What The Hell Happened To Ohio? Episode 1 - East Cleveland
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- East Cleveland looks like a bomb went off. This makes Ohio look terrible!
I’ve been to a lot of messed up rundown places with terrible poverty and the worst crime in the country and I’m rarely intimidated. But there was something about East Cleveland that didn’t sit right. Maybe it was the reputation - it’s widely known as a no-go zone for pretty much everyone in the area. It was certainly the way it looked. But it was a feeling, an energy on some of the back roads of east Cleveland that made me feel unsafe, exposed and at times, doubting my decision to get back into there.
So this is East Cleveland. I’m gonna get to the terrible parts in a bit but before we go there, we have to understand why we’re here. This is St Clair Avenue, one of the main drags through what has become one of this nation’s worst hoods.
But you know how this story begins, right? It wasn't always like this here. Going back to 1950 there were 40,000 people here and things were jammin. This was the most densely populated Cleveland suburb back then. Up until the late 60s, east Cleveland was known as a stable and well-run city. Many people here made a fortune in iron ore, coal, steel, shipbuilding and railroads as this place was a mini boomtown during the second industrial revolution. But then demand for American manufacturing declined, and this place went to the dumps.
In the late 60s, real estate prices crumbled and the black population moved in. In 1960, East Cleveland was 2% black but by 1980 it was 87% black, making it the second-highest black population in the nation. Today, it’s 93% black and the city’s population is less than half of what it was at its peak.
There’s 17,000 people here now, living in conditions that on many blocks look third world. Look at this place. It’s only 7 miles from Cleveland. 40% of the homes in this city are vacant and 40% of people here don’t even have a car.
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I live in the area you were driving thru and my kids walk around here we have never had any trouble from anyone its mostly older folks around here and a few knucklehead young people not dangerous but not the best most of the people round here work for Amazon GE walmart target and own there homes and take the best care they can of there properties your ignorance is insulting I have no record am a father of 3 married 16yrs my house is expensive for my family but we get by you should stay out our neighborhood spreading misinformation about us the crime is normal stuff that happens in low income areas our state is run by republican politicians who do nothing for us I am a former republican and quit the party due to there inability to do anything to help I notice you stayed in one small place not going up any street that was not broken and no black neighborhood opinion from a actual EC RESIDENT only a few white guys with no real time spent there I've never been robbed shot or anything and I walk around here night and day your a sad individual for making this bias video I saw this cause a white coworker asked me how I can live around Crack and such there are more bad people living in Cleveland heights the upper class white area we are not a ghetto by choice your people leave areas and take all the money and opertunity with them no white flight is not an excuse it's fact and to those guys you had on how about we look at the west side Prodominately white and full of crackheads I've never been asked if I want to buy rocks except on the west side of Cleveland near Parma and I was offered sex for cash over there while waiting on a bus by a young female who was white and that is the average situation when I go over there or I'm asked by some
Caucasian young man if I got zan or dro or whatever drug there after but over here in east cleveland the drug dealers only sell to there customers they don't bother or bug you no east cleveland is not pretty but it's not the hell hole you and your soley white opinionated friends say it is did you even try to ask a single resident of East cleveland anything nope you flew with opinions of men who don't live here or thrive here hope you try to do better in the future man actually talk to citizens before you bash there neighborhoods and say we're lazy non workers we don't go out and beg our supposed leaders for change ask Mike our governor what the hell happened to east cleveland I've called his office 12x times about change after I voted for him maybe he'll answer your calls heck have your little friends call also I'm guessing there team republican im independent and can't wait to vote Mike out and maybe elect someone who can get on the east cleveland city governments but and get things done not just talk we need new leaders here and we need guys like you to stay out our neighborhood trying to get views for riding down two streets and saying it's the whole neighborhood or next time you could ride up some of the nice streets and not just the bad ones for clicks and subs .
I live in Cleveland on the West side and the reason is because of Deregulation and NAFTA, De - industrialization , As Always Diamond Dave Staudohar
Hey, im really curious, what drives you to make these videos? Overall i enjoy what you do, even if i disagree with your opinion sometimes, I think what youre doing is important. Exposing the state of our country is important, and i wish that more people paid attention
FYI where you were driving on St. Clair in the double digit streets around the 2:30 mark, such as E.65th is not East Cleveland. It's the East side of the city of Cleveland there's a difference. The City of East Cleveland is a very small suburb that borders Cleveland, that doesn't start until the triple digits like E.140th St. for example. Other than that I thought you did a great job. Thanks
The demand for manufacturing didn’t decline we sent it overseas!
And there’s no excuse for it.
Look at what happened in the south with textiles and steel industrys
Who is we? You mean politicians and ruling class?
@bn stndrd according to Citizens United, they are.
Absolutely and South of the border in the 80's as well
Anytime "the money runs out" in a city in America, you know the politicians are getting richer
Maybe the cause is the decision by American corporations to manufacture in China and Mexico to save $ on labor. Seems to me that Politicians are just the tools needed and used by the Corporations.
@@garyb5889 In addition to the 'paid under the table' politicians, we can all thank NAFTA, the greedy unions, bill clinton and bag man charlie tree for that. The USA is just another example of global politics...
bingo
why did the Canadian army launch a full scale assaults' on east Cleveland ?
One word Democrat
America is the greatest first world, second world and third world simultaneously
We are in the 4th now and it’s still badass!
It's not a contiguous 1st world nation....sections of it are 4th 5th and 6th world ...🤣🤣
The beautiful thing about America is the potential to advance from one class to another. The opportunities America affords for upward mobility is precious. Many people only focus on a specific income class and not the ability to move up from one to another.
@@jax46 yes, I agree, but it's not as funny as my statement.
@@TWOnly666 agreed
It didn’t just happen in Ohio, it was the entire Midwest. I grew up in East Cleveland!
Right....Warren Ohio ... Trumbull county is sadly my hometown now in Columbus Ohio......it's sad really... corruption n job loss definitely
Why dont' they demolish those old buildings? i don't get it
@@nofurtherwest3474That costs money. Leaving it to rot costs nothing.
