he would bless me and keep me safe. This was destroyed when I served God whole-heartedly and yet he took my oldest son in a stillbirth three years ago, and then my twin boys in preterm labor- miracle twins who were due on the same day I lost my son. My faith took the darkest turn in the deepest grief and for months I struggled to even LIKE God, let alone love him.Over a long time of darkness, God revealed to me that he didn't hate me- if he did, he never would have died for me, and after I internalized God's love demonstrated on the cross, the deconstruction of my faith started to turn into reconstruction. I can't believe I can say this now, it's been almost two years, but praise God that even in my worst moments of rage at God He never gave up on me, and is using those horrible situations to continue to purify my faith. I think God will let something physical die to awaken something spiritual because he is Spirit and his priorities are spiritual, unlike us physical human beings. As the to health and wealth gospel, I see this taught in every circle of the American church, wether liberal or conservative, and when I see it, I oppose it so fiercely because I know how it sets up people to get angry at God for not fulfilling promises He never made, but that ignorant pastors and American Christian media made for him. If we want to follow Jesus, we have to take up our cross and keep our eyes on eternity. One day I will see my three precious boys again.
Amen. This is beautiful
Such a sad but ultimately beautiful story, thank you for sharing. I didn't go through anything half as heartbreaking as you, but I also had a period of my life where everything went wrong and it caused me to reject God's love. The teaching that He somehow guarantees us a painless life can really be damaging. How thankful I am that He continued to pursue me.
I hope you are doing well.
Amen✝️❤️🙏
How beautifully spoken. Your testimony, of very painful events in your life and of where you are now, is Holy Spirit given. I have a similar testimony. He’s with us through the storms of this life, even when it doesn’t “feel” like it.🙏 God bless you sister.🫶
❤❤❤❤ Yes you definitely will.
Prosperity Preachers have Bastardized the ideals of Christianity in my home country of Nigeria. It’s something else.
Prosperity teachers and moslem persecution. May God have mercy on Nigeria
Not just Nigeria the whole of Africa
That's so tragic. But the Lord will always have a few people who don't compromise. Here in Sweden its either liberal theology and political correctness - or, it is prosperity teaching, false prophets, and false signs and wonders.
Many Christians have had to leave bad churches.
May God have mercy on both our nations.
Romans 5:3-4 ESV - Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope,
i have suffered much, narcisistic cheat of a mother. abusive spouce, adhd, poverty sickness and an abusive child. all it has done is strengthen the faith i've been given
May the Lord strengthen you.for the days ahead, Sister. We may be tested this way, so that we can strengthen others, in their time of testing.
Praying for the body of Christ. 🙏🏻🐟🙌🏻🙏🏻🙌🏻
I can't thank you enough for the gift that you bring through your videos. I grew up in a Pentecostal church, heavily framed by Evangelical and Prosperity Gospel teaching. I have struggled my entire life to reconcile what I was taught about God and therefore believed about Him and His character, with my lived experience and what I understood the Bible to say as I read it. Why didn't I receive the things I spoke and believed for...I must not have enough faith and that is blocking the blessing of God. Why didn't the person I prayed for get healed...I must have a hidden sin in my heart that is hindering the Spirit of God. Why are all of these unexpected expenses coming at once...it must be because I skipped tithing the mandatory 10% last week to pay one of those bills. Your teachings and wisdom have been indescribably encouraging!!!
I don’t know why you would care to speak “evangelical” in the same breath as “prosperity” they are diametrically opposed
@@airkami this is true. Every believer is called to be an evangelist.
@@airkami I don’t know why you would care to criticize a random stranger’s post who was simply trying to thank someone. But here we are. And to be clear, I said that my experience was influenced by those two things. I said nothing about out how similar they are or aren’t.
@@kbutcher84 Just a suggestion, anytime you feel attacked, probably the best response is to ignore it. Assume its a misunderstanding. If you feel you want to respond keep your response neutral, only clarify. ALso don't forget some people like to get others upset. don't let that happen to you. As a Christian we should try to strive in peace with all men, even when our emotions say otherwise.
