Why Bachira vs Chigiri isn't Close
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2024
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0:00 Intro
0:40 Bachira
4:58 Chigiri
11:00 How it would go
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we got a death battle but it shows you are first
Someone should TM the word "first" at this point.
it’s crazy that bachira’s jumping stat isn’t good when he almost decapitated kira with a midair kick
That was the best jumping feat lmao
I do taekwondo and kickboxing as well as football and trust me, the kicks barely overlap. I can kick up to around 195 cm but I can't do a bicycle kick to save my life
@@splebee yeah, it seems like it would take an entirely different sort of aim. If you do, say, a roundhouse kick on a football, it's not gonna go where you want it to without some incredible timing and precision that id argue even most pros don't have
@@splebee i see what you mean. What i mean to call attention to is the jump height. bachira literally got his foot to kira’s head with a horizontal leg angle. he didn’t need to kick up AT ALL. if i’m recalling the scene right, that’s a great vertical
You mean the guy who got dropped out of the first episode.😂😂😂
I really wished we could see his reaction to isagi leading Japan in the world cup.
Imagine in the World Cup arc, It’s blue lock with 2 and (insert team) with 3, Chigiri scores and ties the game, but as soon has he scores and his feet touch the ground his leg twists just like it did before.
bro no way mfs still prayin on chigiris downfall in 2023
That sounds like it could happen. Maybe it could happen in his left leg this time to show that his "weak leg" wasn't the one he should've been super worried about, but instead, taking care of his entire body just like he learned from Prince?
@@adamok3811 What if, in light of some of his recent losses, he takes his training TOO far, especially before a game? Being worried that he's falling behind in light of recent losses, he very well could try to push himself to the maximum on the training he's doing!
Considering what happened in the U-20 match, he could be extra self conscious about it before the next big game, and ends up gaining a small injury that he attempts to ignore on some "It isn't that bad. These legs were made for running, I'll can still play!" Type thing, Only for it to turn into something much bigger during the game?
Bro hates Chigiri
@@Xen579 I love chigiri but this would be a crazy plot twist😭🙏
Prince is the most underrated master in NEL
With the way you described the concept of Ginga dribbling, it sounds like it would be something akin to Lorenzo's Zombie Dribbling style. Im not sure if im bugging with that connection, but it just seems similar.
he actually has a better version, as his upper body is a decoy, if Lorenzo trains under Lavi and gets some patterns and creativity enhancement he would be broken
@@ACE_Lock That makes sense,thank you for the confirmation I'm not crazy! Lol
For the point about the rnakings of NEL its more accurate to say that Bachira is what the team is built around like Rin in PXG where as Chigiri is a supporter to a Nagi certered team
that's what i meant bro
I don't know if you've mentioned this but I've been going through the manga again and i noticed another of Chigiri's potent sub-weapons that either gets overlooked or doesnt get mentioned as much. That's his "double acceleration".
Amongst the faster players in BL (Yuki, Kurona, Zantetsu, Shidou, Kaiser etc), it seems Chigiri is the only player (outside of Loki) who understands the various ways to use their speed.
I'm sure we've seen him do it a thousand times (from the 1st Selection vs Team W, to the 2nd Selection vs Nagi, the u20 match vs Aiku, and in the BM match vs Isagi, Kunigami, Kurona and Menser) but that "double acceleration" where he kicks into another gear is very hard to defend against. It gets the opponent to lower his guard (when they think they can keep up with/ have covered his angles) and, by shifting the opponent's centre of gravity/equilibrium with the 2nd burst of pace, creates a lot of space behind the opponent. It has an almost similar effect to Nagi's "honey trap" which uses one's momentum against them.
ABOVE ALL, added to his crazy agility (just look at his goals pre-44° Panther Snipe, especially the 2nd Selection goal where he squeezed past Aryu and Rin), that double acceleration (which he uses in his mach cut-ins) helps him pre-plan moves, just like Loki. Remember how Loki's "At this distance, I see nothing but weak spots" before he razed Rin's team in the 2nd Selection? It seems he had already visualised an attacking route in his mind that he could get to before anyone else, and when Rin thought he'd seen through Loki (lowering his guard against a possible 2nd acceleration), Loki used Rin's foresight (and resultant lowered guard) against him with a 2nd burst of acceleration. Chigiri did the same thing against Isagi and co (he already has the 44° formula pre-planned in his head) in the entire move to his goal.