@@bartsanders1553 rot doesn't cost nothing. it is a blight, which is a cost. it deters good people from moving in or nearby. and attracts vagrants.
It happend the worst in Ohio at least in terms of the Midwest but you are right actually your sort of right Iowa,Nebraska, Wisconsin, North Dakota, and South Dakota don't have a ton of cites that look like this
Chapman Avenue looks like Chernobyl.
Granny lived on Chapman in the 70s, was still a decent neighborhood!
That's an insult to Chernobyl
My parents lived on Chapman before i was born in late 70's. I knew exactly what street he was on in the opening of the video. That's a No Go zone for sure!
It didn't decline, our elected officials thought it would be a great idea to send our jobs overseas
Our elected officials were paid by lobbyists to send our jobs overseas. The elected official isn’t even close to smart enough to do this kind of damage.
exactly. that is why all these smaller cities and towns are so bad. it's disgusting and heartbreaking.
Then Trump was elected and much of them returned.But the Dems found a way to cheat and get the tap dancing Biden into office.
@@soulvaccination8679 you are a fool. Trump lost jobs nation wide, in my community he “negotiated “ with General Motors to save our plant and they left two weeks later. Your Masiah did nothing but damage our country.
It doesn’t work like that. CEOs of companies choose to move their factories overseas. I worked for a company that did that. The government has nothing to do with it.
Another crazy thing is that less than a mile away from east Cleveland there are multimillion dollar homes.
Was just gonna say the same thing- less than 6 min away were some of the most gorgeous mansions I’ve seen. Born likely during the Rockefeller era when steel plants made Cleveland a bustling and booming place to live
That’s crazy, must have some cheap property taxes.
Because that's All that profited from it,they have no Soul too knowing that these parts of the city were wonce what made them rich
Those are the homes that are zoned for reparations..The Blacks will take those homes from hard working whites as reparations which Biden says he will sign if it passes over his desk.
Your facts are not accurea
ate. You don't really show East Cleveland until the 2:55 point in your video
I just went to Cleveland on a business trip. The city was so strange. There were signs of life but was dead. A few cars here and there. Some kids walking around. The houses in the neighborhoods look so run down. I definitely know what you mean by vibe and feeling. It was very unsettling.
Where you from? Public square and downtown is getting way better.
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@@aleqsen
This was literally me the last few days. The place is so dead and hollow. Never waited at a cross walk even at a 6 lane road. Just walked straight across, never a single car
The problem with communities like this one and places like Gary is that today there's no longer any reason for them to exist - all of the things that made them productive and useful places to live have long since disappeared. I suspect that their final fate, probably within a couple of decades, is to become ghost towns like those places that sprung up during the gold rush...
Yep I'm from St. Louis MO and they should just bulldoze north and east st.louis
absolutely.., coworker of mine, said the town he is from in texas, doesn’t exist anymore. Oil dried up, everyone started to leave, till eventually no one was left.
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A lot of former mill and mining towns from Georgia though West Virginia look like that to. When the textile or carpet factory left, or mines closed the people has nothing to do.
Unlike the old frontier towns, the element residing in these shithole cities aren't gonna budge! As long as they're getting their freebies & Biden Bucks, they will never leave for greener pastures, as our frontier fathers did when a town dried up.
I grew up in East Cleveland..went to school there, my first apartment was on Chapman Avenue. It didn't look like that back in the 95- 2000. When City hall became corrupt the city just went straight to hell. I still love East Cleveland.
Absolutely
Exactly! I didn't know I grew up in the hood until I got older lol!
Yea.. but Chapman always was a little different lol
@@streetbaby8026 so 👍true 😍
Detroit is the same way
I live in the Cleveland area and seeing those shells of what were once beautiful Apartment buildings is absolutely gut wrenching.
I could imagine how nice looking they were in the past
And all it takes is a physical and willful community.
Sadly in those areas with schools they took away busing and extra curricular activities even when i was in high school so the black people in those areas are at a huge disadvantage and especially the kids. RTA buses brought kids to school late which led to a lot of detention and suspension taking them away from education. There is nowhere for them to hang out and stay out of the streets. Its terrible.
@@soulcheftanya streets are the worst places to find accompanying friendships
Blink of a eye . Life is 40 years .
A box 📦 to see from …….or
the earth without a chain and no box .
💰 is key .. but envying it leads you back to the box .
ikr... East Cleveland used to be something back in the day;
Potholes galore
I used to live in Cleveland and had major culture shock coming from the west coast. Couldn’t believe the poverty and awful conditions.
Its a democrat run shithole. Every city the democrats take over ends up like this.
The worst part, is that the politicians responsible for screwing over the business community in E Cleveland -- got to move away to other suburbs -- when things went south -- like the parasites they are/were. Should be a law saying you have to remain in the community you govern for at least 20-30 years after you leave office.
I worked in E. Cleveland for about 2.5yrs at a nursing home, they would send me out to find the patients that left and didnt come back that day, the experiences I had going out alone in that community I could write a book on. It was some of the saddest, and scariest times I’ve ever experienced.
You should make a youtube channel and tell us stories. I'd sure as heck listen
Were you ever a victim of a crime in your 2.5 years there?
@ Precilla Fairlady are you asking for real? Or asking to be a troll?
@@aluminumbrain6351 I'm not a troll. I was asking because I lived in E. Cleveland for many years and was just wondering if it had really gotten that bad. Please forgive me if the question was too intrusive. I'm a very inquisitive person.
@ Precilla Fairlady, im am sorry aswell. Trolls are running all over here and I think your question was a good one. But I had to ask. Please forgive me
Hi Nick, I enjoy your channel immensely. I wish that you could have interviewed someone that currently lived in East Cleveland. The one guy said East Cleveland was decent until the 80's which is not true. I graduated from Shaw High in the 90's and there were plenty of middle-class families living there at the time. Corruption in city hall and the closing of Huron Hospital really pushed the city into decline.
