What a freaking idiot for not taking the 158 million offer . He could not spend that money in multiple lifetimes! He might have had a better year by signing and taking the stress off of himself . Greedy and dumb move Boras & Alonzo
Maybe he put so much pressure on himself that he did not have a great season compared to 2 years ago- must be an ego thing to get paid compared to other players contracts? Me i would have took the money and played with no stress. Plus i would want to play for Mets and win World Series
I respect his decision to bet on himself. It obviously didn’t work out, so now he needs to be realistic. He should take a shorter term deal with high AAV and op outs in the first and second years.
Pete got the greedhead's agent. No one sane will offer a player ALREADY in steep decline player opt outs, ensuring they eat his decline at 25-30m a year.
I'd like to see him return. If not, the Mets need a similar player with similar stats. But, frankly, they also need a first base who can throw accurately to second base. Is Keith Hernandez available?
At this point he should sign a one year deal and see if he can get more money off of another “prove it” season. His last season certainly didn’t help him at all. At some point you need to take the hint that teams don’t think you are worth the money you are asking for. In the end it’s a business.
I admire his willingness to bet on himself, but he failed miserably with a 2nd declining year in a row in his walk year. Obviously, in hindsight, his decision was massively bad, but then doubling down by hiring Boras was hubris and delusion on Olympic scale. This will not end well for him. Mets should move on.
He will make more than 158 in the same 7 year span, probably a lot more. He also hit 40 hr with 131 rbi and hit 272 in 2022 and 46 with 118 rbi in 2023 despite a 217 avg. Vladdy hasn't hit more than 32 after 2021 and in 23 he hit 26 and hit like 264. He may be younger and have a higher avg but his decline in power numbers over the last 3 years has been clear and his numberrs have been wildly inconsistent. Pete will be fine and his decision was not "massively bad". You need to look up hubris and delusion and maybe rethink that olympic scale thing. Just as a fun excersie, take a look at the Jays lineup in 2021 when Vladdy hit 48/111 and hit 311. Then think about the absolute lack of protection Alonso has had in his career and why he would be swinging at sliders low and away. Spoiler: Conforto in 2019 hit 33 hrs, Alonso hit 53 with 120 rbi and a 260 ba and 941 ops that year. Since then pitchers have no reason to throw him anything anywhere near the plate because they knew there was nobody behind him to make them pay.
@robnirenberg4727 Well said. Even if he's no better than he was in 2024, Baty projects via fangraphs to 1.8 fWAR in 2025, whereas Pete was worth only 2.1 fWAR in 2024 and will be 30 in 2025, unlikely to be improving any. Move Vientos to 1B, Baty / Mauricio to 3B, and spend the 25m AAV they might have spent on Alonso on the DH they sorely need. ---If they're not going to play all of 2 or 3 young players, with 1 or 2 of those on the bench, guys with a respectable chance of being useful in 2025, what's the plan? To fill EVERY hole through free agency? That doesn't work even with a $350m payroll plus $100m in penalties and lost draft picks.
Its about time the Mets moved on.If getting this guy is just to support a fan base, then the fans are cutting their own throats. Mr. Cohen went way out of his way to get us Soto and Stearns is doing his best at putting together a team...but this guy is really not worth what he thinks he is worth. I hope the Mets look elsewhere inclusive in their farm system cause without being cynical, I think Mr. Alonso thinks he is a bit more important than he really is!
@99somerville No way, comrade. 3 years is the limit, and the AAV should be close to 20m. Alonso put up 2.1 fWAR in 2024, when an fWAR of 2.0 is around the minimum you want from a competent regular. He's already in steep decline and may never put up even one more season where he warrants a lineup slot.
