The PERFECT Sushang 0-Cycle (E6S0) | MOC 2.2.1 F12-2 | No Limited Eidolons

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  • Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
  • #honkaistarrail #memoryofchaos #robin
    Vid describing my original Sushang Robin rotation: • How Robin Greatly Impr...
    Full 0-Cycle with this but using Seele LC: • How It's Done - Full 0...
    This video took a lot longer than I expected to make, and ended up including probably too much info. But here's all the things I thought about in making the run.
    0:00 Overview
    0:26 Wave 2 Planning | Countering Kafka
    2:01 Unlimited Sushang Ults
    3:22 Wave 1 Planning | Optimizing Sushang Rotation
    4:34 Optimizing Robin Damage
    5:07 Optimizing Ruan Mei Ult
    6:52 Run - Wave 1
    8:14 Run - Wave 2
    9:55 Builds
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Комментарии • 84

  • @vitorjjgameplays5786
    @vitorjjgameplays5786 2 месяца назад +149

    Sushang would definitely sleep through the explanation of her own 0-cycle strategy.

  • @xelonyara
    @xelonyara 2 месяца назад +122

    Was here to watch funny "phoenix".
    Got bachelors in math instead.

    • @Inuyashaya8
      @Inuyashaya8 2 месяца назад

      hahahaha yeah was thinking so

  • @yesntpittzant4156
    @yesntpittzant4156 2 месяца назад +20

    I was not ready for a whole ass lecture on AV optimization

  • @ElangTitoPersada
    @ElangTitoPersada 2 месяца назад +38

    I just run from my math homework to watch some funny gameplay. Then the world just say "nu-uh, you gonna do math today"

  • @NazRan-si8xq
    @NazRan-si8xq 2 месяца назад +32

    The problem is.. My Robin is little dragon with bottle of water

  • @nyomanmaulana9681
    @nyomanmaulana9681 2 месяца назад +23

    this is the most awesome and comprehensive guide for honkai star rail ever created

  • @Hnp21
    @Hnp21 2 месяца назад +7

    As always, love the breakdown. Not many ppl can appreciate the planning behind a 0c.

  • @TenchiSawada
    @TenchiSawada 2 месяца назад +3

    Excellent guide looking forward to more XD

  • @ikatsuwu
    @ikatsuwu 2 месяца назад +2

    Nice work as usual 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻♥️ that SUShang team is seggs 💥

  • @cloudy978
    @cloudy978 Месяц назад +1

    I'm really loving those vids and breakdowns makes me learn a lot.and Sushang is one of the few 4 star dps I really like playng. she is usually my second choice for dps behind clara. ( i prefer using her over my Seele lmao) Definetely subbing :3

  • @Thelongquiet
    @Thelongquiet 2 месяца назад

    Loved the strategy analysis!

  • @ryusorata
    @ryusorata Месяц назад

    Bro this is absolute cinema! Really impressive stuff.

  • @Hxrizontal
    @Hxrizontal 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for the lecture on optimizations

  • @milka6828
    @milka6828 2 месяца назад

    Now I kinda miss playing her. Great run!

  • @flybreak7808
    @flybreak7808 2 месяца назад +14

    Holy math

  • @CherylDGoldie
    @CherylDGoldie 2 месяца назад

    Very great built Tingyun 😅

  • @user-vc8sv4oz6e
    @user-vc8sv4oz6e 2 месяца назад

    0라클 빌드를 이렇게 세심하게 짜는 걸 줄 몰랐는데 잘봤어요.

  • @ryogaz1210
    @ryogaz1210 2 месяца назад

    Bro is probably a researcher at NASA

  • @boysscoutcamps
    @boysscoutcamps 2 месяца назад

    This is a “calculated”. Everything was calculated, genius.

  • @Arvl.
    @Arvl. 2 месяца назад +1

    Holy damage

  • @eybiecie6268
    @eybiecie6268 2 месяца назад

    amazing

  • @wandersonvitor3054
    @wandersonvitor3054 2 месяца назад

    Damm, that 50k ST damage of Tingyun...

  • @dominica5855
    @dominica5855 2 месяца назад +4

    You really convince me to believe sushang is litterally best 4* dps right now with Robin and ur set up. Outside of this MoC and you just have to reducr ur ult from 4->3 and use 1 tingyun ult on Robin and everything still perfectly fine 😊

    • @luckyjc8702
      @luckyjc8702 2 месяца назад

      QQ beats her if you keep retrying for near perfect Autarky (the e4) RNG on every turn.
      But yeah, Sushang is good, has never been bad.
      Even full BE build/hybrid Sus with HMC on f2p team is pretty strong for comfy 2-3 cycles clear.