Well that's what you get for voting for Joe Biden. They send your jobs overseas
@@apallok54 Biden was not Elected - don't be ridiculous 😇 🧂
@@lennox2223 He never "represented" - nor was he "elected" - SELECTED as a Puppet chosen by the Beast to perpetuate destruction the way I see it. Now the poster boy for the going out of business sale of the US -
I agree with Nadia. I lived in East Cleveland during my childhood in the 80s and 90s and it was very decent even during the crack epidemic. I feel like this video wasn’t genuine and it was so much misinformation in it. I also do not like the fact that you interviewed all white men and didn’t get any other perspective about the community. Please do better with your research and your testimonials.
I think what he meant to say was that when crack came, EC began its tailspin. Whichever decade that was for East Cleveland...who knows. I suspect the late '80s was the beginning of the end.
The really sad part of this is that East Cleveland at one time was the wealthiest city in the Cleveland area. John D. Rockefeller lived in East Cleveland. Euclid Avenue was "Millionaires' Row." Even now, these buildings are run down, but you can still tell that they were built to be very elaborate and impressive when they were new. What needs to be figured out is exactly how could an area go from being so preeminent to being such a war zone?
How? Just add blacks...
Auto industry and steel mill jobs left the place with no hope. Anywhere there's high poverty and poor education there will be high crime. This is not a "racial " issue.
@@chosenone9879 No I wouldn't think it is a racial issue either. Loss of jobs due to steel mills and auto plants leaving the area has nothing to do with race.
@@chosenone9879 Exactly. This has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with opportunity: jobs and good education system.
@@aidankirby8412 how about jobs leaving the country?
Thanks for taking the time to research, video and share in a brutally raw way. I live in East Cleveland for two-years at East 115 a block away from Euclid. The Euclid Tavern was the last place I felt safe, going further into East Cleveland. Thanks again Nick!
Probably at least half the jobs there were outsourced to the Third World, including China, thereby shifting huge amounts of wealth to China, thereby helping China to finance its military buildup on the World Stage, compliments of the US, at the expense of millions of US jobs and economic and military security. A combination of cumbersome taxes and Union scale wages and benefits and a poor work ethic chased many manufacturing Firms out the US
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You are correct
@@billyp333
unsure if greed has anything on CCP slavery, but one day you’ll be ready to understand
@William Mulvaney no it started with Clinton smh out sourcing our jobs...
A Veteran of the war in Afghanistan told me all the mortars and heavy artillery that gets shot at US troops has Chinese writing on it. We are fighting our own polices. What a waste.
“Are these people even smart enough to find jobs?” Come on man course there’d freakin be people smart and willing to find jobs there if there WERE any. The one time I went there I only saw a smattering of store fronts/mom and pop shops and small businesses needing only one person to manage them. Severe lack of jobs here and in Cleveland in general. One of the few things keeping Cleveland going is that it has one of the best hospital/medical schools/facilities in the country.
Yes great hospitals 2 of there !
Very ignorant statement
Thank you for this educated statement.
Agree, dumb statement and there were a few.
Yeh that was rude AF. Plus the emphasis on "....then the BLACK population moved in...", and the "40% dOnT eVeN hAvE a CAR!!!"....
Nick you should have a "spot the Family Dollar" contest in all your videos .......
Totally! 👍
Totally funny - never leave your six open to an uncovered FD, I always say.
My wife and I actually make a game of that when we travel. Count the number of Family Dollar, Dollar General, and Dollar Trees.
Family Squalor...
@@DanEBoyd If I am honest, I can't knock it. Good place to save $$$
I was brought up in East Cleveland In 1958. I am just now seeing this video and you did a really great job.
I lived on Elwood Rd off of Shaw Ave, off of Euclid, the street you drove down in your video.
I attended Chamber Elementary School In the 1960s, my sister went to Kirk and Shaw High. Welfare and section housing and bussing started. Then you had what was called white flight the neighborhood changed drastically almost overnight.
Then came corruption in the local government along with no tax money coming in, and things took a turn for the worse. The manufacturing issues came in later by that time East Cleveland had already gotten pretty bad. Government corruption ever since.
Manufacturing jobs sent over seas, just like all rust belt cities. It’s sad.
Obozo said they should "learn to write code" 🤣🥳😂👍👌
@@buckshot6481 Trouble is that "writing code" is no longer the shortcut to wealth that it once was. When you have most of the needed apps and software written it only needs to be maintained by a very small number of people and customer support and training is now mostly automated. The demand for large numbers of different apps is no longer enough to support the number of jobs displaced from traditional, materials based industries. Apps replicate themselves with little or no physical limits and little or no need for large pools of labour.
The US and most of Europe have seen traditional heavy industries moved to India, China and the far East, especially Korea. Only a few highly competitive service sectors remain and the pay in these is being eroded drastically over recent decades.
There was a time when the US was seen as a very attractive destination for job-starved Ireland in the 80's and 90's.
This is no longer the case because Australia, Canada and the middle east have become more attractive. The States has become a very poor choice for intending emigrants from Ireland. This scene of urban decay finds parallels in many Irish locations such as Belfast, Derry and Limerick and parts of Dublin. Houses can be bought in those locations for €30k to €40k when the average national house prices are in the region of €300k. These run down areas are very small in the greater scheme of things and do not suffer as much as in the States since they are subsidised by richer areas. We do not have locally funded local government as much as they have in the US.
Yes many Midwestern cities have taken a turn for the worst unfortunately over the years. And actually many of these were once very prosperous. Some of the most prosperous in the nation
Yep, the politicians and the elite sold out all of our manufacturing overseas to China.
You think it's sad because you aren't old enough to remember the toll of heavy manufacture , and heavy manufacture in the 60's to 70's is peanuts compared to the size of the world economy today
People in USA still talk about the Cuyahoga river or lake Erie catching fire , like that is some MAJOR environmental disaster.
