Two cities you can compare that would make a brilliant video are Manchester & Liverpool over here in the UK! They have a huge rivalry be it music, sports, accents, industry etc it’s hilarious But the history of the rivalry’s origins are so fascinating when you research it Honestly I’d love to see that as a video from you :) Take care
Cedar Point, best amusement park on the planet.... Interesting fact, Detroit is 45 minutes from Toledo and Toledo is 45 minutes from Cedar Point and 90 minutes from the Cleveland Metro... Anyone looking for a great summer weekend in this part of the country, you literally have 4 options within 45 minutes apart... Take Route 2, not the turnpike...
@@mikewebbjr.9914 Route 2 is better during the day but that area is extremely susceptible to wild animals (mostly) at night, so I always take the Turnpike on the way home.
They had a preseason champs parade! Ironically both teams (Browns and Lions) had zero win seasons. Of course, as luck would have it. In both years, the teams were undefeated in the preseason.
Note Detroit city literally did a 360. Detroit is known for many things such as the eastern market, Greek town and bells island which the video never mentioned. I should add Detroit zoo, Detroit Shinola, art museum and their professional sports. Also never mentioned is the current skyscraper Detroit is building which will be the tallest out of all the buildings in Detroit and in Michigan. Last but not least Detroit was the Silicon Valley of America back in its heyday and it appears to be heading back to gain that title again thanks to Fords new building for AI and autonomous cars being built in downtown. To add Detroit was also known for building airplanes, X-ray machines, and famous music performers, the first record company etc. The city was so ahead of the times they had the first home phones in USA, phone books (as a city) and first paved highway, police cars, traffic signal lights etc. also invented light bulb. Currently Detroit has increased in a diverse population by 1,000 in a year and many new projects all over the city. Yahoo, google etc have moved in too and more coming. Watch out The Sleeping Giant woke up. Detroit is back alive. Cleavland is also turning around too. I wish both northern cities well as they return to glory .
@@egghat2478 They are though just because they are still loosing population doesn’t mean anything. New York City is loosing population still a great city the population decline in Detroit and Cleveland actually stabilized and is not as bad as it used to be. Many tech companies are leaving the west coast and the east coast and moving to Cleveland same thing for Detroit. Ford is actually building a electric car assembly plant in Detroit and ford is adding 20K jobs to Detroit that’s a huge boost and will really help out Detroit. And this pandemic is making people choose places like Detroit and Cleveland for the low cost of living and people are leaving cities like Los Angeles Portland and New York City. Do your research kid you know nothing about the country I bet you don’t even know what caused the decline of these once great cities in the first place. If you take a look at downtown Detroit from 2010 vs 2020 and it’s a HUGE improvement same thing with Cleveland. Really Portland Los Angeles and New York City are in huge trouble.
@@egghat2478 And the thing is I actually was born in Detroit lived in Detroit through my childhood. Moved to Cleveland in my teen years and then I moved back to Michigan and settled in Grand Rapids. I know more than you. You probably haven’t even stepped foot out of whatever state you live in.
khalil Heat and air conditioner repair i would agree Detroit is making a come back but are jobs really being opened there like crazy i herd most businesses are opening in the south for growing cities like nashville charlotte and dallas and especially since the amazon center of intelligence is opening up in nashville soon
You missed that Cleveland has probably the best orchestra in the nation.! Cleveland Orchestra. Its a monster music town. Should be noted! As Im a Clevelander...and a cellist! Just letting' you know
Berry Gordy starting mo town records that had the Jackson 5, Jacky Robinson, Stevie wonder, marvin Gaye, Diana Ross and that’s just getting started lol
@@HopeEaston007 plus Pierre Boulez, Robert Shaw, von Dohnanyi, Welser Most, Ernst Bloch, Apollo's Fire, Oberlin, Baldwin Wallace, Cleveland Institute of Music, Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame
I've never experienced anything like seeing Cleveland Orchestra in Severance Hall. Don't get me wrong, I love Motown but my daughter is a violinist so I feel incredibly fortunate to be able to take her there. I live on Catawba Island but work in Toledo.
Im from Oregon but I've been to Cleveland twice in the last decade and actually really liked it. The architecture of the older downtown buildings has a "Gothic" feel to it.
Overall I like a lot of the dominant Architecture along the Great Lakes States. Plenty of modern stuff but a lot of it is old fashioned and maintained rather than remodeled. My home Town in Huntington has looked like it’s been stuck in the 90’s for decades.
Agree..Detroit city literally did a 360. Detroit is known for many things such as the eastern market, Greek town and bells island which the video never mentioned. I should add Detroit zoo, Detroit Shinola, art museum and their professional sports. Also never mentioned is the current skyscraper Detroit is building which will be the tallest out of all the buildings in Detroit and in Michigan. Last but not least Detroit was the Silicon Valley of America back in its heyday and it appears to be heading back to gain that title again thanks to Fords new building for ai and autonomous cars being built in downtown. To add Detroit was also known for building airplanes, X-ray machines, and famous music performers. The city was so ahead of the times they had the first home phones in USA, phone books (as a city) and first paved highway, police cars, traffic signal lights etc. also invented light bulb. Currently Detroit has increased in a diverse population by 1,000 in a year and many new projects all over the city. Yahoo, google etc have moved in too and more coming. Watch out The Sleeping Giant woke up. Detroit is back alive. Cleavland is also turning around too. I wish both northern cities well as they return to glory .
I’ve lived in both cities. Now I’m in Cleveland. I will say Detroit was way more fun for me as far as night life and shopping/dining but I can’t speak for everyone. Cleveland has better site seeing for me out in the suburbs (where most people really live) beautiful parks and arts. If I would have to choose it would be Cleveland only because the cost of living and great suburbs to choose from that are very affordable and well kept. Not saying Detroit doesn’t have that but suburbs around Detroit can be pretty expensive (but well worth it). You can’t judge the two from this video. Travel to both, they both have a lot to offer.
@@iammrbeat You can also do another video on Columbus vs. Ann Arbor home to the largest public universities in the country. Ohio State and University of Michigan
I honestly feel bad for these cities Detroit had a population of 1.8 million people in its peak in 1950 while Cleveland had a population around 900k. I blame the politician for the destroying Detroit.
I am from Cleveland and very proud, a few things that you missed, one of the best hospitals in the world, a top orchestra and art museum. We also have one of the wealthiest communities in the country and it has been a very long time since we were a mistake on the lake. Also don’t forget the show Hot in Cleveland!
But keep in mind, the other option is LA. He didn't say "Hey, move out of Missoula, MT," he said LA, which is not exactly know for its pristine atmosphere.
Cleveland's population has gone down but the downtown population has increased dramatically over the past decades. Alot of new development in the downtown and its actually nice to walk around. I dont know about other parts of the city though
CLE has Improvided many areas, but East CLE remains the same (bad). The suburbs are growing faster than the city today since you know how us the lifestyle of city vs a nice house in the burbs.
When I came to Cleveland everyone have a least 4 kids.. there was children everywhere now the millennials are childless.. I'm sure no to many people left.. when they do they always comeback.. I don't know a single person who have left and don't come back I left 3 times and stay for good now for 26 years. Cleveland is easy ! Unfortunately Dogs are the new generation population
I’m from Cleveland. Live downtown, and work in the city, ive lived on the west coast and have lived in the south as well, and keep coming home. It’s not the prettiest and it’s not fancy but for the most part Cleveland people are inherently good, and just hard working people. I love it here!! It’s not terrible at all ❤️
i was born there, not raised. Was raised on a horse farm in Sacramento. i lived all over California. Was even stained there. i have lived in Cleveland twice. Last was 2001-2003 to assist my ailing, now late, grandfather. Overall, Cleveland is just okay in my opinion. That snow ❄️, man. i eventually dealt with it. In fact, after work, i would jog four miles home in it. But, i would rather do without that snow. Loved its culture and museums. Women are much better also. ESPECIALLY than a lot women in Las Vegas.
I was Born in deconis hospital in 1982,, There is a whole city named Cleveland, not just downtown. Venture farther than the "flats" and "ohio city" you may just change your opinion, I was just up there for family business and the divide between race and class has never been higher, your safe in your bubble I suppose, might do well to stick there.
I've lived in the Cleveland area my whole life, so I'm a little biased. However, I think in order to experience Cleveland, and probably Detroit, is to have a local take you around. Everyone loves to shit on Cleveland, even the mayor who called us the butthole of the world, but I've learned over the years that the locals secretly hate on Cleveland so no one moves here and destroys this hidden gem of a city. I mean Cleveland has a phenomenal theatre scene, the local food and brewery scenes are thriving, there's a National Park just out of town and the Cleveland Metroparks make up the Emerald Necklace. I moved out of the area for several years during and after college, but having travelled coast to coast, there's something about Cleveland that just drew me back. I think it's the city experience but with friendly small town atmosphere. Anyone reading this who has ever been a Cleveland sceptic, I assure you that we're worth a visit!
Yea this is true Cleveland is on of those places that doesn’t want other to come and know about how cool it is. The city is on a coast, I don’t think people realize that.
I lived in Cleveland in the early 2000s, my daughter was born in Cleveland in 2004. I like Cleveland but it has a long way to go. I haven't visited Detroit yet. The job market is improving in both cities especially with Amazon having multiple locations in both cities.
Born in 99, my neighborhood wasn't the greatest (East side) but I still wish the best for the city. It deserved a lot for what it's provided in the past
Oh we're so lucky to have the corporate overlords providing jobs for these shit cities. What would be cool is if the citizens themselves could fix it. Not some outside Corp looking to capitalize off all the poor people in these cities.
@@brandofield1280Amazon is providing good paying jobs for those citizens. They pay $15/hour which is good money in those cities. That is good for the economy as a whole because it generates jobs and revenue.
I appreciate all the Canada shoutouts, great vid as per usual! Also I got a hot rec for ya: Canberra and Ottawa compared (both purpose built capitals in a central location between the two largest cities of their respective country)
@@iammrbeat True say amigo, I hadn't considered the other purpose built capitals of the new world. Anyway great vid tho, I really appreciate your content!!
I was visiting Cleveland as a tourist (I'm from Puerto Rico) and I don't know if i'm crazy or not but I'm in love with Cleveland goddd Idk why but it has everything, its like having a great city, with everything in it and then a beautiful metropark with lot of nature. Idk, I just loved that and I never feel scared... just 1 time in downtown, thats all hahahah. Great city. Greetings from Puerto Rico!
Hola!! Cleveland has a really cool puerto rican population! Love me a jibarito from El Rincon Criollo in Gordon Square, shopping at Dave's Mercado, and you can skip over 30 min west and you're in Lorain which has even more Puerto Rican folks. Love y'all! Wepa!!
