Anxiety doesn't cause you to think someone might stab you. That is either a case of "we can't label someone who is underage with mental illness x" or a parental cover up.
Yes, it sounds more like paranoia than an anxiety disorder. Although, paranoid thinking will cause anxiety. As a minor teenager, OP's brother should not have been labeled with an adult mental health diagnosis anyhow.
probably both. no one wants to admit to being crazy. but they sure don't care about inflicting it on a child now do they. they believe in fairies and santa claus when it comes to 'our child will be normal no matter how messed up we are'.. what a gas.
Honestly, it sounds like it could be a severe case of OCD. Paranoia, erratic behavior, and lashing out can all be markers that he’s suffering from obsessive thoughts.
Story one: this straight up, reminds me of that one story about OP‘s mother-in-law that convinced her own son that their kids weren’t his just because of their gender in essentially causing the guy to lose everything.
From what I remember: The MIL assaulted the OP. OP had to get away from her ex husband. Ex husband “realized” his mother was lying and manipulating him. OP had to go into hiding with her children, and the ex husband was going nuts trying to get her back. OPs ex made a post ranting about how dare the OP move on when she found a partner.
@@stephaniex90 yep, that’s definitely the story and in this current story, the OPP’s brother is becoming an absolute idiot, allowing his life to implode on him because of a basic speculation on how he believes biology and how having children should work. the one thing is baseless assumptions neither of which had evidence. Once everything is all over and the children are proven to be his they both try to come crawling back or pretend like nothing happened or like they never doubted the OP or op Sil but the bridge is already burned.
@stephaniex90 Not quite but there abouts - MIL did assault OP - OP had to do a paternity test to get him to back her - OP shares custody with her ex - OP's ex made his sob story post complaining when she told him she was pregnant (with a boy)
Fr, the “she told me she was sleeping with him again and that was all that it was” comment clearly shows that she’s not even remotely ashamed of cheating and would most likely cheat on OP again if they actually got married
@@tomascaro5224I have anxiety and I can remember it causing me not to trust anyone except for a select few and even then I would also worry about every little thing they did to make sure they actually meant it. My paranoia wasn’t thinking someone was going to stab me but more of they are plotting behind my back to do something truly awful. With my own first hand experiences I know that someone saying something, that would normally have nothing to do with your life, can turn into full blown panic and until there is some reassurance that it can get progressively worse.
"Yeah, my brother had anxiety" Yeah, no, OP that doesn't sound like regular anxiety and therapy is a must. I hope the brother gets better, but his delusions will nuke that marriage and can ruin the niece's life.
I think he was mainly a victim of circumstance as well as extreme anxiety and overactive imagination as he’d got a lot of information on how a baby should look a lot like the father if it’s a firstborn daughter etc.. then the wife seems reluctant to take the paternal test at first, I’d probably freak a bit too, but I do hope he gets better soon, as it seems like everyone picked on him a bit in the first part and were insensitive asses a bit
@@AstaStaria-li1pe I understand, but if this is real it seems that only OP and SIL understands that the brother needs help and the parents are in denial
@@AstaStaria-li1pe You should not call it "information" cause it is the opposite. Genetics doesn't count. All of the stories he heard where pseudoscientific BS. He failed to remember what he should have learned back in school or he should have just used his phone to check. But he failed and believed invented stories instead of his wife.
Yep. My sister got that from our dad. They were both white blonde up until their early 20's, then dad's hair got dark brown and sister's hair went very very dark blonde. Mom was never "blonde" but her hair was noticeably lighter until her late teens, whereas I'm the odd one in my family in that my hair's always been dark since I was 3 haha.
The genetics are too strong with "Amy's" family for "Lisa" to have much if any of "Jack's" features. That myth that "the firstborn daughter is so much like the father" shows how the brother is so easily manipulated or is very in need of counseling. And his anxiety needs treatment.
The fact that his parents assumed they knew everything well enough to diagnose him and not get him properly assessed is where this all started... the parents are neglecting their son severely... and it is a growing problem in our world that people think they know better than a profeasional on what their mental helth assessment is!!! I NEVER would have known i had PTSD from a specific event in my life, 5 yrs later i was in a therapy appointment finally and i found out I have traditinal symptoms of PTSD, i still dont see it and ove had it pointed put to me!!! People need to take this stuff more seriously!!!
@@KB-jo3thit’s paranoid personality disorder symptoms are unrelenting mistrust suspicion of others eccentric way of thinking even when their is no reason to be suspicious
I am the first born of my family, and I am my mother's splitting image save for some differences. Genetics are very random, no one really knows what a kid will look like until they're born, so unless his daughter looks absolutely nothing like him, a lot like her mother but with some pieces from seemingly nowhere, then he's an idiot who is probably projecting onto his poor wife.
Take into account it’s possible for children to look like one parent and not the other. I look just like my father as of now. Like the only thing you can tell me apart from him is eye color
@@axinhedgelion8417 Yea, what they meant was features not obviously from mom and not from dad is the only time to really have an issue in situations like this, but even then, those gene could have come from grandparents, so it's not definitive even in that situation.