    • @ScaryYokai
      @ScaryYokai 2 месяца назад

      There's some super break teams also possible with her and Harmony MC because of her high toughness bar damage.

    • @EiDehGaming
      @EiDehGaming  2 месяца назад +4

      I would say that talking about QQ's RNG as part of her damage ceiling is a rather moot point. RNG is part of the power budget in 0 cycle runs, because I could just as well run lesser crit rate for more crit damage on other characters whose skillset is not quite as RNG dependent as an example. Nothing against her, but just a small pet peeve of mine regarding RNG when talking about character's power ceilings.

  • @user-oz5lr9dw4t
    @user-oz5lr9dw4t 2 месяца назад +10

    What the actual fuck? Хорошая работа 👍

    • @faceuchiha114
      @faceuchiha114 2 месяца назад

      Why not in a trench? Z-orc ☠️

  • @TenchiSawada
    @TenchiSawada 2 месяца назад +6

    XD ruan mei in every team comp. Makes me regret skipping 😢

    • @thatalbeeguy
      @thatalbeeguy 2 месяца назад +5

      why on god's green earth would you skip ruan mei

    • @idealandthereal8090
      @idealandthereal8090 2 месяца назад +1

      If leaks are right she should be back very soon

    • @TenchiSawada
      @TenchiSawada 2 месяца назад

      ​@thatalbeeguy i really wanted her because i liked her design. But also wanted ratio because i like fua gameplay a lot. Clara got me hooked. Even still i skipped ruan mei and regretted it :/.
      Didnt make that mistake with robin.
      Will probably be the first character i really go after in a rerun. I just hope i dont have to spend too many jades XD

    • @ScaryYokai
      @ScaryYokai 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@TenchiSawadaRatio was given free though

    • @aquarian3046
      @aquarian3046 2 месяца назад +1

      @@thatalbeeguy Because she is a horrible person?

  • @luisgabriel01
    @luisgabriel01 2 месяца назад +1

    holy

  • @FF999VGMP
    @FF999VGMP 2 месяца назад +5

    You're really convincing me to build sushang. Is it better to use the hunt herta shop lc or final victor on her?

    • @glopazoid
      @glopazoid 2 месяца назад +1

      herta shop looks better bc sushang is an action advance, unlike seele who does bonus actions (extends final victor's buff)

    • @Helperishere
      @Helperishere 2 месяца назад

      If you plan on doing crit Sushang then Herta LC is better. Final Victor is good on Seele and Topaz and that's pretty much it right now. I actually have s5 Final Victor and use it quite often over my s5 Swordplay for my Topaz.
      Also note that your dmg will be lower if you don't have Ruan Mei and Robin. The combo adds alot of dmg which is super super nice for Someone like Sushang who can abuse Robin's joint attack

  • @AHAB-conscious
    @AHAB-conscious 2 месяца назад +4

    Have you ever considered using the enka caracther "thing that show stats" (sorry i don't know the word in English)

    • @nguyennhan4595
      @nguyennhan4595 2 месяца назад

      Its "character" your "h" was messing around, close to that tho

    • @EiDehGaming
      @EiDehGaming  2 месяца назад

      I have actually, but there are a few reasons I don't. It's quite annoying to swap in my lineup into my currently displayed characters and wait for the servers to update to get the build cards. Also there's the point of legitimacy I guess, that these builds are actually the equipment that I used for the run. But I'll consider it. I am aware that it's much easier to view builds via cards.

    • @ryogaz1210
      @ryogaz1210 2 месяца назад

      ​@@EiDehGamingyou can manually log out of the game instead of closing it to make enka updates in less than 10 seconds

  • @BelialRus
    @BelialRus 2 месяца назад

    Accidently got here after misspelling a google request "cooking math", now im a gacha addict

  • @NikoPikoo
    @NikoPikoo 2 месяца назад

    Where did you get those formulas?

  • @2bla-rx2ir
    @2bla-rx2ir 2 месяца назад

    Hi, It is possible to get 0 cycle Sushang→Ratio ?
    I'm having trouble because my pela was taken in the first half. Sorry for my poor English

    • @danielak1666
      @danielak1666 2 месяца назад +1

      Ratio needs 3 debuffs though and no one in that team could provide that. So, kinda no

    • @EiDehGaming
      @EiDehGaming  2 месяца назад +1

      Not with this setup. Not enough debuffs as the other person mentioned. I guess technically maybe? If you land your slow, RM ult and you succeed the first 80% for Ratio to land his own trace debuff. I haven't looked much into it

  • @ZenFattyCat.4869
    @ZenFattyCat.4869 2 месяца назад

    Chắc mùa này đay là setup rẻ max ping rùi nhỉ. Thật sự không nghĩ ra được DPS nào có setup rẻ hơn

  • @Fisticutz
    @Fisticutz 2 месяца назад

    Who would you say is better in super break teams? Sushang or Luka? (Suhsang E6, Luka E4)

    • @EiDehGaming
      @EiDehGaming  2 месяца назад

      I actually have no idea, haven't had much time to try out superbreak.