It took two of the fastest BL players, Yuki and Kaiser (and one of them had to be both fast and a Meta-Vision user), to stop him from getting another Panther Snipe goal. And Kaiser had to do it by attacking Chigiri's shooting motion (a 0.02 second gap). The only other person who could stop the Panther Snipe in my opinion, would be Aiku. No wonder he scored against PXG despite the entire team being trash (and if you consider that PXG has crazy Rin [who's got Meta-Vision and upgraded physical specs], Shidou the athletic demon and Karasu the super-analyst, it's even more fascinating that he scored).
Amongst all golden zone users, I'd say Chigiri has the most potent formula. Barou's formula (by itself) can be stopped if you realize who the target of the final pass is. Barou's undying ego and seemingly infinite irrationality are what make the formula potent. Zantetsu just looks like he hasn't gotten a grip on how dangerous he is as a player so yeah.
one thing i want to say about comparing isagi dribbling chigiri to asses how he's not able to stop bachira: when you play against isagi you don't think he'll dribble you since that's not what isagi is about. but that is what bachira is all about. i think chigiri's aproach against isagi would be how to stop him controlling the field, with special attention to his off the ball movement and underatanding of field of vision, and it's understandable getting beat by something he didn't account for. . while vs bachira the approach will be to stop his dribblings and passes, which will make them less effective(not useless). it just means chigiri wins even harder
fair point lmao, Chigiri got so shook by that, however this is a common occurrence with Chigiri lamo, from Rin to Bachira to even Zantetsu they all isagied him
@@ACE_Lock yeah good point.
you didn't mention bachira being able to hold off kunigami strength wise
Bachira takes it in core strength easily. Ginga is proof of that
A+ for Chigiri. If this were FIFA, with the addition of .44 Panther + Chris Prince’s guidance he’s improved his stamina, work rate, concentration, creativity, flair, positioning. Still the same player, but efficient & deadlier.
He showed progress with his marking vs BM, and showed progress with his tackling vs Ubers. as well as be his evolution into an inverted wide forward. He has an out-to-in game, preferring to outpace the defense entirely rather than win a 1v1 duel out wide.
This is big bc he’s able to play a full 90mins getting up and down the flank, he’s found a way to dribble on the move and improved his lateral game. He’s shown deeper immersion in the game, being able to predict or time things better than before.
Critique-wise he could pack on more muscle, once you get hands on him you can throw him off since he’s a speed-oriented dribbler. His hold play isn’t at the level of Karasu. He needs to improve his range since 19m is only edging the box, where it’s bound to be a lot of traffic given his solo play. If he had different types of shots, or was able to contribute with his back to the goal we’d be looking at a very complete, easily world-class finisher.
idk why but the writer always forgets about him,, maybe he is saving him for something big but we gotta wait
@@ACE_Lock he started off with a genius weapon and some pretty huge flaws. He found a makeshift technique to get around Zantetsu but polished it into a respectable dribble. I think he’s still over reliant on speed, or just very one track minded with how to use it and play football in general.
It’s like Mbappe, he’s skilled but he doesn’t show the deep-lying prowess of Messi or the technique of Christiano. But bc he’s still really good at a really quick pace, it makes Ligue 1 practice for him and defend PSG certain ways. Chigiri should watch Benzema
Great video as always💪. May I just add a couple of my personal observations based on my opinion that Bachira is possibly the most underrated player in the series and is definitely better than Chigiri.
#1. I'm willing to die on the mountain that claims only Lavinho is a better dribbler than Bachira. The other dribblers have highly specialised and situational dribbling (Sae's dribbling is passive/reactive [observing before dribbling], Yukimiya's and Chigiri's dribbling mostly works out wide since that's the most likely place to do 1v1s and use extreme bursts of speed), but since Bachira's dribbling (like Lavinho's) is very reliant on improvisation and imagination, I'd say he's the 2nd best at taking people by surprise.
Adding to the above point, his freestyle chemical reactions are so random that high IQ players like Isagi rarely see it coming. Unlike Chigiri, Yukimiya and Sae, whose dribbles are more structured/pre-planned, his instinctive imagination is so insane that it's "virtually impossible to take the ball off him once he starts running with it" (according to Isagi). Strength, speed, numbers are more or less ineffective against Bachira as he always manages to surprise opponents.
Adding to his dribbling, he's a very good passer, which makes him even more of a threat. His monster ego allowed him to see both more pass courses and didn’t allow him to make weak plays. More so, after overcoming and evolving his monster, it seems he's now able to increase his options from both a strategic and improvisational perspective, something that all the other dribbblers rarely do.
