I don’t understand the Herbert hate. He’s done everything right on the field, and off the field he says nothing stupid, does nothing stupid, and has the undying support of every one of his teammates.
It’s literally only because people get tired of hearing about how good a QB is when he isn’t on their team. Guy never says anything out of pocket and is locked in when it comes to doing his job, so they have to claw for a reason to dismiss his ability.
So is Justin Fields. Just watch his college highlights, then compare them to his NFL ones. *_He_*_ stayed consistent,_ throwing perfectly accurate low-flying missiles that got to their moving targets too quickly to be defended. His receivers in the NFL were so inept no one _needed to_ defend the. Running non-existent routes because they forgot what they were doing, falling down because putting feet in front of another is a skill they hadn't learned yet or ruclips.net/video/glpaya0xz-4/видео.html his #1 WR literally swatting passes out of the air like he thought they were attacking him. Those are just the ones that went for INTs. You all _know_ not every time people who trip over their own feet or swat away passes it was an INT. But while no one blames Mahomes for *his receivers deflecting passes for INTs,* Fields got blamed for _his _*_defense not holding leads_* scoring more than any other team in the NFL weeks 8-10 & the Bears losing all 3. But not one person looks at his actual passing ability & judges him on it the way they do Herbert. I wonder if anyone here _can._ Even seen together with another QB who is far less accurate I find that people still judge on non-talent-related criteria. ruclips.net/video/5JO1PsupF_U/видео.html. I don't expect anything different from this crowd.
Charger fan here. We all knew Justin was truly carrying us by November. He had to play elite level to keep us competitive in games. He got way to much shit after the Cowboy game, but his play wasn't that bad. Our team was that bad when he doesn't play 110%. And then after IR, we all saw how bad our team really was. Justin was making a bottom tier team and average team. We were the AFC Panthers with an elite QB in 2023. And apparently Ben Johnson would only consider HC for the Chargers, Pete Carroll tried to get the Charger job, Harbaugh came to the Chargers first. Why did all this happen? Justin Herbert.
It's so true. How many times does Herbert have to go super saiyan and still lose like he did against the Raiders in '21 and the Lions this year before they realize he can only do so much.
Harbaugh & Hortiz are going to be busy cleaning up Telesco’s mess! Considering they could use an upgrade almost everywhere across their roster I don’t expect them to completely turn things around in just one season.
@@abriaangel9986 - I’m sure they will be more competitive next season, but I’m tempering my expectations considering that QB & LT are the only positions they don’t need to address this off-season.
@@dandeitch3459 There's a non zero possibility that much of our roster looks significantly better with proper coaching. I think that may be the toughest job for the incoming staff. How the hell do you evaluate players put in horrible situations all season long due to inept coaching? Does anyone really believe Derwin is suddenly as bad as he looked last season? I definitely want to give the new staff time to implement their system and fill out the roster with their guys though.
@@bmdub - the new coaching staff will help, but they don’t have a lot of talent on either side of the ball. They don’t have many players signed through next season. Trading down would be ideal considering all the areas they need to address.
Anyone watching should know Herbert a stud who’s really carried a lot of games with crazy throws and bottom 10 OL health/play often, little separation in scheme, playing through some injuries-> toughness. I was on Tua > Herbert and was instantly taking that back a game or two into his rookie year. Harbaugh should love this man.
Harbaugh is a gem! I'm most happy for Herbert. And of course the team and us fans. It's been 47 years for me. I think Herbert is the best QB the Chargers have ever had. Yes, I said EVER!
Herbert definitely is the Chargers most talented QB. To stand still with your feet planted and throw over 60 yards… lol That’s a cannon right there. And I’m thinking next season… Herbert will have a career year. Maybe 5,000/45 or more TD’s.
As a Duck fan, I was worried that Herbert would get put in a bad position, but man he has been lighting it up in the pros. A team's win/loss record, while the QB takes a lot of blame, is not solely on him. His stats back that up as you said.
I love this video! We are podcasts that talks about the Los Angeles Chargers football team. It is legitimately shocking to me how often people have talked down Herbert. He is elete! Remember tons of injuries on the offensive side of the ball also. Defense ranked 30th and league. That's all things that Herbert cannot control.
To the Chargers fans from a 49ers fan- you guy’s are going to kick ass with Jim Harbaugh. Remember how much better the 49ers and Alex Smith were in Harbaugh’s first year. This man is going to have Herbert playing to all his strengths!
Justin Herbert pretty much has a .500 record while having the most injury prone offensive cast of any QB and never having a top 20 defense in his career. In Herbert's situation, Mahomes is the only QB in the NFL who would do better than 30-32. Herbert has to win shootouts on an almost weekly basis. If Herbert was in Burrow's situation, he'd already be a Super Bowl winning QB. In the '22 and '23 playoffs, Burrow had a top 2 WR duo (Chase, Higgins) and his defense never gave up 25+ points over SEVEN playoff games. Keep in mind, the Bengals defense faced the Bills, Chiefs 2x, and the Rams in the Super Bowl...never gave up 25+ points. It's crazy how Burrow is considered top 3 and Herbert is considered overrated.
I honestly question if even Mahomes would do better than 30-32 having to deal with that football terrorist of a coaching staff. The main difference is Mahomes may not have been so quietly supportive of the three ring circus going on around him. I just imagine Mahomes pulling off his amazing game winning drives only to go to the bench every time and watch his D give it right back to end the game.
iN FIRST 50 games, Justin Herbert has set an NFL record with 14 game-winning drives and 11 fourth-quarter comebacks. Meaning he had a game- winning drive 48% of his wins. For context, In the same time frame, Patrick mahomes who has been dubbed the "comeback kid" by some has 6 game-winning drives and 6 fourth-quarter comebacks he has a game winning drive 14% of the of his wins in his first 50 starts. So Herbert in his first 50 starts has 48% chance of game winning drive to mahomes 50 first starts at 14% a whopping 34% difference higher PM **Personally, I have watched his defense lose about 10 others after JH10 drove down and scored, while Mahomes' defense 7TH helped him win his first Super Bowl. Herbert's defense, on the other hand, has consistently ranked 28th, 32nd, 30th, and 27th throughout his career. No quarterback has ever won with a defense ranked that poorly, with the closest being the NY Giants, whose 24th-ranked defense helped them win a Super Bowl.