@@benjaminwatt2436 The intent of my response was to be neutral. I understand tone is virtually impossible to convey clearly through text. To be clear, I don’t feel attacked. Nor was I upset. But I do believe my response was necessary.
But you may be entirely correct. And I do appreciate your perspective and your point. And I’m sure you are probably also correct that this is all a misunderstanding and everyone has the best of intentions.
I love analogies, the slingshot analogy and the difference between character growth vs having more money are two gems.
Not only will’ Prosperity preaching’ mess us up, but ANY false teaching leads to pain and frustration. Why? Because false teaching leads to false expectations…
Exactly!
That's because God doesn't make you happy. He doesn't come through for us. He doesn't actually answer prayers. That's why you're setting yourself up for a false reality if you actually believe he cares about you. Know that he doesn't, and gaslight yourself that he does. That's the ticket to heaven.
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr This is why we must STOP viewing GOD as a vending machine…
@@emergebyal8054 the whole thing normalizes unhealthy and abusive behavior. It's really no wonder that Christians that really take it seriously can end up with abusive mindsets. You get a lot of practice defending this God and then you apply that to humans. The whole thing is just not good.
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr Seek Truth, not fairytales…
Thanks, Mike, for the slingshot analogy - The further back you are pulled, the higher up you are goiing to soar ..., the more trouble, the deeper the character, the closer the relationship with God, the greater the reward, if we let God into it. Also he does say to count it all joy, and in this you rejoice, and we glory in trouble - now! Do I do it? No, but like you say, I get a glimmer of it, and growing, may the Gardener continue to garden in my heart.
Amen Brother. I can often tell when the Lord has been at work in this manner, in someone's life. There is a humility and gratefulness there, that is so precious.
II Corinthians 4:17 is one of the verses that the Lord has been using in my walk since I was saved. It proves to me that though I might be experiencing things that confuse me, but they pale in comparison to God's surpassing Glory
This message is SO AMAZING!! I share with others all the time about how our hardships in this life are preparation for building character and working towards what we will be responsible for and doing in eternity.
I love the video game character leveling analogy and have used it myself. It seems that if you start feeling like you’ve attained a level of spiritual maturity, that you will level up. And at that new level, you find the things you’re up against are harder than anything you’ve faced before, driving us back to the Lord for strength and help.
Amen. And leveling up, cam also expose new weaknesses in us that God wants to deal with. In this way, our progress may be obscured to us, since our challenges grow alongside our character.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it is so hard to find good teaching of truth like this today. And I have listened to all of your teachings repeatedly, but need more. LOL I am an elderly woman alone, struggling, suffering, and knowing what the Lord says about that, but everyone telling me if i just gave more money to God he would make me rich and take away my suffering. Knowing that is not biblical truth, knowing what you taught here, I just tell them, "money is not everything" then they don't know what to say. everyday is a pain filled struggle for me, filled with loneliness... but God has been amazing and faithful through it all, as he transforms my thinking and behavior from the way of the world, to his way. I rejoice in the struggle, through tears though. lol
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Look up Gary Hamrick too . We listen to him as well , more solid teacher and pastor we can not find
How may I help you?
It can be very lonely in today's world. Does your area have a pen pal program by chance? My granddaughter joined one through our local library and writes frequently to her pen pal who is elderly. They have become friends and continued their correspondence even after the pen pal time ended at the library.
Those are definitely people trying to take your money.
I love this verse. I remember a pastor telling us to read it in the first person. "Therefore, I do not lose heart. Though outwardly I am wasting away, yet inwardly I am being renewed day by day. For my light and momentary troubles are achieving for me an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. So I fix my eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal." NIV Thanks P. Mike for your ministry. Truly a blessing to me and making me a better follower of Jesus Christ....and Bible thinker😊
What a great analogy re video games! I happen to fall into the same category, I haven't played video games since I was a young lad and recently got a Steam Deck and have enjoyed kicking back and playing video games from time to time to just unwind, but I too enjoy the character upgrade type games not so much the gear upgrades lol I grew up on Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, PTL, etc. watching all those guys with my mom. I really had no idea that their message wasn't truth, but have really enjoyed your videos explaining and have been sharing them. Thank you for all you do!