Lived in Cleveland (and the suburbs) my whole life, am old enough to have witnessed the city's decline and struggle to rise again. There is no denying the huge social and economic challenges we face, but we don't have earthquakes (an occasional tremblor originating under the lake), we don't get hurricanes or forest fires......some winter snow, but not usually terrible. Our sports teams have not been overwhelmingly good, but the fans are amazingly loyal and vocal. If you get sick, Cleveland is a good place to be with the Cleveland Clinic and University Hospitals right here. We have amazing theater district.....don't need to go to New York, a world famous orchestra and art museum......plus the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. We might be short on glamour, but folks here are friendly and generous. I've been other places, but for me, there's no place like home !
I really thought we were going to get a Cleveland Pittsburgh video that would have the comment section very busy. Being a life long Clevelander and never being to Detroit I have heard more arguements with Pittsburgh or Columbus.
I was tempted to ask if you were going to do Detroit and Cleveland when you posted the Detroit house value on twitter, but thought "No, there are too many cities, it's probably not Cleveland" oops.
Another common thing between the 2 cities is Billionaire Dan Gilbert, owner of the Cleveland Cavs and Cofounder/Chairman of Quicken Loans based in Detroit
Detroit city literally did a 360. Detroit is known for many things such as the eastern market, Greek town and bells island which the video never mentioned. I should add Detroit zoo, Detroit Shinola, art museum and their professional sports. Also never mentioned is the current skyscraper Detroit is building which will be the tallest out of all the buildings in Detroit and in Michigan. Last but not least Detroit was the Silicon Valley of America back in its heyday and it appears to be heading back to gain that title again thanks to Fords new building for ai and autonomous cars being built in downtown. To add Detroit was also known for building airplanes, X-ray machines, and famous music performers. The city was so ahead of the times they had the first home phones in USA, phone books (as a city) and first paved highway, police cars, traffic signal lights etc. also invented light bulb. Currently Detroit has increased in a diverse population by 1,000 in a year and many new projects all over the city. Yahoo, google etc have moved in too and more coming. Watch out The Sleeping Giant woke up. Detroit is back alive. Cleavland is also turning around too. I wish both northern cities well as they return to glory .
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia the current skyscraper you are referring to will not be the tallest building in the city/state after all. It will still be a great positive addition.
I love Cleveland & I love the greater Cleveland area, there's is a lot to do there & I love all the parks & trees surrounding the suburbs of Cleveland. So the next time anyone tells you Cleveland sucks, just know that it doesn't & the town & area are only getting better.
As an Indianapolis native (I don't live there anymore), I appreciated the overall message in this video. Both Detroit and Cleveland are fine cities with fascinating histories. I wish people felt less compelled to follow a crowd and automatically regurgitate stereotypes about places, but instead thought for themselves. Although I prefer warmer climates to call home, Detroit and Cleveland both seem like lovely places to visit.
Detroit city literally did a 360. Detroit is known for many things such as the eastern market, Greek town and bells island which the video never mentioned. I should add Detroit zoo, Detroit Shinola, art museum and their professional sports. Also never mentioned is the current skyscraper Detroit is building which will be the tallest out of all the buildings in Detroit and in Michigan. Last but not least Detroit was the Silicon Valley of America back in its heyday and it appears to be heading back to gain that title again thanks to Fords new building for ai and autonomous cars being built in downtown. To add Detroit was also known for building airplanes, X-ray machines, and famous music performers. The city was so ahead of the times they had the first home phones in USA, phone books (as a city) and first paved highway, police cars, traffic signal lights etc. also invented light bulb. Currently Detroit has increased in a diverse population by 1,000 in a year and many new projects all over the city. Yahoo, google etc have moved in too and more coming. Watch out The Sleeping Giant woke up. Detroit is back alive. Cleavland is also turning around too. I wish both northern cities well as they return to glory .c
10 comparisons id like to see San Francisco and Oakland New York and Chicago San Francisco and L.A New York vs Boston Vietnam and Cambodia Greece and Turkey Germany and France Algeria and Morocco Sudan and South Sudan Pakistan and Afghanistan
Mr. Beat St.Petersburg and Moscow? I even know a cool article about it, if you are ever going to make a video on this spb.hse.ru/soc/illuminated/news/314550885.html
As a native Metro Detroiter, I enjoyed this video! You did not mention that both NFL teams are the only two teams to go winless in a season (Detroit in 2008 and Cleveland in 2017). What makes Detroit unique is how close it is to Canada-the tunnel to Canada nor the Gordie Howe Bridge were not mentioned. (The Gordie Howe Bridge is set to open in 2024. The Ambassador Bridge is the current bridge that connects Detroit and Canada.) Detroit is really developing and becoming a very hot market. Most people I meet when I travel only hear the bad things, such as crime and poverty. Don’t quote me, but I believe in 1929 Detroit was the fastest growing city in the world. Also, the Michigan Central Station was not mentioned. All in all, I love this channel, these videos remind me of my 9th grade US History teacher who also taught my US Government class in the 11th grade. This is one of my favorite channels on RUclips!
A couple of things you missed about Detroit: Belle Isle, a wonderful Michigan State Park in the middle of the Detroit River, Detroit's version of Central Park NYC. The Detroit Institute of Arts is a world-class art museum. Wayne State University brings all the benefits of being a college town. And Detroit is just a couple of short hours from the beautiful land of lakes and forests known as Northern Michigan (5 hours from the Mackinac Bridge). Drive 2 hours in any direction from Cleveland and you either get corn or Youngstown.
I've lived in both cities. Each one is pretty amazing in its own way. It's broken my heart to see what's happened to them. I'm really glad that this video incorporates some positive things that are happening for each one.
I love your videos. Thank you for treating Detroit with respect and and giving both sides of what has gone on there and what’s in store!! I LOVE Detroit. The city can only go up from here.
Detroit city literally did a 360. Detroit is known for many things such as the eastern market, Greek town and bells island which the video never mentioned. I should add Detroit zoo, Detroit Shinola, art museum and their professional sports. Also never mentioned is the current skyscraper Detroit is building which will be the tallest out of all the buildings in Detroit and in Michigan. Last but not least Detroit was the Silicon Valley of America back in its heyday and it appears to be heading back to gain that title again thanks to Fords new building for ai and autonomous cars being built in downtown. To add Detroit was also known for building airplanes, X-ray machines, and famous music performers. The city was so ahead of the times they had the first home phones in USA, phone books (as a city) and first paved highway, police cars, traffic signal lights etc. also invented light bulb. Currently Detroit has increased in a diverse population by 1,000 in a year and many new projects all over the city. Yahoo, google etc have moved in too and more coming. Watch out The Sleeping Giant woke up. Detroit is back alive. Cleavland is also turning around too. I wish both northern cities well as they return to glory . Bff
Proud socialist detroiter Great video, glad it wasn’t politicized. Most videos about Detroit from an abstract tend to lean in a certain way, but you represent it well. Thanks for trying and being objective. Love your channel btw
so i grew up in the Cleveland area and now live 30 minutes south of Detroit. I LOVE Cleveland. well the cleveland area. so much to offer. it gets a bad rap but really surprises people when they visit. 5 star chef run restuaruants. musuems and music. sports. and the gorgeous view of the lake. Detroit is also a really nice city in the downtown area. great various cultural resturaunts. the monorail to get around easily. lors of gorgeous architecture and a lot of art. I am loving living in Michigan. Much of michigan has wonderful nature. Michigan also is o a state with one of the most waterfront properties. i actually live on an island and have nearby one of the nations protected marshlands and a park that is one of the stops for many migatory birds. we also have quite a large Bald Eagle population. Weekends you see all types of boats on the river. from small fishing boats, small and very large personal watercrafts and frieghters. The midwest gives you the most for your money. There are oppoutinities for trades and many non college jobs can be successful if you have a good blue collar work ethic. it is a well kept secret how good life can be and we kinda like it that way.
I was born in Cleveland and lived there until I was 9, in '98, at which point I moved to Georgia and have been here since. I was too young to gauge Cleveland's quality relative to anywhere else, lacking a lot of other points of reference, but my house and yard there were small and cramped, and I certainly appreciated the bigger place we upgraded to in Georgia, and the more rural surroundings. I definitely have some happy memories of the city, though. The Cleveland Metroparks Zoo and Sea World Cleveland were two of my favorite places in the world as a kid, and I spent a lot of time in the Rocky River Reservation, one of the Metroparks, especially its nature center. I remember the natural history museum being nice, too. I've made a few short trips back to Cleveland to visit family, most recently in 2013, and I've become steadily more aware of how run down and... not great... the place is, and am not in any hurry to live there again. Even the zoo didn't impress on the last visit, and of course Sea World is long gone. The Rocky River Reservation is still very nice, though, and its nature center had been totally renovated since I was a kid, I'd say it's worth a visit. I need to get back up there and visit the Cleveland Aquarium at some point. Anyway, I'm glad to know Cleveland is in the process of improving, and that Progressive Field is no longer haunted by sadness.
Cleveland went to hell in the 2000s. I used to go to SeaWorld and Geauga Lake a lot as a kid...if only Six Flags didn't buy the park and ruin it. I can't speak on the zoo but they've made improvements in the gentrification zones of the city. Plus the region's housing market finally stabilized and incomes started slowly growing again.
I've been to the new aquarium many a time. Save your money not worth. Take the time to visit the Cleveland Art museum instead, its free and consistently ranked one of the best in the nation
@@Dan_Gyros Eh, I'll still give it a try. I went to the art museum once when I was about five; I was way too young to appreciate art, so all I remember is that I knocked over a big metal guard rail (not my fault, I hardly touched it! It was just really badly balanced on its supports!). It made the loudest, most over-the-top crash you've ever heard, and just echoed through the whole building. A whole squad of security guards came charging in with their guns drawn, though they calmed right down when they realized what happened. We didn't get into any trouble or anything, but we left right away just to be safe.
Another well-made video bro! I think you're the only RUclipsr who makes such good content comparing various cities together and using useful metrics to compare them. I was actually planning on possibly moving to Ohio in the future and you're video has me dead set on Cleveland! Keep cranking out quality videos Mr. Beat!
Thank you very much for the shout-out! I really enjoyed this one, and as a Metro Detroiter, you were right on with these facts. Thankfully I haven't had to deal with the horrible Detroit rush hour commutes for a while as I've been working from home, but I'll be looking forward to that (not) once I can return to the office. Detroit isn't perfect, but it is great to see the city make a comeback. There are a lot of great parks and restaurants in downtown as well as in Midtown and Corktown. If you visit Detroit, bring your appetite!
