Suspension 101 // Adjustments, Settings & Tips // Talaria Sting R + Surron X + Ebike

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024

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  • @asap_n8
    @asap_n8 Год назад +23

    For anyone skimming through the comments... here's my current set up for someone who's 6'2" and 180 lbs. Hope this helps someone get on the right track.
    Front
    Preload (0-10): 4
    Rebound (0-14): 9
    Rear
    Compression/Preload (0-20): 8
    Rebound (0-18): 10

    • @BarcombeBoy
      @BarcombeBoy Год назад +1

      You are the same weight as me and I'm amazed you find the stock Talaria rear shock sufficient. I bottom mine out almost every time I use the bike, and as mine is an adapted road legal TL45 I've broken the number plate on the road and just now the plastic thing it fits to. :-(.
      I'm wondering if you might have any advice? How comes yours is OK for you? I've already would the spring up a fair bit to try and sort out the problem.

    • @philippebeaudoin5750
      @philippebeaudoin5750 2 месяца назад +1

      thanks for that! im 6'2 about 195lbs soo u just might save me a lot of time haha

  • @tommcgill1671
    @tommcgill1671 Год назад +13

    WoW school is out for summer. And proFessor Josh runs a suspension class,
    thanks again for all the TIP & tricks for us late to the party riders.
    Tomorrow at the crack of NooN I pull my MX4 in the house and dial this video up again.
    Starting at all midpoints 195 lbs and a short 6ft.
    Lets Ride!

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +1

      Glad to help! Hope you enjoy your bike!! 🤙🏽🤙🏽

    • @tommcgill1671
      @tommcgill1671 Год назад +1

      @@freerfixedit so feekon stoked to ride

    • @robnaugle4149
      @robnaugle4149 5 месяцев назад

      on the contrary, the party's just getting started.

  • @crazychicken278
    @crazychicken278 Год назад +23

    Hey man, check under the right side 19mm hex cap for the air valve. Take the front wheel off first it’s easier to unscrew the cap. Under the cap is a Schraeder valve which inflates the damper side air bladder, these forks are actually a spring in oil fork. Spring is on left side w/preload adjustment and then the damper is on the right side. Think of the spring weight and preload as your initial/mid travel tuning and the air bladder as your mid/bottom tuning. You can get more into tuning by changing the wt of the fork oil but the air bladder lets us fine tune the amount of progression and bottom out resistance. It’s nice because it acts kind of like a progressive compression adjustment. My fork shipped at 85 psi from the factory which I felt was a little low so I bumped it up to 125 and the front end feels much better now. Luna said they recommend 100-125 depending on rider weight and how aggressively they ride. 👍🏼

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +4

      Ah awesome! Okay I thought it was under that 19mm but it was super tight and I wanted to be sure before I loosened it. Thanks for writing that as well, very helpful! I’ll get a gauge on mine and see where it’s at. If I’m not mistaken isn’t the max recommended psi for this fork 150psi?

    • @crazychicken278
      @crazychicken278 Год назад +3

      @@freerfixedit that’s what I thought as well, but I emailed Luna to double check and they said 100-125. You might be able to go up to 150 but I didn’t want to risk it at first.

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +2

      @@spunkysandoval that’s what I was afraid of… did you unscrew the right side like he said?

    • @crazychicken278
      @crazychicken278 Год назад +3

      @@spunkysandoval just to be totally clear. My comment is in regards to the latest Talaria Sting R with the updated factory fork purchased from Luna Cycles-not the factory fork you can buy aftermarket or on older stings. This new version doesn’t have a compression knob underneath the right leg (riders perspective) of the fork. Instead there’s a black 19mm hex that when unscrewed reveals an air valve that is used to fill up an air bladder in the damper. This lets you tune bottom out “compression”.

    • @MotoAlias
      @MotoAlias Год назад

      Dnm forks use 150psi

  • @theosaurus6972
    @theosaurus6972 6 месяцев назад +6

    Just as one of the people said here already, you got the whole rebound thing wrong. The + means more rebound dampening and - means less. When you turn the rebound knob clockwise it pushes the rebound rod closer to the primary rebound oil channel thus making the channel smaller and restricting oil flow and in effect slowing down the rebound. This is how essentially rebound works on any fork...