Excellent message, so glad you didn't downplay suffering so much as put it in perspective. This is a hard yet important message for me to receive.
Yes. Suffering is so hard, but so important in character formation.
May we all be strong in the Lord to the very end.
Thank you, Mike, for the helpful, biblical wisdom. My take on Romans 5 is: We glory in tribulation (trouble), because trouble produces perseverance, and perseverance produces character ... Whose character? The character of Christ - so trouble can produce the character of Christ in us if we are willing. Gives a very different take on trouble.
Amen Brother.
I needed to hear this today. I’ve been going through a lot. Thanks pastor Mike. Glory to god
God be with you, Brother. God is at work, and He doesn't abandon us. Blessed are those who have not seen Him, yet *trust* in Him.
So good.
God is interested in making us more than conquerers, just like him. Roman’s 8
Mike, I'm lifting you up in prayer. Thank you for your obedience and effort in this ministry. I have never listened to someone who practically and logically applies scripture as you do. You are a blessing to me and many others.
Pastor Mike! This was amazing! I've never thought of it this way. I have cancer and I'm going through what you spoke about. Pain, confused etc. however now I can look at this so differently and rejoice in the transformation he's making in me for eternity!
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Cancer is not a Godly thing, God is the author of life, He does not create sickness
@@andinda7915 Agree! However, God can use my circumstances for his glory! 🙏🏼
@TheCreativeChica Yes very true, but he is not the cause of the circumstance.
Bottom line is, that Gid wants you perfectly healthy, because a fully healthy body in a sick world brings God more glory.
@@andinda7915 Agree! Amen! 🙌🏼
I’d like to thank you Mike for all your Godly knowledge and truth that you so boldly speak. May God bless you in your love for Him.
When I consider my suffering alongside that of the Christian throughout the world and history, I find this teaching is what I need in order to explain it (and to see that mine is very small in comparison, though that's not very emotionally helpful all the time). But, the implications are this (are they not?): there is no reasonable expectation of any period of life to be without suffering in this world, in this life. There's only an expectation of freedom from suffering in heaven, right? And it's so amazing there, we're utterly unconcerned by what we experienced here?
I’ve never heard a prosperity preacher explain why the historical majority of believers lived in peasant-level poverty.
Not gonna lie, that Video Game analogy is kind of awesome. As a high school small group leader, I’m definitely using that 😂
Loved the slingshot analogy. 🤩 Please, never stop boldly proclaiming the Truth with so much love and grace. Blessings. By grace alone. 🙏🏻
Love your teachings from the Bible. Love you so much Pastor Winger you are such a blessing to me. Many blessings Love sister Liza ❤
The fundamental problem with the prosperity gospel isn't that they don't talk about suffering, it's that they don't tell you that your generosity is supposed to be aimed at the poor, not the church.
Paul says "you will reap what you sow" and echoes Micah. God says he will bless you if you're generous. But that generosity has to go towards those in need.
And what comes back isn't gold and silver.
ya i think you touched on what i find the prosperity gospel gets wrong, which is that yes you give away the material things, because they don't matter to us. they shouldn't matter to us. we don't serve that master. and what we get in return is obviously not the wordly riches the rest of the world so desires.
Tithing is to the ministry was started before the law of moses with Melchesidek, Sowing is in Mathew, Alms is still a different kind of giving it's to the poor and there is giving of first fruits each has it's own reward Jesse Duplantis has a good teaching on them all Tithing God rebukes the devour Sowing your free will offering 30, 60, or 100 fold , Alms God pays you back what you gave to the poor who couldn't pay you back first fruits you can give to the pastor or to the church your choice . I once received 1000 x what I gave it was my last $7 dollars and had no income coming in at the time. Not sure what that falls under unless it's sacrficial giving .Robin Bullock is a good teacher on giving also but Jesse Duplantis covers every kind of giving and explains each the best.