#2. Chigiri is still fading in games, like you pointed out. His performances drop down a notch come 2nd phase of games. I think that's because, as it stands, you can't improve your stamina substantially in just 20 days. Endurance is something you continue working on. It's a huge weakness to have if you're speedster (especially one that also helps out in defence) because the more you sprint, the higher your exhaustion builds up, which makes his speed a double-edged sword. With time I'm sure he can improve that though
agreed! I posted a similar take from a different perspective. Since I'm here I'll ask, who would you prefer? Between Zantetsu and Yukimiya as either wingers or WBs
@noa4038 Yukimiya easily. Zantetsu is like a cross between Nagi without the genius improvisation and Barou without the obsessive domineering ego. Man's got all the necessary weapons to make him the deadliest wide forward in Blue Lock, but he has neither the brains to use them nor the ego to discover himself
@@tanatswamakara4700 ah, all my worst fears made obvious. lmao. See, I’m really high on Zanny. His height, ability to play both flanks, and iirc his golden zone has more range than Chigiri. His crosses are better than Yuki’s too, which is my main gripe. Yuki seems to be a secondary reaction player, and he gets fooled easily. Idk if Zantetsu’s IQ challenges are in-game.
His absolute weapon being acceleration really takes the cake for me. That’s so valuable on defense like with Teppei, his lightning fast reaction time being able to counter Yuki 1v1. With the reveal of Mark Snuffy’s strong core and CQC ninjutsu helping him keep possession, I think Zantetsu’s ability kit makes him a great dribbler and a ball thief on defense. If I need a player to guard open space counters or 1-2 with my CM/Wingers then it’s gotta be Zantetsu right? Or am I off? lol
I feel like Chigiri is the perfect embodiment of who I want to be in the future
ness victim tho...
Another banger 🔥
To your point I'll add is that Bachira's bid is ~25% higher not only bc he's carrying, but he's carrying with *dribbling.* I think we can agree at the pro level, world-class dribbling is more valuable to a team than world-class speed is, since every team plays at a different pace, and with his dribbling comes crosses. Compared to Chigiri's solo play, Bachira drawing the defense in and crossing to another forward or destroying their formation down the middle is closer to a traditional winger/cam role. Usain Bolt's football career never did pan out 😔
Neither are easy to stop on the attack, as Bachira can waltz right to the goalline and hit a robona. Chigiri can of course zip through; his off-ball runs and tunnel vision could make him vulnerable to off-side traps though. Both players are capable playing on either flank, as we saw Bachira hit a left-footed cross in the U20 match. Other than that, great vid!
Actually Chigiri is more valuable, the fact that he can steal goals on his own even in a team of stars is insane for a strikker
@@ACE_Lock eh, that's more Isagi's argument. By week three, NEL bids are the most accurate representation of the way the author and clubs view each player's skillset and weapons. Chigiri and Kunigami both rank slightly higher than current Nagi.
The next highest value on FC Barcha, Otoya is much lower than the next highest value for Manshine City, proving that Bachira's work rate and production outclass. He's simply doing more with less; and he scored vs Ubers.
@@noaworldTMi think he just has a higher bid because he has more goals and they said at the beginning at nel rankings would be heavily determined by goals
@@kotaar8535 it’s a combo of factors! Rin’s 1st game he had two goals, but a ¥36m value. Nagi had one goal, but hit ¥88m. Barou had two goals but increased only ¥30m, compared to his ¥100m hat trick. Aryu’s on defense exclusively, but his value is nearly as high as the 2nd highest bid for PxG.
So yea. Bids requires some nuance.
Ya chigiri just a more complete player at this point. Bachira needs a weapon to support his dribbling. Like his dribbling is strong asf but its pretty much all he has while chigiri has his main weapon in speed, really good dribbling, and a golden zone for scoring. Cant really think of a good support weapon for bachira tho without making him too strong, like imagine him with metavision lol
Bachira with mv = Sae
@@ACE_Lockyeah but he plays on instinct
@@ACE_Locklol
It is close, but chigiri does take it
we only really seen chigiri use dribbling to utilize his speed and pace. so knowing that why would that be considered a 93 dribbling… that’s 2 less then barchira and we’ve seen bachira do wild things
Bachira 100% went up after the first game, but for Chigiri, the fact the he was slicing through many defenders multiple times easily and needed Yuki and Kaiser to come from the opposite direction just to halt him really grants him the 93
@@ACE_Lockhave we ever seen chigir do an elastico or rainbow flick? I thought all he did was cut inside
@@ACE_Lock i understand that but the ability to use his speed to cut in makes his dribbling ability that high? thats what i’m not getting since i feel like it’s more of a speed feat than dribbling
Otoya and Bachira carrying the whole FC Barcha😭
Hmmm bachira vs chigiri let's look at some stats/strengths
To see who's better
I'll start whith chigiri I'll also go over bachira (look at my own reply to this comment)
Chigiri is 16 and is 5 foot 9 -177 cm in height
Let's look at what his better at
Speed Endurance Stamina Strength Acceleration Physicality Sprinting
=Those go to him because one his obviously faster but another thing is chigiri can maintain extremely high speeds for good period of time and he even got stronger/faster/got a better physic because of training at man city a team that prioritizes physicallity/strength speed over any thing.