  • @user-bt1mu4hg3l
    @user-bt1mu4hg3l Год назад +3

    you are the best guy on youtube for Talaria videos. Thanks for all your good info .

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +1

      Thanks for the kind words! Much appreciated! 🤝

  • @salami99
    @salami99 8 месяцев назад +4

    Freer, I found out how to pump the Front shocks and rear shock. in the front remove the black hex bolts on the bottom of the forks, inside will be valve steam, use valve stem extenders to attach to pump, pump up to 150 PSI. the rear has it under the rear shock, idk if it nitrogen.

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  8 месяцев назад +1

      Doesn’t one side of the fork have oil in it? And the rear is nitrogen

    • @salami99
      @salami99 8 месяцев назад

      yes. left is a spring, right is air and oil. rear is nitrogen.@@freerfixedit

  • @joselopez535
    @joselopez535 11 дней назад +1

    Thank you !

  • @philippebeaudoin5750
    @philippebeaudoin5750 2 месяца назад +1

    This video deserve a lot more views! some really good job! thx a lot

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  2 месяца назад +1

      Really appreciate the feedback! Glad it helped!

  • @YouMotorcycle
    @YouMotorcycle 7 дней назад +1

    Great video

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  7 дней назад +2

      @@YouMotorcycle appreciate you! 🤝

  • @Itsnotthatdeep1
    @Itsnotthatdeep1 9 месяцев назад +2

    Had no idea how it worked, thank you g

  • @mikebretzel
    @mikebretzel Год назад +6

    thank you for this!

  • @pcicecube
    @pcicecube Год назад +5

    🎉 good videos - I like the explanations, tech, experience from riding 🎉 nice job

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +1

      Thanks for the feedback! I appreciate it! 🤝

  • @ItsJustHenry
    @ItsJustHenry 11 дней назад +1

    Good vid. Earned my sub.

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  11 дней назад +1

      @@ItsJustHenry appreciate you 🤝

  • @trevin1691
    @trevin1691 Год назад +2

    Nice shock tutorial 👍 those shocks look identical to the new x talaria...

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +1

      Thank you! I believe they are the same factory forks on both bikes!

  • @realkidcarter
    @realkidcarter Год назад +1

    brotha lookiing drippy, i can tell you're having fun with this youtube thing lmao

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +1

      Haha thanks brother 😎🤙🏽

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +1

      just watched your airsoft vids! good stuff man

  • @salami99
    @salami99 Год назад +2

    U taught me alot here thanks!

  • @TWD234
    @TWD234 Год назад +1

    This is a huge help to get my talaria suspension tuning setup for my fat a** 😂. Great info!

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +1

      Thanks! Appreciate you and glad I can help! If you ever have a ? Or need anything, don’t hesitate to reach out in the comments. I try to reply to everyone!

  • @jrider-x7t
    @jrider-x7t 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the vid, much needed info for me. Unfortunately, I think I snapped the air out bolt on the left side of front fork. I was letting the air out, then tightening it and barely put any force into it and now the bolt is spinning freely. Is it a big deal? I think that it is still airtight

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  11 месяцев назад +2

      Could try putting some teflon plumbers tape on there to give it some more bite in the threads. I know it’s a tiny screw and will be a pain in the ass, it worth a shot. Or maybe some liquid gasket idk. As long as it’s air tight

  • @_nayan
    @_nayan Год назад +3

    this is great 🔥

  • @jeffreymuffins1016
    @jeffreymuffins1016 Год назад +2

    I only have 12 clicks on my rear shocks rebound on my talaria sting mx4

  • @myrxorax9290
    @myrxorax9290 Год назад +3

    Great vid❤

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +1

      Thank you so much! Really appreciate that!