@@sheilasawyer8351 No
Excellent, Christ centered biblical teaching .
Thanks.
Amen, brother Mike. This may be the most relevant teaching to the American church in this day and time. God bless you.
I just happened to watch this teaching today and I really needed to hear it. Thank you for allowing the Holy Spirit to use you, Mike, and stewarding the gifts you have.
Thank you so much for this one Mike. God Bless you 🙏
so well explained. i have read that verse on light and momentary troubles and you helped me to understand that verse more. thank you and praise God.
This is my very favorite talk you have put out from my perspective.
And SO NEEDED!
It filled my heart, but watching it again with pen and paper!!
Thank you for all you do🙌
This is deceptive, God is a good God, He is a good father. He wants you healthy and He wants to provide for you.
Read the Bible for yourself please, explain how Jesus's ministry involved healing but somehow now He doesn't heal anymore?
Jesus never ever refused to heal anyone, this man has not really understood the Bible
Thank you for sharing Gods truth. I'm so broken right now and need prayers family 😢
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Praying, Sara.
Prayers going up fam 🙏
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Wow, the slingshot analogy was just exceptional. May God bless you and your family for all of your days, Pastor Mike. You are an amazing ally, and I am blessed through your videos every single day. How great is our God that through a single man he touches the lives of hundreds of thousands. Praise the almighty Father for His innumerable gifts to us, Mike among them.
Thank you pastor For your wise words. As a person who suffers daily with chronic pain, I truly get what you are saying. This is a inspring reminder of suffering and groaning and of whats is to come. As a nature lover I also see the groaning in nature.Praise be to Yeshua Jesus for His ultimate suffering for me on the cross. 🙌
Amen, totally agree.
Awesome video mike! Thank you for posting.
Thank you Jesus 🙌🏽All Glory to you oh Lord
VERY encouraging message!!!! Thanks
Wow, this is so good, thankyou for addressing this issue.
I'm incredibly grateful that this is a topic you discussed today, I GREATLY needed it 💜 Thanks Mike 💜
This is the message the Church needs to return to. America is rapidly becoming a post-Christian culture and our faith will no longer be socially acceptable. The prosperity churches will see their numbers rapidly decline when just the title of "Christian" brings reproach. More importantly, though, have we in our more mainstream churches prepared the Body of Christ for these things? If all we teach is a God who wants to answer their prayers, meet their needs, help them with their problems, and bless them in ministry and life, then we haven't done enough. The gospel of suffering is needed to "vaccinate" our congregations against hard times to come.
Many American Christians see tribulation as a sign of the end times and assume Jesus will come back before it gets too bad. The truth, though, is that many of our brethren around the world already live in times of tribulation where suffering, persecution and even death are the normal Christian experience. Their faithfulness in the midst of a culture like that is both a shining example and a stinging criticism to us in our comfortable culture of religious freedom. Let's embrace the example of our suffering brothers and sisters and rise above the criticism by learning to suffer well for the glory of God!
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Absolutely superb and articulate presentation. Thank you so much, Mr. W!
You brought these scriptures to life for me. Thank you so much!
Thanks Mike. God bless you for being the lifter of my soul today.
These are the messages we need! Thank you pastor Mike 🙏✝️
Thanks from Germany!
Mike, you always point me to reason and help me to get “me” out of the way. I love listening to you, scripture and understand what my mind sometimes just doesn’t get it. God Bless.
God bless you Mike. Enjoying your videos for years and the Holy Spirit has blessed you to always be renewing minds!!
Thank you so much Mike for this teaching.
Thanks, Brother! This is just the message I needed today. 🙏
AMEN AMEN AMEN . I TOTALLY AGREE. TQ PASTOR MIKE. ALL GLORY TO OUR GOD. HALLELUJAH.
Perfect timing for a good word
Thanks for this. Really appreciate your teaching
Thank you for this. I definitely needed this reminder today.
