I admit the title of the video got my Attention. After watching it and reading the comments here I would like to give you my two cents. First, you know you are doing something right when you have a mix of those telling you how good a job you have done on the video and just as many saying you are wrong. That means they watched the video all the way through and formed an opinion. Now, I will give you my opinion. Everything you said was factually correct. As you mentioned it would take far to long to go into detail. Most important things people watching should take away are these. Sam Houston from the moment of Santa Anna's surrender knew that my beloved Texas could never stand on its own as a republic. Yes, all of us Natives want to think it could but it could not. If not Mexico it would have been Spain, France or England. Annexation by the United States was the only way for Texas to remain. Second, anyone can claim anything the want just as you said in the video. What matters is defending your claim to the land and lets face it. As you said, the land through CO and WY at that time was not profitable. Still it was a claim and that claim was never challenged. One lat thing, When I was young growing up in Hood County Texas no one could have made me believe what I just typed here. It was not until I was older I could understand all the wheels that were in motion at that time in our great states history. GOD BLESS TEXAS
Thanks for the kind words! 100% agree with you here! I think Texans take it as a personal insult when you suggest that some things that we were told were maybe not as grand or golden as they seem. The point of discussions like this is not to disparage or insult but instead to educate and learn!
Thanks for covering this chapter in Texas History. Texans believed in expansionism. Houston threatened to take Oregon Territory. They had big ideas. The Santa Fe Expedition members were not sent to Mexico. They walked. One of the ways to see where Texans had advanced to is to look at an 1860's map of Texas with the population of slaves. At that time, slave holders had only advanced to Haskell County. Comanches controlled most of the area west of there. Then the Civil War came, and the frontier rolled back 100 miles east. Even Ft. Worth had empty houses.
Hey there. Thanks for watching. As mentioned in the video, I had to skim over quite a few things in order to keep this from being a 2 hour long documentary. The Comanche, slave's rights and slavery (both in the US and in Texas), as well as a LOT of internal politics in the US administrations of the time play a huge part in both the Texan revolution and its eventual annexation into the Union. I hope to give these topics their own spotlight in the future but for the purposes of this short form video, I did my best to acknowledge them whilst not opening those cans of worms. Additionally, I'm no professional historian and while I do my best to verify and double check all of my information, sources, and scripts, I get stuff wrong sometimes! Please do let me know if there was a mistake here in the comments both for myself and those viewing to learn from :) Thanks, y'all.
This touches on why Texas includes El Paso as well, which was long claimed but President Lamar kept failing to secure the town until just before Texas statehood negotiations.
Still, it's fun to imagine ski resorts like Angel Fire and Aspen being located in north Texas. Imagine the tourist promotions: *_"Ski Texas!"_* LOL Side note: Besides being a rather harsh dictator, Santa Anna was also an entrepreneur of sorts. He's credited with contributing to the development of the first commercial chewing gum while he was living in exile in New York City some years after all that unpleasantness down in Texas. Now you know!
Yes for sure! Alternative history for fun is a great way to use the imagination and think about some fun alternative timelines! And yes! Santa Anna was a crazy (but very interesting) person who probably lived one of the craziest lives of any human ever. I highly recommend that anyone read his biography. Thanks for watching!
There are journals and letters from Mexican army officers that are very insightful. They were written prior to the Republic years, of course, but help sort out some myths.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. And yes - exaggeration is a great word. There's still a lot of storied history and information about the republic but I believe it's important to look past the often extreme claims about said Republic if you actually want to learn about the real Republic.
One of the problems with Academic training is that it gives students a formatic illusion that things have evolved to be what they Should be or Must be (pick your buzzword, Teleological, Ontological etc ). Modern Americans have a difficult time visualizing a Mirabeau Lamarr, just as they have difficulty realizing (current) El Salvadoran President Bukele, who, in fact 99% of us have never heard of, despite his great record of Success . . . what both these men had in common was a determination and belief in their own ability to Create a future, to shape their environment. There were a disproportionate number of such people in Old Texas. In today's world people are more likely to ask, "What is the Correct data, the Accepted answer . . . what must I know to be on the Correct side of X issue . . ."
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Thank you for this. Growing up in Texas, we get so "brainswashed" about Texas Hisstor, never reallylearning the truth or details....just "remember the Alamo" LOL. I had to go to MEXICO to find out that one of the reasons Texas broke away from them was due to slavery.
Thank you for watching! Yes, slavery in Texas's departure from Mexico is an often overlooked fact of the matter and additionally, slavery played a very large part in the decision whether or not it would be annexed into the Union! Would love to dive more into both of these topics in the near future.
It’s not an exaggeration when the President/Dictator signs the treaty stating our border was at the Rio Grande. That would be like claiming the US after Independence was the size that it was. The war of 1812 showed that we couldn’t prevent incursions from the British into the US. We could fight back which we did.
