To be ethical often costs a lot more. It makes the argument that you’re a better person if you can afford to be. Poorer people should not be made to feel bad they can’t afford the “good” option. It’s making ethics a classist issue.
very interesting indeed. At first I was taken a back by Giana Eckhardts standpoint, but now I see that it makes sense to nudge everyone into the right direction (without putting the responsibility on consumers) instead of participating in concious consumerism with just a few. It often results in greenwashing, fake goals and a price tag premium, whereas legislations and policies are far more sustainable source for change.
Thank you so much for inviting our Founder Sian to discuss such an important topic. A really interesting debate that showcases how complex conscious consumerism is, but hopefully with some practical and inspiring tips to get people started too.
The issue is that many people are in survival mode. They do not have the resources, time, and money, luxuries more associated with the affluent, to ethically source all purchases.
The reality is that the majority of people don’t care enough to make changes in their own lives. It’s great that some people are trying to encourage us to make ethical choices but the choices are too complex in many cases. It will take strict regulation to make change on the scale required and in the time required. I wish I could be more positive about this but there is still too much focus on economic growth at all costs. I don’t know what it will take for that to change.
Oh my God these panellist are so patronising towards the consumer. Are you kidding me? Consumers are making active choices more and more. They are refusing to buy and buying less based on supply chain transparency
But what is the limit of these consumers' capabilities to ethically and carefully purchase things? I have no idea. I just dont wanna put pesticides in my body.
We are not used to fix things anymore, I remember my grandma making carpet out of old T-shirts, fixing shoes, jackets and so on, we just refuse to do it nowadays as we are “too busy”. We just become lazy in my opinion.
I get what the problem is, really I do. The thing is, most people I know, live from pay cheque to pay cheque. If bananas are beyond a certain price, we can't buy them, whether they are ethically sourced, organic or imported. In my country, organic and ethically sourced are ALWAYS more expensive than ordinary. Spa hotels?? Not on my radar. A discussion like this has to become practical, so that less affluent people can made day to day choices. Animal farms for meat = climate change. How about we start there?
To be ethical often costs a lot more. It makes the argument that you’re a better person if you can afford to be. Poorer people should not be made to feel bad they can’t afford the “good” option. It’s making ethics a classist issue.
very interesting indeed. At first I was taken a back by Giana Eckhardts standpoint, but now I see that it makes sense to nudge everyone into the right direction (without putting the responsibility on consumers) instead of participating in concious consumerism with just a few. It often results in greenwashing, fake goals and a price tag premium, whereas legislations and policies are far more sustainable source for change.
I had the same feeling at first. I was also taken aback by her comments too. They all have good points to make.
Great discussion, thank you for having me on!
Thank you so much for inviting our Founder Sian to discuss such an important topic. A really interesting debate that showcases how complex conscious consumerism is, but hopefully with some practical and inspiring tips to get people started too.
If the dude could just let the ladies finish talking...
They aren't ever going to finish talking. That's why hes there.
The issue is that many people are in survival mode. They do not have the resources, time, and money, luxuries more associated with the affluent, to ethically source all purchases.
The reality is that the majority of people don’t care enough to make changes in their own lives. It’s great that some people are trying to encourage us to make ethical choices but the choices are too complex in many cases. It will take strict regulation to make change on the scale required and in the time required. I wish I could be more positive about this but there is still too much focus on economic growth at all costs. I don’t know what it will take for that to change.
Oh my God these panellist are so patronising towards the consumer. Are you kidding me? Consumers are making active choices more and more. They are refusing to buy and buying less based on supply chain transparency
But what is the limit of these consumers' capabilities to ethically and carefully purchase things? I have no idea. I just dont wanna put pesticides in my body.
We are not used to fix things anymore, I remember my grandma making carpet out of old T-shirts, fixing shoes, jackets and so on, we just refuse to do it nowadays as we are “too busy”. We just become lazy in my opinion.
I get what the problem is, really I do. The thing is, most people I know, live from pay cheque to pay cheque. If bananas are beyond a certain price, we can't buy them, whether they are ethically sourced, organic or imported. In my country, organic and ethically sourced are ALWAYS more expensive than ordinary.
Spa hotels?? Not on my radar.
A discussion like this has to become practical, so that less affluent people can made day to day choices.
Animal farms for meat = climate change. How about we start there?
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