İf lake Erie were in china it would have dried up 8 years ago , no normal American that doesn't work in international business could ever comprehend the scale of modern industry or the environmental toll, and without it , forget about it , the cheapest cars would be a quarter mill , cheap pants and shirts would cost thousands , household goods pots pans cookers brooms would all be in the hundreds minimum
You comment on your iphone and a few years later you toss it in the garbage and buy a new one , you have no idea where your phone goes . Trash dumps that are bigger than Cleveland ever was in it's hay day, with workers , children melting the circuit boards down melting the plastic and using harsh chemicals to extract the rare minerals , all of that is normally done on the banks of a river , the waste plastic normally dribbles toward the banks or is piled up on the river banks and without sites like these your iphone would cost about 3-10k
I use to live on the west side of Cleveland about 6 years ago, and I had to attend a class on the east side to get extra funding, for nursing school. While in this class a person asked by a show of hands if we were from the east side, everyone raised their hands but for me. Then this person asked by a show of hands who was put into foster care 1 or more times, and everyone raised their hands but for me. Some of them explained their situations growing up, and I started to cry, in front of these strangers because it was so sad and I went to the restroom to regain my emotions. This changed me forever!
Ty for sharing I can't imagine how that situation would be
Was that on Fathers Day that day in class you mention?
@@archiebunker7688 self inflicted wounds
Yeah, it was a deliberate attempt to shame and indoctrinate you into supporting exactly the kinds of policies that created East Cleveland.
Where on the west side were you raised? I too have seen places in inner city Cleveland that made me feel extremely blessed. I grew up in strongsville.
I remember when all those apartment buildings were occupied
Did you ever go in them apartments before?
When was that
What year ?
About 15-20 years ago
@@charlescarter4608 1940's up until 1984. then Crack moved into those apartments and many many houses.
Nothing happened, it's just an average day in Ohio
"And then the black population moved in" Strange amount of emphasis on that one
He's talking about statistics so calm down
It's called White Flight. I've added a link for more info on this topic in my comment.
@@katmickle I don't see the link
Are you feelings hurt?
@ Sachen Born Rhinelander yes, so much Schadenfreude amongst other things!.
As bad as the place looks now , it doesn't take much imagination to realize that it was far worse not that long ago. All of those empty lots were once full of burned out buildings. I think what you'll see here eventually is a situation like Detroit where entire streets are leveled and returned back to Mother Nature.
I thought it resembled Detroit when I started watching this video
Getting pretty dam close..to be unrecognisable as being g place where humans live..
Actually, perfect dumping ground for serial killers
I lived there in the early 2000's going to school and it indeed was worse
Slavic Village which is Fleet. Harvard, Union, Miles area was THE WORSE neighborhood under Obama! More people lost their homes in that area than anywhere else in this country. The homes were vandalized wnd then razed. Its like Syria now. I left in 1984 and grew up there. The homes and yards were very pretty.
Amazing. Most of those home are huge and were probably beautiful at one time. Sad to see.
If i were you i would begin to prepare to more out of America..And i am serious..I know i am. And thousands and thousands are doing the same.The writing is on the wall.
I used to work there, inspecting house demolitions. When I was there Hayden was the street that they focused on. I remember a couple years back a house exploded because they removed the connected gas pipes. It really is anarchy down there, with fearless holdouts trying to make the best of their situation.
Anarchy doesn't create such horrors, statism does.
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@@alfredajones6703 not to mention Can ya say LeVert.
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@@alfredajones6703 those were the days
Homes like that would sell for $1m in California. Any condition
Lol. Especially in San Francisco or Oakland. And they gobble it up! At any price
😂😂😂 so true! Without a walkthrough!
@@romeo_alpha0176 Alameda now too!
@@truest5430 even places like Dixon and Woodland weren’t on any radar until commuters started coming into town in droves. The problems don’t improve, they just migrate.
How much is a house in East Cleveland?
When an area becomes this neglected the Governor should be able to declare it blighted and be able too remove all elected officials and appoint interm leadership. This is a leadership problem.
A Democratic Party problem.
@Belle Ami Toujours that is because these people are like cups of water with a label on their forehead "Democratic fool"
Our leadership is all corrupt. We’d have to reset basically all levels of government to get anywhere productive.
You're exactly right. I lived there in the 80's. Decomocrats has done nothing to help change East Cleveland and the people just keep voting for them.
The people who reside there as well as surrounding area locals should of got together a long time ago and demanded change ! You can't wait to vote for a president and expect change . This starts on a small scale! Town hall meetings, city council, The Mayor ect! The people have been brainwashed into thinking their votes don't matter! Well congratulations , here's what you get ! 😕😔
Thank you for this video! OMG! I was one of the ones born & raised there and it was horrible! The vibe/atmosphere there is terrible, like some kind of ominous oppressive spirit there. Like a physical weight. The people's mentality there is unbelievable, it's like a different world. I hated it there. You drove past the church I used to go to. And I used to go to that Donut place you drove past. But I'm happy to say God made a way for me to leave that place 12 years ago and I haven't looked back! Now I live on the west coast with mountain view, beautiful city, beautiful houses, palm trees, sunshine and beautiful weather and a very safe place! And nice people. I met the love of my life here. 😊 Best decision I ever made! I knew it was bad there when I was there, but didn't realize how bad till I moved away from there and entered normal society. Since leaving there I've also lived for a while in New Zealand and Switzerland. That was fun. 😊Now I'm back in the USA on the west coast and love it! I will NEVER go back to East Cleveland again. Horrible place.
"Life after people"
Exactly how it looks.
I drove for UPS last summer in that part… it’s bad but most of the people are like others anywhere else. They’re just poor. It’s just the ghetto ones that makes everyone from that area look bad
I had a delivery job there too. Spent alot of time there. Just alot of people asking me if i had a cigarette. I was never the victim of anything. Being white in a black area i thought there might be racisim, but didnt experience that either.
Most people are kind, caring individuals. Like you said the bad apples ruin it for the rest. Need to be tougher on crime to keep the streets safe for the residents and work harder to offer more opportunities. All people deserve to live in peaceful neighborhoods.
I was right on the outskirts there yesterday and had the same experience. The people I interacted with were nice people.
If they took pride in the community and started to clean it up, the less than desirable ones would go elsewhere.
It's not just the Media.... IT'S GUNS & THE MEDIA. It's Not Just Crime; it is heinous, reckless violence for gain, sport, scores, turf, & Street Cred without mercy or limit; &, a population in fear. Defund the PO PO ?? Joker Please !!! They pray for the PO PO in Detroit & Chicago.
People in the 50''s saw this coming and ran like hell
they didnt see it coming, they caused it. migration.