and look at tthese accomplishments: NFL Records and Franchise, stc** 1- iN FIRST 50 games, Justin Herbert has set an NFL record with 14 game-winning drives and 11 fourth-quarter comebacks. Meaning he had a game- winning drive 48% of his wins. For context, In the same time frame, Patrick mahomes who has been dubbed sort of a "comeback kid" by some has 6 game-winning drives and 6 fourth-quarter comebacks he has a game winning drive 14% of the of his wins in his first 50 starts. So Herbert in his first 50 starts has 48% chance of game winning drive to mahomes 50 first starts at 14% a whopping 34% difference higher PM ** Personally, I have watched his defense lose about 10 others after JH10 drove down and scored, while Mahomes' defense 7TH helped him win his first Super Bowl. Herbert's defense, on the other hand, has consistently ranked 28th, 32nd, 30th, and 27th throughout his career. No quarterback has ever won with a defense ranked that poorly, with the closest being the NY Giants, whose 24th-ranked defense helped them win a Super Bowl. 2-most 300-yard games in three years, and having 300 during 22 out of 49 games. 3-fastest to 1500 completions 4-ranks second in most touchdowns in his first three years. Additionally, 5-Most games with 300+ passing yards as a rookie ( 6-Most consecutive games with 2+ TD passes as a rookie (7) 7-Most games as a rookie with 3+ TD passes (5) 8-Most passes completed by a rookie (396) 9-First rookie in NFL history to have 4 passing TDs in MNF debut 10- First rookie with 2,000+ yards passing and 15+ TD in first 7 starts 11-First rookie with 1,600+ yards passing and 20+ TD in first 9 starts 12-Most passing yards in 1st half of a game since 1991 (277) 13-First player with passing TD and rushing TD in 1st half of NFL debut since 1954 14- Tied for most games with 3 TD passing and 0 INT through 2 seasons 6 (Still had13 games left in 2nd season) 15-First QB to reach 500+ completions before 20th career start , 16-(Most passing TD as a rookie (31) 17-Herbert passed Hall of Fame quarterback Dan Marino for most passing touchdowns in a player's first two seasons with 69. He's also behind Marino and Kansas City's Patrick Mahomes as the third-youngest player to throw for 5,000-plus yards in a season. **18- Chargers franchise record for rushing yards in season by qb and for passing yards in season 5014yds 19-Since rookie season, Herbert has 77 scores, the most in a player's first two yrs. **21-Herbert broke the franchise's single-season pass touchdowns record in Week 17 yr2 21- Herbert set the Chargers' single-season completions (443) records previously held by Hall of Famer Dan Fouts and Rivers, respectively. Herbert ALSO became the only Chargers quarterback to ever throw for 5,000-plus yards in a single season, albeit with one extra game. **22- The final game of the 2021 regular season also marked the ninth 300-yard passing game from Herbert - another team record. He had three games this season with over 380 yards passing Herbert in second season records shattered i may have mentioned one but second yr records as - Most pass yards in first 2 seasons 23- Justin Herbert's first three years include setting the NFL record for total yards with 14,089, beating previous mark by Andrew Luck 12,956 by over 1000 ys. 24-first player in NFL history to throw at least 30 touchdown passes in each of his first two seasons. He threw for 31 as a rookie 38 2nd season. 69 total passing 25- 85% completion for games with >45 passing attempts #1 in NFL history 26- Most pass TD in first 2 seasons 27-4th player ever 5K-yard season before 25 (Mahomes, Marino, Stafford) Herbert had a passer rating of 96. 28- First rookie in NFL history to throw for four touchdown passes on Monday Night Football There are even more record Next Page Had Chargers defense gave up less than 28 Herberts record would be 42-20 ***only attributed win for chargers had they scored over the 28 had the defense gave up 28+ and chargers scored less than 28 i kept it an L HERBERTS 32 LOSSES ONLY 5 CAME FROM GAMES WHERE THE DEFENSE GAVE UP LESS THAN 27 AWARDS ROSEBOWL MVP(2019) SENIOR BOWL MVP(2020 William V Cambell Trophey Winner(2019) 3x Academic All-American PFWA All-Rookie Team AP Rookie of Year PFWA NFL Rookie of the Year (2020) 2021 NFL top 100(#56) 2022 NFL top 100(40) 2023 NFL Top 100 (#32) ROSEBOWL WINNER(2019) Career Rankings All-Time as of now, some of these will change when his prime is over or as he ages, but still pretty crazy. NFL ALL-Time Completion % - Tied 3rd (66.8%) Passes Completed per Game- 1st All-time (26) nxt closest T 2nd Drew Brees, Pat Mahomes(24.9) Passing Yards Per Game- 3rd all-time 2nd Actice Players(278 pass/ypg) Passing Completions in Single Season- 3rd all-time(477comps age 24) 1st&2nd Tom Brady Age 44,/485compltions / age 45 490 completions ALL-Time SINGLE SEASON PASSING YARDS- 15th All Time (5014yds) passing 2021 Career Passer Rating- All-Time 16th 96.1- 7th among Active Players Pass-Interception % - All-Time tied (2nd-1.7%) Among Active (1st-1.7%) ( **Pat Mahomes/Tom Brady 1.8% 2nd)
@@kev-hu8lh Thanks for those stats. Unfortuately, the casuals and haters will continue to pretend like Herbert isn't an elite QB...but they will see very soon, now that he actually has a competent HC who knows how to win.
well alot and taking that into account after looking at the following is freaking insane to say the least: iN FIRST 50 games, Justin Herbert has set an NFL record with 14 game-winning drives and 11 fourth-quarter comebacks. Meaning he had a game- winning drive 48% of his wins. For context, In the same time frame, Patrick mahomes who has been dubbed a sort of "comeback kid" by some has 6 game-winning drives and 6 fourth-quarter comebacks he has a game winning drive 14% of the of his wins in his first 50 starts. So Herbert in his first 50 starts has 48% chance of game winning drive to mahomes 50 first starts at 14% a whopping 34% difference higher PM ** Personally, I have watched his defense lose about 10 others after JH10 drove down and scored, while Mahomes' defense 7TH helped him win his first Super Bowl. Herbert's defense, on the other hand, has consistently ranked 28th, 32nd, 30th, and 27th throughout his career. No quarterback has ever won with a defense ranked that poorly, with the closest being the NY Giants, whose 24th-ranked defense helped them win a Super Bowl.
Love listening to you and your stats, and seeing the clips of players on the field. Neat!! Bringing those facts out is super important. Keep it going. Great job!
Also how many other QBs have to use a silent count at virtually all of their home games? One of the biggest ways Harbaugh can impact this team is by bringing some excitement to LA and putting more Chargers butts in seats.
Being a Herbert fan is frustrating. He is such a special player but his team is holding him back and people overlook him for it. Meanwhile Mahomes has every tool in the toolkit a quarterback could possibly have. I really hope Harbaugh turns things around.
hopefully Harbaugh can help that defense. they lost more games for the chargers then i can remember which has made extremely difficult to be a fan after they drafted our home groan boy from Eugene.
i am both a Packers and a Chargers fan, this season i had more expectations for the Chargers to go far while the Packers figure things out. But ironically it took the Chargers meetup for the Packers to figure things out and for the Chargers to completely fall apart. And i have always liked Herbert as a QB. From his background and him being a chargers fan growing up. But at the end of the day football is a team sport and this season showed that the Chargers were not clicking as a team, and a big part of that was the lack of catches and the coaching. Hopefully this next season will be different and we can see some improvements. Either way i am looking forward to next season
Teams with young QBs need to hire Brandon Staley to run their scout team defenses so he can build their confidence like he did for Jordan Love. Then immediately get him away from the team of course.
