It’s not just East Cleveland, it’s Cleveland period. I go for periodic visits back home and it’s sad to see the area in which I’ve grown up gone! All of the houses that I lived in are gone from 125th in St. Clair, Continental Ave and 114th and Buckeye. The streets are horrendous. It’s just sad
Growing up in East Cleveland gave me the tools to be who I am today. Heartbreaking seeing this. I remember when we started noticing this change happening in the 90's. It was still livable then. Now, this is crazy.
It is a crying shame to view this. I immigrated directly to Cleveland from the UK decades ago. Cleveland gave me a major break concerning my engineering career so I am eternally grateful for that. Greetings from Arizona.
I actually new a an older woman (great person who recently passed away) but her family came from UK and settled in Northern Ohio outside of Sandusky. I know this isn’t very relevant to your comment but after reading yours it did spark my memory of her telling me that.
I used to work in East Cleveland, and it's every bit as bad as the video points out. It's also very dangerous. You don't want to be walking down St Clair or Superior at night.
I'm from St Louis and went to Cleveland for a concert around Christmas. Ended up in East Cleveland and it made St Louis hoods look nice. It's so sad to see.
I'm a trucker, and I've seen this all over the US, All Races and it's gonna get worse, more automation is coming and it's gonna take millions of jobs including mine, I hope make the cut by retirement
You know you're bad when Cleveland itself rejects annexing you. Seriously, I drive through East Cleveland 6 days a week from I-90 to Euclid straight down Eddy Rd. I have known this area for 40 years. I can tell you, it's not only the elected leaders that are constantly being locked up, but it's the people themselves the cause of E. Cleveland struggles. Here's the Ironic thing. East Cleveland has a median household income of only $26,000, and the suburb that borders north of East Cleveland, Bratenhal has a median household income of $107,000. The poorest city in Ohio borders one of the riches cities. And yes, Brantenhal Police is on 24hr duty along the borders and will follow you if your car is less pleasing to the eye.
My family immigrated to America back in the late 50's and lived in East Cleveland for about 10 years. It was absolutely beautiful! Then the neighborhood started to change and we moved to the suburbs. Sad very sad.
You mean another HOOD.. All the same every single example. I am done helping clean that shit up. Sorry to say but it is true. Enough federal funding to fix shit so it can be tore up again so it can be invested in AGAIN.
Why didn't you happen to mention all of the nations poorest communities which ALL happen to be predominately white communities. www.thestreet.com/slideshow/12818489/1/poorest-counties-us.html
When I lived there, a friend at Park Tower noticed her car had been stolen one night. She called the police to file a report. The cop told her that she had to go to the station, he was the only cop on duty on a Saturday night (22,000 residents at the time), and he couldn’t leave the station because there were people in the jail. The thing is, even then, around 2005 or so, it was still way better than now. It brings tears to my eyes to see little old people walking to the dollar general or those huge old houses in ruins.
@ If it was republican it would be the same! They don't care about us or our communities never have or will. So why should we vote period! Our voices or votes don't matter. Ok so we vote Republican then what??? Nothing changes... Look yall got a republican in office now. He not helping ppl beneath him he kicking them more hard than their already down. Prime example the "wall" he's only building the wall because he has a disgust with Mexicans. So what is different for the black community! They might wipe us out, If they're doing the Mexicans like that imagine what they will do to blacks🤔 if your an smart black person you wouldn't even vote leave that non sense to them and let them keep destroying the country that they fought the natives for😊
You're not telling people to accept responsibility or are you, cuz you know big brother has all your needs met. Just bow down and surrender and you will never have to think for yourself again.
@@icelyn1 he doesn't have a disgust for Mexicans. He is against illegal immigration, which in the end only makes sure that legitimate u.s. citizens have to fight the invading horde for jobs. Also, we have enough domestic crime in the United States. It's harder to bring Justice to people who are not legitimate citizens that are in the "system". People complain about crappy jobs, but life is about evolution. A series of stepping Stones, increasing one's own value and skill.
Zorro Alphonso for real its some ppl mindset set like that and the ones who have expensive cars that's the cycle there in. Alotta intercity ppl gotta get education and learn about investing in the community I'm in the hood to wanna give back to it I'm in east side Atlanta it's rough out here but there's programs what do the best they can and in Cleveland its crocked politicians that don't keep promises but ppl in the hood who get rich gotta do the best they can to keep the community running
Lived here and moved out in the late 70's as a kid, now I am nearly 50 years old. I was born at Forrest hills hospital and delivered by Dr. Wallace! Moved down south (Tennessee), but came back periodically to visit my family in Cleveland heights between late 70's and early 90's. Although it had started to decline before I moved, but each time I would stop by EC between late 70's and early 90's it got progressively worse. It was truly heartbreaking. A couple of years ago, I took my son, who has never travelled outside of the suburbs in the south to EC, and wanted to show him the old house on Galewood, and we didn't make it off of Euclid, he was gripped with fear. He thought we were in Detroit. He has seen poverty here in the south, and unfortunately homelessness, but seeing whole blocks of homes boarded up, uncut grass, overgrown trees and brush, and the level of trash and the potholes were like nothing he had ever experienced. Sadly, I has such great memories as a kid here, it was truly heartbreaking!
phil minnie I'm 40 years old lived in Oakwood in the 80's and moved away in the late 90's And I can remember my Grandmother and Mother and Aunts talking about going to DR Wallace back in the day.
My son was born in 1973 at Forest City hospital, by Do Wallace. I have no idea where that hospital was. I couldn't find it today if you have me a million dollars.
I was travelling through Ohio, tank was just under a 1/4 pulled off into Cleveland took one glance, and got right back on the highway. I left the hood a long time ago and have no plans to go back anytime soon!
I once rented some cheap rooms out. A friend brought around some poor types he met in the bars to rent the rooms. I was in the habit of cleaning things up, but I got no help from them. The rent was cheap. It didn't include hotel service. The trash got to collecting in the kitchen. I thought I would try a little experiment. Let the trash pile up and see how long it takes before someone gets tired of it and takes it out. When the trash got 4 feet deep, covered most of the floor, and dozens of mice were breeding in it, I ended the experiment. My conclusion was if you don't take out the trash you are the trash. So I took them out, too.
P.S. In case you was wondering, honey they was all white folks. Have a little self respect and take care of yourself. You'll feel better. Even very poor people can keep their quarters and persons clean. Cleanliness is next to Godliness. Thoreau used to clean up the local trails, but he went unpaid for it. Every day I see a trail of trash strewed along my fence. As I walk around, I pick up trash in my path and put it where it belongs. I don't tolerate entropic confusion in my path. A lot of my trade is cleaning and ordering. I collect things that may have and ounce of use left in them. I have a suggestion. Look carefully at the materials around you. What are they made of? Can they be milled for use? Old bricks sell at a premium if you find the right buyer. My guess is those EC houses were visited by scrappers within hours of vacancy. That should not be tolerated, but that's the breaks. When they are through it takes $20gs to bring a house up to code. Considering the state of EC the taxes by now are 3 times normal and revenues are falling. Wake up and smell the coffee. You attract more bees with honey than with vinegar. Here's an assignment for you. Read Aesop's Fables. Ask the Quakers about their proverbs. Read the ones in the Bible. When I hunted for proverbs, I found out some interesting things. Largely they are the same everywhere. Dozens of cultures and languages, and they all say the same things. That is wisdom. EC needs a good dose of proverbs, more than I can list here. Pennies add up to dollars. Good luck and God bless.
@@gabrielsasala1875 Pitsburg is ranked 57 in america, 7 beats 57 🤘. Ive been in Pitsburg and it doesnt compare to Huntsville...more hillbillies there than in Alabama for sure😂😂
Bobby Smith :its about culture. Germany and Japan were bombed to rubble during WW2...their cultures were productive, so they cleaned up, they take action and build, produce...they never gave up. They had discipline. No excuses. They were in a much worse situation than East Cleveland is in. They were starving. These citizens of East Cleveland are obviously not starving.
Still own a house in Maple Heights; but hey it is "WHITIES FAULT" for not staying to pay for all the blacks that were subsidized to move in back in 1996, Bill Clinton and Obama forcing banks to sell to people that couldn't afford the mortgage. Oops my bad "WHITIE" should pay for all repairs for their houses through Federal Tax Dollars too!
@@noseintheairelephant196 I was doing fine out there , it was family back east I had to take care of. I liked the area , even though I didn't have alot of friends or any family out there.
i dont get these people - we have been left on our own, we have to fend for ourselves ?????? people have been fending for themselves for hundreds of years. do these people think someone should ring their doorbell and hand them a bag of cash?? WTF!!!!!
bigpaw64 I left the Detroit area when i was 31 in 1993 because the economy sucked-- I got the f out, nobody was at my front door like you said giving out cash!!! If the people in east cleveland want to stay there and piss and moan, then so be it!!!! Live in the shit hole that is and be miserable....
bigpaw64 I agree with some of what you're saying. But I wonder if the govt. has lowered the property taxes of homeowners there? The local govt. isn't delivering basic services like trash removal, condemning abandoned properties and billing the owners. Its the job of the govt. to maintain infrastructure meaning the roads, bridges, highways etc. clean waters etc. But they keep voting for the same democrats expecting a different result. Its called group insanity. The dysfunction is real. They have no new ideas, the mean aren't independent. Its sad how mentally crippled an entire community has become.