Next we have Positioning, field IQ playmaking , Applying pressure,counter attacking, defense, Balance (of attributes
Chance creation, Passing ,
Space usage, mobility
=I'd say thses also go to chigiri
So next up is bachira
Now let's look at bachira his surprisingly not that short his only 5,9- 176 cm only one cm shorter
What is he better in
Skills, Technique , Dribbling,
Body feints , Turnings , Flow state, Ego , Instincts, Agility,
Reflexes, Goal scoring, shot power,Tricks, Offense, Attacking,Body balance,body control,Ball Control, 1v1s , Beating Opponents
Passing-high speed ground pass. No Look pass. Long range back spin pass Quick Cross. Heel lift pass bee shot
Skills x Flow state x Technique
Dribbling ...=
Chops,Nutmegs,Robona,
Midair Elastico Double Touch feint Aerial Rush turn. Monstrance , Monster x Ginga
Trick break hyper speed Scissors Mid air Elastico
Elastic Dribbling Egotistical
Style Marseille Turn
Woooooooooooo god damn that's a ridiculous amount of skills/Attributes for bachira
Whoooooo that took allot of time to write all that but for the final conclusion
Who's the winner? It's bcahira But High diff - extremely high
Diff and this is further backed up by their Rankings in chapter 240 In the new Rankings bachira was number 4 and chigiri was 5 tied whith kinigami and also bachira has more goals scored in the show
Japan U20 match and for their new Clubs more expensive . So yeah
The winner is bachira but it's a little bit close. For now
Tbh they really close i think the biggest difference for me is playmaking bachira is one of the better passers in blue lock
as a striker tho, chigiri is far more threatening
again a nice viedeo best blue lock matchups
thank u bro, glad u enjoying them
Good video, keep up the good work.
can you do next Yuki Vs Reo
The battle of the 9th spot, boy i love it, i will after i finish some the ideas in my head
W vid also first
we got a death battle but it shows in analytics you are second
next video bro
Bachira >
Dribble
Physical
Creativity
Vision
Pass
Chigiri>
Speed
Defense
For the one who has the advantage offensively well I will go for bachira
Chigiri and its zone 44 is not bad but at one point it is too predictable
We saw it against the BM just now bachira offers so many possibilities
Chigiri's physicality is better than Bachira's, on offense Chigiri has better numbers and had a better showing, isagi with MV said he couldn't stop him and they needed Kaiser X Yuki to do so
while ness stopped Bachira after seeing his dribbles
yea out of each golden zone, Chigiri's @ 19m requires him to be just outside the penalty area. It's about the same effective scoring range as Bachira's, idk why people think it's a long range shot. Chigiri would need to either shoot further away for less reliability, or move further into traffic and risk being contested.
@ethanturborace9147 the angle makes it 44 degrees left, so like Prince said Chigiri now has to live on the left.
Bachira is 100% guaranteed to score in front of the goalline, as well as any competent player. We not finna take 3m shots away from ppl bro. Lol
@ethanturborace9147
well no if that were the case Chigiri would be the best player in BL. if you think that speed makes you the best player in the world it's clear that you don't know much about Football Messi Pelé Maradona are the 3 best players in history by number yet they are not even in a top 10 of the fastest players. Henry Kane/Halland are clearly the 2 best 9s in the world today, however they are not among the fastest players.
@@ACE_Lock isagi has never said that I can't stop Chigiri with the MV
Isagi has literally cooked him in the final action of the match
And you have really forgotten that Chigiri was stop too many time by kaiser,kuruna, Yukimiya
Hey ACE_lock can you please do oliver aiku vs reo mikage or chris prince vs levinho after micheal kaiser vs itoshi sae
Love your videos
6:47 Flashy Flash vs Chigiri really isn't close.
Was waiting for your comment on that my friend
In terms of cutting off passes it depends on whos passing otoya vs reo otoyas off ball movement and connection with bachira i doubt chigiri would be able to intercept as easily. Then you have the other ninja and the fc barcha players. But against with a base line team no one special chigiri would intercept but for there nel teams otoya is incredible a safe option to secure the pass goes through.