Genetics are NOT random mate, in the totality of everything of you, you are 50% mum and dad, whether it be looks or personality, or even muscle build. There are few random mutations but not always, like two blondes can have a ginger kid. The randomness is what nature decides as the best average traits from both parents, as it’s trying to make an uncommon out of two commons so to speak. If a child displays no behavioural patterns or physical, then everyone should be at least a bit doubtful, like the fact that two black haired parents can technically have a blonde baby, but I’d be a bit concerned if it does even if the baby does look like them both. He wasn’t even projecting in the story, he had a severe anxiety so don’t be so insensitive either, as I know people who have it and find it hard and act a bit like this but less on the extreme side
We are at 1 out of 2 you are not the father on paternity tests in the US. There is another agency that reports 1 out of 3. France was up to 4 out of 5 you are not the father. That's the whole reason they changed paternity tests laws in the country. Women couldn't figure out who the father to pursue child support. So perhaps we need to accept the need for paternity tests and stop villainizing fathers that want one.
@@marthajackson1388 god damn, my man’s speaking the truth. I think the thing that annoys me the most other then people trying to take chunks out of people who say this sort of stuff because “oh, it leads to trust issues” well, it’s been proven you should be worried. Also, people in here obviously haven’t passed biology anyway as not many of them seem to know anything about genetics and how they work, like how my long ass comment above says
"That's not just anxiety, that's paranoia" THIS. Anxiety doesn't make you paranoid per se, it's more... You hear someone say "This one time, someone stabbed me with a pen" and then you feel anxiety when someone is holding a pen near you. But you don't necessarily become hyper-vigilant and paranoid about it. That's a WHOLE other beast.
Wife should agree to the test and then provide him with divorce papers when the result comes back. As a child I looked nothing at all like either parent or sibling. As I reached maturity I turned into a clone of my dad.
story 1: as someone with an anxiety disorder, it seems highly unlikely that's what's going on there. It's possible the brother was misdiagnosed, it is an unfortunately common practice for doctors to misdiagnose minors intentionally to "save the feelings of the family". (ex. many doctors misdiagnose autistic children, specifically girls, with ADHD for this reason). This sounds alot more like some variety of paranoia. If i were the brother i'd be asking for a second opinion from a different doctor
Story 1: Brother literally has textbook schizophrenia with delusions of persecution and control. And also why did he feel like he needed to “prove” to Amy that being honest is easy. He should have just gotten the DNA test on his own and it’s not like you need your wife’s consent. Brother has a mental illness and that is what is destroying his self and his marriage and not unfaithfulness.
Honestly, the fact that she's dumb enough to go back to her toxic cheating ex several years after fully acknowledging that said ex was toxic shows she's really not the brightest crayon in the box. So, yeah, dumb ass probably just forgot about location tracking.
Ok but why not just do the paternity test? Also people who are telling sil to divorce the brother are just jerks. He clearly has mental health issues and yall are trying to increase it. Also the people who are saying the brother was cheating are just as dumb. They literaly have no proof so dont make accusations like this
As someone with a parent who's a neurologist but still refused my mental health diagnosis (confirmed by a psychiatrist), please take your brother to get evaluated by a professional immediately. I find that some parents will go to whatever means necessary to believe their children aren't "crazy".
Sil needs to divorce. We don’t have the full picture here but by what OP is saying it sounds like his brother has experienced early stages of paranoia or schizophrenia. Until he gets the help he needs his wife should leave him and take the kid with her. People with such problems are dangerous for themselves and others. He needs help before this episodes escalate to something that can’t be fixed
I feel bad for Jack because he’s definitely struggling with something way more serious then anxiety. Someone said schizophrenia and I can definitely see it. With that said it doesn’t give him a free pass for his actions towards his wife and daughter.
Story One: Alright, as someone who does suffer from anxiety, it does not make it so you think people are gonna stab you with pens unless it's something that you have in fact experienced. What Jack was "diagnosed" with isn't anxiety, it's something else and he needs the help. Anxiety doesn't make you act that way. I hope that Jack can get the correct diagnosis and help he needs
For story 1... I am female. I have two sons. Both of them, but especially my oldest, are practically carbon copies of me. Where I am a carbon copy of my father. Genetics is not a linear equation and can throw curveball at you for no reason. My brother and sil both have brown hair. They have 5 kids. 2 blondes, 2 brunettes, and a redhead. But because we understand that genetics can be funny, no one EVER even thought once that she had cheated. Some people are just delusional.
Story 2 sounds like some sort of self-sabotage on her part. She believed she didn't deserve to be in a healthy relationship, so she blew it up herself.
Genetics totally depends on probability of which will become dominant, recessive or incomplete dominance poor guy And in that case her daughter should look like the affair partner not her mum
I’m the third biological child to my parents and I’m told that I look like a combination of my parents. First child, my older sister looks more like an aunt on my dad’s side from what I’m told (never met that aunt) and second child, my brother looks like one of my uncles on my mom’s side. We all have some similarities and differences, but nothing that stands out. Behavior wise… we’re nothing alike.
Story 1: While I can sympathize with the brother's mental condition, he should consider himself very lucky his wife did not break off the marriage after the paternity test demand. If I have to be honest, OP also seems to be in the fog too, cause what he described goes more than just anxiety. It sounds like the brother has paranoid schizophrenia based on the description provided, and I have a hunch this was never properly diagnosed from a young age. My only advice for OP is just provide support to the brother's family, possibly away from the parents if necessary, cause I don't like how the parents just thought they could just kick the can down the line and hope the condition does not reappear (this is only based on what OP had said, so I can give the parents the benefit of doubt). Story 2: OP deserved two smacks to the noggin. One for proposing too early, and the other for treating his ex like a queen. If OP did not rush into the engagement so quickly, he would have picked up on the red flags before popping the question. As for the other, being nice to a partner is one thing, but to move heaven and earth to match her whims, that is another, and is a major turn-off (hint: much as they like to wield power over them, people generally don't like pushovers). At the very least, OP is out of that relationship, but I strongly advise against jumping straight into another relationship.
