2021 Honda Forza 350 Vs 2021 Honda PCX160 -My Big Review.
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My thoughts on owning both 2021 models of the Honda Forza 350 and the 2021 Honda PCX 160 and if your in the market to buy-Which scooter would be the ideal ride for you.
So check out this review on my thoughts on both scooyers-the good and the bad and it may help you steer your way into the best choice of wheels from the popular Honda scooter range of bikes
Just got a 125, first ever ride on a scooter or motorbike, picked it up in central London, UK. Wonderful machine, after ten minutes, I wasn't in total fear of my life in the London traffic, and learned to control the bloody thing. An afternoon later, in an empty car park, and my turning circle has halved. Great fun bike.
Couldn't agree more! great bike to scoot about on. all the best
Do you wish you now got the 300/350?
Hi warro, can't beat having a scooter in the garage, absolutely worth every penny, so practical I've always had one in my garage, use everyday for my commute to work. Really don't know why more people don't have them here in the UK, best thing about them is you don't get wet feet when it's raining and must not forget the storage cability under the seat great for your gear, keep up the good work matey. 😄
well i wouldn't say the scooter idea was a favourite choice of mine until i actually got on one and tried it...lol following that experience i must admit they are far better than i thought so i moved up the the 350 version.
find it has plenty of go and because i live in such hilly country i really require at least one bike which will pull good hills
this scooter does just that and does it very easy plus i like the screen idea too. well worth the 3 month wait to get hold of it and i think i'll do some good long rides on it too
Good review Warro. I have the same bike from April last year, 9000kms on it. I had a 300 forza before that, 40,000kms on that in 20 months. Didn’t miss a beat. Before that2019 pcx which was great bike, but u go out of town, then u need a bit more power. Pcx200 would be ideal. 👍😁
great scooter the 350 and an excellent run of 40,000 klm on the 300 too
I bought the black one in Thailand for around 7,200 AUD (173,500 Thai Baht). I could ride at 120-130 km/h with no trouble. The display is actually 10 km/h too fast compared to Google Map GPS. Regardless of its stiff shock up, It's the best scooter I have.
i too think its avery good scooter but still running it in so have not exceeded 100 kph. did you notice much difference changing the stock shocks in different setting positions
have you thought about a rear shock upgrade plus i've been told different weights in the variator make them move along even better
@@ridewithwarro I have never configured my stock shocks, but I think I should try number 4 for heavier loads because I started to hear some spring noises on deep bumps. I am saving up to get a pair of Ohlins rear shocks which costs around 870 AUD here. I am also going to get the Pirelli Angel Scooter tires for smoothness and durability. A pair would cost 230 AUD including a tire balancing service. It's still too early to ditch the existing ones though. I might delay my purchase a bit.
@@zKonGz how about the yss shocks - a bit cheaper to buy too
@@ridewithwarro Folks from my FB group said they are fine. Anything but the stock shocks will be better.
@@zKonGz thanks for the info
Thanks for the review Warro. I’m going to buy either PCX or Forza in the next month or two and this helped a lot. Thanks again and God Bless 🙏
No problem 👍 i'd buy pcx160 and if not xmax 300
Great review! I enjoyed your honesty and vernacular. I have one on order here in London but have been waiting three months...
thanks. its a great scooter-has a minor vibe issue but another sub mentioned his is fine so mostlikely plastic fit related. apart from that very minor issue its a great scooter to ride with good power.
on the other han i have watch clips were they compain about windscreen rattle - in my case its fine and apart from that worksextremely well
more rides to come and all the best
Very nice choice to compare these two bikes. Not many reviews do that even though they are rather similar. I eventually settled for the pcx160 and for the exact reason you pointed out - i live in a city and hardly do long road trips. Having a fuel economy of 45km/l is also a good thing when fuel prices are so high. The forza would be more attractive if its fuel economy could be closer to a pcx160, especially since some of the newer hybrid cars are achieving fuel efficiencies that are close to the forza’s fuel consumption.
yeah the pcx160 apart from looking good is a nice easy relaxed ride. nice and light too
Great review
I went with the X Max 300 as Yamaha had an unbeatable finance rate of 1.99%.