If he makes anything over 23 mil per over the next six years he still comes out ahead of that 158 deal. Considering the Mets offered him 3/90, supposedly, and that mlb average salary went up 6% in 2022 and 11% in 2023, even on short term deals he will almost certainly make more than that over the same 7 year span. Much more if he bounces back from that down year. My guess is if they let him walk the Mets will regret it. Give him 6/168, you wont find that kind of power now, much less in a couple of years when avg salaries will have gone up incrementally. Yanks gave Judge 40 per after 2022 when he was going into his age 31 season, and at todays salaries he would have gotten 50+ easy. Not comparing the two players just the way contracts keep going up year to year. In 2019, Harper signed for 13/330. There is zero chance you'd get a player of his caliber at that kind of money today. Which is why he is angling for more money now, though his contract runs through 2031, and even tough he's missed a ton of games since then and he's 32.
I think it was a mistake for not taking the deal. a offer like this may not get better but worst. I love the guy lets keep it real if he want to stay a Met.
For all Alonso's blather about wanting to be a Met, he could have been one until retirement. Just another greedy deceiver full of hubris and ignorance.
When a players uses Boras, he wants a max payout. Pete should fire Boras. If he doesnt accept what the Mets are offering then the Mets should go elsewhere. The problem with that is they failed to signed anyone else forcing them to stick with Pete. There are still a few players the Mets can target.
@@KingPsy2025 he got Bor-ASS after turning down his extention prior to last seasons debacle of a "WALK" year. Further offers were all Bor-ASS. HOPEFULLY he learns from HIS mistakes. As did other Bor-ASS clients. Either way.......LGM!
Why do we care what they spend? Owner's rich....if there are better players on the team, that is good, regardless of price...They can spend 5 bil for all I care....keep right on spending. It doesn't really matter in a non salary cap sport. Only matters if the owners are rich.
@@5IveNDlme why do we care what they spend? Use your brain Sherlock. Those costs get passed on to the consumer meaning higher ticket costs, food costs and parking fees. A hot dog for $7? A beer for $16. 40-50 just to park your car. Cheapest seats $40. Family of 4 to watch a game minimum of $200.00. Sorry just not worth it to watch a bunch of primadonnas who care more about money then the game. Just a joke.
It sucks that Cole, Judge, Volpe and Wells will have to keep answering questions about what they were thinking in that 5th inning. And why Judge was smirking while answering questions after the game.
Judge was smiling because he was heading out to a vacation with his attractive wife and $36 million in yearly earnings...Wouldn't that make you smile..??
What a freaking idiot for not taking the 158 million offer . He could not spend that money in multiple lifetimes! He might have had a better year by signing and taking the stress off of himself . Greedy and dumb move Boras & Alonzo
Maybe he put so much pressure on himself that he did not have a great season compared to 2 years ago- must be an ego thing to get paid compared to other players contracts? Me i would have took the money and played with no stress. Plus i would want to play for Mets and win World Series
Boras was not Alonso's agent when he rejected the $158 million offer in 2023. Alonso hired Boras after he rejected the offer.
In addition, Eppler was the fool who persuaded Cohen to let him offer Alonso that much money.
I respect his decision to bet on himself. It obviously didn’t work out, so now he needs to be realistic. He should take a shorter term deal with high AAV and op outs in the first and second years.
Pete got the greedhead's agent. No one sane will offer a player ALREADY in steep decline player opt outs, ensuring they eat his decline at 25-30m a year.
I'd like to see him return. If not, the Mets need a similar player with similar stats. But, frankly, they also need a first base who can throw accurately to second base. Is Keith Hernandez available?
No, they don't.
Alonso is fine at first and he has the best scoop % in the majors, saving his infielders a lot of errors and his team more than a few runs.
Alonso also wanted a million dollar luxury suite, unlimited beer, popcorn and hotdogs for his family but only for 50 years.
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METS NEED QUALITY STARTING PITCHING GETTING ANOTHER HITTER IS A WASTE OF TIME. PETE SHOULD TAKE A 3 YR DEAL.
Alonso is mad he only got offered PEANUTS Only 158 million, while his teamate got 800 million.
Spotrac made the ridiculous projection of 9/270m for Petey. What a joke.