Detroit city literally did a 360. Detroit is known for many things such as the eastern market, Greek town and bells island which the video never mentioned. I should add Detroit zoo, Detroit Shinola, art museum and their professional sports. Also never mentioned is the current skyscraper Detroit is building which will be the tallest out of all the buildings in Detroit and in Michigan. Last but not least Detroit was the Silicon Valley of America back in its heyday and it appears to be heading back to gain that title again thanks to Fords new building for ai and autonomous cars being built in downtown. To add Detroit was also known for building airplanes, X-ray machines, and famous music performers. The city was so ahead of the times they had the first home phones in USA, phone books (as a city) and first paved highway, police cars, traffic signal lights etc. also invented light bulb. Currently Detroit has increased in a diverse population by 1,000 in a year and many new projects all over the city. Yahoo, google etc have moved in too and more coming. Watch out The Sleeping Giant woke up. Detroit is back alive. Cleavland is also turning around too. I wish both northern cities well as they return to glory . Cd
Detroit city literally did a 360. Detroit is known for many things such as the eastern market, Greek town and bells island which the video never mentioned. I should add Detroit zoo, Detroit Shinola, art museum and their professional sports. Also never mentioned is the current skyscraper Detroit is building which will be the tallest out of all the buildings in Detroit and in Michigan. Last but not least Detroit was the Silicon Valley of America back in its heyday and it appears to be heading back to gain that title again thanks to Fords new building for ai and autonomous cars being built in downtown. To add Detroit was also known for building airplanes, X-ray machines, and famous music performers. The city was so ahead of the times they had the first home phones in USA, phone books (as a city) and first paved highway, police cars, traffic signal lights etc. also invented light bulb. Currently Detroit has increased in a diverse population by 1,000 in a year and many new projects all over the city. Yahoo, google etc have moved in too and more coming. Watch out The Sleeping Giant woke up. Detroit is back alive. Cleavland is also turning around too. I wish both northern cities well as they return to glory . Nite
Also I can say for sure Cleveland and probably Detroit are very segregated. Cleveland's west side is predominantly white while the east side is in many parts exclusively black.
@@kennymiller3929 west side is diverse. Areas like w117th and lorain has ton of middle eastern shops and restaurants. Down by w25th, fulton, clark area is heavily Spanish a lot of Puerto Ricans etc. Up 25th in ohio city and tremont you got ur hipster yuppie inner city area. Black mixed in all areas. But yeah east Cleveland basically all black and has the worst areas in the city.
@@WilliamMohamad-uv5fi Cleveland isn't really diverse. Majroity in the city of Cleveland is black. There are small pockets of other ethnicities, but that's far lower than black. I've lived in the area and all over cleveland for most of my life.
Cleveland has a rapid transit line and also two other light rail lines. The rapid transit line is the red line I think and it goes to the airport and goes downtown and out to the east side period and they have a blue line and a green line rapid Transit line that serves the Rock and roll Hall of Fame the museum campus and then they go out to Shaker heights and some other area. They also have the terminal tower.
@@ghordibarifilms Westside Market, Rock n Roll Hall of Fame, the Art Museum, Cleveland Orchestra, two award winning theatre companies, and the better Science Center are in Cleveland. Also Cleveland has a great Asia Town and Little Italy.
You say that Detroit has an arguably better music scene than Cleveland, but fail to mention the Cleveland Orchestra which is part of the "Big 5" and currently ranked 7th in the WORLD (2nd in the USA with Chicago Symphony ranked 1st). We also have Playhouse Square which is the second largest performing arts center in the US outside of New York City! I love living in Cleveland and I love visiting Detroit!
Both were great cities that were devastated by manufacturing loss and white flight to suburbs. Live in Cleveland but also just outside Detroit, which I go back to often. Been all over the country and these remain two of my favorite places! You can have those sparkly, growth cities of the south and southwest.Plus we have the best accents! Basically the same as the accent associated with Chicago since it is basically a Great Lakes region accent that can be heard along the shorelines in the industrial cities from Buffalo to Milwaukee.
You mean that incredibly annoying accent. Yuss, thayat's the bust. Roight onn me ann. I'm from Detroit but have lived in Cleveland for 8 years. No comparison. Cleveland area is a hundred times better.
Hey Mr. Beat, Great video!!! I am from Detroit and just want to say thank you for presenting not only the good side of Detroit but also the negative side as well. Far to often most media sources only highlight the negative side of Detroit. They always want to show the burned out blighted building and structures and never show the beautiful views and scenery of Detroit. They never talk about the good things that happen here. And you used some amazing footage. Its really appreciated. If its not already clear, I'm definitely proud of my home town, and anyone from Cleveland should be too after watching this video! Great job!
I really thought this was gonna be a completely negative video, and avoided it for a while. I was delightfully incorrect, thanks for the information! - *Metro Detroit Resident*
I can say that myself. San Francisco you’ll pay $4000 a month for a 1 bedroom apartment. In San Diego you’ll only pay $3000. 😂 But all kidding aside, San Diego has much nicer and more down-to-Earth people, not a bunch of superficial snobs like LA and The Bay Area.
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Wish you had talked about the cultural attractions in both cities. Both have arts and culture that are much more respected and influential than their populations would normally create partially as a relic of their past status. The orchestras, museums, and arts culture in both have been incredibly tenacious and resilient through the economic hardships that the cities have endured and are part of what give both cities so much life.
I’m Pittsburgh born and bred so I’m supposed to hate Cleveland but it’s actually a pretty cool city. When big industries leave a city artists and innovators take over.
Cute video. Only thing I’d say differently is that Detroit didn’t really steal the auto industry they’re the ones that started it. Henry Ford model t was made in Detroit and built the first auto plant there. Detroit has always been the hub of the auto industry. Often referred to as putting the world on wheels. Cleveland’s auto industry came after Detroit started it. Just like Flint later became an auto industrial city
As a Canadian and frequent visitor to both cities in the past, I'm quite fond of both of them. Cleveland and Detroit are about 4 hours from Toronto and both have good food, music and great people.
Yep Detroit city literally did a 360. Detroit is known for many things such as the eastern market, Greek town and bells island which the video never mentioned. I should add Detroit zoo, Detroit Shinola, art museum and their professional sports. Also never mentioned is the current skyscraper Detroit is building which will be the tallest out of all the buildings in Detroit and in Michigan. Last but not least Detroit was the Silicon Valley of America back in its heyday and it appears to be heading back to gain that title again thanks to Fords new building for ai and autonomous cars being built in downtown. To add Detroit was also known for building airplanes, X-ray machines, and famous music performers. The city was so ahead of the times they had the first home phones in USA, phone books (as a city) and first paved highway, police cars, traffic signal lights etc. also invented light bulb. Currently Detroit has increased in a diverse population by 1,000 in a year and many new projects all over the city. Yahoo, google etc have moved in too and more coming. Watch out The Sleeping Giant woke up. Detroit is back alive. Cleavland is also turning around too. I wish both northern cities well as they return to glory .
Detroit is one of the coolest cities in America. The people of Detroit are some of the most vibrant and wonderful people in the world. There’s a certain spirit about Detroit that makes it so great. Cleveland, not so much
That's actually really nice to hear that these two cities are making a comeback. Especially considering they are a lot more affordable than my area. But most places are a lot more affordable than where I'm from since I'm from Santa Rosa which is the largest city in wine country up in NorCal just an hour North of San Francisco. It's a great place to live up here in Santa Rosa, and it is large enough to have its own entertainment scene although not much of one, I have seen Lewis Black perform at the Luther Burbank center up here in Santa rosa, but most of the big events you have to go down to San Francisco to which fortunately is only an hour away. San Jose is also only 2 hours away from here and I think San Jose is a beautiful city. Sacramento is a little less than 2 hours away from here and I've been to a few conventions there as well. This reminds me we actually have toycon here in Santa Rosa although of course not this year with the pandemic . I wish I had gone to it so I'd go to a convention that's in my hometown but I just never gone. there was one year that LeVar Burton came to toycon here in Santa Rosa and I didn't go which I feel stupid for not going when it's right in my hometown. That said some people I know including friends and family have left Santa Rosa because it's just getting too expensive here. One of my best friends moved all the way to Florida. My family that had been from here for so long all moved up to Idaho where it's way more affordable. I still have friends here in Santa Rosa and my wife and I and her family still live here, but it's just getting so expensive and now that there seems to be annual fires every year near or in this area since 2017 it's getting worse. They have the audacity to keep increasing the cost of living here despite people losing their homes and businesses due to the fires. And one thing that really stands out about my hometown of Santa Rosa is that Charles Schulz actually resided here while making the Charlie Brown cartoons. We celebrate Charlie Brown all over Sonoma County. We got Charlie Brown statues all over the various towns in Sonoma county especially the largest City being Santa Rosa. We also got Snoopy statues all over and we also have Woodstock statues. We even have Lucy statues. I still remember when they were first unveiling these statues. It's been a long time since they started making these but I actually think at some point they should unveil a bunch of Linus statues as he's a pretty iconic character from the cartoon as well. what's really cool about these statues though is that they all look different. It's because each of these statues were worked on by different corporations and groups. Even one of the Charlie Brown statues actually is wearing a San Francisco Giants Jersey because the San Francisco Giants actually paid to make one. Although I am an Oakland A's fan I wish the A's would have made one too. Honestly I feel like in order to have any success in life I have to leave Santa Rosa. That is unless I somehow got lucky and found something great here. But the fact remains it just keeps getting more and more expensive here and it doesn't look like that's ever going to stop. It is a very desirable place to live but it's not fair that locals like myself who have been born and raised here are getting priced out. Especially when there's a lot of people from the most expensive city in the country San Francisco actually moving up here and increasing the cost of living as well. I love my hometown and it has such great charm, but like what so my friends have done and all my family that was from here has done I'm probably going to have to move out because it's getting too damn expensive.