"Firstborn daughters are spitting images of their fathers." *looks at her sister* Sir, that is totally incorrect. Did OP's brother never take biology in high school??
Story 1: Yeah, Jack is off his fucking rocker. Only my younger sister was the spitting image of our father, and I (male) get frequently compared to my uncle on my mom's side. Genetics be like that.
How do people completely forget about recessive genes?!! My son looks mainly like me but what really throws it off is that he has a very dirty blond/very very light brown hair color and the blue hazel eyes from his father. I have the dominant brown eyes and dark hair from my father. I was hoping my son would too HOWEVER since the light colored hair and eyes are dominate on his father's side and recessive on mine (maternal side) he ended up with those traits. Although he does have the majority of my facial features. Also that's not anxiety that's more like paranoid schizophrenia. Bro needs help.
I’m sorry, “the first born, especially if it’s a daughter, is supposed to look more like the dad?” That is so stupid and not even partially true. I’m daughter #2 of three girls and I’m the one who takes more after my dad than either of my sisters. True, my older sister kind of resembled our dad as a small child, but not a lot. I, however, was almost a spitting image for most of my childhood. Now I look more of a blend with some heavy lean towards my dad’s mother. Genetics will do as genetics does.
I’m the firstborn and I am the carbon copy of my mother except for hair color (we had the same hair color as babies but I went lighter and she went darker with age). I look NOTHING like my dad except how I have strawberry blonde hair that finally showed the red at 7 years old. He was a redhead as a kid. My brother looks like a perfect mix of my maternal and paternal grandfathers. I act just like my dad😂 but my personality didn’t show up after a few years of being alive lol. This poor baby in the middle, and Amy as well.
Thats why you always tell her that if you ever have kids the dna test will be mandatory regardless that way nobody gets upset because you requested it previusly.
Story 1 the brother may have an anxiety disorder but this story is full blown personality disorder either BP or a schizoaffective disorder and if he has the fear of someone possibly attacking him then he's actually a danger in that state he could easily hurt his wife or child and he seems to be the type to not take his meds so divorce and supervised visits are the only option in that case.
Yeah, that is some form of paranoia. Thinking someone is going to stab you when they have shown no indications of stabbing you is very much not anxiety. That being said, mental health treatment for people under 18 is.. Not great. From experience, then tend to just slap either anxiety, depression, or conduct disorder on kids and call it good enough. Some of that is just because they can't diagnose some things in minors, and some of it is just a shit mental health system that only knows how to treat the most common disorders. I hope he gets the help he needs and that if it is paranoid schizophrenia, the medication works and he takes it.
Story 1, thats not anxiety, that is extreme paranoia. I know because i also suffer from paranoia due to my bipolar. He either needs to get rediagnosed, or the parents are hiding something from OP
*STORY 1:* Okay, first of all, the child looking like the mother doesn't prove the brother's point at all. Even if his daughter was actually somebody else's, then she would end up looking like that person instead of the mom according to the brother's logic. So, for the kid to look like the supposed affair parther, the mother should have been cheating with her twin brother or something💀
"He wouldn't sit next to this one person in class cuz he thought they'd stab him with a pen" that sounds kind of like schizophrenia My grandpa had mild schizophrenia and had kidney problems. Those two don't make each other worse on a literal sense, but whenever his kidneys would show signs of failing (something that'd happen a couple times over the years and progressively got worse) he'd absolutely refuse going to the hospital because he was dead sure that the nurses and doctors were tring to kill him
In order for a child to present with recessive traits when one parent has recessive traits and the other parent has dominant traits, the parent with dominant traits must be a carrier for the recessive traits. I learned about this in 6th grade science class SMH🙄🙄🙄
Paranoid schizophrenia, dude was acting like my dad he was in his 40's telling me about the messages he would read from the color and order of the cars passing by on the highway. He kinda kept it in check with alot of weed. Finally was diagnosed at the VA @ 62 years old....
The first story I stg!!! My husband is very brown, not gonna lie there. Our son is just as white as I am. He’s got my (now dirty) blonde hair and green eyes and my frizz. He’s got a mixture of our personality. But he is the spitting image of my husband. Same nose, ears, eye shape, curly hair. Everything! He’s just white as hell which does suck as people think he’s not his, but if you’d legit take a minute to look at him next to his dad, they’re twins! Genetics are weird and you don’t know what you’ll get. We’re curious to see how I daughter will look when she’s born in 4 months
This is not anxiety. This is more like bipolar disorder. This is paranoia. This is not anxiety. I’ve had an anxiety attack before. what he is describing and what I had are two completely different things.
Bruh, I look just like my mom, and as far as I know, my dad never demanded a paternity test. OP’s brother, in my opinion, is incredibly stupid for thinking this.
Reese witherspoon daughter is the 1st kid looks just like her. Her son 2nd born looks just like his father Also that's not anxiety that's bipolar or schizophrenic
OP 1's brother is definitely paranoid and he kinda sound schizophrenic or has schizoaffective disorder, having those types of delusions are not normal w/anxiety. His thought process is so nonsensical, I have schizophrenic grandparents and I can easily imagine one of them doing this during a break
I’m the first born grandchild of my family and I look identical to my mom except from my hair and eyes which match my great grandmother’s perfectly. Whoever told him that was completely wrong.
the shadow doesn't sound like a schizophrenia thing to me, it sounds like maybe a priest needs to get involved. someone please reach out to that person and let them know.
