IPS vs VA Gaming Monitors - AOC AG275QXN 1440p 165Hz Review
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
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A few weeks ago I tested AOC’s AG275QX, a 1440p 170Hz IPS gaming monitor that, as long as the price is right, is a pretty good shout. So you might be wondering what it’s doing back here on my desk - well this isn’t actually an AG275QX, it’s an AG275QXN. Big deal, I know! The difference here is which panel this uses. Instead of using an IPS panel capable of running at 170Hz, this is actually a VA panel running at 165Hz instead. Seeing as these two are so similar, I thought this would be a good chance to compare side-by-side the differences between the two and talk through why I would buy one over the other.
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IPS vs VA Gaming Monitors - AOC AG275QXN 1440p 165Hz Review
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Why dot mention disgusting blacklight bleed / glow in ALL IPS monitors???
"Backlight" you mean. IPS glow and IPS panel bleeding, due bad contrast inside subpixels.
I notice it on my desktop, but its always diffused when I play games, maybe if I played horror games where the settings are dark all the time I'd notice it more
Panel ips dark
Picture black
Enjoy smearing and ghosting on VA
Also, why not mention that AOC Mini LED Q27G3XMN VA hasn't got smearing problems and also the G7 hasn't got any as well. VA panels are changing by A LOT.
Those response times are still excellent for a va compared to others.
I owned previously an AOC 1440p curved VA panel 144hz and to be honest it was pretty good.
Now on IPS 170hz and I can appreciate the difference, but those VA AOC monitors are good.
Bro the IPS monitor you got is curved?
Bro tell me,i cant decide,75hz ips,or 165hz va panel?
@@robertocarloscruz7840 hey man, the curved I had was VA, not IPS. Nowadays I'm using a flat IPS 170hz panel. I would say you can go for ips better
@@alexg350 So is much better IPS panel? I wanted a Curved 32” 165 hz monitor, but I’ve seen that there is not curved IPs monitors or I haven’t seen.
But idk what would be better 27” IPS 165 hz or 32” curved AV 165hz both 1440 p. I will play in that resolution.
But what is better the immersive experience from curve or the realistic IPs panel? Can you help me pleade
@@robertocarloscruz7840 if you only are gonna play immersive games, curve maybe, but a flat one is gonna be much more versatile, plus the colours on IPS panel are better.
The truth is, most people go for IPS because of hearsay, but in reality, VA is a better monitor nowadays.
I can bet if you put both side by side without knowing which panel they were, 90% will pick VA to be better.
Just think logically, how can the color be better when IPS can’t display black properly? It’s just a thing people say, And people blindly follow.
I got AOC 27G2SE after surveying for a while and has never regretted. Maybe AOC has better VA panel, and I can tell you, GHOSTING is an issue to only 1% of gamer.
Most of you can’t really see the difference, yeah you.
all you have to do is spin from side to side to see its VA lol. Ghosting is a huge issue to most gamers tbh.. just sounds like you're not picky or trying to justify your purchase.
@@DelScully i bet if we do a blind monitor test, you wouldn't be able to tell whether it's a VA or IPS panel
yes i have msi mag271c va 144 srgb 112 very good coler like ips and i well bay aoc 273qx va
i dondt have any proplem with va
@@estford Me too. I came from an IPS panel believing that the ghosting is scary. But while i was using it ,the black being grey really bothers me because it's so apparent in every application. Now that i'm using VA, i can attest that the viewing is so much pleasurable. Movies look awesome, game is immersive, colors just nice. (i noticed IPS may have better blue, or actually blue tint.) And surprise surprise, the ghosting isn't bothering me as much as the grey, and i play FPS all the time.
Thanks a lot for this! Definitely going VA this time after I tried a VA panel and noticed how beautifully crisp the colors were with nice BLACKS, which was not good on my expensive IPS LG monitor I had owned for 3 years. So this time, going VA for sure! Very beautiful picture, I'm excited.