Detroit city literally did a 360. Detroit is known for many things such as the eastern market, Greek town and bells island which the video never mentioned. I should add Detroit zoo, Detroit Shinola, art museum and their professional sports. Also never mentioned is the current skyscraper Detroit is building which will be the tallest out of all the buildings in Detroit and in Michigan. Last but not least Detroit was the Silicon Valley of America back in its heyday and it appears to be heading back to gain that title again thanks to Fords new building for ai and autonomous cars being built in downtown. To add Detroit was also known for building airplanes, X-ray machines, and famous music performers. The city was so ahead of the times they had the first home phones in USA, phone books (as a city) and first paved highway, police cars, traffic signal lights etc. also invented light bulb. Currently Detroit has increased in a diverse population by 1,000 in a year and many new projects all over the city. Yahoo, google etc have moved in too and more coming. Watch out The Sleeping Giant woke up. Detroit is back alive. Cleavland is also turning around too. I wish both northern cities well as they return to glory . Bbb
Awesome video!!! Living in the great state of Kansas for past 25+ years. Grew up about 45 minutes east of Cleveland along the shores of beautiful Lake Erie during 1960s-1970s. Can remember the Cuyahoga River bursting into flames late 1960s and was one of the major reasons for the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency). When all that industry left Cleveland....sad. Downtown Cleveland was so pathetic back then, you literally took your own life into your hands if out and about during hours of darkness - no matter what part of town you were in. Also remember that, during winter time, the Lake would freeze up and you could walk at least 1/4 mile or so out onto the ice. Once you started hearing the ice crack loudly, it was time to head for shore. Used to go to the local park along the shore line and spend hours watching the ore freighters sailing by and/or watching the massive waves from storms crashing along the shore line. Oh yeah, during 1990s cannot forget about the HYPERDERMIC NEEDLES from local hospitals that were taken out a few miles and dumped into Lake Erie, then they would wash up onto the beaches during storms. Had to watch where you sat or walked on a beach back then. Back then, did not pay attention or realize about all the pollution being spilled into Lake Erie from the all those cities along the shores, but we were playing in the Lake as kids - probably why I am all "odd" like today. Anyway, THANKS!!! for the memories. Oh yeah - at least Detroit & Cleveland ain't Toledo!!!!!!! Love ya Toledo!!!
Nicely done! Ultimately, I'd like to see both cities thrive, but as someone who's visited Detroit and has been Cleveland-adjacent my entire life, I have to give the nod to Cleveland. You mentioned Detroit has the better music scene, but Cleveland's orchestra is not only consistently rated one of the best in the world, its winter home--Severance Hall--garnered international acclaim after semi-recent renovations for both its architecture and superior acoustics. Additionally, the Cleveland Art Museum not only is home to some of the most recognizable works of art in the world, it's also completely free--no admission fee, though donations are always welcome. And Cleveland's theater scene is actually the second biggest in the country, after only Broadway in NYC...or so the nice tour guide aboard Lolly the Trolley told us during Cleveland's Sparx City Hop which is held most years and takes visitors around the different neighborhoods to experience Cleveland's arts scene. Like the art museum, the city hop is also free. Not only is the cost of living low in Cleveland, you can stretch your dollar even further by taking advantage of some pretty awesome free, or reasonably cheap, events.
I'm a lifelong Detroiter, and that song at beginning is hilarious. I laughed until I was almost crying 🤣🤣🤣. I knew both cities had alot of similarities because we're both rust belt cities with alot of the same social problems. Ironically, most of us in Detroit have relatives in Cleveland and vice-versa. Thank God both cities are slowly getting better because it sure couldn't get any worse lol. Great informative video, thank you for sharing 😊👍
Which city is better? Which two cities should I compare next?
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Two cities you can compare that would make a brilliant video are Manchester & Liverpool over here in the UK!
They have a huge rivalry be it music, sports, accents, industry etc it’s hilarious
But the history of the rivalry’s origins are so fascinating when you research it
Honestly I’d love to see that as a video from you :)
Take care
Detroit
Mr. Beat Detroit
How about comparing a couple of the major 🇩🇪 cities.
The one thing Detroit and Cleveland can agree on:
"At least we aren't Toledo."
cpMetis yeah Toledo is trash
I like toldeo alot more now since the pandemic hit...
"WE'RE NOT TOLEDO!"
Toledo actually has a higher population than Orlando
I WAS ABOUT TO..
There is a silver lining. 60 minutes from Cleveland and 90 minutes from Detroit is Cedar Point, and that place is awesome.
Geauga Lake was better
Cedar Point, best amusement park on the planet.... Interesting fact, Detroit is 45 minutes from Toledo and Toledo is 45 minutes from Cedar Point and 90 minutes from the Cleveland Metro... Anyone looking for a great summer weekend in this part of the country, you literally have 4 options within 45 minutes apart... Take Route 2, not the turnpike...
@@mikewebbjr.9914 have you been to Geauga Lake Amusement Park?
@@draysonjonesgreen139 Yes as a kid before it turned into Six Flags then later closed. Had fun, but Cedar Point was better to me...
@@mikewebbjr.9914 Route 2 is better during the day but that area is extremely susceptible to wild animals (mostly) at night, so I always take the Turnpike on the way home.
The Cleveland Browns won 1 game over the course of 2 years and the city threw them a parade. You can't put down a city with that high of loyalty.
They had a preseason champs parade! Ironically both teams (Browns and Lions) had zero win seasons. Of course, as luck would have it. In both years, the teams were undefeated in the preseason.
Cleveland's orchestra is very, very good; it's one of the Big Five in the US and no slouch on the world stage. The arts in general are solid here too.
Where are the other Big Five?
Detroit Symphony is also phenomenal. Comparing these two cities and not mentioning their orchestras at all is a huge oversight.
You guys also have the Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame.
@@christopheralvarado4544 New York, Boston, Chicago, and Philadelphia
@Nice One but the ones are listed are the ones that are traditionally listed as the Big 5. Not my opinion, I just got it from Wikipedia lol.
Detroit’s skyline is great, I live next door in Windsor🇨🇦
Thank you
Note Detroit city literally did a 360. Detroit is known for many things such as the eastern market, Greek town and bells island which the video never mentioned. I should add Detroit zoo, Detroit Shinola, art museum and their professional sports.
Also never mentioned is the current skyscraper Detroit is building which will be the tallest out of all the buildings in Detroit and in Michigan.
Last but not least Detroit was the Silicon Valley of America back in its heyday and it appears to be heading back to gain that title again thanks to Fords new building for AI and autonomous cars being built in downtown. To add Detroit was also known for building airplanes, X-ray machines, and famous music performers, the first record company etc. The city was so ahead of the times they had the first home phones in USA, phone books (as a city) and first paved highway, police cars, traffic signal lights etc. also invented light bulb.
Currently Detroit has increased in a diverse population by 1,000 in a year and many new projects all over the city. Yahoo, google etc have moved in too and more coming.
Watch out The Sleeping Giant woke up. Detroit is back alive. Cleavland is also turning around too. I wish both northern cities well as they return to glory .
Live 4 hours away in Toronto 👋
Thanks from Detroit
Hey I am from Windsor too.
Cleveland and Detroit are the stereotypes of the rust belt.
Pretty much
Yeah
I've lived in both. Believe me when I say, be careful trying to understand the world through stereotypes. You won't understand it at all.
@Richard Schiffman I'm native Clevelander who travelled the world and I've seen worst places than Cle.
@Richard Schiffman Youngstown and Warren are far worse. Toledo is no peach either. At least Dayton has the Air Force keeping it alive.
At least Detroit and Cleveland are making a comeback
Dan Gilbert
They arent though
@@egghat2478 They are though just because they are still loosing population doesn’t mean anything. New York City is loosing population still a great city the population decline in Detroit and Cleveland actually stabilized and is not as bad as it used to be. Many tech companies are leaving the west coast and the east coast and moving to Cleveland same thing for Detroit. Ford is actually building a electric car assembly plant in Detroit and ford is adding 20K jobs to Detroit that’s a huge boost and will really help out Detroit. And this pandemic is making people choose places like Detroit and Cleveland for the low cost of living and people are leaving cities like Los Angeles Portland and New York City. Do your research kid you know nothing about the country I bet you don’t even know what caused the decline of these once great cities in the first place. If you take a look at downtown Detroit from 2010 vs 2020 and it’s a HUGE improvement same thing with Cleveland. Really Portland Los Angeles and New York City are in huge trouble.
@@egghat2478 And the thing is I actually was born in Detroit lived in Detroit through my childhood. Moved to Cleveland in my teen years and then I moved back to Michigan and settled in Grand Rapids. I know more than you. You probably haven’t even stepped foot out of whatever state you live in.
khalil Heat and air conditioner repair i would agree Detroit is making a come back but are jobs really being opened there like crazy i herd most businesses are opening in the south for growing cities like nashville charlotte and dallas and especially since the amazon center of intelligence is opening up in nashville soon
As a Detroit Metro local, I approve this message 👍
Just got this...I forgot you lived up there!
Stay safe
@@Baddawg_313 bruh that’s still metro Detroit
@@Baddawg_313 Technically, all the way up to St. Clair county is part of the “metro area”
Yey
You missed that Cleveland has probably the best orchestra in the nation.! Cleveland Orchestra. Its a monster music town. Should be noted! As Im a Clevelander...and a cellist! Just letting' you know
Berry Gordy starting mo town records that had the Jackson 5, Jacky Robinson, Stevie wonder, marvin Gaye, Diana Ross and that’s just getting started lol
@@karlp557 that fine...its not Classical music...George Szell. Lorin Maazel. its not Pop culture...
@@HopeEaston007 plus Pierre Boulez, Robert Shaw, von Dohnanyi, Welser Most, Ernst Bloch, Apollo's Fire, Oberlin, Baldwin Wallace, Cleveland Institute of Music, Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame
@@thedoeguy Yes and 3 of my cello teachers and my step father! God bless Cleveland!! oxoxo Hope blessed..
I've never experienced anything like seeing Cleveland Orchestra in Severance Hall. Don't get me wrong, I love Motown but my daughter is a violinist so I feel incredibly fortunate to be able to take her there. I live on Catawba Island but work in Toledo.
Detroit is like “At least we aren’t FLINT!”
Flint be like: "At least we aren't SAINT LOUIS!"
"At least we're not KANSAS"
-St. Louis (i think)
Flint is like "...." (dead due to poisoned water).
Not Humorous, Lead In Water Is Life Threatening 🤫
Or Saginaw
Buda vs pest the only city rivalry with a happy ending
It must have been very happy for Buda x Pest shippers but Buda x Bratislava shippers are still grudgy about it.
Sounds like a future video
at least it's not detroit
It's actually a trilogy. Buda vs Óbuda vs Pest.
I guess you are unfamiliar with Pittsburgh and Allegheny City?
Im from Oregon but I've been to Cleveland twice in the last decade and actually really liked it. The architecture of the older downtown buildings has a "Gothic" feel to it.
Overall I like a lot of the dominant Architecture along the Great Lakes States. Plenty of modern stuff but a lot of it is old fashioned and maintained rather than remodeled. My home Town in Huntington has looked like it’s been stuck in the 90’s for decades.
Detroit has some gothic style churches, and also has some pretty cool art deco style buildings. Look up Albert Kahn for some more specifics.
to me, rust belt cities are the most underrated cities in the country
Agreed!
Agree..Detroit city literally did a 360. Detroit is known for many things such as the eastern market, Greek town and bells island which the video never mentioned. I should add Detroit zoo, Detroit Shinola, art museum and their professional sports.
Also never mentioned is the current skyscraper Detroit is building which will be the tallest out of all the buildings in Detroit and in Michigan.