The first story remind me of my mother and my aunt (her youngest sibling). My mother is, according to my great grandma (Rest in peace dear granny), the spitting image of her mother. They apparently are very alike, Their voice, attitude, tastes in clothing (To a certain degree), expressions, the way the walk, prideful, and are very loving people. My aunt looks a lot like my mother as well, but with a smaller face. Needless to say, my Great-Great Grandmother died very young due to a lung disease when my Great Grandma was a child, and after my mom was born, she became her favorite grandchild. My Grandfather (My mother's father) used to think the same as OP's brother; since she didn't look like him, she couldn't possibly be his daughter, and always treated her poorly (He wasn't an affective person, but with my mother he was really tough and strict with her. The first time he told her he was proud of her was when she was in her 30's). My mom always loved him and wanted his approval, but he kept his cold demeanor to her until his last day.
Story 1: This is an old wive's tale in my country. My first baby looked like his dad (which sucks bc i carried him in me and for what LOL) -- but im the eldest and i look just like my mom. Genes are random.
I am an only child and when people see my mom and I together, they always say I look like her. When I am with my mom sister, they always assume I’m her daughter. When I’m with my father‘s sister, they always assume I’m her daughter. When I’m with my father, They can guess I’m his daughter, but it’s never an immediate thing. I look like carbon copies of my mom‘s sister and my dad‘s sister. The family jokes, and says that both of my aunts had me. The only reason I think I look like my mother is because my mom and aunt do look similar, and I was raised by my mother, so I have a lot of her habits personality wise, though, I’m a perfect mix of my dad and my mom‘s sister. The only thing I don’t get from my aunt is I hate reading.
I look just like my donor and we act NOTHING alike. I am my own person even if we share a common interest. This is such a stupid reason to set your family up to fail. That being said, I understand how it feels to get stuck in your head about stuff. The brother definitely could have dealt with the situation better. To add: That's not just anxiety. That's something more serious.
Has the brother never heard of hybrid brown eyes? I'm too old to have children now, but I had a brown-eyed mother and a blue-eyed father. I could have borne blue-eyed children had they been fathered by a blue-eyed or hybrid brown-eyed man. I learned that in high school, for pity's sake, and I am not the product of private schools.
i look just like my mom when she was my age. if held up a photo of my mom when she was younger, and a picture of me, youd think tye were the same person. my brother, second born after me, looks just like my mom, too. then my other little brother looks like my dad. my nephew is a perfect blend between my sister and her bf. genetics are weird.
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Anxiety doesn't cause you to think someone might stab you. That is either a case of "we can't label someone who is underage with mental illness x" or a parental cover up.
Yes, it sounds more like paranoia than an anxiety disorder. Although, paranoid thinking will cause anxiety.
As a minor teenager, OP's brother should not have been labeled with an adult mental health diagnosis anyhow.
That's was exactly my first thoughts.
Or an incompetent therapist
probably both. no one wants to admit to being crazy. but they sure don't care about inflicting it on a child now do they. they believe in fairies and santa claus when it comes to 'our child will be normal no matter how messed up we are'.. what a gas.
Honestly, it sounds like it could be a severe case of OCD. Paranoia, erratic behavior, and lashing out can all be markers that he’s suffering from obsessive thoughts.
Story one: this straight up, reminds me of that one story about OP‘s mother-in-law that convinced her own son that their kids weren’t his just because of their gender in essentially causing the guy to lose everything.
From what I remember:
The MIL assaulted the OP.
OP had to get away from her ex husband.
Ex husband “realized” his mother was lying and manipulating him.
OP had to go into hiding with her children, and the ex husband was going nuts trying to get her back.
OPs ex made a post ranting about how dare the OP move on when she found a partner.
@@stephaniex90 yep, that’s definitely the story and in this current story, the OPP’s brother is becoming an absolute idiot, allowing his life to implode on him because of a basic speculation on how he believes biology and how having children should work. the one thing is baseless assumptions neither of which had evidence. Once everything is all over and the children are proven to be his they both try to come crawling back or pretend like nothing happened or like they never doubted the OP or op Sil but the bridge is already burned.
@stephaniex90 Not quite but there abouts
- MIL did assault OP
- OP had to do a paternity test to get him to back her
- OP shares custody with her ex
- OP's ex made his sob story post complaining when she told him she was pregnant (with a boy)
Nah cause I know that story
Does anyone remember the name
We failing biology with this one 🗿🗿🗿🗿
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Hell we failing 7th grade science with this one🗿
Not as badly as the guy who is convinced that when you adopt a child, their DNA changes to make them your biological child! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@pachichan262 makes you wonder how can a single digit IQ person legally adopt anyone
Hmmm, after the update there's some serious mental health issues, and he's so very not okay and the parents may be trying to pretend it isn't there
Story 1: When it comes to two year old Lisa, Jack.........you are the father!!!!!
Honestly I'd say something way more direct.
"Of course you're the father, you idiot!"
No replies? But yes that's what's he's like
Story 2: Manipulate or not, she’s the one that chose to lie and cheat. Simple as that. You dodge the bullet dude! Let her miserable with her choice.