  • @datruth1293
    @datruth1293 Год назад +2

    Good shit! Subscribed

  • @user-td5dq6ge5m
    @user-td5dq6ge5m Год назад +3

    Awesome bro, mine comes in tomorrow I’m just gonna use ur settings

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +1

      Let me know how it feels compared to out of the box! Helped the rear shock a lot for me

  • @miguel360kmc
    @miguel360kmc Год назад +1

    I have a ⁉️ question ⁉️
    How to adjust seemingly crooked forks. I have the 2023 mx4 factory forks. Brand new only days old
    I believe my forks are off center to the right the ride doesn't feel stable hands off the bars and bike merges right fast 😨. To the eye its hard to tell. I'm running a wake adjustable stem for the moment, I do have a direct stem mount coming in the mail later today and that's going straight on. Hopefully that will fix the issue but if it doesn't and one of the fork tubes is off center or whatever I'm unsure how to figure which one and in what way..
    Last night I loosen both crowns and did my best to straighten it out adjusted the stem it looks good rides a tiny bit better but still it's off. Sucks I can't really ride over 40mph 😅

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад

      That’s strange! I was gonna say see if the fork tubes are twisted slightly in the clamps but if you loosened the crowns and adjusted, they should be straight. Hopefully the direct mount stem helps! I just put mine on yesterday and I like it a lot

  • @garrettjohnston7705
    @garrettjohnston7705 Год назад +1

    I only have the red and blue adjustments on the front of the bike. Where are they for the read that you’re talking about?

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +1

      Top and bottom of rear shock should have red and blue adjustment as well!

  • @6sta
    @6sta 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you 🤠

  • @realkidcarter
    @realkidcarter Год назад +1

    Hey bro, I just got my bike today and i cant seem to move my preload at all, the blue one. It just does maybe 2 turns and its really hard then just stops

  • @375Cheytac
    @375Cheytac Год назад

    A little bit late, but I want to lower the bike approx 2 inches - would I be able to achieve that by adjusting the suspension?
    From your video it sounds like adjusting pre load would be the best place to start. If I dropped it all the way down to 0, would it potentially damage my shocks?

  • @James-fh9zd
    @James-fh9zd Год назад +1

    Good job...the content is good. Any plans for a Supermoto build?

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +1

      I’ve got all the plans lol… I just don’t got all the money 🤣 slowly but surely I’m going to mod this thing to the moon

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +1

      And thanks!

  • @curbwhiz2010
    @curbwhiz2010 4 месяца назад +1

    Good shit bro. Subscribed.

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  3 месяца назад +1

      Appreciate that! Thanks! 🤙🏽

  • @miguel360kmc
    @miguel360kmc Год назад +1

    What about the red knob at the bottom of the rear shock

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +1

      It’s the rebound adjuster. I go over my settings on the rear at 09:10 , it just adjusts how fast or slow your suspension recoils after being compressed

  • @BarkingStarDawg
    @BarkingStarDawg Год назад +1

    good video, how did you get the gritshift light on the mx4? im struggling because its a different connector

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +1

      So, they haven't started making switches with the square connector yet. What you can do is purchase the square connector here amzn.to/46juEe4 and re-pin the switch to the square connector. Heres a link to a good video showing how to do it ruclips.net/video/3A4DWnN9LcY/видео.html Looks pretty simple!

    • @BarkingStarDawg
      @BarkingStarDawg Год назад +1

      @@freerfixedit Thankyou! Love the channel, extremely under rated wish you all the best in future 🙏🏽

  • @TheBalls2thewalls
    @TheBalls2thewalls Год назад +2

    Thanks for the video!

  • @BalanceOvOpposites
    @BalanceOvOpposites Месяц назад

    Luna sells an "upgraded" fork with a 50lb spring instead of the 30sonethjng that's in the stock fork. How does that change it? Does that seem like a good upgrade?

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Месяц назад +1

      @@BalanceOvOpposites I would go with the fast ace

    • @BalanceOvOpposites
      @BalanceOvOpposites Месяц назад

      @@freerfixedit yeah it's a fast ace 2.0 but it has an option of a heavier spring. Comes with 30something unless you choose 50lb and there's a choice for 60lb

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Месяц назад

      @@BalanceOvOpposites look into the people the tune those forks. I’ve heard good things. The Luna upgrade is a good place to start tho

  • @colbyleatham247
    @colbyleatham247 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the video! How much do you weigh and what's your height? Great questions to for a first date :) I got the new Sting R as well and my bike feels chunky

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +1

      I’m 6’ bout 185lbs

    • @colbyleatham247
      @colbyleatham247 Год назад +1

      @@freerfixedit Awesome! Same as me... Going to copy your adjustments and see how I like it 🤙

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +1

      @@colbyleatham247 let me know! I like it for the bumpy rooted trails, but I may stiffen it up a bit once I start sending bigger jumps

  • @chrisjowaisas95
    @chrisjowaisas95 11 месяцев назад

    The newer Sting R's have pretty stiff suspension stock.. I'm only 150 pounds.... does anyone have any advice on how to soften it beyond these tips on here? Like, is there a decent aftermarket spring I could get for the rear?