Last but not least Detroit was the Silicon Valley of America back in its heyday and it appears to be heading back to gain that title again thanks to Fords new building for ai and autonomous cars being built in downtown. To add Detroit was also known for building airplanes, X-ray machines, and famous music performers. The city was so ahead of the times they had the first home phones in USA, phone books (as a city) and first paved highway, police cars, traffic signal lights etc. also invented light bulb.
Currently Detroit has increased in a diverse population by 1,000 in a year and many new projects all over the city. Yahoo, google etc have moved in too and more coming.
Watch out The Sleeping Giant woke up. Detroit is back alive. Cleavland is also turning around too. I wish both northern cities well as they return to glory .
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia I think you mean Detroit did a 180. A 360 is a circle, you just end up where you started.
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia Belle Isle, The Hudson's Tower is no longer going to be taller than the Renaissance Center.
@@lucasmossman3820 I think NY is alright, I like the architecture of the city, it isn't really rust belt though.
Who from Cleveland!?
All my life
Me!
Bryant Avant what part
Me! Lotta my friends wanna leave ohio to study in out of state colleges. Not me. Love cleveland
@@rafmaciejewski7477 Hell yeah . It’s cheap and we can carry our guns around
I’ve lived in both cities. Now I’m in Cleveland. I will say Detroit was way more fun for me as far as night life and shopping/dining but I can’t speak for everyone. Cleveland has better site seeing for me out in the suburbs (where most people really live) beautiful parks and arts. If I would have to choose it would be Cleveland only because the cost of living and great suburbs to choose from that are very affordable and well kept. Not saying Detroit doesn’t have that but suburbs around Detroit can be pretty expensive (but well worth it). You can’t judge the two from this video. Travel to both, they both have a lot to offer.
You could do Cincinnati and Pittsburgh, both on the Ohio River and in the Rust belt and have been on a decline and have a GREAT sports rivalry!
Oh I hadn't thought of that one!
@@iammrbeat They both are also relatively hilly (more so Pittsburgh), which makes from some very interesting vistas and landscapes.
@@iammrbeat You can also do another video on Columbus vs. Ann Arbor home to the largest public universities in the country. Ohio State and University of Michigan
Although I'd say Pittsburgh hasn't been on the decline for quite a while now. No idea about Cincinnati but agree that would be a great video
kam2244 X lol you must not have been to PGH much. Worst place I’ve ever lived
Forgot to mention the #1 cardiac care in the world is in Cleveland: The Cleveland Clinic
Great hospital
I've actually lived in both cities before. They're both pretty awesome.
But is it a great place to live there?
@@copperdan1275 nah theyre one of the most dangerous cities
@This is NOT SWEETIE OKAY! y?
I honestly feel bad for these cities Detroit had a population of 1.8 million people in its peak in 1950 while Cleveland had a population around 900k. I blame the politician for the destroying Detroit.
@@deyoungyoung3059 ruclips.net/video/ZzPDFeE9csA/видео.html
I am from Cleveland and very proud, a few things that you missed, one of the best hospitals in the world, a top orchestra and art museum. We also have one of the wealthiest communities in the country and it has been a very long time since we were a mistake on the lake. Also don’t forget the show Hot in Cleveland!
@Mike Lowrey it's true. There is Cleveland Clinics in places like Dubai and Singapore for heart care
Thank you!!!!!
The Cleveland Clinic is pretty good, my dad currently works there. That's very different though
He mentioned healthcare.
@@wyattearpswoman838 What's that?
I feel like Cleveland clinic should of been mentioned, since we are renowned in health care. 216 all day.
should have
Cincinnati Children's is something they'd skip, too. It's weird how the health side of things are rarely mentioned.
Cleveland clinic is the best hospital I have ever been to
Love Cleveland Clinic Wellness Center!
Very true!!!!
Why do you not live in Detroit or Cleveland? !
3 lines later
They have the worst air pollution in the US
I mean, breathing is overrated.
@@iammrbeat Hold your breath!
This statement is just simply not true. How about do some research instead of speaking out of you a**.
But keep in mind, the other option is LA. He didn't say "Hey, move out of Missoula, MT," he said LA, which is not exactly know for its pristine atmosphere.
Detroit at least, does not have bad air pollution
Cleveland's population has gone down but the downtown population has increased dramatically over the past decades. Alot of new development in the downtown and its actually nice to walk around. I dont know about other parts of the city though
CLE has Improvided many areas, but East CLE remains the same (bad). The suburbs are growing faster than the city today since you know how us the lifestyle of city vs a nice house in the burbs.
When I came to Cleveland everyone have a least 4 kids.. there was children everywhere now the millennials are childless.. I'm sure no to many people left.. when they do they always comeback.. I don't know a single person who have left and don't come back I left 3 times and stay for good now for 26 years. Cleveland is easy ! Unfortunately Dogs are the new generation population
@@thethreatwrestling.7053 They keep electing corrupt leaders..
I’m from Cleveland. Live downtown, and work in the city, ive lived on the west coast and have lived in the south as well, and keep coming home. It’s not the prettiest and it’s not fancy but for the most part Cleveland people are inherently good, and just hard working people. I love it here!! It’s not terrible at all ❤️
I would argue University Circle and Playhouse Square are pretty fancy.
Oh and the main campus of Cleveland Clinic.
I also live there and North Olmsted has great schools
Like AMAZING 🤩
i was born there, not raised. Was raised on a horse farm in Sacramento. i lived all over California. Was even stained there.
i have lived in Cleveland twice. Last was 2001-2003 to assist my ailing, now late, grandfather. Overall, Cleveland is just okay in my opinion.
That snow ❄️, man. i eventually dealt with it. In fact, after work, i would jog four miles home in it. But, i would rather do without that snow. Loved its culture and museums. Women are much better also. ESPECIALLY than a lot women in Las Vegas.
I was Born in deconis hospital in 1982,, There is a whole city named Cleveland, not just downtown. Venture farther than the "flats" and "ohio city" you may just change your opinion, I was just up there for family business and the divide between race and class has never been higher, your safe in your bubble I suppose, might do well to stick there.
Everyone needs to thank Detroit for saving us in World War II. This historical City carried the country on its back!
I wondered how he missed that.
NOO CAP
Good point (from a native Cle).
@Sean O’ Deli GM is in Detroit
@Sean O’ Deli Ford and Chrysler?
I've lived in the Cleveland area my whole life, so I'm a little biased. However, I think in order to experience Cleveland, and probably Detroit, is to have a local take you around. Everyone loves to shit on Cleveland, even the mayor who called us the butthole of the world, but I've learned over the years that the locals secretly hate on Cleveland so no one moves here and destroys this hidden gem of a city. I mean Cleveland has a phenomenal theatre scene, the local food and brewery scenes are thriving, there's a National Park just out of town and the Cleveland Metroparks make up the Emerald Necklace. I moved out of the area for several years during and after college, but having travelled coast to coast, there's something about Cleveland that just drew me back. I think it's the city experience but with friendly small town atmosphere. Anyone reading this who has ever been a Cleveland sceptic, I assure you that we're worth a visit!
shhh dont tell them that
Yea this is true Cleveland is on of those places that doesn’t want other to come and know about how cool it is. The city is on a coast, I don’t think people realize that.
Thank you For being honest
Yeah it is!!
Stop drinking the Kool Aid.
I lived in Cleveland in the early 2000s, my daughter was born in Cleveland in 2004. I like Cleveland but it has a long way to go. I haven't visited Detroit yet. The job market is improving in both cities especially with Amazon having multiple locations in both cities.
Born in 99, my neighborhood wasn't the greatest (East side) but I still wish the best for the city. It deserved a lot for what it's provided in the past
Oh we're so lucky to have the corporate overlords providing jobs for these shit cities. What would be cool is if the citizens themselves could fix it. Not some outside Corp looking to capitalize off all the poor people in these cities.
@@brandofield1280Amazon is providing good paying jobs for those citizens. They pay $15/hour which is good money in those cities. That is good for the economy as a whole because it generates jobs and revenue.
Dessie Solomon $15hr jobs arent the kind that improve a job market. It will keep the city from starving for another decade though.
A lot has changed since 04'.
I appreciate all the Canada shoutouts, great vid as per usual!
Also I got a hot rec for ya: Canberra and Ottawa compared (both purpose built capitals in a central location between the two largest cities of their respective country)
I like it, but I could also throw in a Brazil or even DC in there for such a comparison. :)
@@iammrbeat True say amigo, I hadn't considered the other purpose built capitals of the new world. Anyway great vid tho, I really appreciate your content!!
Honesty Canberra is too small and has little people. Ottawa is a decently large city.
@@seanhartnett79 True say, that is a good point.
Or Ottawa and DC compared
I was visiting Cleveland as a tourist (I'm from Puerto Rico) and I don't know if i'm crazy or not but I'm in love with Cleveland goddd Idk why but it has everything, its like having a great city, with everything in it and then a beautiful metropark with lot of nature. Idk, I just loved that and I never feel scared... just 1 time in downtown, thats all hahahah. Great city.
Greetings from Puerto Rico!
Hola!! Cleveland has a really cool puerto rican population! Love me a jibarito from El Rincon Criollo in Gordon Square, shopping at Dave's Mercado, and you can skip over 30 min west and you're in Lorain which has even more Puerto Rican folks.
Love y'all! Wepa!!
@@Margar02 Wait really??! If I go to Cleveland this winter I will go there I swear hahahah
greetings from Cle! I wanna go to PR. I love downtown. you should go there during winter. They might have the winter lights this year
@@Margar02 yeah I've seen a lot of Puerto Ricans here. I mostly see them on the west side tho. by like downtown but a little farther
@@Nene-colossal yes, around west 65th, ridge, and Denison, and down into old brooklyn!
Lived in Cleveland (and the suburbs) my whole life, am old enough to have witnessed the city's decline and struggle to rise again. There is no denying the huge social and economic challenges we face, but we don't have earthquakes (an occasional tremblor originating under the lake), we don't get hurricanes or forest fires......some winter snow, but not usually terrible. Our sports teams have not been overwhelmingly good, but the fans are amazingly loyal and vocal. If you get sick, Cleveland is a good place to be with the Cleveland Clinic and University Hospitals right here. We have amazing theater district.....don't need to go to New York, a world famous orchestra and art museum......plus the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. We might be short on glamour, but folks here are friendly and generous. I've been other places, but for me, there's no place like home !
Cleveland sucks ass
As a Clevelander, I've been waiting for this video for FOREVER
Glad I finally made it. :)
@@johndubay2393 I hope nothing but the best for both of our hometowns in the future. Respects from Cleveland.
As least you aren't Detroit
I really thought we were going to get a Cleveland Pittsburgh video that would have the comment section very busy. Being a life long Clevelander and never being to Detroit I have heard more arguements with Pittsburgh or Columbus.