Love the Forza.
would have liked to try one of those bikes but unfortunately no dealer demos this way.
happy to hear you liked the review
happy scooting!
I had pcx 125. Was brilliant and fun. I now have xmax300 which is much more relaxing to ride. One of, if not the best bike I have ever owned. Motor is smooth at any speed. Only time you feel motor is at idle. I did a trip from UK to the alps on a bmw 1000 and I wish I.d had the max. More comfy and relaxing to ride. At legal speeds anyway. And the transmission is sublime. Engine never feels like it is working hard. The forza will be the same. 👍
yeah i hate to admit it but i do like scooter now...lol not always the case and i think its best to at least try one before one comes to a conclusion.
plus i like the idea of the factory fitted windscreen too.
bike appears to have a bit of power on tap too. hope to get it out on some good long rides.
should be quite enjoyable and probably better too if i pick a better road
Good honest review Warro, interested to hear about the result with the vibration in the front plastics
thanks-glad to hear you enjoyed it and i will tell the local dealer apart the rattle/vibe issue at lower speed and see what happens there.
all the best
The most practical motorcycle I’ve owned.
great ride indeed plus plenty of storage too
That is a great review of a scooter that I had never heard of before. Thanks. It looks like you still have plenty of revs left on the tach at 100 kph. I bet it will top out at 130-140 kph. What sort of brake-in regimen is Honda looking for on the Forza? I love that power windshield, if you want one on a BMW motorcycle you you need to buy a $25K USD RT tourer. It looks like the weather protection in the wet would be pretty good, too. Tracking down that vibration is likely not going to be easy if it is coming from a loose fairing part.
Thanks RH. going on how well it performsat 60 mph/100 kph i'd say it would easily hit the 140 kph top speed not sure how much faster -if at all.
never check the ownersmanual on the run-in but i'd say keep it under 100 kph for the first 1000 klm
windsvreen is great and in high mode offers very good protection from the wind and on the day it was cold and windy.
i let the dealer look into the vibes. it may be plastic or something common on that motor. best of all its not there above that 40/50 kph mark
That was actually a relaxing ride. I enjoyed this video
thanks-happy to hear that. all the best
Seems a good compromise. The 650s and 750 scooters are fast but a lot lot more expensive and a lot heavier. This 350 seems a good compromise. I don't know why scooters are not more popular than motorbikes. On my motorbike, if I want to pick up some food or fish and chips on the way home, I can't do it. You can on this tho.
yeah i think there is some stigma attached to scooters. prior to this i didn't like them much myself...lol
but as the saying goes better try it first prior to commentinguseless info- well i tried and actually like the very smooth approad they deliver.
well worth thinking about if one is in the market for an alternate set of wheels and your right- hard to beat the underseat storage area too
all the best
I wouldn't be happy with that vibe mate - hoping there's an easy fix for you.
Maybe it's just the camera but the suspension looks "crashy" on bumps - I expect that on the smaller scoots but would hope for more sorted suspension up the range.
I have an 18 model PCX 150 and it is a filtering weapon in the inner city.
I also have an 18 model Kymco AK 550 and the engine is a real peach with power on tap at any speed - from off at the lights to crucially, 80-130 for overtaking.
I have toured it from Sydney to Port Douglas with just a top box and a single gym bag strapped to the rear seat.
