How It's Done - F12 Full 0-Cycle Walkthrough ft. E6 Sushang | MOC 2.2.2
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
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Original Robin x Sushang Run: • How Robin Greatly Impr...
A full 0-cycle run with E0 characters, and plenty of S1 too. The demands for full 0-cycles are generally much higher than single side 0-cycles. Thus, there's generally very little leeway for dropping better light cone options for weaker ones.
Also was quite sleep deprived making this. Apologies in advance for any mistake.
0:20 Introduction
0:38 Enemy Analysis
2:18 Brainstorm Lineups
3:09 Testing Lineups
4:36 Side 1 - Sushang
8:00 Side 2 - Acheron
11:00 Builds
Just wanted to say that your videos are awesome , your in-depth breakdown of the runs and your presentation in general are so nice and a breath of fresh air considering every other 0 cycle content. Keep up the great work ! :)
Bro why this channel isn't grow the videos are awesome
Thanks! I'm fine with the rate of growth at the moment, since I don't intend to make this my livelihood anyway. I just make content that I find interesting and am glad there's people that enjoy it.
the most thorough 0 cycle breakdown i've seen, subbed!
Thanks to your 0-cycle videos i was inspired to actively look for ways to save cycles instead of auto-piloting and it actually helped me this MoC as i found a way to 0 cycle the 1st wave of 1st node using Clara hypercarry, reduced from 6 to 4 cycles and barely passed the 2nd node. Keep up the great work! :D
Thanks! And great job to you too!
Good decisions on trotter in SUShang part... Good run as usual 🤙♥️ the dmg in the last Acheron ULT goes brrr
Fantastic clear and explanations as usual. Keep up the great work!
Ur literally so underrated
Babe wake up, our daily dose of 0-cycle clears is here ‼️‼️‼️
Watched from start till end. Still insane quality content nonetheless. I hope you're pulling for Firefly, because I'm really interested to see if it's possible for a zero-cycle clear featuring HMC or Asta (since I'm sure FF has Atk-BE conversion scalings..?) with her.
Or maybe, just maybe, a Himeko zero-cycle since 2nd side seems to particularly favor her.
@@MozeFan I'm definitely pulling for firefly. HMC is strong with newer break chars like Boothill or Firefly, or so I heard. I've actually not read Firefly's kit. Anyway I believe there are plenty Himeko 0-cycles on second side already, but I haven't looked at any of them and their level of investment. I'll probably do one of my own at some point.
Baby Girl Sushang slapping the Delulu Man awake with her sword. Kidding aside, awesome Sushang run.
This motivated me to retry this moc12. Sure I did not 0 cycle but i was able to get 36 stars! Thanks!
Gratz on the 36*s!
well done chef!
1.0 dps going strong 💪
The hold off ddd was quite genius. I really think after Robin release. Sushang is the strongest 4* rn.
Acheron is crazy as usual. 1 ult for each phase 😢
Yeah, that particular shield thing was really annoying. At first I was relying on him not spawning the shield mob. But having to reset a lot of times, eventually I just tried to figure a way around instead.
Well Acheron is the only character I had that would potentially beat the boss without breaking. I had more confidence in side 2 running without RM than side 1 running without RM. Such is the problem with full 0-cycles. Pela & RM support duo quite easily beat both sides I think.
Strongest 4 star is Hook no questions asked, I think you may be forgetting who rules over us all
Just discovered your channel, love the in-depth walkthrough!
If just building for 3* clears, is crit sushang like you're showcasing here still the best way to go or could a break effect sushang work as well (tho probably tied at the hip to hmc)?
I don't have anything too strong to substantiate this opinion, but I still think Sushang's crit build is stronger. BUT the BE build is extremely easy to build. The way I'd go about it is to go full crit on 4 pieces of relic with BE being a nice bonus and using Talia on planar ornaments with BE rope. This may work as HMC is a massive BE steroid already. HMC Sushang is probably more than enough to 3*, though it will be extremely helpful if Sushang had help breaking enemies too like another on-element support or Ruan Mei.