The Mets should not give in to Alonso. Let him walk he does not deserve all that money he strikes out much too much at the bat.
now he has turned away a met fan since 1967 he turned down 158 million if he doesn't take that then sign an hr rbi bat. he's not for met fans doe
At this point he should sign a one year deal and see if he can get more money off of another “prove it” season. His last season certainly didn’t help him at all. At some point you need to take the hint that teams don’t think you are worth the money you are asking for. In the end it’s a business.
I admire his willingness to bet on himself, but he failed miserably with a 2nd declining year in a row in his walk year. Obviously, in hindsight, his decision was massively bad, but then doubling down by hiring Boras was hubris and delusion on Olympic scale. This will not end well for him. Mets should move on.
He will make more than 158 in the same 7 year span, probably a lot more. He also hit 40 hr with 131 rbi and hit 272 in 2022 and 46 with 118 rbi in 2023 despite a 217 avg. Vladdy hasn't hit more than 32 after 2021 and in 23 he hit 26 and hit like 264. He may be younger and have a higher avg but his decline in power numbers over the last 3 years has been clear and his numberrs have been wildly inconsistent. Pete will be fine and his decision was not "massively bad". You need to look up hubris and delusion and maybe rethink that olympic scale thing. Just as a fun excersie, take a look at the Jays lineup in 2021 when Vladdy hit 48/111 and hit 311. Then think about the absolute lack of protection Alonso has had in his career and why he would be swinging at sliders low and away. Spoiler: Conforto in 2019 hit 33 hrs, Alonso hit 53 with 120 rbi and a 260 ba and 941 ops that year. Since then pitchers have no reason to throw him anything anywhere near the plate because they knew there was nobody behind him to make them pay.
Let him walk. Already starting to decline. Mets have options. Move Vientos to first. Arendo, Bregaman, Mauricio, or Baty can play third.
@robnirenberg4727 Well said. Even if he's no better than he was in 2024, Baty projects via fangraphs to 1.8 fWAR in 2025, whereas Pete was worth only 2.1 fWAR in 2024 and will be 30 in 2025, unlikely to be improving any. Move Vientos to 1B, Baty / Mauricio to 3B, and spend the 25m AAV they might have spent on Alonso on the DH they sorely need. ---If they're not going to play all of 2 or 3 young players, with 1 or 2 of those on the bench, guys with a respectable chance of being useful in 2025, what's the plan? To fill EVERY hole through free agency?
That doesn't work even with a $350m payroll plus $100m in penalties and lost draft picks.
Its about time the Mets moved on.If getting this guy is just to support a fan base, then the fans are cutting their own throats. Mr. Cohen went way out of his way to get us Soto and
Stearns is doing his best at putting together a team...but this guy is really not worth what he thinks he is worth. I hope the Mets look elsewhere inclusive in their farm system cause
without being cynical, I think Mr. Alonso thinks he is a bit more important than he really is!
Would I be happy with $158M?
I’d be happy with the taxes on it!
Should definitely took that offer, wtf
I thought the Mets were crazy to sign him up until age 37 in the first place. Five years would have been the limit.
@99somerville No way, comrade. 3 years is the limit, and the AAV should be close to 20m. Alonso put up 2.1 fWAR in 2024, when an fWAR of 2.0 is around the minimum you want from a competent regular. He's already in steep decline and may never put up even one more season where he warrants a lineup slot.
The offer was before 2024 and it would have been through his age 35 season.
he got greedy
So how did turning down that extension work for you goofy Pete 😂😂😂😂
Even know he will make more than that in the same 7 year span, so he will be fine.
Loser loser no chicken dinner. Take the 3 year deal and be happy!
The Mets' 3/90m offer is pure fiction.
If his BA over the last two years wasn't hovering just above .220 teams would have made him an offer.
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If he makes anything over 23 mil per over the next six years he still comes out ahead of that 158 deal. Considering the Mets offered him 3/90, supposedly, and that mlb average salary went up 6% in 2022 and 11% in 2023, even on short term deals he will almost certainly make more than that over the same 7 year span. Much more if he bounces back from that down year. My guess is if they let him walk the Mets will regret it. Give him 6/168, you wont find that kind of power now, much less in a couple of years when avg salaries will have gone up incrementally. Yanks gave Judge 40 per after 2022 when he was going into his age 31 season, and at todays salaries he would have gotten 50+ easy. Not comparing the two players just the way contracts keep going up year to year. In 2019, Harper signed for 13/330. There is zero chance you'd get a player of his caliber at that kind of money today. Which is why he is angling for more money now, though his contract runs through 2031, and even tough he's missed a ton of games since then and he's 32.