The only issue I have is not being able to fit a phone holder and some hooks like I have on the 150 for shopping bags :-)
Enjoy your new ride mate!!
i be checking in with the local dealer shortly as i have a 300L arriving soon so i can tell him about the vibe issue encountered.
probably a bit on the crashy side but i've run that same road on many new bikes and some have been pretty bad there..lol saying that later i might do a rear suspension upgrade as over-all its a pretty goo scooter to ride with good power
i actually thought about the AK550 too and even inquire at the closest dealer. only drama the dealer is 110 klm away and i'd have to travel for services so i decided to go more local.
the AK550 i think are very good value too. i think i was quoted under $13 ride away and far cheaper than a Yamaha 560
it appears you have been on some good runs too. i think i can get used to riding a scooter too
Very cool camera angle and ride along. That seems like it would be a smooth and carefree bike. Excellent features in my opinion. Loving the automatic windscreen!
Thanks! 👍appears to be a very smooth ride at legal speed in this area 100 kph or 60 mph. i too appreciate the screen.
once run in i will give it a bust with trction control off. easily accessed by a switch on the left side front on the bars
@@ridewithwarro Cool 😎 👌
Really cool camera angle. Which camera you use and where did you mount it ? This Forza will be my next bike. Upgrade from Honda Click 150i
@@mat9931 gopro 8 with chest mount
Hey mate seems that 350 is a good bike i dont mind the scooters, they are fun to ride, do you still have the interceptor if you do wouldn't mind another video on that when you have the time, still itching to see the ct out in the bush. Cheers mate have a good one and ride safe.
only the bullet and i am sort of running with team RED at the moment. thought it's about time i try other makes. i might go bush with the CT tomorrow and give it a run - plan to hit the bridle track with it shortly so could be interesting
Thanx Mate I’ve got a Forza 350 here in Sydney
Best bike I’ve ever owned
all good -i am actually pretty impressed with the power on tap and how well it runs at speed. have you noticed any vibe or panel rattle up front at say the 40/50 kph mark.
just wondering if its the norm or i may have a lose plastic issue
@@ridewithwarro Went for a ride yesterday after listening to your review and complaints about rattle and vibration
Couldn’t detect any problem thru any of the speed range ?
Maybe something is loose
This is my 17th bike the last being a Yamaha MT09SP and this is the most joyful machine
I just love the convenience of the under seat storage keyless start electric windscreen
Wouldn’t go back to a sports bike
Keep up the great review I appreciate your honest appraisal
@@barryheyder8938 all good. i must have some lose plastic in the front end area.apart from that its a pretty zippy scooter to ride and i plan to take it out later on some good long runs.
like i mentioned good power on tap and i think it will be a great cruiser.
i was on the CT125 today and i certainly noticed not having a windscreen was not too good in the colder conditions.
funny how you try something once and after that realize how handy it really is
all the best and thanks for check out the vibe issues and reporting back to me
@@barryheyder8938 did u drive xmax 300 before u decided to buy forza 350? I am just asking because I am between these two scooters to buy.
Great style Warro.. keep up the great work mate..👍
thanks-tomorrow i might take the CT125 trail out along a back dirt road and see how it actually runs in stock gear. the 13t front sprocket has just arrived too but i will throw a few klm on it first prior to the fitting
Yes, sounds like a plan there bud.. Your channel is totally up my alley.. For the love of motorcycles.. 👍 Hope to test an interceptor next I head past the RE dealer.. Have watched all your clips on them.. have a soft spot for that style of bike..😉
which one do you choose between 2021 Honda 350CC and XMAX 300CC 2021 ??? please let me know your opinion
never got the chance to ride the xmax but i am very impressed with the honda forza 350. it appears to tick all the boxes. good power on tap for a 350cc scooter and can very easilt cruise at 100 kph but more importantly for me - i pulls steep grades.hills with ease.
pretty comfortable to ride and i think the stock suspension is ok-not the best but i've been on far worse bikes
overall a pretty good package and i enjoy the ride.
don't think its a smooth to ride as the PCX160 which was really nice but power beats nice to ride especially when climbing the local terrain.