Fr, the “she told me she was sleeping with him again and that was all that it was” comment clearly shows that she’s not even remotely ashamed of cheating and would most likely cheat on OP again if they actually got married
That sounds more like paranoia than anxiety
As someone with anxiety, anxiety is like that when it’s severe
@axinhedgelion8417 even the part of thinking someone is going to physically hurt him?
Can it be reallu that bad?
@@tomascaro5224I have anxiety and I can remember it causing me not to trust anyone except for a select few and even then I would also worry about every little thing they did to make sure they actually meant it. My paranoia wasn’t thinking someone was going to stab me but more of they are plotting behind my back to do something truly awful. With my own first hand experiences I know that someone saying something, that would normally have nothing to do with your life, can turn into full blown panic and until there is some reassurance that it can get progressively worse.
"Yeah, my brother had anxiety" Yeah, no, OP that doesn't sound like regular anxiety and therapy is a must. I hope the brother gets better, but his delusions will nuke that marriage and can ruin the niece's life.
I think he was mainly a victim of circumstance as well as extreme anxiety and overactive imagination as he’d got a lot of information on how a baby should look a lot like the father if it’s a firstborn daughter etc.. then the wife seems reluctant to take the paternal test at first, I’d probably freak a bit too, but I do hope he gets better soon, as it seems like everyone picked on him a bit in the first part and were insensitive asses a bit
@@AstaStaria-li1pe I understand, but if this is real it seems that only OP and SIL understands that the brother needs help and the parents are in denial
@@AstaStaria-li1pe You should not call it "information" cause it is the opposite. Genetics doesn't count. All of the stories he heard where pseudoscientific BS. He failed to remember what he should have learned back in school or he should have just used his phone to check. But he failed and believed invented stories instead of his wife.
Wanting genetic tests is one thing but threatening divorce without any solid proofs is rather pathetic
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Story 1. While yes, brown hair is dominant, op's brother could have both genes for blond hair and blue eyes.
I know lots of people that are born with blue eyes and blond hair. But it turns brown before age 5
@@tyckeri happened to me. Hand blonde hair but it darkness to a brown
Yep. My sister got that from our dad. They were both white blonde up until their early 20's, then dad's hair got dark brown and sister's hair went very very dark blonde. Mom was never "blonde" but her hair was noticeably lighter until her late teens, whereas I'm the odd one in my family in that my hair's always been dark since I was 3 haha.
The genetics are too strong with "Amy's" family for "Lisa" to have much if any of "Jack's" features. That myth that "the firstborn daughter is so much like the father" shows how the brother is so easily manipulated or is very in need of counseling. And his anxiety needs treatment.
The fact that his parents assumed they knew everything well enough to diagnose him and not get him properly assessed is where this all started... the parents are neglecting their son severely... and it is a growing problem in our world that people think they know better than a profeasional on what their mental helth assessment is!!!
I NEVER would have known i had PTSD from a specific event in my life, 5 yrs later i was in a therapy appointment finally and i found out I have traditinal symptoms of PTSD, i still dont see it and ove had it pointed put to me!!! People need to take this stuff more seriously!!!
Sounds more like paranoid schizophrenia-
Thats what i was thinking. Definitely something more severe then just anxiety
This
My thoughts exactly
@@KB-jo3thit’s paranoid personality disorder symptoms are unrelenting mistrust suspicion of others eccentric way of thinking even when their is no reason to be suspicious
2nd Story: Shes right, she dosent deserve a man like OP
Im always entertained at the audacity of some people to get mad when they're caught cheating. As if the humiliation they receive isn't fair.
They can only ever dish it, they can't take it.
I am the first born of my family, and I am my mother's splitting image save for some differences. Genetics are very random, no one really knows what a kid will look like until they're born, so unless his daughter looks absolutely nothing like him, a lot like her mother but with some pieces from seemingly nowhere, then he's an idiot who is probably projecting onto his poor wife.
Take into account it’s possible for children to look like one parent and not the other. I look just like my father as of now. Like the only thing you can tell me apart from him is eye color
@@axinhedgelion8417 Yea, what they meant was features not obviously from mom and not from dad is the only time to really have an issue in situations like this, but even then, those gene could have come from grandparents, so it's not definitive even in that situation.
Genetics are NOT random mate, in the totality of everything of you, you are 50% mum and dad, whether it be looks or personality, or even muscle build. There are few random mutations but not always, like two blondes can have a ginger kid. The randomness is what nature decides as the best average traits from both parents, as it’s trying to make an uncommon out of two commons so to speak. If a child displays no behavioural patterns or physical, then everyone should be at least a bit doubtful, like the fact that two black haired parents can technically have a blonde baby, but I’d be a bit concerned if it does even if the baby does look like them both. He wasn’t even projecting in the story, he had a severe anxiety so don’t be so insensitive either, as I know people who have it and find it hard and act a bit like this but less on the extreme side
We are at 1 out of 2 you are not the father on paternity tests in the US. There is another agency that reports 1 out of 3. France was up to 4 out of 5 you are not the father. That's the whole reason they changed paternity tests laws in the country. Women couldn't figure out who the father to pursue child support. So perhaps we need to accept the need for paternity tests and stop villainizing fathers that want one.
@@marthajackson1388 god damn, my man’s speaking the truth. I think the thing that annoys me the most other then people trying to take chunks out of people who say this sort of stuff because “oh, it leads to trust issues” well, it’s been proven you should be worried. Also, people in here obviously haven’t passed biology anyway as not many of them seem to know anything about genetics and how they work, like how my long ass comment above says
"That's not just anxiety, that's paranoia" THIS. Anxiety doesn't make you paranoid per se, it's more... You hear someone say "This one time, someone stabbed me with a pen" and then you feel anxiety when someone is holding a pen near you. But you don't necessarily become hyper-vigilant and paranoid about it. That's a WHOLE other beast.