@Lunar Passion i never said that people were wrong for moving. i said migration among other things caused the town to be dilapidated.
@@chandraanjelica5608 It’s called White flight
@Star Bucker because the resources dry up. The whole story is never told. If white people with money don't live in the area, local governments don't care to assist in its upkeep.
@@kiab431 Like black people, most white people don't have money. There are more black people who have money, than you think.
A very accurate video and commentary by Nick. I was born and raised in Cleveland but I fled 50 yrs ago. People in the entire Midwest are good people, but they are victims of major social and economic forces [globalization, loss of mfg., etc.]. Cleveland's decay is tragic, but peoples' efforts and education may pull the next generation upward. Have hope !
Fun fact: keep driving east and you'll get around to Cleveland Clinic.
It's not hard to miss. It's basically a city in itself, where the ultra-rich from Saudi Arabia and other oil-producing countries come for medical treatment.
You will also hit University Circle, Case Western Reserve University and some absolutely great museums.
Just don't take St. Clair to get there.
I was there
You have to drive west not east
Well now Dubai has a Cleveland Clinic lol (they do) .... Funny to think of a dying city like Cleveland somehow has something to give to a sprawling Super City like Dubai
Keep going east you'll be in euclid and mentor
@@toxicgracie3772 cleveland isn’t dying, maybe east cleveland but the city of cleveland isn’t
Seems like there are areas like this in each state. There's an incredible divide between those that have everything and those that have nothing. The middle class is gone and this is the result.
I used to deliver beer down there 20 years ago. His video doesnt do it justice. Its even worse than what he shows.
Jobs are the problem.. you got more border hangers and $ entitlements
Then the labor force in physical shape and AGE …. That’s your problem.
Young’s are telling the elders how to work it .
When his physic is 30 years younger to get the job done.
MoMos … that’s why other nations out run us. We pride ourselves on wits
Not production . All the knowledge
Can’t fix a physical problem.. with a basic screwdriver.
We call ours Pueblo. It's horrible, but no outside force can change it. Things there won't get better until its residents change their attitudes, values, and expectations.
@@77chevy4x4 You write like a distracted schizophrenic.
Totally agree! I use to live in East Cleveland, but managed to get the hell out!
I'm sure the community leaders avoid the neighborhoods you're driving around like the plague. Out of sight out of mind.
I grew up everywhere you drove in this video. Grandma's 90th and Superior. Then moved to East Cleveland, then it was really nice early 70's. Some parts looked like Norman Rockwell portrait during winter. Definitely gone downhill. When I got married, some of those apartments on Chapman actually turned us down because we didn't make enough money at the time. We now live on the Westside of Cleveland.
Crazy how many churches are in and immediately around this place.
It is like that in all poor and run down places. More God on tap than food in the pantry sadly...
I'm sure there were once many well attended churches in EC, the buildings are still there, but generally empty.
Bible Belt….
Still a Hellhole though!
It's just proving that they're useless
I live on the East side of Cleveland and gotta say first interviewee was a smidge too paranoid.
Driven through there many times, day and night. I go to church at St Clair-Superior, do groceries at Asiatown and Hough, and I support a favorite local business at Kinsman.
Maybe you need to see how the rest of us live. Cleveland is a toilet
@@clevelandmortician3887 not to the extent that you freak out and grab a gun while in the car
Exactly I didn't even see any people around and I'm like... he's scared of a bad looking area.
@@naomiv7133 yeah, it's more sad and depressing than outright wanting you dead
Damn u stay exclusively in the trenches
East Cleveland is different from the east side of Cleveland where st Clair is located
Oh I thought this is where Bone wuzz from
@@malikaustin9087 St Claire is a street
Only in Ohio bro
If you have the inclination to do so, check out how much money is spent (per student) in the Cleveland area. You'll be shocked at the waste and corruption.
East Cleveland City School District spends $29,270 per student each year.
And yeah that's more than double the national average, and I bet if I check there is a trend of very easy obvious corruption, but I don't have the heart right now after seeing so much corruption everywhere I look I need a break.
@@1800imawake if that's true it is like double the national average. But it is the same for all similar areas across the US. Newark NJ is the same. It costs almost double of other districts and the worst part is there are never any positive results. Only just more failure and wasted or corrupted funds.
Mostly dimocrat mayors.
@@dimensions20 The obvious side of the coin.
I currently live in Atlanta, but I grew up in Cleveland, and we left there in 1978. I grew up a couple miles from University Circle, as it was a nice place to be around. At the time, East Cleveland wasn't regarded as a horrible place, but it sure found a way to be the nightmare area that it is today. The University Circle area has long been considered a trendy place to live, as I used to visit old friends and we would frequent a jazz bar located right by the hospital. If the University Circle area actually annexes East Cleveland, it may be the only hope that it has. It is sad to hear just how bad it has gotten to be, as I always try to pull for my hometown. Great job and thank you...
I was told that you know you made if you lived in EC in the last 60s. It's sad to see it like it is. The new Shaw High School is about all it has going for it.
Reminds me of Harvey, IL, a suburb of Chicago--a once thriving area that's left in complete decay. But corrupt politicians run places like these.
true and gary is worse than harvey
And I hear they have a very high property tax . I had to go to a funeral service in that area. Very sad.
Yes. Harvey is just awful.
Corrupt corporations, the politicians are just paid actors
By the way I live near Cleveland Ohio and know all about the manufacturing base leaving our community.
I see you put a lot of time and effort in these videos… I appreciate you, I love geography and actually learn quite a lot from you
I been around East Cleveland for a long time. East Cleveland is just like any city, just with less money. People there are cool and down to earth but a few make the area look worse than it really is and the city has less resources than most to take care of the problems they have.
Group dynamics . Let the worst parts of any group ( corrupt officials , criminals and incompetent leaders ) run things and it's all downward .
The mayor looks like a character from Chapell’s Show and the police are corrupt. Just an outsider’s perspective. I only get the info I see on local news and YT.
Are you insane? I live here too - this place is a mess and the people are a mess.