C Truth I can't believe this exist in USA the government should take care of roads and cleaning the streets,but they spend billions on ammo to help Jews fight the wars around the world.
East Cleveland asked to merge into Cleveland, but the East Cleveland council members put in a list of outrageous conditions that would have preserved their own pay and power and made a bad situation even worse. Not surprisingly, Cleveland said "Thanks, but no thanks>"
Y'ALL DON'T UNDERSTAND that when people are trying to SURVIVE ain't no time to be doing all this extra shit. The people who can leave, leave. All the resources they could bring goes with them. Most of the city is abandoned. People can't "come together" And tear down houses. It's govt property. Nobody cares about the city and it's sad.
I wont to save my city Cleveland and my city is crying and in pain somebody help my town Cleveland I dont like wat am seeing we need to unite and stop killing each other my so called black people we r brothers and sisters stop fighting each other
Trying to survive? Seeing how some of them look like humpback whales, they don't have to scrape the scraps together to survive lol. Get their lazy asses off the couch and rebuild and maintain the community. No magic dwarfs are gonna appear to do it for you.
@@spacebug30 You sound STUPID. How many people do you know that paves the roads in their neighborhoods and fix properties that don't belong to them , AND pay taxes? You're a hypocrite.
@@timothysmith4260 I know some people who do roadworks, one of my neighbours maintains another's house while it's up for sale. But oh wait, I live in a white neighbourhood. And, all of them pay taxes because we all have a job.
So when will these people accept responsibility and say just maybe it's our fault. Just maybe we should get a job, take care of our own properties, pay rent on time, stop doing drugs, stop allowing criminals to rule the neighborhood, stop doing what you have been doing for the past 50 years. Obviously it is not working.
I'm hoping annexation of East Cleveland into Cleveland will happen soon so University Circle will come in and clean the area up and make it a historic beutiful neighborhood again. Also to get the better city services it desperatly needs. Its for the better for East Cleveland ive been praying for that to happen soon.
During the bad recession, it was predicted Detroit's gateway would continue through Cleveland straight down to Canton, Ohio. Goodyear ended up keeping their headquarters in Akron & improvements followed. :)
First thought this was a comedy video. LOL. This is what happens in Black communities when people rely on social services to give them a life instead of taking control of their own lives...First thing they need to do is teach their children birth control. Get an education and provide for yourself. Elect city officials that will make a change. Teach their young men to be men and not drug dealers.
Amen to that. I'm tired of seeing so many getting a free ride, complaining about what they don't have instead of making a few sacrifices now in order to gain a better tomorrow. That's true for anyone, no matter where you live or your situation. When you work, do they pay you every hour? every day? every week? No. Most jobs pay every 2 weeks. If you're getting food stamps and welfare, it's monthly. So that's what you have to look at. You won't get anything right now that's worth it. Make a little sacrifice now and get your payday later. Band together and make your neighborhood better! But as long as you accept loud music, loud bikes and don't instill values in your family, you'll have nothing at all. And guess what? That's what you've got now. I don't want to hear your crap.
You guys are so retarded this is what happens when all your fucking greedy corporations move overseas for cheap labor and there's no jobs left for poor people middle-class people stop blaming black people for America's bullshit
I'm growing up in EC I'm 14 and I'm not happy with the way my city looks but I'm proud to be from there because it shows we can make it even in the baddest environment
I feel so sorry for them in east cleveland they look like really good decent people please be careful of who you vote for a lot of bad people in our world today everywhere. If you can move out of there do so, I hope you can
Why do you people keep pointing that out? Does it take a PhD to understand low income households have lower quality meals and eat unhealthy foods? Its unfortunate that to make a fresh salad or fo buy fresh fruit is more expensive than a pack of Ramen or something off McDs Dollar menu. Now if you just want to call people fat do that, but dont sound ignorant in your facetiousness.
anthony soltau It's a plan of gentrification. Watch how Cleveland Clinic and University Hospital will knock it all down and build it back up for their employees and the students and professors at Case western reserve university. This was done on purpose through social engineering.
I work as a maintenance man in section 8 housing. When I turn apartments they are nice enough I'd live there. Six (6) months later it looks like I was never there. The problem is the tenants !
What kills any city is turning homes into rentals because it lowers the property value. Renters don't plan to stay long so they don't keep up on the house and yard maintenance and it becomes an eye sore. So the neighbors move because they want to sell their homes before the property value dips so low that they can't sell it for what they paid. So their home becomes a rental and like dominoes one house after the other falls into the trap and productive people move out and Section 8ers move in. Then local businesses close because the locals cant afford to buy what theyre selling and people don't want to shop there due to the high crime rate. Eventually, the crime rate reaches a point where nobody wants to live there or move in. So you have abandoned buildings and homes that rot because nobody is maintaining them. So what's the result? East Cleveland.
I went to Cleveland about five years ago to visit tomb of President James Garfield, while asking direction from a police officer, I was advised not to drive through East Cleveland. Thanks officer, good advice.
Mariah Zalera ,both. Crime starters hire out children, teens and adults who end up in prison. Drug addicted lose jobs etc and this becomes the continuance of the problems
Mariah Zalera Poverty is one thing. But crime drives people AWAY, no one wants to deal with unsafe people of bad character. This is still a free market system. If people can get the hell out, they will.
Use to live in East Cleveland graduated from Shaw high school in 1979 went to the army came home in 1986 and road the RTA from the airport got Windermere in East Cleveland. And hit my knees and almost cried the population was the walking dead. They dropped them drugs on that city and its gone forever. 😥 sad.
East Cleveland, Ohio, was once an affluent suburb but then the blacks moved in and the whites moved out. it's not racist. it's the facts on the ground. question is: why won't blacks maintain their neighborhoods?
gee knee You have no ideal what you are talking about. You're giving a outside opinion looking in from a distance. Gentrification of black neighborhoods is a process being done all over the country through social engineering the residents have absolutely nothing to do with maintenance of the city's infrastructure or politics. Mind you every mayor that city has had since the 80's have been corrupted along with a corrupted police force. How can you blame blacks for a corrupted police force. That's just asinine.
"As of the census[3] of 2010, there were 17,843 people, 8,286 households, and 4,043 families residing in the city. The population density was 5,774.4 inhabitants per square mile (2,229.5/km2). There were 12,523 housing units at an average density of 4,052.8 per square mile (1,564.8/km2). The racial makeup of the city was 93.2% African American, 4.6% white, 0.2% Native American, 0.2% Asian, 0.2% from other races, and 1.5% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 1.0% of the population." black cities are shit holes.
I live in slavic village on the east side. Have lived here all my life. I can tell you from what i noticed that once the older Polish and Slovakian people started moving out and their homes getting turned into rental properties is when everything started getting worse. Most of the people moving into those places didnt care about keeping the property in good condition because they would stay a few months till they were evicted. Some would even damage the houses or steal pipes and frames to scrap. Crime went up as well about the same time these renters moved in. Had a bike stolen when i was a kid and a car when i was 20. I dont want to blame one race on this because ive seen trash from every race in this area. It needs to blamed on the lack actual good landlords in this area. Dont even check on what tenants doing till the damage is done and they just let these houses fall to pieces. City also slacking on knocking down all the abandoned houses. Pretty sure 25% of my street would be empty lots.
I lived in West Park area for thirty years. Nice, working class neighbor hood. When the housing crash of 2008 hit, many lost their homes, and property values plummeted. Those that had the means left. First, the foreclosed homes were bought by investors. Then, for people trying to sell and move out, the investors were the only ones buying the homes, But, the investors want a quick return on their investment. Add to that the development if the inner ring neighborhoods, and here comes section 8 I left in 2015.
You make good points; that's what you get when City Hall is hostile to landlords and gives them no reason to invest; does nothing to enforce building codes, makes it hard to evict problem tenants; all in the name of helping the poor...
I just took a trip to Cleveland and It is terrible. I may have seen 2 police cars The Whole time I was there. That concerned me for a dangerous neighborhood and I am from the ghetto of NY. I think this city has so much potential of the people pull together and put some sweat equity in.
Not seeing any police is not fault of the size of Cleveland's police force. They have triple the number of officers, of most cities with similar population (385,809 as of 2016).