Wife should agree to the test and then provide him with divorce papers when the result comes back.
As a child I looked nothing at all like either parent or sibling. As I reached maturity I turned into a clone of my dad.
I am the eldest, and the spit of my dad, but my eldest daughter is the spit of me, biology has no rules except it's own!
Bro did not learn about Punnett Squares 🤦♂️
story 1: as someone with an anxiety disorder, it seems highly unlikely that's what's going on there. It's possible the brother was misdiagnosed, it is an unfortunately common practice for doctors to misdiagnose minors intentionally to "save the feelings of the family". (ex. many doctors misdiagnose autistic children, specifically girls, with ADHD for this reason). This sounds alot more like some variety of paranoia. If i were the brother i'd be asking for a second opinion from a different doctor
Story 1: Brother literally has textbook schizophrenia with delusions of persecution and control. And also why did he feel like he needed to “prove” to Amy that being honest is easy. He should have just gotten the DNA test on his own and it’s not like you need your wife’s consent. Brother has a mental illness and that is what is destroying his self and his marriage and not unfaithfulness.
Story 2 : Did she not know his fiance can look at his location
Honestly, the fact that she's dumb enough to go back to her toxic cheating ex several years after fully acknowledging that said ex was toxic shows she's really not the brightest crayon in the box. So, yeah, dumb ass probably just forgot about location tracking.
Story 1
It's looks like the brother has a mild case of schizophrenia,I know due to have a cousin,that does have that same behavior.
Ok but why not just do the paternity test? Also people who are telling sil to divorce the brother are just jerks. He clearly has mental health issues and yall are trying to increase it. Also the people who are saying the brother was cheating are just as dumb. They literaly have no proof so dont make accusations like this
As someone with a parent who's a neurologist but still refused my mental health diagnosis (confirmed by a psychiatrist), please take your brother to get evaluated by a professional immediately. I find that some parents will go to whatever means necessary to believe their children aren't "crazy".
Sil needs to divorce. We don’t have the full picture here but by what OP is saying it sounds like his brother has experienced early stages of paranoia or schizophrenia. Until he gets the help he needs his wife should leave him and take the kid with her. People with such problems are dangerous for themselves and others. He needs help before this episodes escalate to something that can’t be fixed
Story 1: I really hope brother gets the help he really needs.
Story 2: The garbage took herself where she belongs.
I feel bad for Jack because he’s definitely struggling with something way more serious then anxiety. Someone said schizophrenia and I can definitely see it. With that said it doesn’t give him a free pass for his actions towards his wife and daughter.
Story One: Alright, as someone who does suffer from anxiety, it does not make it so you think people are gonna stab you with pens unless it's something that you have in fact experienced. What Jack was "diagnosed" with isn't anxiety, it's something else and he needs the help. Anxiety doesn't make you act that way. I hope that Jack can get the correct diagnosis and help he needs
For story 1... I am female. I have two sons. Both of them, but especially my oldest, are practically carbon copies of me. Where I am a carbon copy of my father. Genetics is not a linear equation and can throw curveball at you for no reason.
My brother and sil both have brown hair. They have 5 kids. 2 blondes, 2 brunettes, and a redhead. But because we understand that genetics can be funny, no one EVER even thought once that she had cheated. Some people are just delusional.
Story 1- your brother and sister in law don't need marriage counseling Your brother needs to learn science 🧬 dna or just go back to high school
I'm a first born I had relatives argue that I either look like my mom or I look my dad.
Story 1 spot the difference 🧱 🙍♂️
Story 2 sounds like some sort of self-sabotage on her part. She believed she didn't deserve to be in a healthy relationship, so she blew it up herself.
Genetics totally depends on probability of which will become dominant, recessive or incomplete dominance poor guy
And in that case her daughter should look like the affair partner not her mum
I’m the third biological child to my parents and I’m told that I look like a combination of my parents. First child, my older sister looks more like an aunt on my dad’s side from what I’m told (never met that aunt) and second child, my brother looks like one of my uncles on my mom’s side. We all have some similarities and differences, but nothing that stands out. Behavior wise… we’re nothing alike.
Story 1: While I can sympathize with the brother's mental condition, he should consider himself very lucky his wife did not break off the marriage after the paternity test demand. If I have to be honest, OP also seems to be in the fog too, cause what he described goes more than just anxiety. It sounds like the brother has paranoid schizophrenia based on the description provided, and I have a hunch this was never properly diagnosed from a young age. My only advice for OP is just provide support to the brother's family, possibly away from the parents if necessary, cause I don't like how the parents just thought they could just kick the can down the line and hope the condition does not reappear (this is only based on what OP had said, so I can give the parents the benefit of doubt).
Story 2: OP deserved two smacks to the noggin. One for proposing too early, and the other for treating his ex like a queen. If OP did not rush into the engagement so quickly, he would have picked up on the red flags before popping the question. As for the other, being nice to a partner is one thing, but to move heaven and earth to match her whims, that is another, and is a major turn-off (hint: much as they like to wield power over them, people generally don't like pushovers). At the very least, OP is out of that relationship, but I strongly advise against jumping straight into another relationship.