  • @PeterPiccolo
    @PeterPiccolo Год назад +1

    can u air pump up the front fork to setup suspension on the front??

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +2

      Yes, I’ve been told it’s on the bottom side of the right fork leg, under the 19mm cap

  • @Adj.24
    @Adj.24 Год назад +2

    My forks won’t rebound they just stay down.? Unless I physically pull them up

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +3

      Somethings not right… we’re they doing that out of the box or did you change the settings?

    • @Adj.24
      @Adj.24 Год назад +2

      @@freerfixedit I’ve been riding it for 6-7 months and this has only just happened.. I don’t know. It has like a tiny rebound but it doesn’t go all the way back and they feel stiff for some reason.

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +2

      @@Adj.24 idk about the older style forks or their adjustments, but sounds like you’ve lost psi in the air side maybe. Can you see where the valve is to put air in the fork and put a pressure gauge on it to see what psi is in the forks currently?

  • @portnuefflyer
    @portnuefflyer Год назад +1

    Good vid, but left, right? Why not clock and counter clock wise next time, to indicate rotation?!

    • @kalaikealohi4361
      @kalaikealohi4361 10 месяцев назад

      Nigga shatup and make your own video then

  • @Smilldon
    @Smilldon Год назад +1

    What about the little blue knob on the bottom of the front right fork?

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +2

      I don’t have one. I’ve seen photos of what you’re referring to, but the bottom of both fork legs have a 19mm hex cap

    • @Smilldon
      @Smilldon Год назад +1

      @@freerfixedit any idea what it does?

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +1

      @@Smilldon I don’t. Might say on the adjuster, but I’ve only ever seen it in photos of the aftermarket talaria “factory forks” you can purchase online

  • @jasonsierchio1167
    @jasonsierchio1167 Год назад +1

    I have 18 clicks of adjustment on my rebound

  • @jedi36mindtricks
    @jedi36mindtricks Год назад +1

    Left is actually Lucy

  • @korneliusthegrey4923
    @korneliusthegrey4923 Год назад +2

    Good stuff.

  • @classahalimaw4606
    @classahalimaw4606 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanksman

  • @Dylanfrmmaui
    @Dylanfrmmaui Год назад +1

    What power upgrades would you put on your talaria sting r

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +4

      If money were no issue I’d like to get a bac 4000 controller and a 72v battery

    • @AdventureContinuesAgain
      @AdventureContinuesAgain Год назад +2

      @@freerfixedit At 8000 watts, do you really need more power??? Granted im only 155 lbs but I have never felt like I need more power with the R. You can switch the chain to non O ring, that helps a little. My bike goes 55mph. Climbs hills like a goat. Faster and lighter than my friends KLX 140. I guess if you switch to a more aggressive and wider tires, and you are a heavier rider, you might need more power.

    • @mconradb
      @mconradb 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@AdventureContinuesAgainAlways need more power.

  • @AlexWasnt_Here
    @AlexWasnt_Here Год назад +1

    We are same same but different

  • @johnwilkes8847
    @johnwilkes8847 Год назад +1

    Hey man, I recently left the military to go back to school so I had to sell my dirtbike. I kept my mountain bike but it gets no use and just discovered the surron and talaria hype, so now I'm strongly considering selling my mtb to get one. Do you have any regrets? Would you have bough any other bike knowing what you know now? Is there any mandatory mods you suggest or will I have a blast out of the box?

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +4

      Bro sell the mtn bike and do it. I have a 22 crf 450 in the garage collecting dust cause all I do is ride this now 😂 zero regret!