Crime and destruction is a cultural problem. I have lived in Moundsville and Glen Dale, WV, Baltimore and Cleveland. Even though those small towns in WV are dirt poor, crime is 10-30 times less prevalent in those towns compared E. Cleveland and Baltimore. This video shows the law-abiding people of E. Cleveland fearful of the violent youth of their community. Every violent city has a cultural problem and the government cannot fix it. Crooked people are the problem.
"A portion of Euclid Avenue was once known as Millionaire's Row" -- very misleading. It's true that Euclid Avenue does run through East Cleveland, but the portion called Millionaire's Row was near downtown Cleveland, from about 18th to 90th Ave. East., quite a long ways from East Cleveland.
@@Joe-kb1sm same I was in W. 130th tho. But I went to the east side from time to time bc a lot of family lived there so ik how bad it is over there. Shit is sad bruh
Grew up in East Cleveland went to Superior grade school Kirk Jr. High and was a grad. from Shaw1964. So sad to see what happened to this once wonderful city. Worked on Euclid Ave and Taylor from 1965 until 1971 and then worked in Cleveland Hts. Noble rd. until 1974. Then on to 222nd st. and Lakeshore in Euclid until moving to Nevada in 1976. Wish I had never come across this video. I knew that the city was in bad shape but seeing the places that I once enjoyed as a kid on this video just sickens me.
I remember living in Cleveland for three years while I was in job crops on Euclid and Carnegie and it was a party city back in them days. Downtown was lit but then after the 90s was winding down so Did the importance off the cities and its people. Honestly I believe that if people gave more of a damn about their communities and stop waiting on the government for everything, we can get our communities together. Jobs are needed, create them, clean up your streets, be a crossing guard and watch out for your kids standing on the corners, volunteer at schools, kitchens, help those you see need it in stead of yelling government help , yell community help, neighbors help.js
I thank e.c. could reinvent it's self. I mean a few bars a gay bar, couple liquor stos . A gun shop, some drug dealers, a chop shop, a car wash,a hair salon, a nail salon, a pimp wit some hoes, a resale shop, a check cashing place, a gay bath house, a crack house, and get rid of da Po Po yo. Cause they just cause trouble. A chicken shack, a rib joint and a after hours bar! I no we could do dis! Shit man I can see it all now.
stbx43z and look who's making it fit to live in ,reclaiming it from the ones who moved in and eventually turned it in to a ghetto. Used to be a fancy neighborhood that you'd doll up and wear pearls too. It's nice to see it reclaimed, made nice and restored.
mike johnson You'd be amazed where you can afford to live when you put in the effort to learn skills that qualify a person to do more than just flip burgers.
I grew up in a west side suburb of Cleveland. This situation, African Americans on the near east side of Cleveland, called the "Hough" District has persisted for my entire life of 68 years. This was the epicenter of the riots in the sixties. I moved out west to get away from that city...a city where the river caught on fire. But, having said that, these folks persist in being victims, they will not, or won't not roll up their sleeves and fix their problems. All they have to do is look across the lake at Detroit... I'm not a racist, but how much longer are these people going to be looking for someone else to fix THEIR community. If the police are as corrupt as they say, then the FBI and federal authorities should be vigilant and prosecute rogue cops. But this issue has persisted for a long time....it's so sad.
I lived in Collinwood in the early 80's and for 17 years it was a very nice place to live. They started the busing as the blacks thought they were not getting a decent education. Everyone kept their homes and property up,such a nice place to live . So after the busing here comes the kids from east 148,149,150,crossing over East 152nd to go up Saranac Road to school . The kids just could not walk up the street to the school ,they started branching out into the neighborhoods . First graffiti on the houses,one morning 2 young kids threw a rock through my neighbors front window and ran ,then they started stealing newspapers . Soon stolen cars were brought in and one burned in the lot behind my house and one sat a week out in the front with the column peeled and dash ripped apart windows broke out . Before I even realized the whole neighborhood was a ghetto . I packed up my stuff and it all was left in my rear view mirror . That was in the late 90's That place now is nothing but a ghetto. I want to know who was the blame for this ? Who destroyed this nice neighborhood ? Anyone with a brain got the heck outta there . I moved out of Cleveland and you could not pay me to live in that crap hole.
I went to the Cleveland Institute of Art in the late 60's, early 70's and I used to drive from Parma to University Circle. The route took me thru downtown, onto the Shoreway drive and then down Liberty Blvd...now I think it's call MLK Blvd. I prayed I wouldn't break down on Liberty Blvd., because of the neighborhood surrounding it. After I graduated, and the Cuyahoga River caught on fire, the crime in the city and the crap weather of NE Ohio, I took a job for a high tech firm in Boise, Idaho in the early 80's....Best thing I ever did...fly fishing in the river running right thru town, pristine water and air...the Rocky Mountain....I never, never, never looked back. The people living in Hough and East Cleveland have only themselves to blame. During the administration of Carl Stokes, they bought into the liberal lie that the white man had done this to them. As long as these people identify as victims, waiting for someone else to clean up THEIR mess, they will continue to fail....I didn't want to waste my life in the shit hole that Cleveland has become.
Who owns the land? The same people allowing this city to deteriorate to a point where they sell the property by imminent domain and gentrify it later when everyone finally abandoned it. Use history as lesson and not ignorance and racism the number statement of a racist/bigot or someone trying to say a problem is racial rather than addressing the actual issue is I’m not a racist 😒 sure buddy. If you weren’t you wouldn’t have added that statement. Look into the sources of the problem and quit blaming the results. I guess according to you what they did in New York and other areas that have been more recently gentrified was white people saving the day again 🤦♀️ people like you choose to be blind to reality to pad your egos and hide from the mirror
@@whosthat6944 I agree with some of what u said. I only take issue with ur comment that just because someone points out something racial that means they "are" a racist, hence why they pointed it out, according to u. Thats really not true. As Skip Bayless even said (bad reference i know) "Something can be racial without it being racist". This is 100% true. Its only now in this pussified world that anything having to do with race is automatically deemed racist. Why do u think stand up comics dont even make racial jokes anymore? Cause everyone is a pussy and cant take a joke, or even a racial statement without it being deemed as racist.
Same thing is happening in Canton, but everyone wants to turn a blind eye until it’s to late. The land remains the same. It’s people that change. It’s people that destroy themselves and communities.
It's not about the blight, it's about the people that caused the blight. They just set back and expect someone else to do all the work and provide the money. It's your neighborhood, you fix it, start a business of some kind and use the income to fix you home.
I literally just drive through EC last night just for old time's sake. I was sick to see what my old home looks like. Whole streets abandoned, pot holes that look more like craters. The whole city needs to be leveled, for safety sake and start over. Makes me want to cry real tears.
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Us Black People going to have to STOP Voting Democrat, it's the only way to make our Black Communities to do BETTER. That's the bottom of line. Democratic are just bunch of braggin' liars.
Watching this just makes me wanna cry! I feel so bad for them. If I had the money I'd help these individuals to get better resources and get the crooked officials out of office. I'd help the people get better safety, better paying jobs whatever I could do to help!!
It is sad. Not one of those “crooked officials” has an (R) next to their name. Defund the police may have been a bad idea. Again, not one politician with an (R) supported defund the police movement.
A+ Joseph. Job WELL DONE. I wish the spoken parts were a couple of notches above the soundtrack, and in both channels, but I’m Very Glad You made THIS. We moved from a Middle Class TX Neighborhood to CLE Hts. Our kids spent 1 yr attending Monticello MS. Then we transferred to a Charter School Dwn Twn. Had to drive from Mayfield rd up N Taylor, West on Euclid past Shaw HS :( , then North up Superior. We ALL Witnessed your Subject Matter twice a day for 2 years. It’s So Disheartening. I believe the E CLE school district is the poorest in OH, and ?4th poorest in the Nation perhaps? So Incredibly Sad. Thank You for your well made Film.
If i bought your neighbor’s house and just let it rot you could sue me because it hurts your land value... we should FORCE the banks that stole all these properties through foreclosure to maintain the properties. I’ve been to east Cle+ and it is the most dangerous place i have ever been, people that look like bouncers getting robbed! I used to work with a guy so jacked that when he got mugged at w100 & detroit (west cleveland) they stabbed him in the neck and the knife got stuck in the muscle & they couldn’t get the knife back out to stab him again.... think about that WHO ROBS A GUY THAT MASSIVE. He was dirt poor and had nothing fancy... no gold chain to steal just a giant monster fresh out of prison.... the crime is like piranhas just looking for something to bite. On New Years bullets rain from the sky so frequently that getting inside before “they start shooting” is a major concern. Lets face it the banks own 25% of that land and do nothing to maintain it, they need to.
Banks own a good number of homes in my town. Some want people to move in, but people can be trouble... let the houses stay empty. I dont want to replicate the inner city.