The brother has paranoia, it's not just anxiety. He's paranoid and anxiety just in forced it
"Firstborn daughters are spitting images of their fathers." *looks at her sister* Sir, that is totally incorrect. Did OP's brother never take biology in high school??
Story 1: Yeah, Jack is off his fucking rocker. Only my younger sister was the spitting image of our father, and I (male) get frequently compared to my uncle on my mom's side. Genetics be like that.
Your parents are in denial, I'm no psychiatrist but it definitely sounds like more than anxiety.
Schizophrenia often appears in men between their late teens and late twenties
How do people completely forget about recessive genes?!! My son looks mainly like me but what really throws it off is that he has a very dirty blond/very very light brown hair color and the blue hazel eyes from his father. I have the dominant brown eyes and dark hair from my father. I was hoping my son would too HOWEVER since the light colored hair and eyes are dominate on his father's side and recessive on mine (maternal side) he ended up with those traits. Although he does have the majority of my facial features.
Also that's not anxiety that's more like paranoid schizophrenia. Bro needs help.
"First born daughter's a carbon copy of her father"
....Where does bro get his sources?
we're failing biology AND psychology with this one! 🗣🗣🗣
My daughter looks like me but is through and through a daddy's girl.
So, the bro has a very guilty conscience!
That's nit anxiety, thats paranoia. Big difference
I’m sorry, “the first born, especially if it’s a daughter, is supposed to look more like the dad?” That is so stupid and not even partially true. I’m daughter #2 of three girls and I’m the one who takes more after my dad than either of my sisters. True, my older sister kind of resembled our dad as a small child, but not a lot. I, however, was almost a spitting image for most of my childhood. Now I look more of a blend with some heavy lean towards my dad’s mother. Genetics will do as genetics does.
I’m the firstborn and I am the carbon copy of my mother except for hair color (we had the same hair color as babies but I went lighter and she went darker with age). I look NOTHING like my dad except how I have strawberry blonde hair that finally showed the red at 7 years old. He was a redhead as a kid. My brother looks like a perfect mix of my maternal and paternal grandfathers. I act just like my dad😂 but my personality didn’t show up after a few years of being alive lol. This poor baby in the middle, and Amy as well.
Thats why you always tell her that if you ever have kids the dna test will be mandatory regardless that way nobody gets upset because you requested it previusly.
Story 1 the brother may have an anxiety disorder but this story is full blown personality disorder either BP or a schizoaffective disorder and if he has the fear of someone possibly attacking him then he's actually a danger in that state he could easily hurt his wife or child and he seems to be the type to not take his meds so divorce and supervised visits are the only option in that case.
Yeah, that is some form of paranoia. Thinking someone is going to stab you when they have shown no indications of stabbing you is very much not anxiety.
That being said, mental health treatment for people under 18 is.. Not great. From experience, then tend to just slap either anxiety, depression, or conduct disorder on kids and call it good enough. Some of that is just because they can't diagnose some things in minors, and some of it is just a shit mental health system that only knows how to treat the most common disorders.
I hope he gets the help he needs and that if it is paranoid schizophrenia, the medication works and he takes it.
Nah, screw that. You doubt me and out baby, I’m gone. You get the test results and the divorce papers.
i’m the first born daughter. i look like a mix of my mother and father, but mostly like my mother.
He's going for therapy, if he's got something they'll figure it out there 😫
Story 1, thats not anxiety, that is extreme paranoia. I know because i also suffer from paranoia due to my bipolar. He either needs to get rediagnosed, or the parents are hiding something from OP
*STORY 1:* Okay, first of all, the child looking like the mother doesn't prove the brother's point at all. Even if his daughter was actually somebody else's, then she would end up looking like that person instead of the mom according to the brother's logic. So, for the kid to look like the supposed affair parther, the mother should have been cheating with her twin brother or something💀
"He wouldn't sit next to this one person in class cuz he thought they'd stab him with a pen" that sounds kind of like schizophrenia
My grandpa had mild schizophrenia and had kidney problems. Those two don't make each other worse on a literal sense, but whenever his kidneys would show signs of failing (something that'd happen a couple times over the years and progressively got worse) he'd absolutely refuse going to the hospital because he was dead sure that the nurses and doctors were tring to kill him
thats not anxiety. that’s schizophrenia. big difference.
I agree it's not anxiety but schizophrenia seems like a big leap to me.
….. i mean i get if the wife should be mad at the blackmail, even breaking up makes sense… but just get the test lmaoo
SIL should've divorced... this man can't be trusted.
story 1: this sounds exactly like schizophrenia
In order for a child to present with recessive traits when one parent has recessive traits and the other parent has dominant traits, the parent with dominant traits must be a carrier for the recessive traits. I learned about this in 6th grade science class SMH🙄🙄🙄
Paranoid schizophrenia, dude was acting like my dad he was in his 40's telling me about the messages he would read from the color and order of the cars passing by on the highway. He kinda kept it in check with alot of weed. Finally was diagnosed at the VA @ 62 years old....
This story is funny bc I’m the first born and also a carbon copy of my mom. Guess I’m not my dad’s kid either 😂
That's not just anxiety, it's 🐂
The first story I stg!!! My husband is very brown, not gonna lie there. Our son is just as white as I am. He’s got my (now dirty) blonde hair and green eyes and my frizz. He’s got a mixture of our personality. But he is the spitting image of my husband. Same nose, ears, eye shape, curly hair. Everything! He’s just white as hell which does suck as people think he’s not his, but if you’d legit take a minute to look at him next to his dad, they’re twins! Genetics are weird and you don’t know what you’ll get. We’re curious to see how I daughter will look when she’s born in 4 months
It’s possible for children to look like one parent and nothing like the other. So OP’s brother is TA.