The end of the US revolutionary war was ended by formal treatise, brokered by multiple global powers, with all parties present and willing to negotiate an end to a conflict. That treaty was then ratified by all attending parties and acknowledged by practically every western power as law. The Treaties of Velasco were signed by Santa Anna in a swampy field in South East Texas with zero outside console, brokerage, or arbitration after a hilariously poor attempt at quelling a rebellion (of which he made numerous mistakes over the course of). A rebellion that was only one of a number of other rebellions that happened across Mexico at this time. Its not really a stretch to understand why Mexico did not acknowledge said treaties and quickly removed Santa Anna from his throne before he even got back to Mexico. Additionally, the Santa Anna x Mexico relationship is incredibly complicated and complex. Mexican politics of the 18th century are a deep a rabbit hole. Santa Anna alone was the leader of Mexico 11 times but most of this non consecutive and his worst stint as leader of Mexico wouldn't come till after the war for Texan independence. Lastly, there was zero chance that Texas would've been able to repulse another Mexican invasion unless it had unfettered military support from the US. As discussed in the video, Houston's whole goal from the day San Jacinto happened was to get annexed into the US. It was NEVER about being a republic long term. Houston knew that Texas would be swallowed up by the geopolitical maelstrom that was 1800s North America. Texas had no money, no infrastructure, and no industry. Its existence was predicated on the United States building enough political capital to annex it into the union before Mexico reorganized and tried again.
While it is probably true that Texas was not able to goverern and control the northern parts of the area within its borders, the United States did not get this land until they annexed Texas. Since they got this area of land when they annexed Texas the area was considered a part of the Republic of Texas at the time no matter any other circumstances.
Born and raised right here in central Texas. Both sides of my family immigrated here from the modern day Czech Republic in the 1870s and 1880s and have occupied south east Texas (Milam, Colorado, Lavaca, Jackson, Victoria counties). Far from anti-texan. I just like to learn more about the state and sometimes that means learning that some things you have been told are or were incorrect. Just like with everything in life, you become a better person and grow by facing uncomfortable truths and learning from mistakes. If we pretend these don't exist, then we don't learn.
I admit the title of the video got my Attention. After watching it and reading the comments here I would like to give you my two cents. First, you know you are doing something right when you have a mix of those telling you how good a job you have done on the video and just as many saying you are wrong. That means they watched the video all the way through and formed an opinion. Now, I will give you my opinion. Everything you said was factually correct. As you mentioned it would take far to long to go into detail. Most important things people watching should take away are these. Sam Houston from the moment of Santa Anna's surrender knew that my beloved Texas could never stand on its own as a republic. Yes, all of us Natives want to think it could but it could not. If not Mexico it would have been Spain, France or England. Annexation by the United States was the only way for Texas to remain. Second, anyone can claim anything the want just as you said in the video. What matters is defending your claim to the land and lets face it. As you said, the land through CO and WY at that time was not profitable. Still it was a claim and that claim was never challenged. One lat thing, When I was young growing up in Hood County Texas no one could have made me believe what I just typed here. It was not until I was older I could understand all the wheels that were in motion at that time in our great states history. GOD BLESS TEXAS
Thanks for the kind words!
100% agree with you here! I think Texans take it as a personal insult when you suggest that some things that we were told were maybe not as grand or golden as they seem.
The point of discussions like this is not to disparage or insult but instead to educate and learn!
Thanks for covering this chapter in Texas History.
Texans believed in expansionism. Houston threatened
to take Oregon Territory. They had big ideas.
The Santa Fe Expedition members were not sent to Mexico.
They walked.
One of the ways to see where Texans had advanced to
is to look at an 1860's map of Texas with the population of slaves.
At that time, slave holders had only advanced to Haskell County.
Comanches controlled most of the area west of there.
Then the Civil War came, and the frontier rolled back 100 miles east.
Even Ft. Worth had empty houses.
Hey there. Thanks for watching.
As mentioned in the video, I had to skim over quite a few things in order to keep this from being a 2 hour long documentary. The Comanche, slave's rights and slavery (both in the US and in Texas), as well as a LOT of internal politics in the US administrations of the time play a huge part in both the Texan revolution and its eventual annexation into the Union. I hope to give these topics their own spotlight in the future but for the purposes of this short form video, I did my best to acknowledge them whilst not opening those cans of worms.
Additionally, I'm no professional historian and while I do my best to verify and double check all of my information, sources, and scripts, I get stuff wrong sometimes! Please do let me know if there was a mistake here in the comments both for myself and those viewing to learn from :)
Thanks, y'all.
Heck yeah dude.
Quality over quantity. Always a good day when you upload!
This touches on why Texas includes El Paso as well, which was long claimed but President Lamar kept failing to secure the town until just before Texas statehood negotiations.
Still, it's fun to imagine ski resorts like Angel Fire and Aspen being located in north Texas. Imagine the tourist promotions: *_"Ski Texas!"_* LOL
Side note: Besides being a rather harsh dictator, Santa Anna was also an entrepreneur of sorts. He's credited with contributing to the development of the first commercial chewing gum while he was living in exile in New York City some years after all that unpleasantness down in Texas. Now you know!
Yes for sure! Alternative history for fun is a great way to use the imagination and think about some fun alternative timelines!