Even though it seems expensive, abandoned buildings need to be demolished ASAP. People always seem to live with the illusion that things will improve. They will improve when new businesses that need large tracts of land near big cities build facilities and provide jobs.
That is true also with how much they have the government in their back pockets. I firmly believe this. Just look at history from day 1 when the government was formed.
Yeah, Redlining and gentrification are actually healthy and necessary to recycle antiquated housing stock in old neighborhoods; but good luck explaining that to any public official or the people who put them in office.
Lol this is my home town. I actually lived in the heart of EC. Hadn’t always been as bad. I used to be able to walk by myself. Now it’s completely different. I no longer live there now bc I moved out of state to NC once I graduated from Shaw High in 2012. Family still live here. Idk it’s getting worst and worst and it’s so sad to people who grew up here. But it will make you a stronger person to get out and do better. 🥺 but thanks for the coverage on my hometown. Hopefully we can get help to rebuild this once strong community ❤️
Shaw High is one of the bright spots, FOX8 Wayne Dawson is the other.
I work in the area frequently. We have one street that when we work there all the neighbors come out to say hello. Still good people in East Cleveland.
Bone Thugs -East 1999 where you find me
yes pls be council and fix this city!!!
@@coffeebotography yep that's right.
"And then the black population moved in."
Hmmmm........🤔
So sad to see another once prosperous city fall in decay and despair. Nice upload, Nick.
I volunteer with the salvation army in East Cleveland with kids I love it
Awesome 🌺
That's awesome! It's the kids I feel for. The parents made their choices, the kids still have a chance though...
People ask why does the city just allow these ruined buildings to keep standing when they are unsafe and eye sores? The reason is because it costs too much money to tear them down and a lot of the reason for that is because many of them still contain asbestos and asbestos has to be abated before the building can be torn down. There just is no money for this.
Exactly
Also, anyone who has lived in a building/house that is 50 years or older knows that a LOT of money needs to be spent to maintain the building, probably more money than the building originally cost to build. Plumbing breaks or clogs, pipes corrode, wiring gets old and frayed, the roof wears out, the foundation cracks and shifts, the yard becomes overgrown, etc. I just inherited an old building and I think I inherited a money pit. I can understand why people throw their hands up and just board it up and put a fence around it. I really can understand it - completely!
@@faithfulforever6331 yeah and the crazy part is that those are the building and structures on the market for the low because they cost so much to maintain. i had an idea that a sister in jersey i believe is now doing. she purchased a tore up gem. turned it into a multi family unit and all of the people fixing the building are going to live in the apartments with an office at the bottom. sis hit bankroll with that. tax deductions and everything.
@@chandraanjelica5608 The old saying is true, "when some people are dealt lemons, they know to make lemonade."
Can't they give them to the fire department or the army to practice on?
Every rundown hood that we see across the United States of America is done by design, intentionally and purposely.
When all the jobs leave, that's what you get.
I wish we could see East Cleveland in it’s heyday, to go back in time to see what the apartments and houses looked like when East Cleveland was thriving.
Me too like a RUclips way back machine
I wish that for alk the cities. See them in the booming fifties.
@@maryshaffer8474 ya but all those "whites only" signs would seem to disrupt from a 1950s video of a "great town"
@@bobspizza7444 East Cleveland was never a "whites only" suburb. Cleveland never had segregation and had a black population going back to the 1800's. Cleveland and East Cleveland were on the Underground Railroad. Why do you talk about things you don't know anything about?
I have spent a lot of time in past 15 years travelling to Thailand,Cambodia and Vietnam . Parts are truly third world. But not as bad as this place.
Same for india. There are slums all over but Cleveland is on a whole new level
I haven't seen Cleveland much before, would u say Cleveland is worse than even Kensington ave and the ghettos of Philadelphia?
@@tonipepperoni3424
This isn't Cleveland, it's East Cleveland.
I remember a story about a group of third-world journalists on a bus tour of DC. They wanted to see the real DC beyond the monuments. The driver and guide resisted at first, finally agreed to drive them through the ‘hood, only to turn around when cold fear overtook them. These journalists were from places like Beirut, Cairo, Bangalore, Nairobi, São Paulo. They didn’t expect no-go zones in the capital of the richest country that ever existed. What they saw seemed disappointing though familiar, but they really couldn’t believe their hosts were afraid of their own city.
Have you seen Kensington? Zombie land there...
Amazing how he didn't show the beautiful parts of east cleveland on purpose. He got to my street off euclid and cut to another scene becuz my street is well kept & mostly home owners including myself. I do agree with him on the chapman area . note: he drove thru cleve/ st.clair early in the vid which is not east cleve..
you know exactly why and what he did here. I live in nyc now but iwent to Shaw High and my Brothers went East High when we lived in Hough/ Wade Park area. He didnt show Forest Hills or Millionaires row/ Rockerfeller Houses.....just the poor Black households responsible for destroying the city! This guy is a real hero...somebody get his white horse.
Agreed I did the same thing. Nearly all of St.Clair is not East Cleveland especially in the double digit streets numbers. That's just the East side of Cleveland not the same. Also he definitely avoided the beautiful streets near Cleveland Hts. and the University.
@@qubahka77 you sure yt ppl like yourself who are junkies & serial murderers didn't play a part in the decline in property value within the city?😂
I was thinking that also. There's a part of East Cleveland that's just like the nice parts of Cleveland Hts and Shaker Hts. That area is *REALLY* nice and the video didn't even show it. It would have been nice to showcase the pretty parts of East Cleveland to offset the gloom and doom. And yes, I also noticed some of the video wasn't even shot in East Cleveland, when I saw that sign for East 72nd Street.
Most of it looks terrible but of course there’s always residents in denial like urself that deny the high crime rate, plummeting population,high drug abuse rate, and the total lack of jobs and just say that it looks like everywhere else in America when that is just not true stop trying to cover up ur towns shitty situation delusion at its finest.
Having lived near East Cleveland (and also having driven through these neighborhoods several times), it is striking how similar some of East Cleveland looks like *certain* parts of Indianapolis (minus some building conditions). Cities in most parts of the midwest have deteriorated immensely, but East Cleveland has always been the frontrunner.
Agreed
But wouldn’t you have to put Flint, Gary and East St. Louis in the same category.