Sunset Cliff ya fine let them be empty but the owner of the property has a responsibility to maintain that property weather they are real people or banks
You are correct. If I sell my home then I must correct all code violations or sale the house as is and make the buyer aware of any known defects. The banks sells homes "as is" without having to disclose any known defects. In many cases, the buyer cannot hire a company to inspect the home for defects. You must pay cash for the homes. Therefore, you cannot borrow money for the purchase and repair of the home. If you have money to purchase the home then many of the east side suburbs require that you deposit 150% of the needed repair money. We have foreigners and speculators buying up homes and doing on the cheap repairs. Today on NewsChannel 5, there is a story about how banks and others deny loan opportunities to African Americans. I have refurbished 3 homes in a first rate manner, I have excellent credit, and good savings but I must fight to secure a loan with lenders.
@@turboredcart I lived in East Cleveland and the house next to me was left vacant. One morning I came home and discovered the door to the neighboring house ajar. I took my gun and cleared out the druggies out of the home. I nailed the doors closed with large spikes. It kept the intruders out. The home was rehabbed and sold.
Abandoned, yes...but abandoned by whom? White residents left, and businesses left. To those who say white residents and businesses have to accommodate black priorities: what kind of example is East Cleveland? The residents blame the city, but the real issue isn't crooks...it's a tax base that collapsed. Perceptions of property value have consequences on taxes. You can legislate, but you can't tell people what to think. There are identical examples in similar neighborhoods of St. Louis, Detroit, New York, Philadelphia...one could go on.
I amend my earlier comment to state that after reading more information on corrupt officials in the City of East Cleveland, starting with ex-mayor Gary Norton, and remembering Leach's conviction in 1989 for selling cocaine at WVU, I can now see him getting caught up in a scandal such as this.
I lived in East Cleveland for a brief minute in 1993-1994. It was going downhill then. I worked with Melran Leach at a Cleveland hotel in 1994 and find it hard to believe he would get himself caught up in something such as this. It's a sin and a shame.
In order to solve a problem, you must first identify the root cause of said problem. And that's just what this video didn't do. It didn't delve into how this community became like this. Why did the businesses leave or close? Once you know why, then you can take steps to correct the problem. But just interviewing residents and hearing their complaints isn't going to solve anything.
All the gang violence drug dealing and armed robberies are why east Cleveland is trash. Young people don't want to find a job and believe me there is jobs. They would rather sell drugs and rob than work
I hate reading comments in videos. People are so heartless and disgraceful. So worried about if the people in the videos are missing meals instead of the bigger picture. They are living around a city that is ran down, living in amongst conditions that weren’t always there. What they eat don’t have Shit to do with the Police not responding to calls or to city officials not handling their business with all the damn abandon buildings. I live in Cleveland and I avoid E.C.
yeah no kidding. i mean to an extent, i am of the mindset that these people should try to do more for themselves but at the same time im disgusted at the comments made here. driving through rural west virginia is worse than this and its all white people. they live on the side of mountains in stacked shipping containers with no discernible property and with everything overgrown
What happened to the city I grew up in? I left in 1978 with my parents at eleven or twelve from Kingsford Avenue a few streets north of upper Miles Rd. In E. Cleveland. I have fond memories of Cleveland, but to see what it's become is beyond sad. But Cleveland will always be my home.
it doesn't take blacks to fuck up anything look at all african nations they can't even feed themselves african nations have highest infant mortality rates in the world yet blacks in this country are never happy thunk goodness i nolonger live with blacks i use to hate being in bed at night hearing gun battles right outside my bedroom window what if all races in this country acted like this
It's starting here in Cincinnati Ohio . I truly hope Cincinnati Learns from Cleveland Ohio's mistakes. May God Bless All of Ohio and America::) The World 🌎 May there be Peace. Merry Christmas 2018
It’s not just East Cleveland, it’s Cleveland period. I go for periodic visits back home and it’s sad to see the area in which I’ve grown up gone! All of the houses that I lived in are gone from 125th in St. Clair, Continental Ave and 114th and Buckeye. The streets are horrendous. It’s just sad
Yeah you're right. Perfect example is the CCF complex. Once you walk off campus and cross the street it's utter filth.
That’s what happens when get a city ran by Democrats. It’s always fucked up and ran wrong.
Yes...I used to live on 96 and St.Clair back in the day.
Where you move to? I live right by continental & I honestly don’t know anyone that wants to stay here
The best thing they can do is hire about 20 or 30 D11 turbo bulldozers, Excavators, dump trucks and demolish from 4 directions.
Growing up in East Cleveland gave me the tools to be who I am today. Heartbreaking seeing this. I remember when we started noticing this change happening in the 90's. It was still livable then. Now, this is crazy.
I live there now, but I've got it better than most honestly
@49jubilee yep...1990 and onward,especially once NAFTA was signed
Did you the tools back or do you still need them
AZTECA REALM it is a desperate situation.
This true
Crocked politicians was and still is east Cleveland's biggest problem
You forgot to tell these complaining people voted these politicians in.
That’s America’s problem in general
"The racial makeup of the city was 93.39% African American"...oh yeah, THATS the problem
@@dragonmartijn True unless some of them didn’t vote at all and if only one candidate ran for some of those positions
Let's get specific, DEMOCRATS. This city needs to be hallowed out from the top down. Its a shame and I feel bad for the people.
It is a crying shame to view this. I immigrated directly to Cleveland from the UK decades ago. Cleveland gave me a major break concerning my engineering
career so I am eternally grateful for that. Greetings from Arizona.
I actually new a an older woman (great person who recently passed away) but her family came from UK and settled in Northern Ohio outside of Sandusky. I know this isn’t very relevant to your comment but after reading yours it did spark my memory of her telling me that.
Arizona is a good place to be. Don't even think of looking back!
I used to work in East Cleveland, and it's every bit as bad as the video points out. It's also very dangerous. You don't want to be walking down St Clair or Superior at night.
Kinsman too
How about east 99
They let off in the summer time. Like for no reason on st clair
Cuz you pussy
@@losgryfog 🤣
I'm happy to see that no one is going hungry in East Cleveland.
I'm from St Louis and went to Cleveland for a concert around Christmas. Ended up in East Cleveland and it made St Louis hoods look nice. It's so sad to see.
How does E. Cleveland compare to your suburb across the river, E. St. Louis, IL? I hear that's rough, too.
@@mikeshumaker E St louis is worse
I'm from Chicago and trust me, even Gary, Indiana Hoods looks little nicer than this too
@@CKACKAJACKA No East Cleveland is way worse
When the factories left town is where it all started
FINALLY!
Someone with the balls to speak the truth!!!
Corrupt politicians destroy everything too!!!
that's all!
I'm a trucker, and I've seen this all over the US, All Races and it's gonna get worse, more automation is coming and it's gonna take millions of jobs including mine, I hope make the cut by retirement
when new technologies take over, new opportunities are created. surf the wave driver
This just made me straight up depressed and grateful for what I have
You know you're bad when Cleveland itself rejects annexing you.
Seriously, I drive through East Cleveland 6 days a week from I-90 to Euclid straight down Eddy Rd. I have known this area for 40 years. I can tell you, it's not only the elected leaders that are constantly being locked up, but it's the people themselves the cause of E. Cleveland struggles.
Here's the Ironic thing. East Cleveland has a median household income of only $26,000, and the suburb that borders north of East Cleveland, Bratenhal has a median household income of $107,000. The poorest city in Ohio borders one of the riches cities. And yes, Brantenhal Police is on 24hr duty along the borders and will follow you if your car is less pleasing to the eye.
Cleveland is heading in a different direction
My family immigrated to America back in the late 50's and lived in East Cleveland for about 10 years. It was absolutely beautiful! Then the neighborhood started to change and we moved to the suburbs. Sad very sad.
Another Detroit, Baltimore, Buffalo, Flint, Youngstown, Newark, St Louis, Memphis,New Orleans.
I grew up in Cleveland and now live in N.Orleans sorry but I disagree not all of N.Orleans is like East Cleveland.
New Orleans is gentrified
You mean another HOOD.. All the same every single example. I am done helping clean that shit up. Sorry to say but it is true. Enough federal funding to fix shit so it can be tore up again so it can be invested in AGAIN.
Why didn't you happen to mention all of the nations poorest communities which ALL happen to be predominately white communities. www.thestreet.com/slideshow/12818489/1/poorest-counties-us.html
Amen
When I lived there, a friend at Park Tower noticed her car had been stolen one night. She called the police to file a report. The cop told her that she had to go to the station, he was the only cop on duty on a Saturday night (22,000 residents at the time), and he couldn’t leave the station because there were people in the jail. The thing is, even then, around 2005 or so, it was still way better than now. It brings tears to my eyes to see little old people walking to the dollar general or those huge old houses in ruins.
@3:21. Guns aren’t the problem, it’s the mental state of people that’s the problem
Yup! Guns don't pull their own triggers.
Ya also gotta remember that area has been under the administration of the Democrap Party for many decades.