Why are they even comparing Motown to Slowtown.
Detroit is three times bigger than Cleveland, Ohio. Much more fast paced. Much more exciting...
The two lovable losers: Browns and Lions.
Edit: Wow, the Browns are doing good. How times changed
damn
Damn you’re brutal lol
Not last night!! Browns brought it after that crush from the Ravens last weekend!! Go Browns!!! Die Hard Browns fan!!!
FRAG OUT I know, I’m talking about the Super Bowl era as a whole.
I'm a Chiefs fan, and I always root for the Lions and Browns when they aren't playing the Chiefs.
Cleveland is the city where we come from so run runnn
Bone Thugs
😎😎
East 1999 dee 9 9 9 niiiiine
At least Detroit’s football team didn’t take off for Baltimore
@@parkedcar3411 that had nothing to do with the players or the people of Cleveland lol. That was all on Art Modell
I am from Cleveland however, now live in Harlem. I miss Cleveland and had a great time when I lived there. GREAT VIDEO
Cleveland is nothing special, but it's my home,
Based on your channel logo I would have thought Cleveland was your neighbor
Sammy K. Please delete this
@@Sammykyt lol
@@plagiarismCR No
@@Nene-colossal Thx
I was tempted to ask if you were going to do Detroit and Cleveland when you posted the Detroit house value on twitter, but thought "No, there are too many cities, it's probably not Cleveland" oops.
haha yep, I often Tweet about whatever rabbit hold I've gone down
@@iammrbeat We’re both old enough to remember the $1 Detroit houses on the news back in the day.
Another common thing between the 2 cities is Billionaire Dan Gilbert, owner of the Cleveland Cavs and Cofounder/Chairman of Quicken Loans based in Detroit
But Dan was born and raised in Detroit
Detroit city literally did a 360. Detroit is known for many things such as the eastern market, Greek town and bells island which the video never mentioned. I should add Detroit zoo, Detroit Shinola, art museum and their professional sports.
Also never mentioned is the current skyscraper Detroit is building which will be the tallest out of all the buildings in Detroit and in Michigan.
Last but not least Detroit was the Silicon Valley of America back in its heyday and it appears to be heading back to gain that title again thanks to Fords new building for ai and autonomous cars being built in downtown. To add Detroit was also known for building airplanes, X-ray machines, and famous music performers. The city was so ahead of the times they had the first home phones in USA, phone books (as a city) and first paved highway, police cars, traffic signal lights etc. also invented light bulb.
Currently Detroit has increased in a diverse population by 1,000 in a year and many new projects all over the city. Yahoo, google etc have moved in too and more coming.
Watch out The Sleeping Giant woke up. Detroit is back alive. Cleavland is also turning around too. I wish both northern cities well as they return to glory .
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia I mean it is pretty obvious that Columbus is a lot better than both of the cities
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia the current skyscraper you are referring to will not be the tallest building in the city/state after all. It will still be a great positive addition.
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia Belle Isle
I love Cleveland & I love the greater Cleveland area, there's is a lot to do there & I love all the parks & trees surrounding the suburbs of Cleveland. So the next time anyone tells you Cleveland sucks, just know that it doesn't & the town & area are only getting better.
FOREST CITY, for real
It sucks. They are trying, but they have a long way to go
@@PrettyINCs Lol! Hater..
@@PrettyINCs we have some of the best metro parks in the country
@@antoniocampbell9190 according to who? Definitely not in the top 10.
In an alternate universe, there's a black man in Family Guy called Detroit Brown
No, that show is called Family Dude.
*detroit white
And a failed spin-off called The Detroit Show.
Detroit Lyons*
As an Indianapolis native (I don't live there anymore), I appreciated the overall message in this video. Both Detroit and Cleveland are fine cities with fascinating histories. I wish people felt less compelled to follow a crowd and automatically regurgitate stereotypes about places, but instead thought for themselves. Although I prefer warmer climates to call home, Detroit and Cleveland both seem like lovely places to visit.
Why are social studies teachers the coolest people?
I dunno. They just are!
Ikr
They arent most of the time tbey are biased retards who regurgitate the same thing year after year after year
Egg Hat Don’t be an egg hat.
@@shannonbeat u cute
I've been to Detroit over a year ago, they have pretty good pizza and Coney dogs over there
I knew you'd be here
Detroit style pizza is phenomenal. I should have mentioned it in the video.
JETS Pizza is where it's at
Detroit city literally did a 360. Detroit is known for many things such as the eastern market, Greek town and bells island which the video never mentioned. I should add Detroit zoo, Detroit Shinola, art museum and their professional sports.
Also never mentioned is the current skyscraper Detroit is building which will be the tallest out of all the buildings in Detroit and in Michigan.
Last but not least Detroit was the Silicon Valley of America back in its heyday and it appears to be heading back to gain that title again thanks to Fords new building for ai and autonomous cars being built in downtown. To add Detroit was also known for building airplanes, X-ray machines, and famous music performers. The city was so ahead of the times they had the first home phones in USA, phone books (as a city) and first paved highway, police cars, traffic signal lights etc. also invented light bulb.
Currently Detroit has increased in a diverse population by 1,000 in a year and many new projects all over the city. Yahoo, google etc have moved in too and more coming.
Watch out The Sleeping Giant woke up. Detroit is back alive. Cleavland is also turning around too. I wish both northern cities well as they return to glory .c
GASP you’ve surprised me once more Avery
10 comparisons id like to see
San Francisco and Oakland
New York and Chicago
San Francisco and L.A
New York vs Boston
Vietnam and Cambodia
Greece and Turkey
Germany and France
Algeria and Morocco
Sudan and South Sudan
Pakistan and Afghanistan
Great list, and many I already had on my own "to make" list. :)
Mr. Beat St.Petersburg and Moscow? I even know a cool article about it, if you are ever going to make a video on this spb.hse.ru/soc/illuminated/news/314550885.html
California cities are the worse these days
@@МаксимШатохин-н7ы
What about Stockholm and Oslo ?
Germany and France are too big . Paris or Berlin .
As a native Metro Detroiter, I enjoyed this video! You did not mention that both NFL teams are the only two teams to go winless in a season (Detroit in 2008 and Cleveland in 2017). What makes Detroit unique is how close it is to Canada-the tunnel to Canada nor the Gordie Howe Bridge were not mentioned. (The Gordie Howe Bridge is set to open in 2024. The Ambassador Bridge is the current bridge that connects Detroit and Canada.) Detroit is really developing and becoming a very hot market. Most people I meet when I travel only hear the bad things, such as crime and poverty. Don’t quote me, but I believe in 1929 Detroit was the fastest growing city in the world. Also, the Michigan Central Station was not mentioned. All in all, I love this channel, these videos remind me of my 9th grade US History teacher who also taught my US Government class in the 11th grade. This is one of my favorite channels on RUclips!
A couple of things you missed about Detroit: Belle Isle, a wonderful Michigan State Park in the middle of the Detroit River, Detroit's version of Central Park NYC. The Detroit Institute of Arts is a world-class art museum. Wayne State University brings all the benefits of being a college town. And Detroit is just a couple of short hours from the beautiful land of lakes and forests known as Northern Michigan (5 hours from the Mackinac Bridge). Drive 2 hours in any direction from Cleveland and you either get corn or Youngstown.
Thank you!
I've lived in both cities. Each one is pretty amazing in its own way. It's broken my heart to see what's happened to them. I'm really glad that this video incorporates some positive things that are happening for each one.
That's awesome you've lived in both. I guess I made this video for you. :)
I love your videos.
Thank you for treating Detroit with respect and and giving both sides of what has gone on there and what’s in store!! I LOVE Detroit. The city can only go up from here.
Detroit city literally did a 360. Detroit is known for many things such as the eastern market, Greek town and bells island which the video never mentioned. I should add Detroit zoo, Detroit Shinola, art museum and their professional sports.
Also never mentioned is the current skyscraper Detroit is building which will be the tallest out of all the buildings in Detroit and in Michigan.
Last but not least Detroit was the Silicon Valley of America back in its heyday and it appears to be heading back to gain that title again thanks to Fords new building for ai and autonomous cars being built in downtown. To add Detroit was also known for building airplanes, X-ray machines, and famous music performers. The city was so ahead of the times they had the first home phones in USA, phone books (as a city) and first paved highway, police cars, traffic signal lights etc. also invented light bulb.
Currently Detroit has increased in a diverse population by 1,000 in a year and many new projects all over the city. Yahoo, google etc have moved in too and more coming.
Watch out The Sleeping Giant woke up. Detroit is back alive. Cleavland is also turning around too. I wish both northern cities well as they return to glory . Bff
I live in metro Detroit, you were 100% accurate on your info for Detroit.
I tried to be as objective as possible.
Mr. Beat I agree and i live in metro Detroit
Proud Catholic Anti communist and I actually live in Detroit. The city, though it has its big flaws, is an amazing city
Proud socialist detroiter
Great video, glad it wasn’t politicized. Most videos about Detroit from an abstract tend to lean in a certain way, but you represent it well. Thanks for trying and being objective.
Love your channel btw
I live in Chicago but I love visiting Detroit
so i grew up in the Cleveland area and now live 30 minutes south of Detroit. I LOVE Cleveland. well the cleveland area. so much to offer. it gets a bad rap but really surprises people when they visit. 5 star chef run restuaruants. musuems and music. sports. and the gorgeous view of the lake. Detroit is also a really nice city in the downtown area. great various cultural resturaunts. the monorail to get around easily. lors of gorgeous architecture and a lot of art. I am loving living in Michigan. Much of michigan has wonderful nature. Michigan also is o a state with one of the most waterfront properties. i actually live on an island and have nearby one of the nations protected marshlands and a park that is one of the stops for many migatory birds. we also have quite a large Bald Eagle population. Weekends you see all types of boats on the river. from small fishing boats, small and very large personal watercrafts and frieghters. The midwest gives you the most for your money. There are oppoutinities for trades and many non college jobs can be successful if you have a good blue collar work ethic. it is a well kept secret how good life can be and we kinda like it that way.
Detroit is flat as a pancake & Cleveland has rolling hills!
"Ethnically diverse" is not 80% black...
I was born in Cleveland and lived there until I was 9, in '98, at which point I moved to Georgia and have been here since. I was too young to gauge Cleveland's quality relative to anywhere else, lacking a lot of other points of reference, but my house and yard there were small and cramped, and I certainly appreciated the bigger place we upgraded to in Georgia, and the more rural surroundings. I definitely have some happy memories of the city, though. The Cleveland Metroparks Zoo and Sea World Cleveland were two of my favorite places in the world as a kid, and I spent a lot of time in the Rocky River Reservation, one of the Metroparks, especially its nature center. I remember the natural history museum being nice, too.