Justin proved everything to me when he played the raiders a couple seasons ago that guy was amazing when he had to be but everything else has failed around him the defense the coaching has been a f****** joke thank God for Jim harbaugh
NFL Records and Franchise** 1- iN FIRST 50 games, Justin Herbert has set an NFL record with 14 game-winning drives and 11 fourth-quarter comebacks. Meaning he had a game- winning drive 48% of his wins. For context, In the same time frame, Patrick mahomes who has been dubbed the "comeback kid" by some has 6 game-winning drives and 6 fourth-quarter comebacks he has a game winning drive 14% of the of his wins in his first 50 starts. So Herbert in his first 50 starts has 48% chance of game winning drive to mahomes 50 first starts at 14% a whopping 34% difference higher PM ** Personally, I have watched his defense lose about 10 others after JH10 drove down and scored, while Mahomes' defense 7TH helped him win his first Super Bowl. Herbert's defense, on the other hand, has consistently ranked 28th, 32nd, 30th, and 27th throughout his career. No quarterback has ever won with a defense ranked that poorly, with the closest being the NY Giants, whose 24th-ranked defense helped them win a Super Bowl. 2-most 300-yard games in three years, and having 300 during 22 out of 49 games. 3-fastest to 1500 completions 4-ranks second in most touchdowns in his first three years. Additionally, 5-Most games with 300+ passing yards as a rookie ( 6-Most consecutive games with 2+ TD passes as a rookie (7) 7-Most games as a rookie with 3+ TD passes (5) 8-Most passes completed by a rookie (396) 9-First rookie in NFL history to have 4 passing TDs in MNF debut 10- First rookie with 2,000+ yards passing and 15+ TD in first 7 starts 11-First rookie with 1,600+ yards passing and 20+ TD in first 9 starts 12-Most passing yards in 1st half of a game since 1991 (277) 13-First player with passing TD and rushing TD in 1st half of NFL debut since 1954 14- Tied for most games with 3 TD passing and 0 INT through 2 seasons 6 (Still had13 games left in 2nd season) 15-First QB to reach 500+ completions before 20th career start , 16-(Most passing TD as a rookie (31) 17-Herbert passed Hall of Fame quarterback Dan Marino for most passing touchdowns in a player's first two seasons with 69. He's also behind Marino and Kansas City's Patrick Mahomes as the third-youngest player to throw for 5,000-plus yards in a season. **18- Chargers franchise record for rushing yards in season by qb and for passing yards in season 5014yds 19-Since rookie season, Herbert has 77 scores, the most in a player's first two yrs. **21-Herbert broke the franchise's single-season pass touchdowns record in Week 17 yr2 21- Herbert set the Chargers' single-season completions (443) records previously held by Hall of Famer Dan Fouts and Rivers, respectively. Herbert ALSO became the only Chargers quarterback to ever throw for 5,000-plus yards in a single season, albeit with one extra game. **22- The final game of the 2021 regular season also marked the ninth 300-yard passing game from Herbert - another team record. He had three games this season with over 380 yards passing Herbert in second season records shattered i may have mentioned one but second yr records as - Most pass yards in first 2 seasons 23- Justin Herbert's first three years include setting the NFL record for total yards with 14,089, beating previous mark by Andrew Luck 12,956 by over 1000 ys. 24-first player in NFL history to throw at least 30 touchdown passes in each of his first two seasons. He threw for 31 as a rookie 38 2nd season. 69 total passing 25- 85% completion for games with >45 passing attempts #1 in NFL history 26- Most pass TD in first 2 seasons 27-4th player ever 5K-yard season before 25 (Mahomes, Marino, Stafford) Herbert had a passer rating of 96. 28- First rookie in NFL history to throw for four touchdown passes on Monday Night Football There are even more record Next Page Had Chargers defense gave up less than 28 Herberts record would be 42-20 ***only attributed win for chargers had they scored over the 28 had the defense gave up 28+ and chargers scored less than 28 i kept it an L HERBERTS 32 LOSSES ONLY 5 CAME FROM GAMES WHERE THE DEFENSE GAVE UP LESS THAN 27 AWARDS ROSEBOWL MVP(2019) SENIOR BOWL MVP(2020 William V Cambell Trophey Winner(2019) 3x Academic All-American PFWA All-Rookie Team AP Rookie of Year PFWA NFL Rookie of the Year (2020) 2021 NFL top 100(#56) 2022 NFL top 100(40) 2023 NFL Top 100 (#32) ROSEBOWL WINNER(2019) Career Rankings All-Time NFL ALL-Time Completion % - Tied 3rd (66.8%) Passes Completed per Game- 1st All-time (26) nxt closest T 2nd Drew Brees, Pat Mahomes(24.9) Passing Yards Per Game- 3rd all-time 2nd Actice Players(278 pass/ypg) Passing Completions in Single Season- 3rd all-time(477comps age 24) 1st&2nd Tom Brady Age 44,/485compltions / age 45 490 completions ALL-Time SINGLE SEASON PASSING YARDS- 15th All Time (5014yds) passing 2021 Career Passer Rating- All-Time 16th 96.1- 7th among Active Players Pass-Interception % - All-Time tied (2nd-1.7%) Among Active (1st-1.7%) ( **Pat Mahomes/Tom Brady 1.8% 2nd)
What really sucks is that the analysts on these sport platforms are former NFL players mostly the QB ‘s. These guys hat on Justin Herbert. They hate on on him because they “SUCKED” when they were active players. He doesn’t get the respect that he truly deserves. Justin is way better than Tua and is more consistent that Burrow. Yet he gets criticized.. Justin with the help of Harbsugh is going to show his fully potential if what he can do.
Great QB, doesn't get credit because ppl think " winning" is all in the QB. When it isn't a QB stat, never was his fault chargers lost. Bad coaching, bad defenses. JH will make him a winner
Every successful NFL team has a running game that can control the clock when needed ever so often. The team also has a defense that can make plays to stop the apposing team every once in a while. The Chargers have not had either of those since Justin Herbert arrived and he still killed stats. Do not worry Charger fans...the winning is coming soon :). GO CHARGERS!!
All these so-called experts who get paid to give an opinion are full of it sometimes. Like Acho. Everything that comes out of his mouth about Justin is negative. I get it you make these types of shows to give us football content everyday that's not game day etc..just not fair for Herbert. All the hate and this kid is nothing but nice and humble to everyone. I guarantee if the chargers had an average defense his career record as a starter would not be below .500
Its because people had so many bad takes and bad process scouting him coming out. The only difference with this and the Josh Allen hate is that Josh team has made the playoffs so many times but both guys have to deal with the same hubris from know it alls.
The Chargers need to protect him better. Watching him run around and drop dimes is fun but that's shouldn't be the norm. When the defense gets fixed he'll have more wins. But WORST CASE SCENARIO! Chargers get everything in line for 2024 and Herbie gets injured in Week 1 or 2. Oline needs to be fixed!!!!
Herbert’s done more than anyone could ask for. He’s broken all time passing records. Only knock on him is he hasn’t won anything important. That’s hardly his fault, his defense has been terrible. He doesn’t play defense though. He can only control what he does passing the ball, and again, he’s been so good he’s broken all time records. What more can he do.
Anyone who isn't a clickbait merchant, Tua Stan or Troll admits this already. The problem is the aforementioned group is the loudest and tries to control the narrative...
Yeah, I actually work in pro sports R&D-different sports but seasoned evaluator with the math and with the gut feel. And Herbert is head and shoulders above any QB in the league aside from Pat Mahomes and Josh Allen. Jackson isn’t even close, like Purdy, Tua, Goff, Hurts, he’s a good quarterback with a great system, who fits his coach’s system and game plan well. He just looks and plays differently, and his system operates differently. Herbert, Allen, Mahomes, and soon-probably Stroud-have the arms, ball control, and IQ to tear apart virtually any defense they encounter with minimal support. Their legs are as valuable to their passing games as it is to their running game. They present far more problems for the opposing defense to cover than anyone else. If were to do it analytically, you’d control for the amount of support their teams give them, and isolate the factors they actually control when evaluating and projecting their performance. Herbert is able to drive down the field, even with minimal support in blocking, running or even receiving. His arm, IQ, processing speed, accuracy and body control help him make a wider variety of throws than anyone besides Allen and Mahomes. His athleticism, size and speed make him elusive and keeps the defense honest. If you have him even a decent pocket, his tools eliminates a chunk of defensive players from being effective against him. This generation, it’s Mahomes, Allen, Herbert and probably Stroud who are the real talents who can and will win anywhere.
Hopefully Harbaugh gets the O-line to protect JH10 and creates a solid run game to support their franchise QB. He'll bring home the hardware. Just protect him.
Don’t worry Chargers fans. You now have one of the greatest HCs in football history. You now have the guy that is going to turn Justin Herbert into an MVP and SUPER BOWL winning QB. Herbert is already a great QB and with Harbaugh teaching him, he will now be a QB that knows how to WIN !!
I have herbert as a top 5 qb but how in the world is he underrated? Dude is literally glazed by every media pundint in sports besides Acho the chargers are predicted to win the superbowl or the afc west every year since Herbert got there by every NFL media site
from what I seen from the media pundit, they put him down every chance they get even when he has had a gd game, I think poor coaching and not drafting well so he can have a gd oline and injuries, omg u can't win a game with alot of injuries around you
Ome thing I've noticed watching games as a Chargers fan is how many batted passes he gets. Idk why but it just seemed that he'd have at least 1 batted pass a game and 50% of the time it turned into a pick.