Great encouragement, Mike. Thank you for sharing. 🌞
Thank you for describing this. I needed to hear this and wow, what a message to think on.
Thank you for this lesson!
I love ya Brother Mike, God bless you and your ministry.
This message is coming to me at a very much needed time. I thank God for this revelation that was brought through you. God bless you!
Such a great teaching brother. You are fast becoming my favorite teacher. I will share this with my friends.
That was awesome !
This was timely.💔 Thank you, Pastor Mike.
Thank you! What a great reminder 😊 Truth
Thank God Praise Him for this video! Exactly for me 🥹 God knows what you are going through
I so appreciate your profound revelations to us from Scripture. Thank you! Janet Brown :)
Thank u Mike.needed to hear this. Because whilst I experience this on every level every year, And how alone I am feeling because of it, Gives me peace knowing that this is what is for our Lord, lean not on our understanding.
Great word--TY so much for bringing balance to YT Christian preaching and so much common sense with respect for the whole counsel of God!!
Pastor Mike talking about gaming. Did not expect that on my 2024 bingo card 😛
😂shoulda been around in like.. 2007
Thank you pastor Mike. Your messages are always powerful and insightful. I’m so grateful to have discovered you. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Amen! Thank you for sharing the insight given you about these passages. Beautiful and clearly stated. Love the slingshot simile.
I shared a sermon recently entitled 'A Godly Response to Suffering' and it was really about what God has said about believers suffering. The sermon really came from indignation I have felt in the last three years by ppl around me buying into prosperity teacher's misleading ideas about suffering.
Thanks Pastor Mike for the sound teaching.
The scripture says that....MANY ARE THE AFFLICTIONS OF THE RIGHTEOUS....BUT THE LORD DELIVERETH THEM FROM THEM ALL!
Thanks for this. I'm also glad to see that I'm not the only person who learned a life lesson from video games about hardship and struggles being the way we level up and become stronger.
That slingshot analogy is SO GOOD!!
I love you Pastor Mike and team!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Such an important message!!!
I’m keeping prayers for you and your family Sara🙏
Thank you! Well said!🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Excellently said Pastor Mike! Bravo!
Thanks for the hope you spread
We are to keep the future glory in mind
As NTWrite says, we are a shadow of what we will be in the future - Kingdom of God
NT Wright?
Comfort and joy. Learning to endure for my whole life
I guess I have joy if God gets something out of my suffering
Thank you Mike
Amen❤️
Thank you Mike!
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Hello how do you make such monthly ?? I'm a born Christian and sometimes I feel so down 🤦 of myself because of low finance but I still believe in God.
Thanks to my co-worker (Alex) who suggested Ms Susan Jane Christy.
She's a licensed broker in the states 🇺🇸
After I raised up to 325k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the states 🇺🇸🇺🇸 also paid for my son's surgery (Oscar). Glory to God.shalom.
Wow that's nice She makes you that much!! please is there a way to reach her services, I work 3 jobs and trying to pay off my debts for a while now!! Please help me.
Thank you Pastor Mike. How could we not be affilicted in this sin-filled world. Your scriptures and explanation is so helpful. My heart is hopeful. My BSF leader said to me, we have to go thru the process before we get to His promise. Amen.
Thank you!❤
great video mike! Praise God.
Great encouragement
Ang ganda!!! 💯
Yes, pain, grief and groaning are integral to the life of a Christ follower. And so is joy, hope and peace of heart, through suffering.
Great video
Mike, this was SO very encouraging to me this morning! I was diagnosed with ocular melanoma last September and have grappled with the not understanding and sadness at the turn of events in my life.
Isaiah 26:3 tells me that God will keep me in peace as long as I fix my eyes on Him. I try to do this daily. And I look forward to seeing my Savior face to face and living forever with Him in a place with no sorrow, pain or suffering.
Perfect! Thanks
Great Lesson 👍
Thank You Jesus
👍❤️🙏 ....Amen! May it glorify my Creator, God , Heavenly Father and Savior Jesus Christ.