The ips panel version is too expensive, especially considering how bad the contrast is. I ordered a VA panel, I'll see if I like the monitor. If not, I'll just take it back to the store. Gigabyte M27Q X Rev 2.0 has a sub-pixel RGB layout - this is what I would choose from budget 2k monitors
How was it?
Did u bring it back?
RE: The AG275QX peak brightness - That's unusual, and it may be indicative of a faulty panel, as the AG275QX I reviewed peaked at 440 nits with a contrast ratio of 960:1 (in sRGB mode it was capped at 200 nits).
That's because he probably tested that in sRGB mode. Those 200 nits that he got perfectly match 200 nits that are locked in sRGB mode. I guess he didn't test properly and didn't realise the mistake. In original review he was saying that you get 200 nits in SDR mode when in reality it's only in sRGB mode.
is it just impossible to get flat VA panels/monitors tuned for 90%-100% refresh rate compliance at the lower price brackets? samsung supposedly got close with the 1440p G7 but that is a curved panel with horrible QC and tipically 2.5x the price of this :/
IMO VA would be the overall better tech of the two if monitor manufacturers bothered tuning the response times properly, we know fast/quick VAs can be made (G7, G8, G9 and NEO G7 and NEO G9) so idk what is stopping AOC (as an example) from tuning the response times of the AG275QXN accordingly.
I agree with you. What's funny and kind of ironic is that AOC already did tuning response times on a VA once but only on a 27" curved panel. Check out the AOC PD27 review done by techless. I would also like to know if the measurements in this review were done after letting the monitor warm up for at least 30 min at max brightness since VA monitors perform a lot better once warming up. Tweaking black levels and overdrive as well as reducing refresh rate by some extent should additionally help reduce dark level smearing even further.
Nice comparison, did you check with BFI enabled on the VA too?
Hello ! Thanks for the nice review, I liked it a lot ! I am looking for a 27" display and I am hesitating between the AG275QXN you have reviewed, and its grand brother the AG275QZN (240Hz version, still in VA screen). Do you think there is a chance to review to AG275QZN with the same process ?
Please don't use testufo shots not done according to the guidelines. The white dots must form a streight vertical line. The comparison shows much more camera movement problems than ghosting problems.
Would it be possible to measure AGON AG275QZN at 120Hz? Basically every single VA monitor has much less ghosting at 120Hz. With the current results, the 8,33ms refresh window would bump up the refresh rate compliance from 40 to 67%, for those who don't chase super-high frame rates.
Why at 120Hz a panel VA has less ghosting?
@@Micky999 Exactly because of a longer refresh window that gives more time for the color to fully transition into another color.
@@T4ish0 I'm sorry but it's just the other way, with high vertical refresh you got better response time on pixel. Maybe you mean the RTC overshoot.
@@Micky999 With a higher refresh rate you get a faster POSSIBLE response but at the same time, more transitions exceed the refresh window. This results in visible ghosting. That's why there is this "refresh rate compliance" in the test. A high refresh rate is useless if transitions are too slow because then the monitor is showing you half-finished transitions.
Confirm. I have a ViewSonic VX2458-C-MHD monitor and it has much fewer ghosting at 120 hertz than at a maximum of 144 hertz
For gamers who actually play competitive games, go get the AG275QXN. I bought this monitor 2 days ago and I do only play PUBG. It’s absolutely fine for me. The AOC replaces my Iiyama monitor GB2470HSU, IPS and also a refresh rate of 165hz. I‘m pretty sure the VA panel has a faster response time than my old ips monitor. The PUBG feels snappy as it should. The motion handling is good as expected, no annoying black smearing and having on top the ability to watch some HDR content which actually looks good for the money you spend. It costed me 295€
I got a va because the deep blacks r awesome then I got an ips and sold it because I still like the blacks in the va monitor also I watch a lot of movie more than gaming so it's personal preference
Am I correct that the IPS monitor had Black Boost or similar setting beyond the neutral level, that's why the contrast is so absurdly low even for an IPS monitor?
I just purchased the AG275QXN too pair with the new Xbox S 1TB. It ticks all the boxes for my need's so I'm hoping it will be great. Looking forward too play Starfield 👍
Please update me when you get it.