Otoya isn't better than Ness in passing and Chigiri cut it no issue
Please do more match ups please 🙏
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the next one is gonna be a banger Sae vs Kaiser so stay tuned
Holy glaze
Next vid why isnt close isnt even close to is close
Nice video, but I disagree. It’s like comparing who was better between Ribery and Robben but in the end it’s best when they are playing together and complimenting one another.
I’d still take Bachira though as he can do more on his own, while also being a better playmaker.
Lowkey tho. Just adding to video ideas. How about raichi vs tokimitsu
that's a good idea ngl
W vid 3rd
Why isnt reo vs isagi close
in due time bro
Isagi vs nagi pls
Isagi slams rn badly imo
Nagi a bum this aint a debate
i already covered both in two separate videos, and as it stands now Nagi loses however after the Ubers vs Man shine if Nagi awakens i will do it 100% as well as an updated Barou match up vs some one (will do a vote)
@@ACE_Lock k thank you you and clamp are my favorite blue lock content creator I love your videos keep it up
@@ACE_Lockbro is not doing good
You should do barou shueei vs rensuke kunigami
i will, but since i covered them recently u gonna have to wait a little as i have few bangers in mind
@@ACE_Lock that's good
@@ACE_Lockyou can also do Leonardo Luna vs pablo cavasos or reo mikage vs oliver aiku
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Fun fact, Loki Is U20...
No, he is 17 but a pro and not a U20
he plays for PXG and France +20 even tho he young
@@ACE_Lock U20 by definition means Under 20, so he may not be in the league, but he is under 20.
Lol sanji vs zoro in another universe
Writing before watching this video Bachira>Chigiri mid diff
Bachira wins imo
la pantera rosa
Chigiri takes speed, physicality, stamina and edurance we could say its on par with bachira
Lets be real he's a speed star i get it,
During the U20 match bachira played full chigiri played half
Till now you cant possibly say chigiri now has endurance than him, he has always been playing full match with isagi since day 1.
Bachira takes creativity, balance, shot power, Dribbling, reaction time, flexibility, positioning, play making, passing, ego goes to bachira as well i heard you say ego goes to chigiri, why would you say such a thing ?
Field IQ i could say its on par
You could say over all better player is chigiri
But a better striker is bachira, if there's no space for chigiri to run in box 18 hows he gonna do it ? Plus he have a zone 44 something which should be obvious to every goal keeper by now
Bachira is flexible he can literally cut within the box if you know what I mean
Plus chigiri is only temporary in that postion he's in rn, i mean if reo scored a goal he would have been the face of MANSHINE CITY ....you could even compare him to reo, Nagi will have a monstrous awakening, probably he'll become one creative monster, he may not be needing passes to do stuffs again
To me honestly Bachira vs chigiri is close but nahhh
Bachira solos
But I guess chigiris flow will he something else
Bro as a pure striker both Isagi and Kaiser treated Chigiri as far more threatening, in positioning Bachira is actually shit, i mean Chigiri is too but his speed gives him more points there, creativity goes in his dribbling and even still Chigiri has 93 at dribbling no matter how you look at it Chigiri slaps
as for his position being temporary, i doubt it,
no one is better at that
@@ACE_Lock isagi and kaiser saw chigiri as a threat oh well it all boils down to his speed isn't it? Kaiser isn't even used to chigiri, it's the first time they played isn't ? Lol chill dude, wait for the second time and see if kaiser or isagi will not out read chigiri bro and out reading won't deal with them catching up to him, I mean where his passes would land and his zone is obvious, now everyone knows, now that isagi knows its almost over for him his shot will get blocked like its a temporary thing, bachira on the other hand how on earth would you predict him ? Someone who takes you by surprise i mean he's evolved now so is chigiri ....
In positioning you can't even say bachira is shit, play making also deals with positioning as well.
Even bachira passes are better by quite a length. 80 to 88 is something tho .....
Bachira is a better play maker than chigiri we all know that, his positioning isn't obvious but since the season 1 he played side by side with isagi we all know dude he's better at positioning than chigiri by far !
I love chigiri but no way in hell you gon disrespect bachira like that, play making also have to do with creativity, bachira is more creative than chigiri
Oh boy please! We know bachira isn't doing much rn ....no much screen time, nothing to show .... even his team he has only otoya ...argh please this shouldn't even be an argument
Chigiri is an overall better player, bachira is a better striker
Its the same case with chigiri vs isagi, chigiri is an overall better played but you won't dare to compare who is a better striker
Its not close bachira easily destroys he hasnt won any match and still in top 4 every ranking in nel
Nagi vs bachira
Will do in due time since i did both recently
Bachira slams
batchira slams ngl
nahh fam
Kunigami >>> both