@ If it was republican it would be the same! They don't care about us or our communities never have or will. So why should we vote period! Our voices or votes don't matter. Ok so we vote Republican then what??? Nothing changes... Look yall got a republican in office now. He not helping ppl beneath him he kicking them more hard than their already down. Prime example the "wall" he's only building the wall because he has a disgust with Mexicans. So what is different for the black community! They might wipe us out, If they're doing the Mexicans like that imagine what they will do to blacks🤔 if your an smart black person you wouldn't even vote leave that non sense to them and let them keep destroying the country that they fought the natives for😊
You're not telling people to accept responsibility or are you, cuz you know big brother has all your needs met. Just bow down and surrender and you will never have to think for yourself again.
@@icelyn1 he doesn't have a disgust for Mexicans. He is against illegal immigration, which in the end only makes sure that legitimate u.s. citizens have to fight the invading horde for jobs. Also, we have enough domestic crime in the United States. It's harder to bring Justice to people who are not legitimate citizens that are in the "system". People complain about crappy jobs, but life is about evolution. A series of stepping Stones, increasing one's own value and skill.
Liquor Stores and Check Cashing Joints more prominent in the hood.
Rallys, Churches Chicken, Auto Zone, must be the REAL problem.
Those people own cars worth much more than the houses they live in!
Zorro Alphonso for real its some ppl mindset set like that and the ones who have expensive cars that's the cycle there in. Alotta intercity ppl gotta get education and learn about investing in the community I'm in the hood to wanna give back to it I'm in east side Atlanta it's rough out here but there's programs what do the best they can and in Cleveland its crocked politicians that don't keep promises but ppl in the hood who get rich gotta do the best they can to keep the community running
Lived here and moved out in the late 70's as a kid, now I am nearly 50 years old. I was born at Forrest hills hospital and delivered by Dr. Wallace!
Moved down south (Tennessee), but came back periodically to visit my family in Cleveland heights between late 70's and early 90's. Although it had started to decline before I moved, but each time I would stop by EC between late 70's and early 90's it got progressively worse. It was truly heartbreaking. A couple of years ago, I took my son, who has never travelled outside of the suburbs in the south to EC, and wanted to show him the old house on Galewood, and we didn't make it off of Euclid, he was gripped with fear. He thought we were in Detroit. He has seen poverty here in the south, and unfortunately homelessness, but seeing whole blocks of homes boarded up, uncut grass, overgrown trees and brush, and the level of trash and the potholes were like nothing he had ever experienced.
Sadly, I has such great memories as a kid here, it was truly heartbreaking!
phil minnie I'm 40 years old lived in Oakwood in the 80's and moved away in the late 90's And I can remember my Grandmother and Mother and Aunts talking about going to DR Wallace back in the day.
I lived in Glenville over 40 years, and it scary to me when I went back. And I have no plans on returning.
Dr. Wallace was my first Gyn
My son was born in 1973 at Forest City hospital, by Do Wallace. I have no idea where that hospital was. I couldn't find it today if you have me a million dollars.
i live there 25 years ago an i refuse to drive there now. Living there is a mindset that I refuse to adopt
Yea... I moved out 30 years ago...I been living in another city but my family still lives there
Wow...this was fantastic. Thanks for putting this together and educating us.
I'm just sick about this. I grew up in East Cleveland until the early 60s and it wasn't like this.
Rosemarie Kury your former home didn t appear in this documentary?
Why did you leave?
Hmm, and what changed about East Cleveland from what it was in the 50s and 60s to have caused this change for the worse? Hmm... I wonder...
When did it started to get like this, like after Mid 90s?
@@pablotupone4190 no. We lived near East 131st Street.
I was travelling through Ohio, tank was just under a 1/4 pulled off into Cleveland took one glance, and got right back on the highway. I left the hood a long time ago and have no plans to go back anytime soon!
I once rented some cheap rooms out. A friend brought around some poor types he met in the bars to rent the rooms. I was in the habit of cleaning things up, but I got no help from them. The rent was cheap. It didn't include hotel service. The trash got to collecting in the kitchen. I thought I would try a little experiment. Let the trash pile up and see how long it takes before someone gets tired of it and takes it out. When the trash got 4 feet deep, covered most of the floor, and dozens of mice were breeding in it, I ended the experiment. My conclusion was if you don't take out the trash you are the trash. So I took them out, too.
P.S. In case you was wondering, honey they was all white folks. Have a little self respect and take care of yourself. You'll feel better. Even very poor people can keep their quarters and persons clean. Cleanliness is next to Godliness. Thoreau used to clean up the local trails, but he went unpaid for it. Every day I see a trail of trash strewed along my fence. As I walk around, I pick up trash in my path and put it where it belongs. I don't tolerate entropic confusion in my path. A lot of my trade is cleaning and ordering. I collect things that may have and ounce of use left in them. I have a suggestion. Look carefully at the materials around you. What are they made of? Can they be milled for use? Old bricks sell at a premium if you find the right buyer. My guess is those EC houses were visited by scrappers within hours of vacancy. That should not be tolerated, but that's the breaks. When they are through it takes $20gs to bring a house up to code. Considering the state of EC the taxes by now are 3 times normal and revenues are falling. Wake up and smell the coffee. You attract more bees with honey than with vinegar. Here's an assignment for you. Read Aesop's Fables. Ask the Quakers about their proverbs. Read the ones in the Bible. When I hunted for proverbs, I found out some interesting things. Largely they are the same everywhere. Dozens of cultures and languages, and they all say the same things. That is wisdom. EC needs a good dose of proverbs, more than I can list here. Pennies add up to dollars. Good luck and God bless.
John Hardin good straight forward advice . You can’t change all the world but you can tend your own garden.
John Hardin damn
I lived in Cleveland for a while, I lived on East 55th I got shot two times I'm living in Alabama now best thing that ever happened to me.
No one in the history of ever said that they enjoy living in Alabama
@@gabrielsasala1875 Exactly what I was thinking
I grew up on west 44th, now living in Huntsville Alabama. This city is ranked 7th best place to live in america, look it up
@@andreypopazoglo9965 you could have moved to Pittsburgh, the best place to live. And get a job that pays a lot more, and not be around hillbillies
@@gabrielsasala1875 Pitsburg is ranked 57 in america, 7 beats 57 🤘. Ive been in Pitsburg and it doesnt compare to Huntsville...more hillbillies there than in Alabama for sure😂😂
Everybody asking and waiting instead of doing
Please Go I have the solution
Bobby Smith are they government employees? Who has the power to fix the city? Yeah...no answer needed.
The government is supposed to do something when the cities falling apart
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO DO! DID YOU NOT WITH THE VIDEO?????
Bobby Smith :its about culture. Germany and Japan were bombed to rubble during WW2...their cultures were productive, so they cleaned up, they take action and build, produce...they never gave up. They had discipline. No excuses. They were in a much worse situation than East Cleveland is in. They were starving. These citizens of East Cleveland are obviously not starving.
Governor John Kasich has never even looked at East Cleveland. I have never heard him acknowledge the problems there.
No but his gun hatin ass wants to be president fuck him
@@bandccoresohio Yea fuck Kasich
He’s one of the worst Dewine is a shitbag too
Kasich still doesn’t care about EC. He’s loving life in his cushy governors mansion 🤬 all these years later, he still hasn’t done a damn thing.
DeWine don’t care either. Scumbag ass politicians.
sad and heartbreaking. it is sad to see my people go through this.
I was listening to the news, and they were saying the police don't even bother too show up on shooting calls if no one was hit.
Paula Johnson NYPD stay on their shit
These same people complaining are the same ones that keep voting Democrat, I grew up in Cleveland during the 1950's to the 1980's
Voting democrat is killing our cities
Lucked out and sold my house over in maple heights, was grateful it was enough profit for a cup of coffee.
Still own a house in Maple Heights; but hey it is "WHITIES FAULT" for not staying to pay for all the blacks that were subsidized to move in back in 1996, Bill Clinton and Obama forcing banks to sell to people that couldn't afford the mortgage. Oops my bad "WHITIE" should pay for all repairs for their houses through Federal Tax Dollars too!
MrHillfolk a cup of coffee!? Smh.
@@noseintheairelephant196
I was doing fine out there , it was family back east I had to take care of.
I liked the area , even though I didn't have alot of friends or any family out there.
@@8888beemer
Pretty much , when ya bought it in the mid 90s range and sold it 20yrs later for mid 60s range.
It's Not just East Cleveland. Our Politicians sold us out in Ohio a long time ago! Look at Youngstown where I grew up. It's just as bad.
i dont get these people - we have been left on our own, we have to fend for ourselves ?????? people have been fending for themselves for hundreds of years. do these people think someone should ring their doorbell and hand them a bag of cash?? WTF!!!!!
bigpaw64 I left the Detroit area when i was 31 in 1993 because the economy sucked-- I got the f out, nobody was at my front door like you said giving out cash!!! If the people in east cleveland want to stay there and piss and moan, then so be it!!!! Live in the shit hole that is and be miserable....