Beggars can wait 😊😊😊😊
He has made a mistake. He’s being too greedy for more money.
I think it was a mistake for not taking the deal. a offer like this may not get better but worst. I love the guy lets keep it real if he want to stay a Met.
For all Alonso's blather about wanting to be a Met, he could have been one until retirement. Just another greedy deceiver full of hubris and ignorance.
Boras was not his agent when he rejected the deal. Boras is trying to salvage what they can.
🤔🤔🤔🤔 Are you REALLY sure?
When a players uses Boras, he wants a max payout. Pete should fire Boras. If he doesnt accept what the Mets are offering then the Mets should go elsewhere. The problem with that is they failed to signed anyone else forcing them to stick with Pete. There are still a few players the Mets can target.
@ I mean not 100% sure but if i remember correctly turning down the offer was one of the reasons he switched agents. I could be misremembering tho.
@@KingPsy2025 he got Bor-ASS after turning down his extention prior to last seasons debacle of a "WALK" year. Further offers were all Bor-ASS.
HOPEFULLY he learns from HIS mistakes. As did other Bor-ASS clients. Either way.......LGM!
@@richardzucker9985 You contradict yourself lol
Pete made a mistake and I hope that it is not too late for him.
25 mil. x 6 years seems fair to me.
158mil wasn’t good enough for this greedy bum. It’s bad enough the Mets wasted almost a billion on a glorified DH.
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Why do we care what they spend? Owner's rich....if there are better players on the team, that is good, regardless of price...They can spend 5 bil for all I care....keep right on spending. It doesn't really matter in a non salary cap sport. Only matters if the owners are rich.
@@5IveNDlme no point, Yankee troll. They've been pissed for some time now. 🤷♂️🤣
@@mikefagan6840Agree! 🤣🤣🤣
@@5IveNDlme why do we care what they spend? Use your brain Sherlock. Those costs get passed on to the consumer meaning higher ticket costs, food costs and parking fees. A hot dog for $7? A beer for $16. 40-50 just to park your car. Cheapest seats $40. Family of 4 to watch a game minimum of $200.00. Sorry just not worth it to watch a bunch of primadonnas who care more about money then the game. Just a joke.
Let him sign and wath the decline 😂 you go mets!
He doesn’t deserve to be a met!
Mets haven't done nothing all they did was sign soto and Manaea its not enough to beat the phillies or braves
Who was it that played the Dodgers in the NLCS???
@rickvelez4757 remember they had alot of there starters hurt but they are better this year than last year
😂😂😂😂😂😂 KEEP trusting the internet 😂😂😂😂😂
We just beat the braves sending them to San Diego where they were 2 zipped. And we personally whacked the Phillies. They will beat those 2 again.
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Team has no money they gave it all to soto Go yanks 🙌
how did they sign Manea then?
Hahaha they have 21 billion dollars...
More time he will sign for peanuts
It sucks that Cole, Judge, Volpe and Wells will have to keep answering questions about what they were thinking in that 5th inning. And why Judge was smirking while answering questions after the game.
Judge was smiling because he was heading out to a vacation with his attractive wife and $36 million in yearly earnings...Wouldn't that make you smile..??
What does that have to do with anything in this video?
I still think Pete will resign but it’s more likely it will be less years for more $ something like 3 years 90 million
he already was offered 3 years for 90 million 2 weeks ago and he rejected it
@@ricky5954 That was rumor, only. Stearns is nowhere near fool enough to offer the alleged 3/90m with, good god, player opt outs.
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I think he's worth more then a hundred and fifty eight million. He plays all a hundred and sixty two games. I think he can get 2000.000
Hilarious.