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +3

      The stock pegs are garbage, and get the shimano brake pads. Really all I’ve done to it in a month

    • @florianleinfellner9323
      @florianleinfellner9323 Год назад +1

      Got a Wr426f also collecting dust , cause iv'e got a Triple discus Prolaps ! Bern thinking bout a E- Downhill Bike .... But when 1000€ gets me a Talaria or surron.....No brainer😅

    • @PeterPiccolo
      @PeterPiccolo Год назад +2

      u def have to cut the limiter wire unless u wanna top out at 25 mph.. after I cut im hitting 50mph on flat.. also you def want to get wide pegs, and if you are a taller person you will find that bars with the 3" rise will feel a lot better..
      oh and final mod you will appreciate after the install is the odi downhill plate, u can clean up the wires and run them behind the plate and it is significantly larger and much more heavy duty than the paper thin stocker

    • @gregsanford3848
      @gregsanford3848 6 месяцев назад

      Talaria sting r mx4 is value for money, out of the box, 😊😊😊😊 ever increasing popularity comes standard with upgrades the surron does not have

  • @anthony.catalano
    @anthony.catalano Год назад

    Why do you have it torn down?

  • @zuNNaman
    @zuNNaman 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks now let’s ridee

  • @realkidcarter
    @realkidcarter Год назад

    Im 240 pounds 6 foot so im just gonna copy your setup tbh and see how it feels

    • @realkidcarter
      @realkidcarter Год назад +1

      just copied them it feels good

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад

      @@realkidcarter happy to hear it 🤙🏽

    • @realkidcarter
      @realkidcarter Год назад +1

      @@freerfixedit Just got back about an hour ago, feels pretty mint. I was sending some pretty big jumps and it was alright

  • @gurmukhbinning399
    @gurmukhbinning399 Год назад

    Just got my talaria and my preload knob is not turning. It is super tight and I can’t seem to twist it with grip strength. Am I doing something wrong?

  • @cpzmaf5698
    @cpzmaf5698 Год назад +1

    Are you suronster?

  • @monkeyracer2566
    @monkeyracer2566 Год назад +4

    Sorry dude but you got that the wrong way around. In you ’unscrew’ the rebound to the -ve then you let less rebound dampening meaning it rebounds or returns quicker. +ve (dampening) or screwing it in means the rebound valve closes and it returns slower. Like the vid though. 👍

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +1

      Well, in this case, I moved the adjustment heavily in the “-“ direction and it slowed the rebound and gave me the effect I was looking for

    • @Fratelli88
      @Fratelli88 Год назад +1

      You are correct. Counterclockwise will speed up your rebound abs going all the way in will slow it down.

    • @chrisjowaisas95
      @chrisjowaisas95 11 месяцев назад +2

      Wait now I am totally confused.... slower rebound is clockwise?

  • @Ashes3333
    @Ashes3333 2 месяца назад +1

    Get a marker man . After all that effort fook a marker let u down .

  • @beyourself4450
    @beyourself4450 Год назад +1

    He say lucifer? Lol wth

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +4

      😂 just go with it

    • @beyourself4450
      @beyourself4450 Год назад +1

      So if you could start over would you buy another sting? Lol

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  Год назад +1

      @@beyourself4450 yeah I would. No regrets so far

    • @portnuefflyer
      @portnuefflyer Год назад +1

      @@freerfixedit I'm riding my R with a 60 T, and in eco mode it is so gutless, even with the 60 T, it's a joke. So, sport has all the power, for sure, but I wish the eco mode wasn't so wimpy, there's a huge spread between eco and sport. When climbing steep scree I like a powerful eco, not a wheel spinning super touchy sport throttle. Former Sur Ron rider here, I liked it's spread (stock controller) between sport and eco better, so far.

  • @dlpeace
    @dlpeace Год назад

    Can you do a better explanation without using the board? Just use the bike can’t really see what you’re drawing.

  • @aliabraham6362
    @aliabraham6362 Год назад

    😡 P R O M O S M

  • @MotoJB
    @MotoJB 4 месяца назад

    What is it with all you ebike guys who surronster your videos with helmets. Kind of goofy

    • @freerfixedit
      @freerfixedit  4 месяца назад +1

      at the time, it was cause my mic for the camera was in my helmet and I wanted good audio for the vid... it does seem to be a trend tho, and is quite cringe...

  • @metonicycle6294
    @metonicycle6294 Год назад +1

    lame

  • @CmdrTigerKing
    @CmdrTigerKing 3 месяца назад

    why do surron ppl hidew their gay faces