All the business left because of the crime & they wonder why there are no jobs some blacks are there own worst enemy.
bigpaw64 My hard working neighbors owe me a living! Basement Lives Matter
bigpaw64 I agree with some of what you're saying. But I wonder if the govt. has lowered the property taxes of homeowners there? The local govt. isn't delivering basic services like trash removal, condemning abandoned properties and billing the owners. Its the job of the govt. to maintain infrastructure meaning the roads, bridges, highways etc. clean waters etc. But they keep voting for the same democrats expecting a different result. Its called group insanity. The dysfunction is real. They have no new ideas, the mean aren't independent. Its sad how mentally crippled an entire community has become.
C Truth I can't believe this exist in USA the government should take care of roads and cleaning the streets,but they spend billions on ammo to help Jews fight the wars around the world.
This is what happens when we off shored our industry. We sure have had great political and business leaders over the last 50 years.
spot on. greasy palms are the enemy
+Paula Johnson
Well expressed and balanced view...nobody is bashing the whites who suffered the very same disaster...corporate greed strikes again.
Right on, also the people who cry about offshoring are driving offshore cars, buying mostly offshore products to save 50 cents.
Has anyone ever counted the industries that left northern cities for South, mexico, and overseas? There's your money to fix things up again.
East Cleveland asked to merge into Cleveland, but the East Cleveland council members put in a list of outrageous conditions that would have preserved their own pay and power and made a bad situation even worse. Not surprisingly, Cleveland said "Thanks, but no thanks>"
Y'ALL DON'T UNDERSTAND that when people are trying to SURVIVE ain't no time to be doing all this extra shit. The people who can leave, leave. All the resources they could bring goes with them. Most of the city is abandoned. People can't "come together" And tear down houses. It's govt property. Nobody cares about the city and it's sad.
Take away the red tape and we can do the rest. I'm from Cleveland and if my people are ready to try it, let me know.
I wont to save my city Cleveland and my city is crying and in pain somebody help my town Cleveland I dont like wat am seeing we need to unite and stop killing each other my so called black people we r brothers and sisters stop fighting each other
Trying to survive? Seeing how some of them look like humpback whales, they don't have to scrape the scraps together to survive lol. Get their lazy asses off the couch and rebuild and maintain the community. No magic dwarfs are gonna appear to do it for you.
@@spacebug30 You sound STUPID. How many people do you know that paves the roads in their neighborhoods and fix properties that don't belong to them , AND pay taxes? You're a hypocrite.
@@timothysmith4260 I know some people who do roadworks, one of my neighbours maintains another's house while it's up for sale. But oh wait, I live in a white neighbourhood. And, all of them pay taxes because we all have a job.
So when will these people accept responsibility and say just maybe it's our fault. Just maybe we should get a job, take care of our own properties, pay rent on time, stop doing drugs, stop allowing criminals to rule the neighborhood, stop doing what you have been doing for the past 50 years. Obviously it is not working.
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I'm hoping annexation of East Cleveland into Cleveland will happen soon so University Circle will come in and clean the area up and make it a historic beutiful neighborhood again. Also to get the better city services it desperatly needs. Its for the better for East Cleveland ive been praying for that to happen soon.
The lady said it folks, if u keep electing the same;
Then u will be stuck with the same
Yes ma'am
Wow... Eastern Cleveland is the Detroit of Ohio.
During the bad recession, it was predicted Detroit's gateway would continue through Cleveland straight down to Canton, Ohio. Goodyear ended up keeping their headquarters in Akron & improvements followed. :)
First thought this was a comedy video. LOL.
This is what happens in Black communities when people rely on social services to give them a life instead of taking control of their own lives...First thing they need to do is teach their children birth control. Get an education and provide for yourself.
Elect city officials that will make a change. Teach their young men to be men and not drug dealers.
"They, They, They" They who? lol
JanaINJax2
You know...
Amen to that. I'm tired of seeing so many getting a free ride, complaining about what they don't have instead of making a few sacrifices now in order to gain a better tomorrow. That's true for anyone, no matter where you live or your situation. When you work, do they pay you every hour? every day? every week? No. Most jobs pay every 2 weeks. If you're getting food stamps and welfare, it's monthly. So that's what you have to look at. You won't get anything right now that's worth it. Make a little sacrifice now and get your payday later. Band together and make your neighborhood better! But as long as you accept loud music, loud bikes and don't instill values in your family, you'll have nothing at all. And guess what? That's what you've got now. I don't want to hear your crap.
Umm...do you have an education?
You guys are so retarded this is what happens when all your fucking greedy corporations move overseas for cheap labor and there's no jobs left for poor people middle-class people stop blaming black people for America's bullshit
I'm growing up in EC I'm 14 and I'm not happy with the way my city looks but I'm proud to be from there because it shows we can make it even in the baddest environment
Please stay in school.... nothing beats poverty but education. Please remember that education also includes Skill- training. Best wishes to you.
Ive always called E.C "New Jack City"
I feel so sorry for them in east cleveland they look like really good decent people please be careful of who you vote for a lot of bad people in our world today everywhere. If you can move out of there do so, I hope you can
East Cleveland is bankrupt, nobody there to pay taxes...............
Nobody missing any meals in this video.
Why do you people keep pointing that out? Does it take a PhD to understand low income households have lower quality meals and eat unhealthy foods? Its unfortunate that to make a fresh salad or fo buy fresh fruit is more expensive than a pack of Ramen or something off McDs Dollar menu. Now if you just want to call people fat do that, but dont sound ignorant in your facetiousness.
it's sad to see where I grew up looking like a wasted land their no love for east Cleveland
anthony soltau It's a plan of gentrification. Watch how Cleveland Clinic and University Hospital will knock it all down and build it back up for their employees and the students and professors at Case western reserve university. This was done on purpose through social engineering.
Whaa, Whaa, Whaaaaa
GERALD WOODARD III I believe every word. I am watching Smucker's do it in the town that I reside.
I work as a maintenance man in section 8 housing. When I turn apartments they are nice enough I'd live there. Six (6) months later it looks like I was never there. The problem is the tenants !
What kills any city is turning homes into rentals because it lowers the property value. Renters don't plan to stay long so they don't keep up on the house and yard maintenance and it becomes an eye sore. So the neighbors move because they want to sell their homes before the property value dips so low that they can't sell it for what they paid. So their home becomes a rental and like dominoes one house after the other falls into the trap and productive people move out and Section 8ers move in. Then local businesses close because the locals cant afford to buy what theyre selling and people don't want to shop there due to the high crime rate. Eventually, the crime rate reaches a point where nobody wants to live there or move in. So you have abandoned buildings and homes that rot because nobody is maintaining them. So what's the result? East Cleveland.
I went to Cleveland about five years ago to visit tomb of President James Garfield, while asking direction from a police officer, I was advised not to drive through East Cleveland. Thanks officer, good advice.
Crime creates poverty because it chases the above ground economy out. Next question?
Does crime create poverty or does poverty create crime ?
poverty creates crime, that's a given
Mariah Zalera ,both. Crime starters hire out children, teens and adults who end up in prison. Drug addicted lose jobs etc and this becomes the continuance of the problems
Mariah Zalera Poverty is one thing. But crime drives people AWAY, no one wants to deal with unsafe people of bad character. This is still a free market system. If people can get the hell out, they will.
It a not give a fuck attitude
Little thugs that don't care about anything is what destroyed that City
Send the immigrants to East Cleveland!
Fact
Use to live in East Cleveland graduated from Shaw high school in 1979 went to the army came home in 1986 and road the RTA from the airport got Windermere in East Cleveland. And hit my knees and almost cried the population was the walking dead. They dropped them drugs on that city and its gone forever. 😥 sad.
East Cleveland, Ohio, was once an affluent suburb but then the blacks moved in and the whites moved out. it's not racist. it's the facts on the ground. question is: why won't blacks maintain their neighborhoods?
gee knee It is racist. Look up social engineering and find out what it means.
when the exact same problem exists everywhere black people are without exception then ya, it's a race issue.
a race issue, not racist.
gee knee You have no ideal what you are talking about. You're giving a outside opinion looking in from a distance. Gentrification of black neighborhoods is a process being done all over the country through social engineering the residents have absolutely nothing to do with maintenance of the city's infrastructure or politics. Mind you every mayor that city has had since the 80's have been corrupted along with a corrupted police force. How can you blame blacks for a corrupted police force. That's just asinine.
"As of the census[3] of 2010, there were 17,843 people, 8,286 households, and 4,043 families residing in the city. The population density was 5,774.4 inhabitants per square mile (2,229.5/km2). There were 12,523 housing units at an average density of 4,052.8 per square mile (1,564.8/km2). The racial makeup of the city was 93.2% African American, 4.6% white, 0.2% Native American, 0.2% Asian, 0.2% from other races, and 1.5% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 1.0% of the population." black cities are shit holes.