Your questioning the wrong people question someone black someone from Cleveland
exactly, he gets outsider opinions, instead of people that live there.
Great point. Can't ask people who SCARED TO DEATH of the east side. The commentator, by some of his ignorant comments, wouldn't fare well asking someone black any questions anyway. He needs to stay up in Maine with his friends, Mary Poppins and nem 🤣🤣😭😭😭
@@damedawg8667 The one guy did a great job.
Wow east Cleveland looks like nature took over in some areas
Never seen trees growing inside of buildings, unreal!
that's what happens when residents don't care and don't fight the little things as soon as they happen. people just don't care. it would never had gotten to this point if residents flooded city hall demanding the problem fixed as soon as it happened.
Most not some MOST
Did you ever happen to figure out what the hell happened to Ohio. I'm from Detroit, MI born and raised and being here makes me want to go home. I thought I lived in the worst city in the United States until I came to Ohio. I have never in my life seen so much poverty, drug addiction, and mental illness. I've been to every major city of pretty much every Midwest State amongst many other locations around the country and I've never seen anything like it. What really baffles me is the mindset of the residents. The majority actually live day to day like the way of life is normal.
Welcome to the Buckeye state baby. We're proud for no reason.
I've been told were the buckeye state because we are all a bunch of useless nuts.
The only place I've ever found that I'd consider worse than East Cleveland is East St. Louis lol
Or Detroit… at least before they started razing the blight.
Freya it's kind of amazing. Truth be told, I was thinking the only city. That's worst than East Cleveland is East St. Louis. Than I'd stroll down and noticed. You had made that same comment! 😳
-MIN. OBI AMOS.
Soooo right ..I grownup STL. Wen. Wen grown went ESTL allther x. I remember well and how it decayed o vfc er the yr..now I live in cleve. C EVleve. Every day. In total agreement. So sad
Agreed
"We straight from Cleveland pap pap n ya bleeding" 🦴 bone thugs
It would be nice to see photos of these neighbor Hoods that you travel and see what they looked like in the 40s and 50s
Wonder what the demographics were back then? Just sayin'.
@@dealsfromvirginia1773 The Cleavers lived in Shaker Heights, not far from E. Cleveland.
Yup!
@@BillyT531 you know what it was!
40s and 50s America didn’t have the crack cocaine problem, or all the high powered guns easily available , plus the population was far lower causing less strain on public services
He's not wrong. I lived in Parma in the 90's and was working for FedEx in those days. They sent me into the East Cleveland area a few times and it felt like being in a foreign country, no kidding. I told the boss I wasn't going to do it anymore even if I would get fired. He sent me to North Olmsted next day.
Couldn’t be around the poors I see
@@heatherhardy5720 Not true. I have good friends who live in Guinea West Africa. I even learned to speak French for when I am there visiting. That's a place with poor's, as you say.
More broken streets lights there. Than anywhere else. Over a mile straight of no lights.
Now I will agree with that. Hayden Ave, from windermere to St Clair really don't have but 2 or 3 street lights that's not busted or burned out.
Shot out on purpose.
I worked for a manufacturing company in east Cleveland back in the 90s. We were running 24/7 shifts. We had more people applying for jobs than jobs that v were available...
The comment of “do they want a job?” Rub me the wrong way. Feel like he is exploiting the neighborhood and the people.
@@stephaniep9466 I felt the same way until they showed a friend of mines house and I realized that most of the people on her street dont work and dont want to
@@stephaniep9466 I don't know what the truth is in regards to that. It would be interesting to know the statistics on who is working vs able bodied and choosing not to work in East Cleveland. 🤷♀️
Pripyat in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone looks better than this craphole even after 30+ years of abandonment.
🤣
Most normal day in Ohio 💀
Around 12.00 looks like scenes from that "I am Legend" zombie movie.😱 Loving the resident interviews.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 ouch my head hurts 🤕🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
The wood work squeaks, and out come da freaks.
There is the eastside of Cleveland and then there is East Cleveland… I just want to make that clear! Also, the eastside of Cleveland does have its rough areas but also some of the nices and wealthiest areas. And all Westsiders are afraid of the Eastside just cuz. Trendy areas of the eastside would be Coventry, Larchmere, van-akan and these areas are FINE. But yeah stay out EC but if you wanna take a drive through there you’ll be fine.
Thanks I always say that I want to travel to places that I see on the internet.
EC was bad,bad in the 90's and 00's I grew up there im 47 now I dont live there in fact everybody I grew up with does not live there anymore I wouldn't recommend it but if u walked around EC u probably would be fine I mean i wouldn't walk thru there not from fear its just nothing to see its a ghost town technically EC is a suburb but it's only 17,000 people who live there too rob,steal,kill,sell drugs u have to have people suburbs like mentor,cleve hts., Euclid,parma have a higher crime rate than EC because its more people like by 35 to 40 thousand more people than EC
The trendy areas you named are in Mayfield Hts and Shaker Hts! Keep it honest.
@@queenbee3647 umm Country is in Cleveland Heights (right next to the EC border, Larchemere is Cleveland (near E116th) and Van Aken is in Shaker. Which are all on the eastside?? That was honest.
@@NBOTravels Right!!💯
I know it’s heart breaking but use your words wisely bro u sound insensitive
Huh? How so? The truth is, being soft on these topics only serves to contribute to the problem. Ignoring the facts will never be a useful strategy.
@@Carlton_Wilson it’s about understanding why it became like this…..is just because “the blacks” moved in?🤔
I don't go into East Cleveland unless I have a gun and three 15 round magazines. Saying it is a War Zone is a understatement.
2:16 I live in that building, watching this from there right now..
I've been virtually everywhere you filmed and yeah EC is extremely depressed and depressing especially come winter but it's not as dangerous as some other cities, just pretty empty and lawless... closest thing to anarchy you can find in Ohio
I think there's some hope for a lot of rundown areas in and around Cleveland but ec is on another level, I really feel for the kids growing up there
I can't believe no one has commented back to ask you questions! I'm extremely curious! Where you born there or did you move there? Do you work and if yes What do you do for work? If no how do you get by? Is your building also half empty? What are the conditions?
for the people that havent been here you have
east cleveland which is its own city then you have the east side of cleveland which is the real east side
@@sarahlauren5643 Cleveland proper has jobs , it's like 20 min drive or less....... Sherwin Williams, 5/3 bank , all the schools hospitals etc
Anarchy didn't cause this, statism did.