This is not anxiety. This is more like bipolar disorder. This is paranoia. This is not anxiety. I’ve had an anxiety attack before. what he is describing and what I had are two completely different things.
Bruh, I look just like my mom, and as far as I know, my dad never demanded a paternity test. OP’s brother, in my opinion, is incredibly stupid for thinking this.
Jesus Jack needs to go back to school because apparently he forgot about biology and genetics
Imagine this wallad in biology classes
He was _in_ biology class?
@@Blurgamer17 probably not. Thought bi- meant that the class was only for bisexuals
☠️ I was in a special biology then, as I’m sure as hell ain’t bi, I guess I just did ology then
@@AstaStaria-li1pe so did most of us unlike the bozo in the story
Yeah he thinks he has a very American look, probs forgot his origins
First borns are NOT always carbon copies of the father. For example, i have a mixture of features from my parents
Reese witherspoon daughter is the 1st kid looks just like her. Her son 2nd born looks just like his father
Also that's not anxiety that's bipolar or schizophrenic
OP 1's brother is definitely paranoid and he kinda sound schizophrenic or has schizoaffective disorder, having those types of delusions are not normal w/anxiety. His thought process is so nonsensical, I have schizophrenic grandparents and I can easily imagine one of them doing this during a break
Sounds like projection. She should give a paternity test in exchange for him doing an STD panel and full access to phone and socials.
I’m the first born grandchild of my family and I look identical to my mom except from my hair and eyes which match my great grandmother’s perfectly. Whoever told him that was completely wrong.
My older half brother looks like his father. I look like my mother and grandfather while my sister looks like my father. Genetics are... complicated
the shadow doesn't sound like a schizophrenia thing to me, it sounds like maybe a priest needs to get involved. someone please reach out to that person and let them know.
Story 1 is the first real story for a while.
Story 1 is a personality disorder called paranoid personality disorder
The first story remind me of my mother and my aunt (her youngest sibling).
My mother is, according to my great grandma (Rest in peace dear granny), the spitting image of her mother. They apparently are very alike, Their voice, attitude, tastes in clothing (To a certain degree), expressions, the way the walk, prideful, and are very loving people. My aunt looks a lot like my mother as well, but with a smaller face. Needless to say, my Great-Great Grandmother died very young due to a lung disease when my Great Grandma was a child, and after my mom was born, she became her favorite grandchild.
My Grandfather (My mother's father) used to think the same as OP's brother; since she didn't look like him, she couldn't possibly be his daughter, and always treated her poorly (He wasn't an affective person, but with my mother he was really tough and strict with her. The first time he told her he was proud of her was when she was in her 30's). My mom always loved him and wanted his approval, but he kept his cold demeanor to her until his last day.
Story 1: This is an old wive's tale in my country. My first baby looked like his dad (which sucks bc i carried him in me and for what LOL) -- but im the eldest and i look just like my mom. Genes are random.
Story 1: that's not anxiety that's paranoia
Sounds like a schizoaffective disorder
I am an only child and when people see my mom and I together, they always say I look like her. When I am with my mom sister, they always assume I’m her daughter. When I’m with my father‘s sister, they always assume I’m her daughter. When I’m with my father, They can guess I’m his daughter, but it’s never an immediate thing. I look like carbon copies of my mom‘s sister and my dad‘s sister. The family jokes, and says that both of my aunts had me. The only reason I think I look like my mother is because my mom and aunt do look similar, and I was raised by my mother, so I have a lot of her habits personality wise, though, I’m a perfect mix of my dad and my mom‘s sister. The only thing I don’t get from my aunt is I hate reading.
I look just like my donor and we act NOTHING alike. I am my own person even if we share a common interest. This is such a stupid reason to set your family up to fail. That being said, I understand how it feels to get stuck in your head about stuff. The brother definitely could have dealt with the situation better.
To add: That's not just anxiety. That's something more serious.
He has paranoia not anxiety.
unfortunately. in the first story. psychotic breaks occur around your thirties
... That's schizophrenia ... Not anxiety ... Thinking everyone is against you isn't anxiety only ... That's more shit
Me and my older sister take after our mom, my younger sister takes after our dad🤷
Two minutes in, and I bet the husband is the one that is cheating and he’s projecting like a mofo
Call me uncultured , but what's an "American look" ??
Your brother sounds like he's having a paranoid schizophrenic episode with anxiety. He needs help.
@telltales why are your story 2 always about cheating
Has the brother never heard of hybrid brown eyes? I'm too old to have children now, but I had a brown-eyed mother and a blue-eyed father. I could have borne blue-eyed children had they been fathered by a blue-eyed or hybrid brown-eyed man. I learned that in high school, for pity's sake, and I am not the product of private schools.
Lol my parents first grandchild looks like my sister and uncle in different stages of growing up sometimes ppl are just to stupid and in😂secure.
Plot twist the brother was a girl and the wife was a man😂😂
i look just like my mom when she was my age. if held up a photo of my mom when she was younger, and a picture of me, youd think tye were the same person. my brother, second born after me, looks just like my mom, too. then my other little brother looks like my dad.
my nephew is a perfect blend between my sister and her bf. genetics are weird.
Why not make the test in secret if my man is so doubtfull.