I've made a few short trips back to Cleveland to visit family, most recently in 2013, and I've become steadily more aware of how run down and... not great... the place is, and am not in any hurry to live there again. Even the zoo didn't impress on the last visit, and of course Sea World is long gone. The Rocky River Reservation is still very nice, though, and its nature center had been totally renovated since I was a kid, I'd say it's worth a visit. I need to get back up there and visit the Cleveland Aquarium at some point.
Anyway, I'm glad to know Cleveland is in the process of improving, and that Progressive Field is no longer haunted by sadness.
Thanks for sharing all that. The city still has a ways to go, but at least it's on the up and up.
Cleveland went to hell in the 2000s. I used to go to SeaWorld and Geauga Lake a lot as a kid...if only Six Flags didn't buy the park and ruin it. I can't speak on the zoo but they've made improvements in the gentrification zones of the city. Plus the region's housing market finally stabilized and incomes started slowly growing again.
I've been to the new aquarium many a time. Save your money not worth. Take the time to visit the Cleveland Art museum instead, its free and consistently ranked one of the best in the nation
@@Dan_Gyros Eh, I'll still give it a try. I went to the art museum once when I was about five; I was way too young to appreciate art, so all I remember is that I knocked over a big metal guard rail (not my fault, I hardly touched it! It was just really badly balanced on its supports!). It made the loudest, most over-the-top crash you've ever heard, and just echoed through the whole building. A whole squad of security guards came charging in with their guns drawn, though they calmed right down when they realized what happened. We didn't get into any trouble or anything, but we left right away just to be safe.
Another well-made video bro! I think you're the only RUclipsr who makes such good content comparing various cities together and using useful metrics to compare them. I was actually planning on possibly moving to Ohio in the future and you're video has me dead set on Cleveland!
Keep cranking out quality videos Mr. Beat!
The Balloonfest, that was a disaster for Cleveland
I'm sure you're rocket fest can't be a disaster Supreme Leader.
Didn't you plan something similar for North Korea?
It wasn’t a disaster, the Internet has turned it into a disaster. I blame RUclips, and people trying to get hits on their videos
Don't forget 10cent beer night.
Great video.
I live just outside of Cleveland, it truly is fun and Beautiful. Lots to do, eat, and see. I'd really recommend a visit.
The fact that you showed the entire “Cleveland” trilogy is why this channel is different in the best way
Thank you very much for the shout-out! I really enjoyed this one, and as a Metro Detroiter, you were right on with these facts. Thankfully I haven't had to deal with the horrible Detroit rush hour commutes for a while as I've been working from home, but I'll be looking forward to that (not) once I can return to the office. Detroit isn't perfect, but it is great to see the city make a comeback. There are a lot of great parks and restaurants in downtown as well as in Midtown and Corktown. If you visit Detroit, bring your appetite!
Hi Scott!
@@shannonbeat Hi there!
Detroit city literally did a 360. Detroit is known for many things such as the eastern market, Greek town and bells island which the video never mentioned. I should add Detroit zoo, Detroit Shinola, art museum and their professional sports.
Also never mentioned is the current skyscraper Detroit is building which will be the tallest out of all the buildings in Detroit and in Michigan.
Last but not least Detroit was the Silicon Valley of America back in its heyday and it appears to be heading back to gain that title again thanks to Fords new building for ai and autonomous cars being built in downtown. To add Detroit was also known for building airplanes, X-ray machines, and famous music performers. The city was so ahead of the times they had the first home phones in USA, phone books (as a city) and first paved highway, police cars, traffic signal lights etc. also invented light bulb.
Currently Detroit has increased in a diverse population by 1,000 in a year and many new projects all over the city. Yahoo, google etc have moved in too and more coming.
Watch out The Sleeping Giant woke up. Detroit is back alive. Cleavland is also turning around too. I wish both northern cities well as they return to glory . Cd
Appreciate the video! Coming from a native Detroiter!
Awesome! Thank you!
Detroit city literally did a 360. Detroit is known for many things such as the eastern market, Greek town and bells island which the video never mentioned. I should add Detroit zoo, Detroit Shinola, art museum and their professional sports.
Also never mentioned is the current skyscraper Detroit is building which will be the tallest out of all the buildings in Detroit and in Michigan.
Last but not least Detroit was the Silicon Valley of America back in its heyday and it appears to be heading back to gain that title again thanks to Fords new building for ai and autonomous cars being built in downtown. To add Detroit was also known for building airplanes, X-ray machines, and famous music performers. The city was so ahead of the times they had the first home phones in USA, phone books (as a city) and first paved highway, police cars, traffic signal lights etc. also invented light bulb.
Currently Detroit has increased in a diverse population by 1,000 in a year and many new projects all over the city. Yahoo, google etc have moved in too and more coming.
Watch out The Sleeping Giant woke up. Detroit is back alive. Cleavland is also turning around too. I wish both northern cities well as they return to glory . Nite
“ethnically diverse” *80% black*
The Detroit metro is very diverse. Cleveland too. Not the inner city, the fucking metro. Tons of arabs in both cities. Hispanics and whites too
ever heard of Dearborn or Hamtramck ?
Also I can say for sure Cleveland and probably Detroit are very segregated. Cleveland's west side is predominantly white while the east side is in many parts exclusively black.
@@kennymiller3929 west side is diverse. Areas like w117th and lorain has ton of middle eastern shops and restaurants. Down by w25th, fulton, clark area is heavily Spanish a lot of Puerto Ricans etc. Up 25th in ohio city and tremont you got ur hipster yuppie inner city area. Black mixed in all areas. But yeah east Cleveland basically all black and has the worst areas in the city.
@@WilliamMohamad-uv5fi Cleveland isn't really diverse. Majroity in the city of Cleveland is black. There are small pockets of other ethnicities, but that's far lower than black.
I've lived in the area and all over cleveland for most of my life.
You failed to mention our art museum in Cleveland. Its one of the top in the country. Our hospitals are pretty great too..
*screams in Minnesota Mayo Clinic*
Cleveland has a rapid transit line and also two other light rail lines. The rapid transit line is the red line I think and it goes to the airport and goes downtown and out to the east side period and they have a blue line and a green line rapid Transit line that serves the Rock and roll Hall of Fame the museum campus and then they go out to Shaker heights and some other area. They also have the terminal tower.
Im surprised Belle Isle and Eastern market wasn’t mentioned for Detroit tourist spots
Cleveland doesn't have much. He had to make it an even fight. We've got tons of attractions, Greektown, D.I.A., Science Center, etc.
@@ghordibarifilms Westside Market, Rock n Roll Hall of Fame, the Art Museum, Cleveland Orchestra, two award winning theatre companies, and the better Science Center are in Cleveland. Also Cleveland has a great Asia Town and Little Italy.
Also Cedar Point is closer to us so we claim ownership on that one lol
@@CalamackLP and don't forget... Bone Thugs n Harmony 😂😂😂
You say that Detroit has an arguably better music scene than Cleveland, but fail to mention the Cleveland Orchestra which is part of the "Big 5" and currently ranked 7th in the WORLD (2nd in the USA with Chicago Symphony ranked 1st). We also have Playhouse Square which is the second largest performing arts center in the US outside of New York City!
I love living in Cleveland and I love visiting Detroit!
These channels don’t really know what they are talking about. Fake news 😂
Both were great cities that were devastated by manufacturing loss and white flight to suburbs. Live in Cleveland but also just outside Detroit, which I go back to often. Been all over the country and these remain two of my favorite places! You can have those sparkly, growth cities of the south and southwest.Plus we have the best accents! Basically the same as the accent associated with Chicago since it is basically a Great Lakes region accent that can be heard along the shorelines in the industrial cities from Buffalo to Milwaukee.
You mean that incredibly annoying accent. Yuss, thayat's the bust. Roight onn me ann. I'm from Detroit but have lived in Cleveland for 8 years. No comparison. Cleveland area is a hundred times better.
Hey Mr. Beat, Great video!!! I am from Detroit and just want to say thank you for presenting not only the good side of Detroit but also the negative side as well. Far to often most media sources only highlight the negative side of Detroit. They always want to show the burned out blighted building and structures and never show the beautiful views and scenery of Detroit. They never talk about the good things that happen here. And you used some amazing footage. Its really appreciated. If its not already clear, I'm definitely proud of my home town, and anyone from Cleveland should be too after watching this video! Great job!
I really thought this was gonna be a completely negative video, and avoided it for a while. I was delightfully incorrect, thanks for the information! - *Metro Detroit Resident*
Me too and I gotta tell you. He did a great job.
Detroiter here.. good video. I'm 65 yo..been in Detroit, now metro Detroit most of my life..all of my schooling up to college ☺️
How about comparing San Francisco and San Diego next?
He might did it already. Check out his play list.
I do like that suggestion
I can say that myself. San Francisco you’ll pay $4000 a month for a 1 bedroom apartment. In San Diego you’ll only pay $3000. 😂
But all kidding aside, San Diego has much nicer and more down-to-Earth people, not a bunch of superficial snobs like LA and The Bay Area.
@@jondstewart When I was in SD, I paid 1320 a month for a one bedroom. It's really no comparison.
@@jondstewart loser
“Since the 1980’s both cities have been in recovery mode.” After 40 years, still nowhere to go but up, except possibly sideways.
Detroit and Cleveland: "at least we aren't Port-au-Prince"
You watch your non-Haitian mouth. We just finished paying billions back to France for allowing us to not be slaves.
@@kingmelanin7468 should've join the USA immediately, the debt would've been paid way earlier
lmao
or Gary or Tijuana
@@kingmelanin7468 You were much better under France.
You forgot to mention Detroit lions and Cleveland brown’s are the only two teams to go 0-16
Finally Detroit my home city.
Represent!
DETTRROIITTT LOOVVEEEEE
@Michigan Mapping since you live on our west coast, have you ever been to south haven, mi?
@Michigan Mapping ohh ! cool
Never been to either city, can't wait to do some more traveling as soon as this pandemic is over👍
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Despite all the shit it gets the right side of Detroit is really nice and enjoyable.
You and me both. We got this!
Visit the suburbs of Cleveland, lots of parks & trees around the area & some really nice towns.
Me neither and me too. Well, unless you count a layover back in 2008.
Wish you had talked about the cultural attractions in both cities. Both have arts and culture that are much more respected and influential than their populations would normally create partially as a relic of their past status. The orchestras, museums, and arts culture in both have been incredibly tenacious and resilient through the economic hardships that the cities have endured and are part of what give both cities so much life.
One of the economists i work with has a saying, "the Midwest is my favorite emerging market" 😂 guess it's true
Why not Chicago and Detroit?