That's because defenses know Chargers are going to throw. They prepare for the throw and put people in place. Chargers had no run game. Early in the season, an analyst said that "Defenses were playing Chargers as if they don't have any RBs, even on run plays"
Along with what everyone else said it was also an issue of receivers struggling to get open and so much of the passing game having to rely on short passes. When the D is prepared for it they're ready to get their hands up quick and dbacks start creeping up closer to the line in a spot to catch those deflections.
honestly i ddint even know justin herbert is GOOD QB till jim come as coach, so i guess he is super underrated. but cant blame anyone his team is so shit nobody really care enough to look
Everything was good, except when you called Mahomes “the greatest to ever do it”. Just can’t disagree more. The guys has been average to below average in every Super Bowl. He’s had an insane amount of help. Haven’t seen him have to be like Brady or Brees or Montana and drag a team to the Super Bowl/ have those big Super Bowl games with multiple clutch throws. Brady had more in the falcons game alone than I’ve seen Mahomes have in every one of his. It’s usually a lot of below average play, then his team puts him back in it. Or he just doesn’t have to do much because his team has carried him along. He’s obviously way up there and great, but he needs to have that big game in a big game.
I think he is top 5 bc there’s only like 4 other QBs that you can argue are better than him but I think he does need to put a really good season together coming up to solidify that.
well if he had players that weren't injured all the time, and him not injured and a better oline and coach yeah he can have a good season. This upcoming season will prove what it will be, also a defense who doesn't let the opponent score alot of points and can stop them scoring at the last minute
The only way mahomes catches Brady is if mahomes goes to another team and wins the super bowl you guys don't seem to understand that Tom Brady's done it with two teams
Lmao he did it when he went to the most talented team in the league at the time. That Tampa team was great. Will Mahomes get 7 SBs? Probably not. But he will definitely get more than he has and he has 3 under 30. He just beat a much better overall 9ers team. Mahomes is the best talent at QB ever. He just doesn't have quite the pedigree of Tom Brady who while great, had a top 10 defense pretty much every year. Mahomes' 2nd Superbowl was the worst Superbowl winning defense in a long time.
Tua has league leading stats and people say that they don't matter so do the stats lie or not ,you are a leaving passer or you are not can't have it both ways, if Herbert had tuas stats they would be crowning him the next great one absurdity
Arguing Tua over Herbert is interesting. Same draft class, but Herbert has almost 5,000 more career passing yards than Tua, averages 40 more passing yards per game than Tua and has thrown 33 more touchdowns than Tua. So clearly the stats don’t lie lol
Herbert’s 2021 season is better than the season Tua just had, the difference is Herbert has never had one of the most creative and innovative offenses we ever seen and only mange’s to put up 7 points in a playoff game
That's definitely not how he started that first game 😂. Tyrod Tayler was set to start that week. An hour before kickoff he had his lung punctured by a needle when they were trying to inject painkiller. Herbert was given a hour notice to start.
No, not an hour notice. ST was lined up for kickoff when he found out. Even Hunter Henry asked why Herbert was on the field in the huddle, because players hadn't heard the news yet.
He had less than 5 minutes notice to start. When he ran out to the first huddle his teammates were shocked. He did all that with no pre-season games played, and he never even practiced with the ones in training camp. He was also just learning how to go under center. What he did was fucking insane.
Herbert is better than Burrow Lamar Allen. Currently the great Justin Herbert has the 3rd most passing yards per game in NFL history. Pretty incredible
How is burrow number 2 😂 stop the foolery it’s Mahomes Lamar Allen Herbert Burrow Herbert and burrow is 1a 1b depending on how they play throughout the season and this is coming from a chargers fan burrow is NOT better than Allen you are trippin 😂
You just lost all credit when you said mahomes is the best to play the position ever know Tom Brady is the goat you need to get over that Tom has seven super bowls little boy has three
Tyrod got stabbed in the r lung by a med staff guy, not broken ribs. Everything else ...true. J10 is a GUY. Harbs and Herbs with the sickness. BOLT UP!!!
His stats say he is just another Philip Rivers.. lol.. That being said, he is lucky he has Harbaugh as a coach now. Jim has a way of hiding the mediocracy in QBs
Phillip will be remembered as the best QBs without a SB appearance. He wasn't some loser. He's equal or better than many of the QBs during his 17 year career that have rings (like Flacco and Wentz). The man was never benched, traded or cut for performance. He left the Chargers because he aged out for them. I don't know how you think Herbert is mediocre. Love and Stroud are getting praise and yet neither broke any of Herbert's rookie records. And Herbert only played 15 games. To be like Herbert, they need to throw 5,000 yards in their second season. W/L is not a QB stat.
Herbert hasn't ever been top 10 in passer rating in any of his 4 seasons in the NFL. He's good, I'll give him top 10 even and say he's worth his contract and a franchise QB. But top 5? No. And I see no reason to expect him to be considered at top 3 guy in 2024 given his current level of play.
He has been 11th, 12th, 12th and 13th in passer rating in his first 4 seasons. In 2020 he was 11th with a passer rating less than a point lower than Patrick Mahomes at the 10th spot. This season he finished 13th, one spot AHEAD of Patrick Mahomes. So by your logic Herbert was BETTER than Mahomes in year where Herbert missed 4 games? Using passer rating as the reason why Herbert isn't a top 5 quarterback is quite misguided. Passer rating is a flawed metric in many cases. It doesn't take into account fumbles, sacks or a QB's rushing production. I would look at QBR instead where Herbert has been in the top 5 in 2 of his 4 seasons, so far. Even in a year where he missed 4 games he was STILL top 5. A climb to a top 3 guy is well within reach, especially given his level of play.
I don’t understand the Herbert hate. He’s done everything right on the field, and off the field he says nothing stupid, does nothing stupid, and has the undying support of every one of his teammates.
Jealousy. Wish he was their qb
They hate him because he's from Oregon. Mariota got the same treatment.
He's too clean. There's a known psicological tendency where the publica likes to see celebrities being dragged down. I imagine it's like that.
He doesn't get the same backlash when he doesn't win. He hasn't won alot empty calories
It’s literally only because people get tired of hearing about how good a QB is when he isn’t on their team. Guy never says anything out of pocket and is locked in when it comes to doing his job, so they have to claw for a reason to dismiss his ability.
Exactly .. Acho is jealous.. Justin is a stud ..precise and strong!
Ong acho be yapping
So is Justin Fields. Just watch his college highlights, then compare them to his NFL ones. *_He_*_ stayed consistent,_ throwing perfectly accurate low-flying missiles that got to their moving targets too quickly to be defended.
His receivers in the NFL were so inept no one _needed to_ defend the. Running non-existent routes because they forgot what they were doing, falling down because putting feet in front of another is a skill they hadn't learned yet or ruclips.net/video/glpaya0xz-4/видео.html his #1 WR literally swatting passes out of the air like he thought they were attacking him.
Those are just the ones that went for INTs. You all _know_ not every time people who trip over their own feet or swat away passes it was an INT. But while no one blames Mahomes for *his receivers deflecting passes for INTs,* Fields got blamed for _his _*_defense not holding leads_* scoring more than any other team in the NFL weeks 8-10 & the Bears losing all 3.
But not one person looks at his actual passing ability & judges him on it the way they do Herbert. I wonder if anyone here _can._
Even seen together with another QB who is far less accurate I find that people still judge on non-talent-related criteria. ruclips.net/video/5JO1PsupF_U/видео.html. I don't expect anything different from this crowd.
Charger fan here. We all knew Justin was truly carrying us by November. He had to play elite level to keep us competitive in games. He got way to much shit after the Cowboy game, but his play wasn't that bad. Our team was that bad when he doesn't play 110%. And then after IR, we all saw how bad our team really was. Justin was making a bottom tier team and average team. We were the AFC Panthers with an elite QB in 2023.
And apparently Ben Johnson would only consider HC for the Chargers, Pete Carroll tried to get the Charger job, Harbaugh came to the Chargers first. Why did all this happen? Justin Herbert.
Herbert is every bit as good as Mahomes, he's just on a worse team. Harbaugh wins wherever he goes, he'll get Herbert the spotlight he deserves.
