When you make those 2 observations....and mix them together....it paints a whole new picture of planets and the stars. Have to think in terms dimensions if you plan to really make some discoveries that are MIND blowing!
@CressKayEdge...an airplane gives you two big advanages: 1) The plane comes home every night. You can change out and upgrade the instruments after every mission. In space, once you launch, it's gone...no repairs or upgrades. 2) You can fly the plane anywhere around the world. In space, your orbit is fixed...you can't reposition easily. 3) In space, you are limited to the data you can get from the spacecraft. Many mission use the deep space network, so your bandwidth/data is very limited.
There are many imaginative approaches on how astronomers can analyze the sky. SOFIA is what you get when space based telescopes are at a premium. But for most astronomers, just getting 5 miles above sea level is sufficient for good working conditions. For the price of sending an astronaut on a Soyuz, you have the annual budget for this airborne laboratory. But as optics advance, telemetry improves and space-based payload get cheaper.. mini-sats abd micro-sats are revising this market in India.
This would blow the mind of Edwin Hubble. He would have been thrilled. Gallileo had no idea what we humans could accomplish once we didn't have to worry about the RCC's interference.
Sadly, SOFIA made its last flight in September 2022 after NASA ended the program. Jason really enjoyed working on it, flying over 50 successful missions and made a lot of friends.
@MoedeMedia I agree with 1) but it has to compensate the flight cost for each operation. But for 2), you can select your orbit properly to get the best vantage point (i.e. high inclination orbit) but of course, it has some other disadvantages. As for 3) space-based telescope bandwidth is indeed limited, but sufficient for scientific usage I'd say. Flying on plane does offer some advantages, yes, but I'm just curious about the cost over one-time rocket launch.
see point 2) of MoedeMedia. SOFIA can be used to quickly observe phenomena as they appear around the globe. Some sort of dirigible would take much longer to move around, and gain altitude, and whether or not it could be manned is still questionable.
Doesn't this mean more fuel expenses on every operation for SOFIA? Why don't just launch the telescope into space and get a better vantage point than 40,000 feet?
Just looked up some rough, rough numbers. For a 12 hour flight, I'm estimating the fuel tanks hold about 35,000 gallons of jet fuel. With an average price of $3.81/gallon for jet fuel (Source: iata.org - Jet fuel price monitor) that works out to $135,000 for a 14 hour flight. That's 370 or so flights for a single $50 million launch. You can get a lot of science for that single launch. Multiple instruments, making changes on the fly and going anywhere in the world to get your data.
How can an outsider interested in astronomy can fly with S.O.F.I.A.? I envy the lucky elite of astronomers using all those modern extraordinarily engineered facilities, looking at the miracles of the universe.
@CressKayEdge...don't know the exact numbers, but roughly a Delta II rocket costs about $37 million to launch a payload. That's for a satellite about 4000 kilograms. Let's say $50 million to launch a space-based version of SOFIA. I have no idea of the year-to-year operations cost...but $50 million will buy you a lot of gas and crew time to fly anywhere in the world!
These activities and researches are what make us more human. As some people think, we'd still be burning people at the stake. SOFIA is so great and great too all what implies.
Interestingly, I didn't see a woman anywhere on board. I noticed a couple of women's names in the end credits giving special thanks, but no other female input or involvement. It's a little perplexing..
When you make those 2 observations....and mix them together....it paints a whole new picture of planets and the stars. Have to think in terms dimensions if you plan to really make some discoveries that are MIND blowing!
@CressKayEdge...an airplane gives you two big advanages: 1) The plane comes home every night. You can change out and upgrade the instruments after every mission. In space, once you launch, it's gone...no repairs or upgrades. 2) You can fly the plane anywhere around the world. In space, your orbit is fixed...you can't reposition easily. 3) In space, you are limited to the data you can get from the spacecraft. Many mission use the deep space network, so your bandwidth/data is very limited.
There are many imaginative approaches on how astronomers can analyze the sky. SOFIA is what you get when space based telescopes are at a premium. But for most astronomers, just getting 5 miles above sea level is sufficient for good working conditions. For the price of sending an astronaut on a Soyuz, you have the annual budget for this airborne laboratory. But as optics advance, telemetry improves and space-based payload get cheaper.. mini-sats abd micro-sats are revising this market in India.
Good Job guys/gals. not only do you look at shadows but also brightness as well. Its the ying/yang of energy.
Also, Sophia (Σοφíα, Greek for "wisdom") is a central idea in Hellenistic philosophy and religion.
Great name for this Project.
This would blow the mind of Edwin Hubble. He would have been thrilled. Gallileo had no idea what we humans could accomplish once we didn't have to worry about the RCC's interference.
How do you stabilize precisely the telescope on a vibrating plane?
My son Jason just joined SOFIA as an instrument scientist. He will fly on his first mission in April 2021.
Sadly, SOFIA made its last flight in September 2022 after NASA ended the program. Jason really enjoyed working on it, flying over 50 successful missions and made a lot of friends.
@MoedeMedia I agree with 1) but it has to compensate the flight cost for each operation. But for 2), you can select your orbit properly to get the best vantage point (i.e. high inclination orbit) but of course, it has some other disadvantages.
As for 3) space-based telescope bandwidth is indeed limited, but sufficient for scientific usage I'd say.
Flying on plane does offer some advantages, yes, but I'm just curious about the cost over one-time rocket launch.
see point 2) of MoedeMedia. SOFIA can be used to quickly observe phenomena as they appear around the globe. Some sort of dirigible would take much longer to move around, and gain altitude, and whether or not it could be manned is still questionable.
Doesn't this mean more fuel expenses on every operation for SOFIA? Why don't just launch the telescope into space and get a better vantage point than 40,000 feet?
Just looked up some rough, rough numbers. For a 12 hour flight, I'm estimating the fuel tanks hold about 35,000 gallons of jet fuel. With an average price of $3.81/gallon for jet fuel (Source: iata.org - Jet fuel price monitor) that works out to $135,000 for a 14 hour flight. That's 370 or so flights for a single $50 million launch. You can get a lot of science for that single launch. Multiple instruments, making changes on the fly and going anywhere in the world to get your data.
Pluto [demoted to 'dwarf planet'] has an atmosphere?
How can an outsider interested in astronomy can fly with S.O.F.I.A.?
I envy the lucky elite of astronomers using all those modern extraordinarily engineered facilities, looking at the miracles of the universe.
@CressKayEdge...don't know the exact numbers, but roughly a Delta II rocket costs about $37 million to launch a payload. That's for a satellite about 4000 kilograms. Let's say $50 million to launch a space-based version of SOFIA. I have no idea of the year-to-year operations cost...but $50 million will buy you a lot of gas and crew time to fly anywhere in the world!
These activities and researches are what make us more human. As some people think, we'd still be burning people at the stake. SOFIA is so great and great too all what implies.
Incredibly... I always wanted to be astronomer... unfortunately in Ecuador there is not available this wonderful career.... ! too bad
So cool!
Cheers for that
nice vid
Its just stars we are interested in looking at honest because they would never lie would they
i thought sofia is all about the flight attendant :) i guess im wrong
NOPE,
SOFIA is the name of my city.
Based out of Christchurch, Oh Yeah!!!
Interestingly, I didn't see a woman anywhere on board. I noticed a couple of women's names in the end credits giving special thanks, but no other female input or involvement. It's a little perplexing..
+Peter P. So?
Life formed because God created it. Problem solved..
keep looking for life beginnings you will be looking for a long time fools