But what about the horrors of IPS glow?
And backlight bleed.
Thank you for the test. Was very helpful.
In general and especially budget monitors IPS is much faster but i much prefer more expensive VA panels to ips even thouhg still slower , for me its enough with sooo much better contrast ratio which to me is more important than being bit faster. But now im wondering should i buy higher end VA or go all out on OLED to not only get amazing contrast but also best in class response times...
OLED "monitors" are often just rebadged TV's
Oled is awesome my dad has un oled tv but it is so pricey plus burning 😭😭
Please can you do a Review for AG275QZN monitor? its 240Hz and I'm thinking which one to get do they have any difference in ghosting and deep blacks? Thank you
Just saw LTT using OSRTT in their Corsair Flex OLED review, so that's pretty cool
I definitely don't play competitive games. But also I am currently on a 60Hz TV and I don't have any experience with a higher end monitor. At some point I hope to upgrade but I'd like to try a few options first.
Then go with LG GP850 IPS monitor.
Hello Which of the two types is more colorful and contrasty?
Can you give examples of those typical 4000:1+ contrast VA?
I have BenQ GW2450HM (2012) that’s advertised for 5000:1 but I doubt it would stand after measuring.
But still I’m searching for nice 27” VA
one of the samsungs measured legit 5000, odyssey g8 I think
@@doltBmB is that typical or exception?
@@amidk75 exception pretty sure
Lenovo G27q-30...qhd 165hz va panel...is a better choice.
@@Wonderful-life1234but it have 1000:1 contrast ratio not “typical” 4000:1
I’ve bought AOC Agon AG275QXN with 3000:1 contrast and FastVA panel
In your opinion, for those who are passionate about RTS or management such as cities skylines, which monitor is more suitable? I don't play FPS in competitive mode.
I recently bought a AOC VA monitor. No way these things are ok for gaming. The black blur is just horrible. Also thin highlights continuously shimmer and are horribly distracting. Returned within a week of headaches. Manufacturers calling these gaming monitors are lying. Adverstising 1ms response is highly misleading. These companies need to be prosecuted for false advertising.
thanks! i'm deciding right now what should i buy - VA or IPS aoc, and that's exactly what i need to know from gaming perspective. guess i'll stick with IPS
@@Antonywhitewow As a general rule, get the fastest panel you can get example: 165Hz or 240Hz. Not that you might run games at these super high frame rates but, the pixel response is much more likely to be faster with higher refresh rate monitors which means much less ghosting. Look for GTG (Grey to Grey)response time which is the most relevant. The lower this value, the better.
Model?
IPS is only better if you actually want to use the high refresh rate & need the extra clarity
For General Stuff: Movies, RUclips, Gaming (single player) Lower Refresh Rate
The VA wins every time
Low Contrast should be a thing of the past
This is annoying for me because i normally play single player open world games but i also dont want that smudging.
its fine comparison but you compare different reponse tables which makes no sense to me
I'm getting a little bit desperate about founding a proper calibration profile for my ag275qxn, since this is one of the best videos about it I hope someone could give me some advice 🙏🙏🙏
can u test for me for black smearing in ufo test? im pretty sure it has some right?
Instead of comparing ag275qxn to another VA monitors you compared to IPS, complaining it is not as fast as IPS... Make sens...
The AOC writes that both monitors have 1 ms GtG
Should I get VA or IPS for 1080p HDR 144hz gaming? If so which one if I have a max budget of £300? It would be great if it also has good colour accuracy because I will be doing some graphic design.
Buy IPS. Everything media related just get a good oled tv or an inexpensive miniled tv.
i love va
va made progress since this video, checkout the phillips 240hz va panel, its ridicilously fast for a VA
mmm beer ... oh S...
Choose ips
LG GP850
VA panel monitors should be banned until SSVA (SuperSpeed VA) panels hit the market.
- Even that mediocre IPS panel is fast, really FAST than any VA right now !
I have LG GP 850
and that's why i stay away from VA until tech improves. I LOVE the black levels and static image quality, but had to return the VA monitor because it was just too slow and smeary.