    • @elina1421
      @elina1421 2 месяца назад

      @@EiDehGaming would love to see your sushang superbreak runs!

  • @Helperishere
    @Helperishere 2 месяца назад +1

    I wonder if i end up getting Ruan Mei if ill be able to 0 cycle with my Jing Yuan.
    My Jing Yuan is 51/234 crit with base spd and 3.3k attack. Full FuA set and Inert planar set. Using his Signature. I have another set that is 70/183.
    I have Sparkle with Earthly Escapade and Fu Xuan for crit rate mostly.
    I found myself only 4 cycling the first half and it seems as though Dance Dance Dance made it harder to even 4 cycle than Planetary Rendezvous. My Jing Yuan when buffed hits 300k LL most often. I feel i may be doing something wrong since i see people with similar stat lines 0 cycling. Is that just the power of Ruan Mei or Robin?

    • @Fildserh
      @Fildserh 2 месяца назад

      What team do you use with him?

    • @Helperishere
      @Helperishere 2 месяца назад

      @@Fildserh my team is
      Tingyun e6 163 SPD 2.3k attack with random relics for spd. Using s5 Planetary Rendezvous.
      Sparkle 163 SPD. Her spd makes her go just after Tingyun. Using Earthly Escapade.
      Fu Xuan. Using She Already Shut Her Eyes. Using the Planar set to give Jing Yuans 10% crit dmg.
      Both Tingyun and Sparkle are full rainbow set for SPD stats.
      Alternatively I have a 145 spd eagle set for Tingyun.
      That's the supports I use. I feel the builds are good. I'm just doing something wrong. It would help a good bit if I had Huo Huo or Aventurine I feel for sustain instead but Fu Xuan is all I have.

    • @Fildserh
      @Fildserh 2 месяца назад +2

      The builds seems fine, but not optimal. JY for cicles 0 is a hard character. One LL must have enough damage to almost kill the enemies. One aproach to that, its going sustainless. The best suport for one shots is Yukong. She complete the 100% crit chance, and give a ton of crit damage and attack. With this moc buff, is easy have 2 ultimates ready for the LL. The other aproach its abuse the moc buff with Tinyung+DDD, and get a third turn with sparkle. With this, you could kill the first wave and pass to the second with some extra stacks of LL.

    • @Helperishere
      @Helperishere 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Fildserh I did try Dance Dance Dance but I only have s4. So maybe that causes a bit of it to be wonky. I guess I may need to learn to hold onto my Tingyun ult for bigger DDD value.
      Also I was thinking the same thing about Yukong. It's alot of buffs from one unit. I just need to lower my Sparkle SPD to 154 go get her slower than my Yukong.

    • @kamitik7283
      @kamitik7283 2 месяца назад

      @@Helperisheretry wind relic set on support then, for extra energy, but that’s alot trial n error speed tuning

  • @kickstack9559
    @kickstack9559 2 месяца назад

    what song is playing during wave 2?

  • @KaiHSR
    @KaiHSR 2 месяца назад +1

    DDD S2 can work?

    • @EiDehGaming
      @EiDehGaming  2 месяца назад +1

      I believe so? The issue might actually be on Tingyun not Sushang if you replace it but don't have the time to check. For the equations, just replace 0.24 (S5 DDD) to 0.18 (S2 DDD) and solve for it to check what speed Sushang needs.

  • @masi-babu3153
    @masi-babu3153 2 месяца назад

    Ah yes the math is mathing out

  • @serlavegomast8302
    @serlavegomast8302 2 месяца назад

    holy f that alot of text wall

  • @banana_rat96
    @banana_rat96 2 месяца назад +1

    Its funny how you need an actual galaxy brain to use arguably the most dumbest character in the game.

  • @ikrmuk
    @ikrmuk 2 месяца назад

    Is this stolen run from Dreamy??? 😂

    • @EiDehGaming
      @EiDehGaming  2 месяца назад +6

      Of course! And she stole from my original Sushang run from 2 days ago ruclips.net/video/qyh13bKQ4Mw/видео.html 🤦‍♀To be clear to anyone reading this, I'm not accusing her. I just find it appalling that someone would make such a claim without even attempting to put in the smallest amount of effort to verify their accusation

    • @ikrmuk
      @ikrmuk 2 месяца назад

      @@EiDehGaming I love steals

  • @RenIsAMoron
    @RenIsAMoron 2 месяца назад

    Sushang evoled to Li sushang