People saying herb is overrated really need to watch chargers games. He either bails us out and we win, or he still almost does and we lose.
It's so true. How many times does Herbert have to go super saiyan and still lose like he did against the Raiders in '21 and the Lions this year before they realize he can only do so much.
Hopefully Harbaugh can elevate the entire team along with Herbert. Thank you for putting respect on my QB's name!
Harbaugh & Hortiz are going to be busy cleaning up Telesco’s mess! Considering they could use an upgrade almost everywhere across their roster I don’t expect them to completely turn things around in just one season.
@@dandeitch3459 Obviously not but they should make significant progress.
@@abriaangel9986 - I’m sure they will be more competitive next season, but I’m tempering my expectations considering that QB & LT are the only positions they don’t need to address this off-season.
@@dandeitch3459 There's a non zero possibility that much of our roster looks significantly better with proper coaching. I think that may be the toughest job for the incoming staff. How the hell do you evaluate players put in horrible situations all season long due to inept coaching? Does anyone really believe Derwin is suddenly as bad as he looked last season? I definitely want to give the new staff time to implement their system and fill out the roster with their guys though.
@@bmdub - the new coaching staff will help, but they don’t have a lot of talent on either side of the ball. They don’t have many players signed through next season. Trading down would be ideal considering all the areas they need to address.
How he has those stats when the pocket collapses instantaneously is unreal.
Anyone watching should know Herbert a stud who’s really carried a lot of games with crazy throws and bottom 10 OL health/play often, little separation in scheme, playing through some injuries-> toughness.
I was on Tua > Herbert and was instantly taking that back a game or two into his rookie year.
Harbaugh should love this man.
Harbaugh is a gem! I'm most happy for Herbert. And of course the team and us fans. It's been 47 years for me. I think Herbert is the best QB the Chargers have ever had. Yes, I said EVER!
Herbert definitely is the Chargers most talented QB. To stand still with your feet planted and throw over 60 yards… lol That’s a cannon right there. And I’m thinking next season… Herbert will have a career year. Maybe 5,000/45 or more TD’s.
As a Duck fan, I was worried that Herbert would get put in a bad position, but man he has been lighting it up in the pros. A team's win/loss record, while the QB takes a lot of blame, is not solely on him. His stats back that up as you said.
I love this video! We are podcasts that talks about the Los Angeles Chargers football team. It is legitimately shocking to me how often people have talked down Herbert. He is elete! Remember tons of injuries on the offensive side of the ball also. Defense ranked 30th and league. That's all things that Herbert cannot control.
You cant even spell ELITE properly lol Why should we listen to Mr Team No Rings?
@@davidsuarez2950why should we listen to you when you can’t even write a sentence correctly or use punctuation properly?
Run game is a huge problem! Harbaugh will change that narrative immediately!
Thank you for making this video, so many people shit on this guy when he’s a top 3 quarterback in the league on a bottom 5 team
To the Chargers fans from a 49ers fan- you guy’s are going to kick ass with Jim Harbaugh. Remember how much better the 49ers and Alex Smith were in Harbaugh’s first year. This man is going to have Herbert playing to all his strengths!
Justin Herbert pretty much has a .500 record while having the most injury prone offensive cast of any QB and never having a top 20 defense in his career. In Herbert's situation, Mahomes is the only QB in the NFL who would do better than 30-32. Herbert has to win shootouts on an almost weekly basis.
If Herbert was in Burrow's situation, he'd already be a Super Bowl winning QB. In the '22 and '23 playoffs, Burrow had a top 2 WR duo (Chase, Higgins) and his defense never gave up 25+ points over SEVEN playoff games. Keep in mind, the Bengals defense faced the Bills, Chiefs 2x, and the Rams in the Super Bowl...never gave up 25+ points. It's crazy how Burrow is considered top 3 and Herbert is considered overrated.
I honestly question if even Mahomes would do better than 30-32 having to deal with that football terrorist of a coaching staff. The main difference is Mahomes may not have been so quietly supportive of the three ring circus going on around him. I just imagine Mahomes pulling off his amazing game winning drives only to go to the bench every time and watch his D give it right back to end the game.
iN FIRST 50 games, Justin Herbert has set an NFL record with 14 game-winning drives and 11 fourth-quarter comebacks. Meaning he had a game- winning drive 48% of his wins. For context, In the same time frame, Patrick mahomes who has been dubbed the "comeback kid" by some has 6 game-winning drives and 6 fourth-quarter comebacks he has a game winning drive 14% of the of his wins in his first 50 starts. So Herbert in his first 50 starts has 48% chance of game winning drive to mahomes 50 first starts at 14% a whopping 34% difference higher PM **Personally, I have watched his defense lose about 10 others after JH10 drove down and scored, while Mahomes' defense 7TH helped him win his first Super Bowl. Herbert's defense, on the other hand, has consistently ranked 28th, 32nd, 30th, and 27th throughout his career. No quarterback has ever won with a defense ranked that poorly, with the closest being the NY Giants, whose 24th-ranked defense helped them win a Super Bowl.
and look at tthese accomplishments:
NFL Records and Franchise, stc**
1- iN FIRST 50 games, Justin Herbert has set an NFL record with 14 game-winning drives and 11 fourth-quarter comebacks. Meaning he had a game- winning drive 48% of his wins. For context, In the same time frame, Patrick mahomes who has been dubbed sort of a "comeback kid" by some has 6 game-winning drives and 6 fourth-quarter comebacks he has a game winning drive 14% of the of his wins in his first 50 starts. So Herbert in his first 50 starts has 48% chance of game winning drive to mahomes 50 first starts at 14% a whopping 34% difference higher PM ** Personally, I have watched his defense lose about 10 others after JH10 drove down and scored, while Mahomes' defense 7TH helped him win his first Super Bowl. Herbert's defense, on the other hand, has consistently ranked 28th, 32nd, 30th, and 27th throughout his career. No quarterback has ever won with a defense ranked that poorly, with the closest being the NY Giants, whose 24th-ranked defense helped them win a Super Bowl.
2-most 300-yard games in three years, and having 300 during 22 out of 49 games.
3-fastest to 1500 completions
4-ranks second in most touchdowns in his first three years. Additionally,
5-Most games with 300+ passing yards as a rookie (
6-Most consecutive games with 2+ TD passes as a rookie (7)
7-Most games as a rookie with 3+ TD passes (5)
8-Most passes completed by a rookie (396)
9-First rookie in NFL history to have 4 passing TDs in MNF debut
10- First rookie with 2,000+ yards passing and 15+ TD in first 7 starts
11-First rookie with 1,600+ yards passing and 20+ TD in first 9 starts
12-Most passing yards in 1st half of a game since 1991 (277)
13-First player with passing TD and rushing TD in 1st half of NFL debut since 1954
14- Tied for most games with 3 TD passing and 0 INT through 2 seasons 6 (Still had13 games left in 2nd season)
15-First QB to reach 500+ completions before 20th career start ,
16-(Most passing TD as a rookie (31)
17-Herbert passed Hall of Fame quarterback Dan Marino for most passing touchdowns in a player's first two seasons with 69. He's also behind Marino and Kansas City's Patrick Mahomes as the third-youngest player to throw for 5,000-plus yards in a season.
**18- Chargers franchise record for rushing yards in season by qb and for passing yards in season 5014yds
19-Since rookie season, Herbert has 77 scores, the most in a player's first two yrs.
**21-Herbert broke the franchise's single-season pass touchdowns record in Week 17 yr2 21- Herbert set the Chargers' single-season completions (443) records previously held by Hall of Famer Dan Fouts and Rivers, respectively. Herbert ALSO became the only Chargers quarterback to ever throw for 5,000-plus yards in a single season, albeit with one extra game.
**22- The final game of the 2021 regular season also marked the ninth 300-yard passing game from Herbert - another team record. He had three games this season with over 380 yards passing Herbert in second season records shattered i may have mentioned one but second yr records as - Most pass yards in first 2 seasons
23- Justin Herbert's first three years include setting the NFL record for total yards with 14,089, beating previous mark by Andrew Luck 12,956 by over 1000 ys.