I live in slavic village on the east side. Have lived here all my life. I can tell you from what i noticed that once the older Polish and Slovakian people started moving out and their homes getting turned into rental properties is when everything started getting worse. Most of the people moving into those places didnt care about keeping the property in good condition because they would stay a few months till they were evicted. Some would even damage the houses or steal pipes and frames to scrap. Crime went up as well about the same time these renters moved in. Had a bike stolen when i was a kid and a car when i was 20. I dont want to blame one race on this because ive seen trash from every race in this area. It needs to blamed on the lack actual good landlords in this area. Dont even check on what tenants doing till the damage is done and they just let these houses fall to pieces. City also slacking on knocking down all the abandoned houses. Pretty sure 25% of my street would be empty lots.
I lived in West Park area for thirty years. Nice, working class neighbor hood.
When the housing crash of 2008 hit, many lost their homes, and property values plummeted. Those that had the means left.
First, the foreclosed homes were bought by investors. Then, for people trying to sell and move out, the investors were the only ones buying the homes,
But, the investors want a quick return on their investment.
Add to that the development if the inner ring neighborhoods, and here comes section 8
I left in 2015.
You make good points; that's what you get when City Hall is hostile to landlords and gives them no reason to invest; does nothing to enforce building codes, makes it hard to evict problem tenants; all in the name of helping the poor...
When I was a kid, I lived in E.Cleveland. 12712 Euclid Ave. It was a big beautiful home.This was back in the late 1950's. It is no longer there.
My grandma lives in East Cleveland and so does my aunt and they have perfect lives
A perfect life in East Cleveland? How? There is no solace, no peace, no beauty...can that possibly equate to perfection?
I just took a trip to Cleveland and It is terrible. I may have seen 2 police cars The Whole time I was there. That concerned me for a dangerous neighborhood and I am from the ghetto of NY. I think this city has so much potential of the people pull together and put some sweat equity in.
Mike J Womack I completely agree with you but it won't happen the people are 2 closed minded
And I live here
East Cleveland is an inner ring suburb of Cleveland. There are plenty of nice areas in Cleveland. East Cleveland is in terrible shape however.
Not seeing any police is not fault of the size of Cleveland's police force. They have triple the number of officers, of most cities with similar population (385,809 as of 2016).
Go to the suburbs ...... Police are everywhere
Gentrification ready! ...the new real estate tagline.
Absolutely.
Nothing from nothing leaves nothing- wow -he is absolutely correct! ☹️
Crime and destruction is a cultural problem. I have lived in Moundsville and Glen Dale, WV, Baltimore and Cleveland. Even though those small towns in WV are dirt poor, crime is 10-30 times less prevalent in those towns compared E. Cleveland and Baltimore. This video shows the law-abiding people of E. Cleveland fearful of the violent youth of their community. Every violent city has a cultural problem and the government cannot fix it. Crooked people are the problem.
Man in car says he was moving down South........like the South is just waiting with open arms.... you're looking at a whole new set of problems
actually a caravan from Honduras is on their way- they could live in east cleveland
"A portion of Euclid Avenue was once known as Millionaire's Row" -- very misleading. It's true that Euclid Avenue does run through East Cleveland, but the portion called Millionaire's Row was near downtown Cleveland, from about 18th to 90th Ave. East., quite a long ways from East Cleveland.
The potholes have potholes….. sad to see this, grew up not far away from East Cleveland- in Cleveland Hts. Up Noble Road
Its crazy when you compare the west side of Cleveland to the east it’s completely different..
I live off W119st south of Lorain ave. I never go to any part of the east side, especial e. Cleveland.
@@Joe-kb1sm same I was in W. 130th tho. But I went to the east side from time to time bc a lot of family lived there so ik how bad it is over there. Shit is sad bruh
The amount of racists and uneducated comments on this video truly scares me. It really does scare me.
You should be more scared of your cousin, statisticly, that's who is going to shoot you in the face over a Little Debbie Honey Bunn.
IeeIee 2 things those making racist comments hate are being called racist and black people
The truth is scary
Grew up in East Cleveland went to Superior grade school Kirk Jr. High and was a grad. from Shaw1964. So sad to see what happened to this once wonderful city.
Worked on Euclid Ave and Taylor from 1965 until 1971 and then worked in Cleveland Hts. Noble rd. until 1974. Then on to 222nd st. and Lakeshore in Euclid until moving to Nevada in 1976. Wish I had never come across this video. I knew that the city was in bad shape but seeing the places that I once enjoyed as a kid on this video just sickens me.
I am surprised this video isn't bigger. I'd support a full-length documentary. We can make a change!
I remember living in Cleveland for three years while I was in job crops on Euclid and Carnegie and it was a party city back in them days. Downtown was lit but then after the 90s was winding down so Did the importance off the cities and its people. Honestly I believe that if people gave more of a damn about their communities and stop waiting on the government for everything, we can get our communities together. Jobs are needed, create them, clean up your streets, be a crossing guard and watch out for your kids standing on the corners, volunteer at schools, kitchens, help those you see need it in stead of yelling government help , yell community help, neighbors help.js
This victim mentality is distressing!
I thank e.c. could reinvent it's self. I mean a few bars a gay bar, couple liquor stos . A gun shop, some drug dealers, a chop shop, a car wash,a hair salon, a nail salon, a pimp wit some hoes, a resale shop, a check cashing place, a gay bath house, a crack house, and get rid of da Po Po yo. Cause they just cause trouble. A chicken shack, a rib joint and a after hours bar! I no we could do dis! Shit man I can see it all now.
Harlem, Jersey City, Newark, Brooklyn used to be places whites ran from, didn't want to live there but look who's moving in now.
stbx43z and look who's making it fit to live in ,reclaiming it from the ones who moved in and eventually turned it in to a ghetto. Used to be a fancy neighborhood that you'd doll up and wear pearls too. It's nice to see it reclaimed, made nice and restored.
Blacks can't even afford to live there any more even the Bronx though it's still not all peachy.
mike johnson
You'd be amazed where you can afford to live when you put in the effort to learn skills that qualify a person to do more than just flip burgers.
That goes with out saying.
I remember East Cleveland being very nice in the 70's and 80's.
This sucks I worked out of Huron Rd Hospital on EMS.
This is so sad.
Bunch if those folks moving out here to the burbs now and messing stuff up 🤦🏾♂️
sarlndr right.
I grew up in a west side suburb of Cleveland. This situation, African Americans on the near east side of Cleveland, called the "Hough" District has persisted for my entire life of 68 years. This was the epicenter of the riots in the sixties. I moved out west to get away from that city...a city where the river caught on fire. But, having said that, these folks persist in being victims, they will not, or won't not roll up their sleeves and fix their problems. All they have to do is look across the lake at Detroit... I'm not a racist, but how much longer are these people going to be looking for someone else to fix THEIR community. If the police are as corrupt as they say, then the FBI and federal authorities should be vigilant and prosecute rogue cops. But this issue has persisted for a long time....it's so sad.
I lived in Collinwood in the early 80's and for 17 years it was a very nice place to live. They started the busing as the blacks thought they were not getting a decent education. Everyone kept their homes and property up,such a nice place to live . So after the busing here comes the kids from east 148,149,150,crossing over East 152nd to go up Saranac Road to school .
The kids just could not walk up the street to the school ,they started branching out into the neighborhoods . First graffiti on the houses,one morning 2 young kids threw a rock through my neighbors front window and ran ,then they started stealing newspapers .
Soon stolen cars were brought in and one burned in the lot behind my house and one sat a week out in the front with the column peeled and dash ripped apart windows broke out .
Before I even realized the whole neighborhood was a ghetto . I packed up my stuff and it all was left in my rear view mirror .
That was in the late 90's That place now is nothing but a ghetto. I want to know who was the blame for this ? Who destroyed this nice neighborhood ? Anyone with a brain got the heck outta there .
I moved out of Cleveland and you could not pay me to live in that crap hole.
I went to the Cleveland Institute of Art in the late 60's, early 70's and I used to drive from Parma to University Circle. The route took me thru downtown, onto the Shoreway drive and then down Liberty Blvd...now I think it's call MLK Blvd. I prayed I wouldn't break down on Liberty Blvd., because of the neighborhood surrounding it. After I graduated, and the Cuyahoga River caught on fire, the crime in the city and the crap weather of NE Ohio, I took a job for a high tech firm in Boise, Idaho in the early 80's....Best thing I ever did...fly fishing in the river running right thru town, pristine water and air...the Rocky Mountain....I never, never, never looked back. The people living in Hough and East Cleveland have only themselves to blame. During the administration of Carl Stokes, they bought into the liberal lie that the white man had done this to them. As long as these people identify as victims, waiting for someone else to clean up THEIR mess, they will continue to fail....I didn't want to waste my life in the shit hole that Cleveland has become.