And yes! Santa Anna was a crazy (but very interesting) person who probably lived one of the craziest lives of any human ever. I highly recommend that anyone read his biography.
Thanks for watching!
I was surprised you only had 256 subscribers great quality video
There are journals and letters from Mexican army officers that are very insightful. They were written prior to the Republic years, of course, but help sort out some myths.
Good stuff. Thanks. I liked the use of the word exaggeration. It seems to run throughout Texas$ history.
As a native Texan, I claim that. 😊
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
And yes - exaggeration is a great word. There's still a lot of storied history and information about the republic but I believe it's important to look past the often extreme claims about said Republic if you actually want to learn about the real Republic.
You should see the lifted trucks here. They definitely making up for something.
Hey, loving your videos, dude. Keep at it; you're making some really interesting videos. Can't wait to watch more of your stuff!
I don’t think too many today are hung up on an old territorial map. Texas retains its great history either way, and is a great place to live and work.
One of the problems with Academic training is that it gives students a formatic illusion that things have evolved to be what they Should be or Must be (pick your buzzword, Teleological, Ontological etc ). Modern Americans have a difficult time visualizing a Mirabeau Lamarr, just as they have difficulty realizing (current) El Salvadoran President Bukele, who, in fact 99% of us have never heard of, despite his great record of Success . . . what both these men had in common was a determination and belief in their own ability to Create a future, to shape their environment. There were a disproportionate number of such people in Old Texas. In today's world people are more likely to ask, "What is the Correct data, the Accepted answer . . . what must I know to be on the Correct side of X issue . . ."
The book was written by William Carey Crane esq in the year 1884. William Carey Crane he was also the President of Baylor University
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I don't think Texas ever defended it's current borders either.
So, there's that
Thank you for this. Growing up in Texas, we get so "brainswashed" about Texas Hisstor, never reallylearning the truth or details....just "remember the Alamo" LOL. I had to go to MEXICO to find out that one of the reasons Texas broke away from them was due to slavery.
Thank you for watching!
Yes, slavery in Texas's departure from Mexico is an often overlooked fact of the matter and additionally, slavery played a very large part in the decision whether or not it would be annexed into the Union!
Would love to dive more into both of these topics in the near future.
I agree about the myth/fact statement. It is a nice map, though.
wow the cininatagraphy and story telling were amazing! You've got a bright future ahead of you.
Thank you so much!
Thats a true old map surveyed by the spainards nimrod
The exaggerating was probably just a way to honor those who died on those expeditions. Great and informative video ❤
Dylan you should read up on your history. you don't make up your own history because you don't agree with the past.
It’s not an exaggeration when the President/Dictator signs the treaty stating our border was at the Rio Grande. That would be like claiming the US after Independence was the size that it was. The war of 1812 showed that we couldn’t prevent incursions from the British into the US. We could fight back which we did.
The end of the US revolutionary war was ended by formal treatise, brokered by multiple global powers, with all parties present and willing to negotiate an end to a conflict. That treaty was then ratified by all attending parties and acknowledged by practically every western power as law.
The Treaties of Velasco were signed by Santa Anna in a swampy field in South East Texas with zero outside console, brokerage, or arbitration after a hilariously poor attempt at quelling a rebellion (of which he made numerous mistakes over the course of). A rebellion that was only one of a number of other rebellions that happened across Mexico at this time.
Its not really a stretch to understand why Mexico did not acknowledge said treaties and quickly removed Santa Anna from his throne before he even got back to Mexico.
Additionally, the Santa Anna x Mexico relationship is incredibly complicated and complex. Mexican politics of the 18th century are a deep a rabbit hole. Santa Anna alone was the leader of Mexico 11 times but most of this non consecutive and his worst stint as leader of Mexico wouldn't come till after the war for Texan independence.
Lastly, there was zero chance that Texas would've been able to repulse another Mexican invasion unless it had unfettered military support from the US. As discussed in the video, Houston's whole goal from the day San Jacinto happened was to get annexed into the US. It was NEVER about being a republic long term. Houston knew that Texas would be swallowed up by the geopolitical maelstrom that was 1800s North America.
Texas had no money, no infrastructure, and no industry. Its existence was predicated on the United States building enough political capital to annex it into the union before Mexico reorganized and tried again.
While it is probably true that Texas was not able to goverern and control the northern parts of the area within its borders, the United States did not get this land until they annexed Texas. Since they got this area of land when they annexed Texas the area was considered a part of the Republic of Texas at the time no matter any other circumstances.
Why should trusted you.
You need to move to California. Anti-Texan
Born and raised right here in central Texas.
Both sides of my family immigrated here from the modern day Czech Republic in the 1870s and 1880s and have occupied south east Texas (Milam, Colorado, Lavaca, Jackson, Victoria counties).
Far from anti-texan.
I just like to learn more about the state and sometimes that means learning that some things you have been told are or were incorrect.
Just like with everything in life, you become a better person and grow by facing uncomfortable truths and learning from mistakes.
If we pretend these don't exist, then we don't learn.
@texteb: it’s been about a month since your comment and I was wondering if you’ve been able to verify or debunk info in this video?