Omg that's horrible, they should use it to shoot horror films to help raise money for the city
Money is not the problem. Anything good done there is destroyed or stolen by the animals that live there
@@clevelandmortician3887 you don’t know what you talking about
@@ybgmir188 I've lived in Cle for 45 yrs. Would you like to talk about govt corruption and corruption in the school district?? Guess who runs it all lol. The animals
I love the Midwest but it’s sad how nearly all of its biggest cities have these rundown areas
What is happening in ohio 💀 dawg 🤦♂️
Looks like a training ground we used in the Army for building clearing and assaults.
Omg yes !
Do I really have to tell you what happened to Cleveland and the rest of America’s city’s?
Jobs moving overseas?
Yes, do tell!
Democrat run?
@@pokemontas8025 Let’s just say it wasn’t the Norwegians.
The dems
It's sad to see, what was once a thriving town, turn into a ghetto.
White disporia???
Yet politics of stealing and greed made it that way
It's been a ghetto for Decades
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@@charlescarter4608 EXACTLY! most of the damage done by CRACK and then the sorry, corrupt politicians and those people who own homes couldn't always find people who wanted to BUY those homes so they're stuck. surrounded by drugs abandoned Apartments and tore up streets.
I'm here because a hastily created Cleveland tourism video parody from 14 years ago suggested this video. "Don't slow down in East Cleveland or you'll die." "At least we're not Detroit. We're not Detroit!"
I went to Kirk Middle and Shaw High School 87 in the 80's. East Cleveland was absolutely beautiful. It breaks my heart to see it now. It's shameful!
I went to Superior Elementary, Kirk Jr. High, and graduated from Shaw High in 1966.
I’m from Cleveland and I want to do an interview with you about Cleveland & East Cleveland from an African American perspective
Email me!
I'd live to hear your perspective as well.
@@NickJohnson ok I’m just seeing this, I will email you
@ Nautica Nalani where are you from? just curious your name is different it's a pretty name and unique.
@@patandersen4271 thank you I’m from the Virgin Islands
The interviews add a lot of context to this sad, sad story that is being repeated everywhere. Keep 'em coming..... I'll know where NOT to retire!
Yep
Imagine how bad it would be if it wasn’t for the reinforcement of black inner city culture. No gangs, no income.
When driving around you can feel the dead in those buildings that's what he's feeling it's a dead place foreal
Are you saying there are actual dead bodies in those abandoned buildings??
@@GoldFinger34correct
@@Xezoil10 gasp!
Remember, you can't profile...wait till you get mugged first.
Wow! Mappy wouldn’t even come with you there! 😂
I lived in East Cleveland for 8 years back in the day! There are decent sections too! Thats were Rockefeller roamed back in the day, and some of his original gas stations still exist! Millionaire's Row is also in East Cleveland, with BEAUTIFUL homes! Now there are ROUGH parts, but not the entire city! I drive thru there every day! They also had one of the GREATEST high school bands (Shaw High School) in the world! They traveled to China a few years ago! True East Clevelander's love their hometown, and return there annually for a very large all-class high school reunion! When you drove thru the St. Clair part of Cleveland, Superman was invented in the Glenville area of St. Clair!
Is Broadview Heights in East Cleveland?
@@dlakoba4459 East Cleveland is in the north-east part of Cleveland. Broadview Hts is in the south-west part of Cleveland.
I graduated from Shaw High. "Go Cardinals"
It needs a return of Superman
Nick, if you come to Dallas, I would be happy to show you around.
I am a local, who longboarded across the entire city during high school.
When everything North of Downtown Dallas was safe.
Even at 2 am!
This was 2014-2018; Ofcourse.
Now, unfortunately it is not nearly the same city it once was 3-4 short years ago.
Feel free to reach out!
I am a passionate Dallasinian, who knows what has happened.
Historically and recently.
Great work as always!
-Your fan,
Suren.
Email me! I'll be there this fall! NickJohnsonNC18@gmail
Man, whenever I used to think of Cleveland, Ohio, I used to think of The Drew Carey Show.
I think of Bone thugs n harmony.
Cleveland is getting nicer all the time. East Cleveland however is not.
Cleveland rocks!Cleveland rocks!!
Drew is from the west side by the zoo. He went to Rhodes High School and I was at Cleveland South High then. They closed my school back before 2000. The building was only thirty some years old. Fantastic library, two huge cafeterias, underground track, complete auto body shop, third story nursery, two gyms, and olympic pool. They added a new outdoor track as well as football field then after spending all that money promptly closed the school! I have no clue where the kids go to high school from that area. East Tech is by 55th in a black neighborhood and Kennedy High School is way out by Miles Ave near Garfield Hts. Both dangerous areas.
@@erichmutchler3262 old Brooklyn
I think we all know why..
Who remembers Howard the duck in the 80's? Aint much changed lol
I'm a white guy who lives on the east side. You guys honestly just sound like you are very scared of black people. Not everyone is out to get you.
Imagine your car breaking down 😂
Imagine your car breaking down at night in this place!
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Imagine Ur Car Breaking Down Late At Night In ELA😂😂😂
@@linjones8686 Right!! lol you might live through the night in E Cleveland just sayin...
This is the result of 41 years of neoliberal / libertarian economics.
This is what you get when you encourage several generations of people to pursue professional sports or "music" as an avocation...... and 99.8 per cent of them don't make it.
What happened is that the generations were encouraged to buy goods and services but not encouraged to learn how to make them. Or, the jobs to make them were all sent overseas.
@@DavidSmith-fr1uz You are not wrong..... I'm afraid we are losing the ability to even produce these goods if we wanted to......
Would have thought it was more like 99.9%! You made a great point.
OK let's be fair. Send your kids to an inner city high school and let's see if they end up getting a good college degree IF they graduate at all.