24-first player in NFL history to throw at least 30 touchdown passes in each of his first two seasons. He threw for 31 as a rookie 38 2nd season. 69 total passing
25- 85% completion for games with >45 passing attempts #1 in NFL history
26- Most pass TD in first 2 seasons
27-4th player ever 5K-yard season before 25 (Mahomes, Marino, Stafford) Herbert had a passer rating of 96.
28- First rookie in NFL history to throw for four touchdown passes on Monday Night Football
There are even more record Next Page
Had Chargers defense gave up less than 28 Herberts record would be 42-20
***only attributed win for chargers had they scored over the 28 had the defense gave up 28+ and chargers scored less than 28 i kept it an L
HERBERTS 32 LOSSES ONLY 5 CAME FROM GAMES WHERE THE DEFENSE GAVE UP LESS THAN 27
AWARDS
ROSEBOWL MVP(2019)
SENIOR BOWL MVP(2020
William V Cambell Trophey Winner(2019)
3x Academic All-American
PFWA All-Rookie Team
AP Rookie of Year
PFWA NFL Rookie of the Year (2020)
2021 NFL top 100(#56)
2022 NFL top 100(40)
2023 NFL Top 100 (#32)
ROSEBOWL WINNER(2019)
Career Rankings All-Time as of now, some of these will change when his prime is over or as he ages, but still pretty crazy.
NFL ALL-Time Completion % - Tied 3rd (66.8%)
Passes Completed per Game- 1st All-time (26) nxt closest T 2nd Drew Brees, Pat Mahomes(24.9)
Passing Yards Per Game- 3rd all-time 2nd Actice Players(278 pass/ypg)
Passing Completions in Single Season- 3rd all-time(477comps age 24) 1st&2nd Tom Brady Age 44,/485compltions / age 45 490 completions
ALL-Time SINGLE SEASON PASSING YARDS- 15th All Time (5014yds) passing 2021
Career Passer Rating- All-Time 16th 96.1- 7th among Active Players
Pass-Interception % - All-Time tied (2nd-1.7%) Among Active (1st-1.7%) ( **Pat Mahomes/Tom Brady 1.8% 2nd)
@@kev-hu8lh Thanks for those stats. Unfortuately, the casuals and haters will continue to pretend like Herbert isn't an elite QB...but they will see very soon, now that he actually has a competent HC who knows how to win.
I have nothing nice to say about Emanuel Acho.
Thank you no one talks enough about how good he is
I'm curious as to how many late-game leads Herbert directed the Chargers to only to have the defense shit the bed and lose that lead.
He’s played 38 one score games since entering the league (second most), and he’s 18-20 in those. Not sure how many the defense has lost.
well alot and taking that into account after looking at the following is freaking insane to say the least: iN FIRST 50 games, Justin Herbert has set an NFL record with 14 game-winning drives and 11 fourth-quarter comebacks. Meaning he had a game- winning drive 48% of his wins. For context, In the same time frame, Patrick mahomes who has been dubbed a sort of "comeback kid" by some has 6 game-winning drives and 6 fourth-quarter comebacks he has a game winning drive 14% of the of his wins in his first 50 starts. So Herbert in his first 50 starts has 48% chance of game winning drive to mahomes 50 first starts at 14% a whopping 34% difference higher PM ** Personally, I have watched his defense lose about 10 others after JH10 drove down and scored, while Mahomes' defense 7TH helped him win his first Super Bowl. Herbert's defense, on the other hand, has consistently ranked 28th, 32nd, 30th, and 27th throughout his career. No quarterback has ever won with a defense ranked that poorly, with the closest being the NY Giants, whose 24th-ranked defense helped them win a Super Bowl.
Love listening to you and your stats, and seeing the clips of players on the field. Neat!! Bringing those facts out is super important. Keep it going. Great job!
Thank you so much!
Also how many other QBs have to use a silent count at virtually all of their home games? One of the biggest ways Harbaugh can impact this team is by bringing some excitement to LA and putting more Chargers butts in seats.
This video was awesome! Very informative! Love me some Justin! 💛💙💛💙💛💙
Finally someone who has a defending argument to herbie hes mainly the reason im a chargers fan
Thanks for an accurate breakdown, it’ll be a different team next year hopefully where he won’t have to be Superman to win each game
Excellent video 🐐
Thank you so much!
I agree. We still haven't seen the best of Justin Herbert.
I love your videos man. Keep it up
Thank you so much! Will do!
Love Herbert. Dude is fun to watch. Harbaugh is going to win Super Bowls with him. Full Stop.
Being a Herbert fan is frustrating. He is such a special player but his team is holding him back and people overlook him for it. Meanwhile Mahomes has every tool in the toolkit a quarterback could possibly have.
I really hope Harbaugh turns things around.
Very nicely done!! Go Chargers! Acho can suck an egg lol
Herberts a beast !!
hopefully Harbaugh can help that defense. they lost more games for the chargers then i can remember which has made extremely difficult to be a fan after they drafted our home groan boy from Eugene.
Love the content nothing but facts
Is Dane Cook narrating this story lol
Great video!
Thank you!
His ceiling is very high. Here in Philly we have Hurts. His ceiling is nowhere near as high….yet he has been to a SB. That’s football.
i am both a Packers and a Chargers fan, this season i had more expectations for the Chargers to go far while the Packers figure things out. But ironically it took the Chargers meetup for the Packers to figure things out and for the Chargers to completely fall apart. And i have always liked Herbert as a QB. From his background and him being a chargers fan growing up. But at the end of the day football is a team sport and this season showed that the Chargers were not clicking as a team, and a big part of that was the lack of catches and the coaching. Hopefully this next season will be different and we can see some improvements. Either way i am looking forward to next season
Teams with young QBs need to hire Brandon Staley to run their scout team defenses so he can build their confidence like he did for Jordan Love. Then immediately get him away from the team of course.
As soon as they can run the ball effectively things will turn around.
This video needs more views
Justin proved everything to me when he played the raiders a couple seasons ago that guy was amazing when he had to be but everything else has failed around him the defense the coaching has been a f****** joke thank God for Jim harbaugh
good video. Herbert is an elite talent and he will finally have a really good coach.
NFL Records and Franchise**
1- iN FIRST 50 games, Justin Herbert has set an NFL record with 14 game-winning drives and 11 fourth-quarter comebacks. Meaning he had a game- winning drive 48% of his wins. For context, In the same time frame, Patrick mahomes who has been dubbed the "comeback kid" by some has 6 game-winning drives and 6 fourth-quarter comebacks he has a game winning drive 14% of the of his wins in his first 50 starts. So Herbert in his first 50 starts has 48% chance of game winning drive to mahomes 50 first starts at 14% a whopping 34% difference higher PM ** Personally, I have watched his defense lose about 10 others after JH10 drove down and scored, while Mahomes' defense 7TH helped him win his first Super Bowl. Herbert's defense, on the other hand, has consistently ranked 28th, 32nd, 30th, and 27th throughout his career. No quarterback has ever won with a defense ranked that poorly, with the closest being the NY Giants, whose 24th-ranked defense helped them win a Super Bowl.
2-most 300-yard games in three years, and having 300 during 22 out of 49 games.
3-fastest to 1500 completions
4-ranks second in most touchdowns in his first three years. Additionally,
5-Most games with 300+ passing yards as a rookie (
6-Most consecutive games with 2+ TD passes as a rookie (7)
7-Most games as a rookie with 3+ TD passes (5)
8-Most passes completed by a rookie (396)
9-First rookie in NFL history to have 4 passing TDs in MNF debut
10- First rookie with 2,000+ yards passing and 15+ TD in first 7 starts
11-First rookie with 1,600+ yards passing and 20+ TD in first 9 starts
12-Most passing yards in 1st half of a game since 1991 (277)
13-First player with passing TD and rushing TD in 1st half of NFL debut since 1954
14- Tied for most games with 3 TD passing and 0 INT through 2 seasons 6 (Still had13 games left in 2nd season)
15-First QB to reach 500+ completions before 20th career start ,
16-(Most passing TD as a rookie (31)
17-Herbert passed Hall of Fame quarterback Dan Marino for most passing touchdowns in a player's first two seasons with 69. He's also behind Marino and Kansas City's Patrick Mahomes as the third-youngest player to throw for 5,000-plus yards in a season.