Since you did Cleveland and Detroit
Columbus and Grand Rapids? (Though you probably should substitute GR for Ann Arbor)
Grand Rapids city tops the best
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia I chose ann arbor to match up with Columbus being home to That Team Down South
@@therast5 Columbus is like Grand Rapids, Lansing and Ann Arbor rolled into one, basically.
I’m Pittsburgh born and bred so I’m supposed to hate Cleveland but it’s actually a pretty cool city. When big industries leave a city artists and innovators take over.
How have I never heard "mistake on the lake", that is brilliant
Simple, yet effective.
Are you like 12? Maybe that would be why. How has somebody not heard that haha.
it’s been around for years lol
That's the most common nickname. Im a life long clevelander and i never heard of Forest City
@@nitsuanomrah6997 Forest City is/was a company. I don't know if they're still around. I too have never heard of it as a nickname for Cleveland.
Cute video. Only thing I’d say differently is that Detroit didn’t really steal the auto industry they’re the ones that started it. Henry Ford model t was made in Detroit and built the first auto plant there. Detroit has always been the hub of the auto industry. Often referred to as putting the world on wheels. Cleveland’s auto industry came after Detroit started it. Just like Flint later became an auto industrial city
Cleveland was also the first U.S. city to have a stop light.
Detroit was the first to have a go light tho.
As a Canadian and frequent visitor to both cities in the past, I'm quite fond of both of them. Cleveland and Detroit are about 4 hours from Toronto and both have good food, music and great people.
Detroiter here! Detroit built the 20th century, never forget it! #CityThatPutTheWorldOnWheels #GreatArsenalOfDetroit
Heck yeah, represent
Yep Detroit city literally did a 360. Detroit is known for many things such as the eastern market, Greek town and bells island which the video never mentioned. I should add Detroit zoo, Detroit Shinola, art museum and their professional sports.
Also never mentioned is the current skyscraper Detroit is building which will be the tallest out of all the buildings in Detroit and in Michigan.
Last but not least Detroit was the Silicon Valley of America back in its heyday and it appears to be heading back to gain that title again thanks to Fords new building for ai and autonomous cars being built in downtown. To add Detroit was also known for building airplanes, X-ray machines, and famous music performers. The city was so ahead of the times they had the first home phones in USA, phone books (as a city) and first paved highway, police cars, traffic signal lights etc. also invented light bulb.
Currently Detroit has increased in a diverse population by 1,000 in a year and many new projects all over the city. Yahoo, google etc have moved in too and more coming.
Watch out The Sleeping Giant woke up. Detroit is back alive. Cleavland is also turning around too. I wish both northern cities well as they return to glory .
Me who lives between the two cities 👀
Same, in Toledo
Found the Toledo resident.
(or maybe Sandusky)
Toledo gang wya?
It'd be really crazy if you lived on a boat.
@@iammrbeat who says I don't
I know this video is a year old but it’s worth mentioning the food scene and beer scene on the westside of Cleveland are awesome.
Detroit is one of the coolest cities in America. The people of Detroit are some of the most vibrant and wonderful people in the world. There’s a certain spirit about Detroit that makes it so great. Cleveland, not so much
Mr. Beat, when are you going to do your next livestream?
Any ideas on the topic?
Mr. Beat
How about a prediction on the election? Or maybe an overview of all the local races for you?
@@Kurvaux ehh that could be controversial at the point in time we are in now
Cleveland has a much better park system plus some of the best libraries in the country
Cleveland also had the first traffic light in the world
It sure did!
Traffic lights were also invented by a blk man
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Garret Morgan. Light on display at Smithsonian and Cle History Center
Love these city comparison videos!
Suggestion: Charleston SC and Savannah GA compared
That's actually really nice to hear that these two cities are making a comeback. Especially considering they are a lot more affordable than my area. But most places are a lot more affordable than where I'm from since I'm from Santa Rosa which is the largest city in wine country up in NorCal just an hour North of San Francisco.
It's a great place to live up here in Santa Rosa, and it is large enough to have its own entertainment scene although not much of one, I have seen Lewis Black perform at the Luther Burbank center up here in Santa rosa, but most of the big events you have to go down to San Francisco to which fortunately is only an hour away. San Jose is also only 2 hours away from here and I think San Jose is a beautiful city. Sacramento is a little less than 2 hours away from here and I've been to a few conventions there as well. This reminds me we actually have toycon here in Santa Rosa although of course not this year with the pandemic . I wish I had gone to it so I'd go to a convention that's in my hometown but I just never gone. there was one year that LeVar Burton came to toycon here in Santa Rosa and I didn't go which I feel stupid for not going when it's right in my hometown.
That said some people I know including friends and family have left Santa Rosa because it's just getting too expensive here. One of my best friends moved all the way to Florida. My family that had been from here for so long all moved up to Idaho where it's way more affordable. I still have friends here in Santa Rosa and my wife and I and her family still live here, but it's just getting so expensive and now that there seems to be annual fires every year near or in this area since 2017 it's getting worse. They have the audacity to keep increasing the cost of living here despite people losing their homes and businesses due to the fires.
And one thing that really stands out about my hometown of Santa Rosa is that Charles Schulz actually resided here while making the Charlie Brown cartoons. We celebrate Charlie Brown all over Sonoma County. We got Charlie Brown statues all over the various towns in Sonoma county especially the largest City being Santa Rosa. We also got Snoopy statues all over and we also have Woodstock statues. We even have Lucy statues. I still remember when they were first unveiling these statues. It's been a long time since they started making these but I actually think at some point they should unveil a bunch of Linus statues as he's a pretty iconic character from the cartoon as well.
what's really cool about these statues though is that they all look different. It's because each of these statues were worked on by different corporations and groups. Even one of the Charlie Brown statues actually is wearing a San Francisco Giants Jersey because the San Francisco Giants actually paid to make one. Although I am an Oakland A's fan I wish the A's would have made one too.
Honestly I feel like in order to have any success in life I have to leave Santa Rosa. That is unless I somehow got lucky and found something great here. But the fact remains it just keeps getting more and more expensive here and it doesn't look like that's ever going to stop. It is a very desirable place to live but it's not fair that locals like myself who have been born and raised here are getting priced out. Especially when there's a lot of people from the most expensive city in the country San Francisco actually moving up here and increasing the cost of living as well. I love my hometown and it has such great charm, but like what so my friends have done and all my family that was from here has done I'm probably going to have to move out because it's getting too damn expensive.
Both have a lot of vacant buildings
Why tho
Yep, no one wants to invest in them because it's such a potential money loss.
Watching this in Detroit. Feels so weird hearing you name off all the shit around me.
Ha I felt the same way making the Kansas Nebraska video
Detroit city literally did a 360. Detroit is known for many things such as the eastern market, Greek town and bells island which the video never mentioned. I should add Detroit zoo, Detroit Shinola, art museum and their professional sports.
Also never mentioned is the current skyscraper Detroit is building which will be the tallest out of all the buildings in Detroit and in Michigan.
Last but not least Detroit was the Silicon Valley of America back in its heyday and it appears to be heading back to gain that title again thanks to Fords new building for ai and autonomous cars being built in downtown. To add Detroit was also known for building airplanes, X-ray machines, and famous music performers. The city was so ahead of the times they had the first home phones in USA, phone books (as a city) and first paved highway, police cars, traffic signal lights etc. also invented light bulb.
Currently Detroit has increased in a diverse population by 1,000 in a year and many new projects all over the city. Yahoo, google etc have moved in too and more coming.
Watch out The Sleeping Giant woke up. Detroit is back alive. Cleavland is also turning around too. I wish both northern cities well as they return to glory . Bbb
Cleveland is kinda the most hipster place ever.
Awesome video!!! Living in the great state of Kansas for past 25+ years. Grew up about 45 minutes east of Cleveland along the shores of beautiful Lake Erie during 1960s-1970s. Can remember the Cuyahoga River bursting into flames late 1960s and was one of the major reasons for the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency). When all that industry left Cleveland....sad. Downtown Cleveland was so pathetic back then, you literally took your own life into your hands if out and about during hours of darkness - no matter what part of town you were in. Also remember that, during winter time, the Lake would freeze up and you could walk at least 1/4 mile or so out onto the ice. Once you started hearing the ice crack loudly, it was time to head for shore. Used to go to the local park along the shore line and spend hours watching the ore freighters sailing by and/or watching the massive waves from storms crashing along the shore line. Oh yeah, during 1990s cannot forget about the HYPERDERMIC NEEDLES from local hospitals that were taken out a few miles and dumped into Lake Erie, then they would wash up onto the beaches during storms. Had to watch where you sat or walked on a beach back then. Back then, did not pay attention or realize about all the pollution being spilled into Lake Erie from the all those cities along the shores, but we were playing in the Lake as kids - probably why I am all "odd" like today. Anyway, THANKS!!! for the memories. Oh yeah - at least Detroit & Cleveland ain't Toledo!!!!!!! Love ya Toledo!!!
Nicely done! Ultimately, I'd like to see both cities thrive, but as someone who's visited Detroit and has been Cleveland-adjacent my entire life, I have to give the nod to Cleveland. You mentioned Detroit has the better music scene, but Cleveland's orchestra is not only consistently rated one of the best in the world, its winter home--Severance Hall--garnered international acclaim after semi-recent renovations for both its architecture and superior acoustics. Additionally, the Cleveland Art Museum not only is home to some of the most recognizable works of art in the world, it's also completely free--no admission fee, though donations are always welcome. And Cleveland's theater scene is actually the second biggest in the country, after only Broadway in NYC...or so the nice tour guide aboard Lolly the Trolley told us during Cleveland's Sparx City Hop which is held most years and takes visitors around the different neighborhoods to experience Cleveland's arts scene. Like the art museum, the city hop is also free. Not only is the cost of living low in Cleveland, you can stretch your dollar even further by taking advantage of some pretty awesome free, or reasonably cheap, events.
I'm a lifelong Detroiter, and that song at beginning is hilarious. I laughed until I was almost crying 🤣🤣🤣. I knew both cities had alot of similarities because we're both rust belt cities with alot of the same social problems. Ironically, most of us in Detroit have relatives in Cleveland and vice-versa. Thank God both cities are slowly getting better because it sure couldn't get any worse lol. Great informative video, thank you for sharing 😊👍
I'm from Detroit and have to say both cities Rock.
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Cleveland has heavy and light rail. You can take a train from the airport to downtown, with streetcars still running in the, um, streetcar suburbs.
The Health line (Bus-rapidtransit BRT) is a streetcar. And proven successful for a lot less money
there’s the rapid light rail that goes from the suburbs to downtown
Thank you for pronouncing Cuyahoga correctly! Most people just look at it funny and avoid trying
Thanks for this episode 💯