Who owns the land? The same people allowing this city to deteriorate to a point where they sell the property by imminent domain and gentrify it later when everyone finally abandoned it. Use history as lesson and not ignorance and racism the number statement of a racist/bigot or someone trying to say a problem is racial rather than addressing the actual issue is I’m not a racist 😒 sure buddy. If you weren’t you wouldn’t have added that statement. Look into the sources of the problem and quit blaming the results. I guess according to you what they did in New York and other areas that have been more recently gentrified was white people saving the day again 🤦♀️ people like you choose to be blind to reality to pad your egos and hide from the mirror
@@whosthat6944 I agree with some of what u said. I only take issue with ur comment that just because someone points out something racial that means they "are" a racist, hence why they pointed it out, according to u. Thats really not true. As Skip Bayless even said (bad reference i know) "Something can be racial without it being racist". This is 100% true. Its only now in this pussified world that anything having to do with race is automatically deemed racist. Why do u think stand up comics dont even make racial jokes anymore? Cause everyone is a pussy and cant take a joke, or even a racial statement without it being deemed as racist.
Same thing is happening in Canton, but everyone wants to turn a blind eye until it’s to late. The land remains the same. It’s people that change. It’s people that destroy themselves and communities.
It's not about the blight, it's about the people that caused the blight. They just set back and expect someone else to do all the work and provide the money. It's your neighborhood, you fix it, start a business of some kind and use the income to fix you home.
I literally just drive through EC last night just for old time's sake. I was sick to see what my old home looks like. Whole streets abandoned, pot holes that look more like craters. The whole city needs to be leveled, for safety sake and start over. Makes me want to cry real tears.
Us Black People going to have to STOP Voting Democrat, it's the only way to make our Black Communities to do BETTER. That's the bottom of line. Democratic are just bunch of braggin' liars.
Us White people want segregation from blacks and other non whites....part white being non white.......
Watching this just makes me wanna cry! I feel so bad for them. If I had the money I'd help these individuals to get better resources and get the crooked officials out of office. I'd help the people get better safety, better paying jobs whatever I could do to help!!
They have to vote
It is sad. Not one of those “crooked officials” has an (R) next to their name. Defund the police may have been a bad idea. Again, not one politician with an (R) supported defund the police movement.
Hi joe nice video very sad though I grew up by Euclid Ohio and that city has changed also .
I 💘 the spirit of the people of Cleveland. If I have to be at the bottom-these are the people who find humor in life-Love this video.
those 4 residents are sweet nice people🦋
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Now you see why Lebron has a hard time recruiting all stars to come play in cleveland with him. lol
A+ Joseph. Job WELL DONE.
I wish the spoken parts were a couple of notches above the soundtrack, and in both channels, but I’m Very Glad You made THIS.
We moved from a Middle Class TX Neighborhood to CLE Hts.
Our kids spent 1 yr attending Monticello MS.
Then we transferred to a Charter School Dwn Twn.
Had to drive from Mayfield rd up N Taylor, West on Euclid past Shaw HS :( , then North up Superior.
We ALL Witnessed your Subject Matter twice a day for 2 years.
It’s So Disheartening.
I believe the E CLE school district is the poorest in OH, and ?4th poorest in the Nation perhaps?
So Incredibly Sad. Thank You for your well made Film.
Under progressive leadership. This is America's future.
City of E.C is broke too they have two police officers 25/7 and one firefighter with bucket of water lol
If i bought your neighbor’s house and just let it rot you could sue me because it hurts your land value... we should FORCE the banks that stole all these properties through foreclosure to maintain the properties.
I’ve been to east Cle+ and it is the most dangerous place i have ever been, people that look like bouncers getting robbed! I used to work with a guy so jacked that when he got mugged at w100 & detroit (west cleveland) they stabbed him in the neck and the knife got stuck in the muscle & they couldn’t get the knife back out to stab him again.... think about that WHO ROBS A GUY THAT MASSIVE. He was dirt poor and had nothing fancy... no gold chain to steal just a giant monster fresh out of prison.... the crime is like piranhas just looking for something to bite. On New Years bullets rain from the sky so frequently that getting inside before “they start shooting” is a major concern. Lets face it the banks own 25% of that land and do nothing to maintain it, they need to.
Banks own a good number of homes in my town. Some want people to move in, but people can be trouble... let the houses stay empty. I dont want to replicate the inner city.
Sunset Cliff ya fine let them be empty but the owner of the property has a responsibility to maintain that property weather they are real people or banks
@@jerkfudgewater147 I can litterally go to jail for a code violation... but a bank cant.
You are correct. If I sell my home then I must correct all code violations or sale the house as is and make the buyer aware of any known defects. The banks sells homes "as is" without having to disclose any known defects. In many cases, the buyer cannot hire a company to inspect the home for defects. You must pay cash for the homes. Therefore, you cannot borrow money for the purchase and repair of the home. If you have money to purchase the home then many of the east side suburbs require that you deposit 150% of the needed repair money. We have foreigners and speculators buying up homes and doing on the cheap repairs. Today on NewsChannel 5, there is a story about how banks and others deny loan opportunities to African Americans. I have refurbished 3 homes in a first rate manner, I have excellent credit, and good savings but I must fight to secure a loan with lenders.
@@turboredcart I lived in East Cleveland and the house next to me was left vacant. One morning I came home and discovered the door to the neighboring house ajar. I took my gun and cleared out the druggies out of the home. I nailed the doors closed with large spikes. It kept the intruders out. The home was rehabbed and sold.
Sin is why. As long as people believe living a depraved life is ok, our cities will reflect our actions as a people.
Make sure your video audio is set to stereo before exporting. Informative video. Nice work.
Abandoned, yes...but abandoned by whom? White residents left, and businesses left. To those who say white residents and businesses have to accommodate black priorities: what kind of example is East Cleveland? The residents blame the city, but the real issue isn't crooks...it's a tax base that collapsed. Perceptions of property value have consequences on taxes. You can legislate, but you can't tell people what to think.
There are identical examples in similar neighborhoods of St. Louis, Detroit, New York, Philadelphia...one could go on.
I could see an episode of "The Walking Dead" being filmed there.
I amend my earlier comment to state that after reading more information on corrupt officials in the City of East Cleveland, starting with ex-mayor Gary Norton, and remembering Leach's conviction in 1989 for selling cocaine at WVU, I can now see him getting caught up in a scandal such as this.
I lived in East Cleveland for a brief minute in 1993-1994. It was going downhill then. I worked with Melran Leach at a Cleveland hotel in 1994 and find it hard to believe he would get himself caught up in something such as this. It's a sin and a shame.
In order to solve a problem, you must first identify the root cause of said problem. And that's just what this video didn't do. It didn't delve into how this community became like this. Why did the businesses leave or close? Once you know why, then you can take steps to correct the problem. But just interviewing residents and hearing their complaints isn't going to solve anything.
All the gang violence drug dealing and armed robberies are why east Cleveland is trash. Young people don't want to find a job and believe me there is jobs. They would rather sell drugs and rob than work
I hate reading comments in videos. People are so heartless and disgraceful. So worried about if the people in the videos are missing meals instead of the bigger picture. They are living around a city that is ran down, living in amongst conditions that weren’t always there. What they eat don’t have Shit to do with the Police not responding to calls or to city officials not handling their business with all the damn abandon buildings. I live in Cleveland and I avoid E.C.
yeah no kidding. i mean to an extent, i am of the mindset that these people should try to do more for themselves but at the same time im disgusted at the comments made here. driving through rural west virginia is worse than this and its all white people. they live on the side of mountains in stacked shipping containers with no discernible property and with everything overgrown
What's up let's change the world
@@taylort123in Appalachia, they are not crying for government to save them
This is so true people don't realize that east Cleveland would be so much more beautiful if the abandoned houses were torn down
What happened to the city I grew up in? I left in 1978 with my parents at eleven or twelve from Kingsford Avenue a few streets north of upper Miles Rd. In E. Cleveland. I have fond memories of Cleveland, but to see what it's become is beyond sad. But Cleveland will always be my home.
I was waiting for the old guy in the plaid shirt with his belly sticking out to day......"Dammmm Lotness monsah"..."He wants Tree-fiddy"
south park reference? lmao
I live in EC the schools suck and it's potholes everywhere and a lot of bandos
I grew up down there and 40 years ago it did not look like this sad
it doesn't take blacks to fuck up anything look at all african nations they can't even feed themselves african nations have highest infant mortality rates in the world yet blacks in this country are never happy thunk goodness i nolonger live with blacks i use to hate being in bed at night hearing gun battles right outside my bedroom window what if all races in this country acted like this
Who did all the damage?? I live in a 125 year old house that has windows??
It's starting here in Cincinnati Ohio . I truly hope Cincinnati Learns from Cleveland Ohio's mistakes. May God Bless All of Ohio and America::) The World 🌎 May there be Peace. Merry Christmas 2018