**18- Chargers franchise record for rushing yards in season by qb and for passing yards in season 5014yds
19-Since rookie season, Herbert has 77 scores, the most in a player's first two yrs.
**21-Herbert broke the franchise's single-season pass touchdowns record in Week 17 yr2 21- Herbert set the Chargers' single-season completions (443) records previously held by Hall of Famer Dan Fouts and Rivers, respectively. Herbert ALSO became the only Chargers quarterback to ever throw for 5,000-plus yards in a single season, albeit with one extra game.
**22- The final game of the 2021 regular season also marked the ninth 300-yard passing game from Herbert - another team record. He had three games this season with over 380 yards passing Herbert in second season records shattered i may have mentioned one but second yr records as - Most pass yards in first 2 seasons
23- Justin Herbert's first three years include setting the NFL record for total yards with 14,089, beating previous mark by Andrew Luck 12,956 by over 1000 ys.
24-first player in NFL history to throw at least 30 touchdown passes in each of his first two seasons. He threw for 31 as a rookie 38 2nd season. 69 total passing
25- 85% completion for games with >45 passing attempts #1 in NFL history
26- Most pass TD in first 2 seasons
27-4th player ever 5K-yard season before 25 (Mahomes, Marino, Stafford) Herbert had a passer rating of 96.
28- First rookie in NFL history to throw for four touchdown passes on Monday Night Football
There are even more record Next Page
Had Chargers defense gave up less than 28 Herberts record would be 42-20
***only attributed win for chargers had they scored over the 28 had the defense gave up 28+ and chargers scored less than 28 i kept it an L
HERBERTS 32 LOSSES ONLY 5 CAME FROM GAMES WHERE THE DEFENSE GAVE UP LESS THAN 27
AWARDS
ROSEBOWL MVP(2019)
SENIOR BOWL MVP(2020
William V Cambell Trophey Winner(2019)
3x Academic All-American
PFWA All-Rookie Team
AP Rookie of Year
PFWA NFL Rookie of the Year (2020)
2021 NFL top 100(#56)
2022 NFL top 100(40)
2023 NFL Top 100 (#32)
ROSEBOWL WINNER(2019)
Career Rankings All-Time
NFL ALL-Time Completion % - Tied 3rd (66.8%)
Passes Completed per Game- 1st All-time (26) nxt closest T 2nd Drew Brees, Pat Mahomes(24.9)
Passing Yards Per Game- 3rd all-time 2nd Actice Players(278 pass/ypg)
Passing Completions in Single Season- 3rd all-time(477comps age 24) 1st&2nd Tom Brady Age 44,/485compltions / age 45 490 completions
ALL-Time SINGLE SEASON PASSING YARDS- 15th All Time (5014yds) passing 2021
Career Passer Rating- All-Time 16th 96.1- 7th among Active Players
Pass-Interception % - All-Time tied (2nd-1.7%) Among Active (1st-1.7%) ( **Pat Mahomes/Tom Brady 1.8% 2nd)
What really sucks is that the analysts on these sport platforms are former NFL players mostly the QB ‘s. These guys hat on Justin Herbert. They hate on on him because they “SUCKED” when they were active players. He doesn’t get the respect that he truly deserves. Justin is way better than Tua and is more consistent that Burrow. Yet he gets criticized.. Justin with the help of Harbsugh is going to show his fully potential if what he can do.
Justin had a lot of help initially but he has really grown this past year without it.
Great QB, doesn't get credit because ppl think " winning" is all in the QB. When it isn't a QB stat, never was his fault chargers lost. Bad coaching, bad defenses. JH will make him a winner
dude. great video
Every successful NFL team has a running game that can control the clock when needed ever so often. The team also has a defense that can make plays to stop the apposing team every once in a while. The Chargers have not had either of those since Justin Herbert arrived and he still killed stats. Do not worry Charger fans...the winning is coming soon :). GO CHARGERS!!
All these so-called experts who get paid to give an opinion are full of it sometimes. Like Acho. Everything that comes out of his mouth about Justin is negative. I get it you make these types of shows to give us football content everyday that's not game day etc..just not fair for Herbert. All the hate and this kid is nothing but nice and humble to everyone. I guarantee if the chargers had an average defense his career record as a starter would not be below .500
Time to put the Acho stats on the Jumbotron.
Its because people had so many bad takes and bad process scouting him coming out. The only difference with this and the Josh Allen hate is that Josh team has made the playoffs so many times but both guys have to deal with the same hubris from know it alls.
The Chargers need to protect him better. Watching him run around and drop dimes is fun but that's shouldn't be the norm. When the defense gets fixed he'll have more wins. But WORST CASE SCENARIO! Chargers get everything in line for 2024 and Herbie gets injured in Week 1 or 2. Oline needs to be fixed!!!!
I agree Justin Herbert is at least 5 QB and he needs a good coach
No...actually ...
He HAS one
SPOT ON
Herbert’s done more than anyone could ask for. He’s broken all time passing records. Only knock on him is he hasn’t won anything important. That’s hardly his fault, his defense has been terrible. He doesn’t play defense though. He can only control what he does passing the ball, and again, he’s been so good he’s broken all time records. What more can he do.
Anyone who isn't a clickbait merchant, Tua Stan or Troll admits this already. The problem is the aforementioned group is the loudest and tries to control the narrative...
Yeah, I actually work in pro sports R&D-different sports but seasoned evaluator with the math and with the gut feel. And Herbert is head and shoulders above any QB in the league aside from Pat Mahomes and Josh Allen. Jackson isn’t even close, like Purdy, Tua, Goff, Hurts, he’s a good quarterback with a great system, who fits his coach’s system and game plan well. He just looks and plays differently, and his system operates differently.
Herbert, Allen, Mahomes, and soon-probably Stroud-have the arms, ball control, and IQ to tear apart virtually any defense they encounter with minimal support. Their legs are as valuable to their passing games as it is to their running game. They present far more problems for the opposing defense to cover than anyone else.
If were to do it analytically, you’d control for the amount of support their teams give them, and isolate the factors they actually control when evaluating and projecting their performance. Herbert is able to drive down the field, even with minimal support in blocking, running or even receiving. His arm, IQ, processing speed, accuracy and body control help him make a wider variety of throws than anyone besides Allen and Mahomes. His athleticism, size and speed make him elusive and keeps the defense honest. If you have him even a decent pocket, his tools eliminates a chunk of defensive players from being effective against him.
This generation, it’s Mahomes, Allen, Herbert and probably Stroud who are the real talents who can and will win anywhere.
I'd trade Dak for Justin all day long and twice on Sunday.🙂
Hopefully Harbaugh gets the O-line to protect JH10 and creates a solid run game to support their franchise QB. He'll bring home the hardware. Just protect him.
Don’t worry Chargers fans. You now have one of the greatest HCs in football history. You now have the guy that is going to turn Justin Herbert into an MVP and SUPER BOWL winning QB. Herbert is already a great QB and with Harbaugh teaching him, he will now be a QB that knows how to WIN !!
I have herbert as a top 5 qb but how in the world is he underrated? Dude is literally glazed by every media pundint in sports besides Acho the chargers are predicted to win the superbowl or the afc west every year since Herbert got there by every NFL media site
from what I seen from the media pundit, they put him down every chance they get even when he has had a gd game, I think poor coaching and not drafting well so he can have a gd oline and injuries, omg u can't win a game with alot of injuries around you
Facts!!!