Great video mate. I was in between pcx160 and forza350. My aim is for pure joy and maybe sometimes ride to work and back about 35km tops. Living in Northern suburbs of Melbourne and roads around have 80km limit mostly. The thing bugging me will I need this power later if I buy pcx . But pcx has lower seat and fuel economy and 3 grand cheaper.
you probably saw my clip when i bought the pcx160 -really nice bike and i think a fair bit smoother to ride than the 350. runs along easy at 80 to 100 kph on flat ground. got to work it harder to pull hills.
i live in a fairly hilly area and the 160 lacked the power to keep me up with traffic and i'd say some hills i dropped a good 20 kph
so i upped the pace to the forza 350.
now the 350 has a great power winscreen and to cruise along at 100 kph or pull a very steep hill at the same speed is very very easy. plus you'd still have 50 kph left in reserve...lol
my thoughts would be if the pcx is tops on your budget buy it and you'll be happy. if yo can go the distance - just to the forza 350- you'll be very happy!
i have or am about to do a good half dozen various ride clips on the firza 350 just waiting for the camera gear.
@@ridewithwarroyeah I've watched pcx video on a snowy day. Will definitely watch your new videos of forza350. Thanks for efforts mate. All the best
@@burakarslan1527 all good
Living where you are with lots of open road 100k zones, I'd spend the extra and get the 350. Living in inner Melbourne burbs, a pcx160 would probably be plenty. Really like that electronically adjustable screen. What's the fuel economy like?
yeah the hills are the killer around here and there are heaps of them...lol today i got a very good idea on how it actually handles them and it does that with ease.
i'd totally agree with what you said as thats how i would call it.
not sure on the economy as of yet but i did set the trip computer when i filled the tank so will let you know as the juice is lowered
@@ridewithwarro Should be good. I was amazed with my CB500F when it was getting 3.4 per 100K. Somewhere to mount the phone/GPS.
@@MrAndrew1953 i believe it has navigation, messaging, hands free voice calls and music, without distractions nor the need to take your eyes off the road.
it has the controls for this function right below that windscreen button-easily viewed on the clip
What's the drive train set up? For mine, a top box to stow my helmet, waterproofs and decent amount of shopping on the way home when you get the call if you want your tea. I have seen a video on a FCX750. For comfort, wind protection and fuel economy, running costs they're hard to beat.
well i dont mind wasting money but to tell you the truth -there is no way i'd pay $20k for a scooter and i looked at the yamaha 560 until i was told its almost $19k
i bet if i bought and sold one of those -the $$$ hit would hurt me something terrible...lol
Thank for the review 👍
happy to help
Hello again, did fathom where and why you had that rattle at 50kmh?
i was out on the bike yesterday doing the clip -5 best features of the forza 350 - when again the rattle came in at 40/60 kph.
i had already tried packing the windscreen surround but no luck. i grabbed the top part plastic above the speedo and pressed hard and the noise went out immediately.
unable to get to the dealer for a least a week due to covid lockdown so i might pull the front plastics myself and work my way into this area and see if there is something loose.
i might be able to fix it myself. if not i can steer the dealer in the right diretion
Next you can upgrader to the 750 which is even more awsome ,i love it and it pulls nearly 200kph.
unfortunately they don't import or sell the 750 here. if so i think it would come in very close to audS20K so it would be a serious price.
i did enquire on the price of the yamaho 560 and it was aud$18500
Are you narrating while driving?
Certainly am! Plus I'm livin' the dream...lol
Greetings Warro may I know what is your height?
5.9
@@ridewithwarro noted may i know your sitting position with leg reaching ground is comfortable for Forza or xmax?
@@Sunset13118 no issues there
@@ridewithwarro noted thanks
I'm buying one, if i can find a dealer who has one.
my big review starting shortly honda forza 350 vs yamaha Xmax 300
"head back to the big city ..... 40,000 people". lol, I'm in a city of 12 million but i will trade you anyday !
well its really not that big. more like 35,000 but i wanted to impress the subs...lol
That vibration noise is horrid.
little bit of a vibe but hopefully will sort that out on the first dealer service. apart from that a great scooter to ride with good wind protection and power on tap.
looking foreward to taking it out and running it quite a bit