Blade getting severely outclassed by 4 star DPSes will never not be funny
Source?
@@francisdl5467 Sushang didn't take 8 cycles to clear
@CaramelMunchie Why use Blade in MoC with wind damage resist though?
@@francisdl5467element issue 🥱. Sushang could never.
Blade more like a multitool while sushang like a straight up screwdriver, while in some scenarios the screwdriver is better typically the multitool is better if u were to pick something that's multipurpose
my acheron isn't like this 😞
First Acheron E0 0 cycle I have seen ngl. Welp at least it seem like my sustain run is safe till Firefly release 😂
It's actually not that obvious whether E0 Acheron has enough damage. Her ult is quite far from true AOE. There are blast components and a random bounce component on the final hit. So scaling up to 3x elites doesn't increase her damage to 3x unlike true AOE attacks like Himeko FUA and ult. The boss mechanics themselves don't do any favors for Acheron either.
Very cool run, Passerby BlackSwan for SP, since there's no other dots to activate dot 4pc makes a lot of sense.
Do you think it's doable without Bronya S1, and going for a fast EAE setup for SP instead?
Yes. The run as is already has 1 extra SP. You just need to take out the disabling elite on wave 1 first instead of the damaging one. There are other ways to make up for lost SP, the one you mentioned being one of them. The quick EAE setup will work. But note that it's incompatible with the build Pela is using here, though I'm guessing most people don't have 167 SPD wind pela anyway.
I can never make my Acheron an atomic bomb like yours 💀
What do u use to edit ur videos?
openshot
Is this possible without Tingyun on Eagle set? Mine is on 4-PC Messenger with 173 SPD
I've not actually thought about it. Seems like it may be good enough. One obvious problem would be that the last turn Tingyun gets on 2nd wave 2nd Robin ult is only possible because of Eagle + DDD. Just DDD would require 196 SPD. But I think it may not be needed and may be good enough for the rest of the strat. No guarantees though
What's your take on superbreak sushang vs crit sushang?
Superbreak sushang is much easier to build and has a much higher damage floor. But for faster clears, crit sushang will always be stronger since superbreak takes too long to start doing damage. For sustainless runs, there are also not many good ways to buff superbreak damage since it basically only scales on 1 controllable damage stat (BE).
What do you think about firefly? I saw a firefly 0cycle that second half with a sustain. Its crazy
I haven't read her kit at all in detail besides knowing she does a lot of damage to broken units I believe. But I am rather ambivalent to the idea of 0-cycling 'with a sustain' similar to my view on 'gold cost'. It just warps the metric to who is able to utilize the offensive sustain characters the most, for which it basically only boils down to Gallagher, Huohuo and Aventurine.
In particular, especially with Gallagher, he isn't just 'a sustain'. He is one of the best SP providers and fire toughness damage dealer in the game right now and also a unique break damage buffer, and also happens to be a sustain unit. People generally aren't using Natasha or Lynx on the 4th slot when they say 'with a sustain'.
I think I've gone off on quite a tangent rant. My point is, being able to do it with a specific sustain against an extremely favorable enemy setup that is also very toxic to other lineups, is impressive, but nothing overly special I'd say. And using that as any gauge of comparative strength is a bit weird. I'd reserve judgement on the character until I actually get to play her for myself.
@@EiDehGaming No u didnt. I actually like detailed informative "rant". Thanks for explaining. Now that you point it out, yeah, gallagher did 100k+ on his enhanced and around 150k+ on his ult on top of hmc doing huge dmg as well.
Is phy orb better than atk orb for dmg? Cause I need my robin to hit your numbers!!!
physical orb is a lot better for her personal damage. But note that she is buffed by Tingyun ult and RM buffs, so her damage is abnormally high.