The glaze on Mahomes at the start xD
I’m a Bills fan, trust me, that line hurt to say. I gotta give credit where credit is due tho unfortunately 🙄
Man… where’s Phil Rivers? 🥺
Tyrod had a punctured lung from a golf tee
High draft Money, 4th place schedule, they got a good chance at a Wildcard spot
Someone send this video to Acho
Ome thing I've noticed watching games as a Chargers fan is how many batted passes he gets. Idk why but it just seemed that he'd have at least 1 batted pass a game and 50% of the time it turned into a pick.
Because the D line is getting on him quick.
@@nalcon1 he didnt have that problem though early in his career. specially in his rookie season when he had defenders on his face
That's because defenses know Chargers are going to throw. They prepare for the throw and put people in place. Chargers had no run game. Early in the season, an analyst said that "Defenses were playing Chargers as if they don't have any RBs, even on run plays"
No run game, O line made out of paper mache' and no confidence in your coach will do that to a guy.
Thanks for noticing, tho.
Along with what everyone else said it was also an issue of receivers struggling to get open and so much of the passing game having to rely on short passes. When the D is prepared for it they're ready to get their hands up quick and dbacks start creeping up closer to the line in a spot to catch those deflections.
honestly i ddint even know justin herbert is GOOD QB till jim come as coach, so i guess he is super underrated. but cant blame anyone his team is so shit nobody really care enough to look
Everything was good, except when you called Mahomes “the greatest to ever do it”. Just can’t disagree more. The guys has been average to below average in every Super Bowl. He’s had an insane amount of help. Haven’t seen him have to be like Brady or Brees or Montana and drag a team to the Super Bowl/ have those big Super Bowl games with multiple clutch throws. Brady had more in the falcons game alone than I’ve seen Mahomes have in every one of his. It’s usually a lot of below average play, then his team puts him back in it. Or he just doesn’t have to do much because his team has carried him along. He’s obviously way up there and great, but he needs to have that big game in a big game.
I think he is top 5 bc there’s only like 4 other QBs that you can argue are better than him but I think he does need to put a really good season together coming up to solidify that.
well if he had players that weren't injured all the time, and him not injured and a better oline and coach yeah he can have a good season. This upcoming season will prove what it will be, also a defense who doesn't let the opponent score alot of points and can stop them scoring at the last minute
Lamar is becoming more effective from the pocket every year. Being a running QB delayed his pocket passing skill development.
The only way mahomes catches Brady is if mahomes goes to another team and wins the super bowl you guys don't seem to understand that Tom Brady's done it with two teams
Lmao he did it when he went to the most talented team in the league at the time. That Tampa team was great. Will Mahomes get 7 SBs? Probably not. But he will definitely get more than he has and he has 3 under 30. He just beat a much better overall 9ers team. Mahomes is the best talent at QB ever. He just doesn't have quite the pedigree of Tom Brady who while great, had a top 10 defense pretty much every year. Mahomes' 2nd Superbowl was the worst Superbowl winning defense in a long time.
Tua has league leading stats and people say that they don't matter so do the stats lie or not ,you are a leaving passer or you are not can't have it both ways, if Herbert had tuas stats they would be crowning him the next great one absurdity
Arguing Tua over Herbert is interesting. Same draft class, but Herbert has almost 5,000 more career passing yards than Tua, averages 40 more passing yards per game than Tua and has thrown 33 more touchdowns than Tua. So clearly the stats don’t lie lol
Herbert’s 2021 season is better than the season Tua just had, the difference is Herbert has never had one of the most creative and innovative offenses we ever seen and only mange’s to put up 7 points in a playoff game
The most glazed QB ever. Done nothing but gets nothing but praise.
Chargers shouldn’t have left San Diego
what does that have todo with the video?
@@Sidefall77 everything
SD couldn't get us a stadium. SD had it's chance. LA is where championships are won anyway.
@@Itsreload Chargers home games have more away fans then they do home fans.
"ACHO BUT"......
That's definitely not how he started that first game 😂. Tyrod Tayler was set to start that week. An hour before kickoff he had his lung punctured by a needle when they were trying to inject painkiller. Herbert was given a hour notice to start.
No, not an hour notice. ST was lined up for kickoff when he found out. Even Hunter Henry asked why Herbert was on the field in the huddle, because players hadn't heard the news yet.
He had less than 5 minutes notice to start. When he ran out to the first huddle his teammates were shocked. He did all that with no pre-season games played, and he never even practiced with the ones in training camp. He was also just learning how to go under center. What he did was fucking insane.
Yeah y'all right it was a moments notice
Acho. Is a p s
1. Mahomes
2. Burrow
3. Lamar
4. Allen
5. Herbert
Herbert is better than Burrow Lamar Allen. Currently the great Justin Herbert has the 3rd most passing yards per game in NFL history. Pretty incredible
@@dontblink3042 idk bout all that😂😂😂
Burrow and Lamar aren’t above Allen
How is burrow number 2 😂 stop the foolery it’s
Mahomes
Lamar
Allen
Herbert
Burrow
Herbert and burrow is 1a 1b depending on how they play throughout the season and this is coming from a chargers fan burrow is NOT better than Allen you are trippin 😂
@@adrenaline6198 I respect your list
Acho is a clown
Wait… mahomes is already the goat above Tom Brady? How many rings? Lmfao
Tom Brady is the greatest. Mahomes has to do it over the long term.
😂AOC12, won just as many playoff games as Your QB
He just hasn’t had a good coach. Let’s hope Harbaugh turns that around!
You just lost all credit when you said mahomes is the best to play the position ever know Tom Brady is the goat you need to get over that Tom has seven super bowls little boy has three
Haters make him famous 😂at least he doesn't have band wagon hoppers like mahomes just one reason I can't stand kc fans
☝️ *promo sm*
Tyrod got stabbed in the r lung by a med staff guy, not broken ribs.
Everything else ...true.
J10 is a GUY.
Harbs and Herbs with the sickness.
BOLT UP!!!
He fractured his ribs, then the doctor punctured his lung giving him a pain (relief) injection.
His stats say he is just another Philip Rivers.. lol.. That being said, he is lucky he has Harbaugh as a coach now. Jim has a way of hiding the mediocracy in QBs
Phillip will be remembered as the best QBs without a SB appearance. He wasn't some loser. He's equal or better than many of the QBs during his 17 year career that have rings (like Flacco and Wentz). The man was never benched, traded or cut for performance. He left the Chargers because he aged out for them.
I don't know how you think Herbert is mediocre. Love and Stroud are getting praise and yet neither broke any of Herbert's rookie records. And Herbert only played 15 games. To be like Herbert, they need to throw 5,000 yards in their second season. W/L is not a QB stat.
Rivers was no joke. And Herbert is better than
Criminally overrated
Care to elaborate? Sincerely, i'd love to hear your reasons.
Herbert hasn't ever been top 10 in passer rating in any of his 4 seasons in the NFL. He's good, I'll give him top 10 even and say he's worth his contract and a franchise QB. But top 5? No. And I see no reason to expect him to be considered at top 3 guy in 2024 given his current level of play.
He has been 11th, 12th, 12th and 13th in passer rating in his first 4 seasons. In 2020 he was 11th with a passer rating less than a point lower than Patrick Mahomes at the 10th spot. This season he finished 13th, one spot AHEAD of Patrick Mahomes. So by your logic Herbert was BETTER than Mahomes in year where Herbert missed 4 games? Using passer rating as the reason why Herbert isn't a top 5 quarterback is quite misguided. Passer rating is a flawed metric in many cases. It doesn't take into account fumbles, sacks or a QB's rushing production. I would look at QBR instead where Herbert has been in the top 5 in 2 of his 4 seasons, so far. Even in a year where he missed 4 games he was STILL top 5. A climb to a top 3 guy is well within reach, especially given his level of play.
Psht. Philip Rivers 2.0.
PR records with rings! I'll take that.
When your team actually gets a QB, pedro...
You let us know